From arid_gardener-admin Tue Oct 26 10:42:37 1999 Received: from localhost (aaryn@localhost) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26540 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:42:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:42:34 -0700 (MST) From: Aaryn Olsson To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Arid_gardener] test Test message. Please ignore ;-) From arid_gardener-admin Tue Oct 26 16:06:27 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20506; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:06:26 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991026145917.00a29770@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:00:13 -0700 To: aokayservices@msn.com From: Lucy Bradley Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: Queen Palm Care It is also available on line >From: RodMcQ6@aol.com >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:03:32 EDT >Subject: Queen Palm Care >To: aokayservices@msn.com >CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > >U of A Extension has available an excellent bulletin on palm tree care >available for only $1.00 at 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix, 85040. >Rod Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From arid_gardener-admin Tue Oct 26 16:06:30 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20528; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:06:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991026152717.00a17310@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:31:50 -0700 To: djmm2@juno.com From: Lucy Bradley Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu In-Reply-To: <199910260432.VAA05962@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] What to Plant Now? Check out these resources available on the web: Timely Tips for October Vegetable Planting Calendar Flower Planting Guide Flower Planting Table Desert Gardening for Beginners: How to Grow Vegetables, Flowers and Herbs in an Arid Climate In October: Plant Seeds Beets, Bok Choy, Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Chinese Cabbage, Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Chard, Collard Greens, Endive, Kale, Kohlrabi, Lettuce (Head & Leaf), Leeks, Mustard, Onions (Bulb & Green), Parsnips, Peas, Radishes, Rutabagas, Spinach, Turnips Plant Transplants Broccoli, Brussel Sprouts, Cabbage, Chinese Cabbage, Cauliflower, Celery, Chard, Garlic, Kohlrabi, Lettuce (Head & Leaf) At 09:32 PM 10/25/1999 -0700, you wrote: >What kind of seeds can I sow now for a vegetable garden? I planted some >tomato plants the first week of Oct. Is that too late? Or can I expect to >get some tomatoes before frost? They are EARLY GIRL. Is it too late to >plant cucumbers or squash now? >Also, what flower seeds can I sow now? Are there any annuals that will >take a frost and still look good? I could get plants from a nursery >instead of starting seeds if it is too late. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Oct 26 16:36:23 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27732 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:36:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991026163717.00a3d2c0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:38:44 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Lucy Bradley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] New EMAIL list management system for arid_gardener Greetings! Thanks to the help of the guys at the University of Arizona ECAT lab we have been able to upgrade the system used to manage this email list for the Arid Gardeners. We converted from 'Majordomo" to "Mailman" which will give you much more control over your participation in the list. If you have any questions about the list please contact Lucy Bradley Lucy Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From arid_gardener-admin Tue Oct 26 21:03:45 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13669 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:03:45 -0700 (MST) From: PERFLOWERS@aol.com Received: from PERFLOWERS@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id oHDOa14299 (4543); Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0.88f81db8.2547d37b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:03:07 EDT To: djmm2@juno.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Flower Seeds The following flower seeds can be planted in Nov: African daisy, ageratum, asters, Baby's breath, black-eyed Susan, calendula, Clarkia, bachelor buttons, flax (both blue and red), hollyhocks, larkspur, lupine, poppies (California, Iceland and Shirley), snapdragon, stock, sweet peas, and yarrow. There are quite a few others, but these are probably the ones you recognize. When you buy the seed, check the packets and see at what temperature each seed germinates. Plant the ones that need the highest germination temperature first. Val From arid_gardener-admin Wed Oct 27 13:24:13 1999 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05899 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:24:12 -0700 (MST) From: DIXIEDAWNH@aol.com Received: from DIXIEDAWNH@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nDXW0biGOf (3863) for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0.1f4d431e.2548b94c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:23:40 EDT To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: CALL FOR EXHIBITORS - SW Region Community and School/Youth Gardening Conf... Leslie, I need to confess that I got the two conferences confused. I glanced at this e mail quickly and assumed that it was the MG conference (which is of course in Oct.) My speed reading skills certainly do need to be improved. Do you need presenters at this one and tell me more about ehibitors. The e mail you recently sent about the "great divide" was for this one. Right? Wow, talk about confusion. Hello brain. Are you still in there?To many irons in the fire here. Is there a program or schedule or any info out on this conference? Dixie From arid_gardener-admin Thu Oct 28 14:54:54 1999 Received: from mail2.gci-net.com (mail2.gci-net.com [208.8.11.1]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13617 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:54:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from server (unverified [208.32.92.245]) by mail2.gci-net.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.179) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:54:26 -0700 Message-ID: <003201bf218e$b66afa00$f55c20d0@server> From: "April Bourie" To: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:52:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2154.08DE0240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Please note new email address This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2154.08DE0240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please note that Tohono Chul Park has a new web site and email address. 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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BF2154.08DE0240-- From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 10:45:39 1999 Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25705 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:45:37 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25456; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:44:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-54-046.scf.primenet.com(206.132.54.46), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAUOayJX; Fri Oct 29 10:44:40 1999 Message-ID: <3819DCAF.30A2ECB8@primenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:43:11 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beckbabe@webtv.net CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910161314.GAA19739@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus in Zone 8 I don't believe I saw a response to your question yet, and so apologize if I duplicate someone else's answer. If you are not in Maricopa County, your best bet is to contact the Cooperative Extension in your county for specific information on citrus in your climate zone. By year 3-4 most citrus is producing in the low desert (zone 9), barring unfavorable water, fertilization, climate conditions or unresolved pest problems. You might be interested in a publication called Citrus Trees in the Home Garden (publication#8464) which discusses frost protection as well as cultivation. Send $1 to: Home Horticulture Publications University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Road Phoenix, AZ 85040 Good luck, Linda Guy Master Gardener beckbabe@webtv.net wrote: > I have an orange tree about 5 years old when do you think it will produce fruit? And how would you keep it from freezing in winter I am in zone 8. From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 10:55:10 1999 Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27689 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:55:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28323; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:54:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-54-046.scf.primenet.com(206.132.54.46), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAO.aar3; Fri Oct 29 10:54:27 1999 Message-ID: <3819DEFA.B8ACB31D@primenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:52:59 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: helspermc@mindspring.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910162223.PAA16490@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Software for Landscape Designing Manfred, The University of Arizona has software that focuses on desert plants. Check out: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/press.htm#CD For a piece of software that does everything including a purchase order for the plants involved in the design, I would recommend looking over the products available from American Nurseryman Publishing Company. A catalog is available (PN800-621-5727) or check out the website (www.amerinursery.com). Other possibilities are the American Horticultural Society (800-777-7931) and National Gardening Association (800-lets-gro). I don't have websites handy, but would be surprised if they were not online, too. Good Luck! Linda Guy Master Gardener helspermc@mindspring.com wrote: > I am looking for software packages that will allow me to design landscaping ,inclusive of the usage of desert plants and cacti. The software should draw plans and produce a list of items used with associated costs. > Pls. let me know of your recommendations and sources for aquisition. > Thanks, Manfred Helsper From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 11:27:05 1999 Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06069 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:27:05 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA43018; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:26:58 -0700 Received: from ip-54-046.scf.primenet.com(206.132.54.46), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdiFVBqa; Fri Oct 29 11:26:30 1999 Message-ID: <3819E65C.DE4378C0@primenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:24:28 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yardnymph@aol.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910172249.PAA01169@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Conadria Figs Our publication MC-23 entitled Home Grown Figs, can be ordered for $1 from: Home Horticulture Publications University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Road Phoenix, AZ 85040 Figs are fast and vigorous growers in our area. I'm not familiar with the specific growth habit of the conadria, which is supposed to be good in hot areas, but figs will reach 15-30' high and wide depending on care, pruning, etc. Hope this helps. Linda Guy Master Gardener yardnymph@aol.com wrote: > Just purchased a conadria fig tree. Can you give me info on planting, fertilizing, etc... How big can I expect the tree to grow? From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 11:32:31 1999 Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07686 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:32:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA21774; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:31:54 -0700 Received: from ip-54-046.scf.primenet.com(206.132.54.46), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdEyA_7a; Fri Oct 29 11:31:38 1999 Message-ID: <3819E797.7754BDDB@primenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:29:43 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gwoodside@uswest.net CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910250053.RAA10620@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Trees for Maricopa County While you've mentioned the desire for 'leafy trees' but there are other considerations to evaluate: size, proximity to power lines, if you would like a low water use tree, whether you want a tree that is green all year round (but nonconiferous) or if you would accept a deciduous tree, exposure, etc. I would suggest two of our publications: MC-13 Trees for Maricopa County and MC-33 Drought resistant trees for Maricopa County. These are available for $1 each by writing to: Home Horticulture Publications University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Road Phoenix, AZ 85040 One of our horticultural newsletters has a general list of potential tree problems. Higher maintenance trees are eucalyptus, palms, olives, chinese elm, mesquite(certain varieties require lots of pruning so if in a heavily trafficked area, they'll need a lot of grooming). They're so TALL! silk oak, eucalyptus, palms, aleppo pines. Chlorosis or Disease potential: silk oak, elms, eucalyptus, citrus, bottle trees, queen palms, ornamental pears. Litter problems or seasonal nuisance: eucalyptus, jacaranda, yellow oleander, carob, orchid, olive, pine, citrus, palms, mesquite, mulberry, silk oak Allergens: olive, african sumac, mulberry Damage causing roots: cottonwood, mulberry, chamel ash, silk oak, chniese elm, aleppo pine. Hope this helps! Linda Guy Master Gardener gwoodside@uswest.net wrote: > I have three huge pine trees in my back yard > that I would like to replace with leafy type > shade trees. What is the best type that can > withstand our summers and are fairly low > maintenance? From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 11:42:34 1999 Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10094 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:42:29 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA57108; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:41:58 -0700 Received: from ip-54-046.scf.primenet.com(206.132.54.46), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdZHb9aa; Fri Oct 29 11:41:25 1999 Message-ID: <3819E9DC.32B5FCE6@primenet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:39:24 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pmjk@excite.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910182126.OAA09561@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Umbrella Plant Control The only way I know to control this plant is to periodically dig out the plant. Over time, the centers will become well overgrown. You will want to dig this out and replant with the smaller divisions taken from the perimeter of the plant. I would be afraid that an herbicide would impact the whole plant. One trick, which I use on perennial herbs that tend to run rampant across my beds, is to sink a plastic pot (5 or 15 gallon, depending on the size you want) in the area where you want the plant. Make sure the bottom has been cut out for drainage. This might make the annual division process easier for you, too. I'm not uncomfortable making this recommendation, because I have related varieties growing successfully in my pond in containers. Each spring, I remove almost 2/3 from the container and retain only the best looking third of the plant for the following season. Good luck! Linda Guy Master Gardener pmjk@excite.com wrote: > How can one control umbrella grass? Ours spreads latterally by rhizomes whereever it wants. Is there a recommended herbicide? From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 13:49:02 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09028; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:49:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991029134955.009d54e0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:55:20 -0700 To: az_mg_pro@Ag.Arizona.Edu, school_garden@mallorn.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Lucy Bradley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] Butterflies of Arizona Check out this website with photographs and descriptions of Butterflies found in Arizona. It includes hundreds of butterflies and contains information in the following categories: Wing span: Keys to Identification: Life history: Flight Season: Caterpillar host plants: Adult food: Habitat: Range: Conservation: Management needs: Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From arid_gardener-admin Fri Oct 29 22:43:07 1999 Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05234 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:43:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from netzone ([12.72.33.67]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991030054130.CHJR2915@netzone>; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:41:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf2297$9e2cb780$4321480c@netzone.com> Reply-To: "Olin Miller" From: "Olin Miller" To: "Arid Gardener List" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:28:01 -0700 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Flower and Garden Show Date: Saturday and Sunday, November 13 and 14, 1999 Location: Washing Adult Center Auditorium 2240 W CITRUS WAY PHOENIX AZ The Washington Adult Center is the half-mile street between Bethany Home Rd. and Glendale Ave, at 23rd Ave. and Citrus Way about 1/2 mile east of I-17. You are invited to the Fall Flower and Garden Show which is free and open to the public. The show is offered as a service to the public and it brings together examples of the many flowers, vegetables, and fruits that can be grown successfully in our low desert climate. Important objectives of the show are to increase interest in gardening, to encourage the growing of plants by more individuals, to broaden horticultural knowledge and skills, and to protect and improve the quality of plants grown. You can help realize these objectives by exhibiting your gardening accomplishments in the show. An optional novice section is available if you have not previously exhibited or won a blue ribbon. Entries will be accepted from 7:00AM to 10:00 AM on Saturday, November 13. To obtain a schedule of show classifications and entry tags, send your request with your mailing address to millero@worldnet.att.net . Additional entry tags will also be available at the staging area at the adult center. See also the show announcement at http://home.att.net/~millero/show99.html. The show will be open for viewing 1:00-5:00 PM on Saturday and 1:00-4:00 PM on Sunday, November 13-14. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 10:11:26 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00748 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:11:24 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991102100846.00aa5a00@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:09:29 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: cbi64@webtv.net (Barbara Isaac) (by way of Lucy Bradley ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] help i hope you can help. i have a bottle tree that has started to lose its leaves. the tree is 5 years old and is over 20" circumference at the base and is over 25' tall. the leaves on the branches are turning yellow then brown and falling off. this is happening on the branches yet the leaves on the ends of the branches are still green. i water the tree for 15 minutes 2x per week with three bubblers at the base. the tree is in rocks with no other vegetation. the tree was fertilized in April with a 16-16-16 mixture. what is causing this problem. am i over watering? do i need to fertilize again. your input will be greatly appreciated. thanx From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 11:07:20 1999 Received: from trifid.u.arizona.edu (root@trifid.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.197]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14881 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:07:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from carolyn.mac-coopext.arizona.edu (carolyn.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.5]) by trifid.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA48330 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:07:19 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19991102111145.0092fe10@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: cchard@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:15:41 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Carolyn Chard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [Arid_gardener] Howdy from the Desert Rat! Rose & tulip, lemon & lime, I can't think how to finish this rhyme! Carolyn H. Chard cchard@ag.arizona.edu "You make a living by what you get; you make a life by what you give." From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 12:22:05 1999 Received: from post1.inre.asu.edu (post1.inre.asu.edu [129.219.13.100]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03431 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.13.92]) by asu.edu (PMDF V5.2-31 #31135) with ESMTP id <0FKL00GBZ4GQ42@asu.edu> for arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from asuwest-online.west.asu.edu (asuwest-online.west.asu.edu [149.169.184.38]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09094; Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:23:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:22:02 -0700 From: mike.todd@asu.edu (Michael Todd) To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Cc: cbi64@webtv.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bottle tree losing leaves Barbara, We have a friend in Mesa who also lost a mature bottle tree this summer. In her case, I suspect Texas Root Rot (a soil fungus). This fungus tends to kill trees off pretty quickly, and bottle trees are known to be susceptible to it. Others on the e-mail list might have other ideas about what went wrong (e.g., grubs, poor drainage), but my guess is Texas Root Rot. If you confirm that this is the problem, you should consider planting a resistant species, as the fungus will stay in the soil for years. Here is a brief list of trees that are resistant (but not immune) to Texas Root Rot*: Aleppo Pine (Pinus halepensis) Arizona Cypress (Cupressus arizonica) Mesquite (Prosopis spp.) Palo Verde (Cercidum spp.) Arizona Sycamore (Platanus wrightii) Sweet Acacia (Acacia farnesiana, a.k.a. Acacia smallii) Lysiloma, a.k.a Fern of the Desert (Lysiloma microphylla var. thornberi) Desert Willow (Chilopsis linearis) Hope this helps. *From Brookbank, G. (1992). Desert Landscaping: How to Start and Maintain a Healthy Landscape in the Southwest. Tucson: U of Arizona Press, pp 103-104. >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:09:29 -0700 >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >From: cbi64@webtv.net (Barbara Isaac) (by way of Lucy Bradley >) >Subject: [Arid_gardener] help > >i hope you can help. i have a bottle tree that has started to lose its >leaves. the tree is 5 years old and is over 20" circumference at the >base and is over 25' tall. the leaves on the branches are turning yellow >then brown and falling off. this is happening on the branches yet the >leaves on the ends of the branches are still green. i water the tree for >15 minutes 2x per week with three bubblers at the base. the tree is in >rocks with no other vegetation. the tree was fertilized in April with a >16-16-16 mixture. what is causing this problem. am i over watering? do >i need to fertilize again. your input will be greatly appreciated. >thanx Mike Todd Graduate Research Associate Dept of Psychology | Dept of Social and Behavioral Sciences-MC 3051 Arizona State University | Arizona State University West PO Box 871104 | PO Box 37100 Tempe AZ 85287-1104 | Phoenix AZ 85069-7100 E-mail: mike.todd@asu.edu ASU Psychology-Voice:480.965.3326 (mssg only); Fax: 480.965.8544 ASUW Social & Behavioral Sci-Voice: 602.543.6324; Fax: 602.543.6004 From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 12:30:16 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05752 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:30:14 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991102121923.00ac97c0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:20:05 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: R2BESHON@aol.com (by way of Lucy Bradley ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] ROLLY POLY BUGS Please reply to these roly poly bugs are eating the roots on all my flowers. is there something i can put in the soil to eradicate them. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 12:30:19 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05760 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:30:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991102122029.00acbdb0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:20:54 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: R2BESHON@aol.com (by way of Lucy Bradley ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] TOMATOE PLANTS Please reply to each year this time i pull out my tomato plants from summer. they are still green, still have blooms, and still have green tomatoes. why do the tomatoes at this stage never get bigger or ripen? also for fall tomatoes - when should i plant and which variety is the best for slicing? thank you. r2beshon@AL.com From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 13:30:14 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.31]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20718 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:30:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from default - 63.14.218.145 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:29:45 -0800 Message-ID: <006501bf256f$ae87dbc0$30c40e3f@default> From: "Mike Hills" To: "Michael Todd" , Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bottle tree losing leaves Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:19:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Mike Todd I think you could have a couple of things going on with this bottle tree (I'm assuming that this is the Australian Bottle Tree - Brachychiton populneus) that is so commonly planted in the metro-Phoenix area. Texas Root Rot is quite common with these trees, but generally the leaves seem to die almost overnite and stick on the tree, rather than changing color and falling off - and the younger leaves at the branch tips should be dead also for Texas Root Rot. These trees are generally partially deciduous, meaning that periodically they will shed many of their older leaves and then flush out with fresh leaves. Sometimes this is a seasonal response and sometimes a response to stress - heat, lack of water, disease, salt, etc. The individual tree response varies greatly from clone to clone. If the tree looks healthy otherwise, has retained some of its older leaves and the branch ends all have new leaves emerging, then it is probably this response, rather than root rot. If you choose to keep this tree and help ot recover, rather than replacing at this time with a more root rot tolerant species, then I would also like to suggest that you need to change your watering pattern to help the tree recover and continue to grow healthy. Many people place the bubblers/drippers at the base of the young tree when forst planted and then do not move and adjust them outwards as the tree matures. For a 5 year old tree, your water source should be out at the drip line of the tree, not near the base. Moving the drippers/bubblers out to the area on the ground that is directly under the outer edge of the leaf canopy will make for a far healthier tree as that is where the tree's feeder and water absorbing roots are located. Watering too near the trunk can promote disease and also make for a shallow root system that is more prone to stress. Also, you need to adjust your watering schedule to take into account the fact that the tree is more mature now. You are currently wateriing your tree too often, and for way too short a period each time - too frequent and short of waterings will lead to a shallow, stress prone root system, along with accumulating salts in the root zone. You should be watering the tree for much longer at a time, but watering far fewer times since it is now 5 years old and considered a mature tree. By watering for a longer period, the water will soak in far deeper and help to flush accumulated salts out of the root zone. With this deeper watering schedule, you can probably cut back your watering to once every 2 or 3 weeks. Specific information on suggested tree watering schedules will depend on how much water your bubbler/drip system puts out over a set period of time. Details on this are available from your city's water conservation office, as well as on the University of Arizona website. Hope that this is helpful Mike Hills Maricopa County Master Gardener Volunteer *********************************** From: Michael Todd To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Cc: cbi64@webtv.net Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:23 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bottle tree losing leaves >arid_gardener >Barbara, > >We have a friend in Mesa who also lost a mature bottle tree this summer. >In her case, I suspect Texas Root Rot (a soil fungus). This fungus tends >to kill trees off pretty quickly, and bottle trees are known to be >susceptible to it. Others on the e-mail list might have other ideas about >what went wrong (e.g., grubs, poor drainage), but my guess is Texas Root >Rot. If you confirm that this is the problem, you should consider >planting a resistant species, as the fungus will stay in the soil for >years. Here is a brief list of trees that are resistant (but not immune) >to Texas Root Rot*: > >Aleppo Pine (Pinus halepensis) >Arizona Cypress (Cupressus arizonica) >Mesquite (Prosopis spp.) >Palo Verde (Cercidum spp.) >Arizona Sycamore (Platanus wrightii) >Sweet Acacia (Acacia farnesiana, a.k.a. Acacia smallii) >Lysiloma, a.k.a Fern of the Desert (Lysiloma microphylla var. thornberi) >Desert Willow (Chilopsis linearis) > >Hope this helps. > >*From Brookbank, G. (1992). Desert Landscaping: How to Start and Maintain >a Healthy Landscape in the Southwest. Tucson: U of Arizona Press, pp >103-104. ******************************************> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:09:29 -0700 >>To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>From: cbi64@webtv.net (Barbara Isaac) (by way of Lucy Bradley >>) >>Subject: [Arid_gardener] help >> >>i hope you can help. i have a bottle tree that has started to lose its >>leaves. the tree is 5 years old and is over 20" circumference at the >>base and is over 25' tall. the leaves on the branches are turning yellow >>then brown and falling off. this is happening on the branches yet the >>leaves on the ends of the branches are still green. i water the tree for >>15 minutes 2x per week with three bubblers at the base. the tree is in >>rocks with no other vegetation. the tree was fertilized in April with a >>16-16-16 mixture. what is causing this problem. am i over watering? do >>i need to fertilize again. your input will be greatly appreciated. >>thanx > >Mike Todd >Graduate Research Associate > >Dept of Psychology | Dept of Social and Behavioral Sciences-MC 3051 >Arizona State University | Arizona State University West >PO Box 871104 | PO Box 37100 >Tempe AZ 85287-1104 | Phoenix AZ 85069-7100 > >E-mail: mike.todd@asu.edu >ASU Psychology-Voice:480.965.3326 (mssg only); Fax: 480.965.8544 >ASUW Social & Behavioral Sci-Voice: 602.543.6324; Fax: 602.543.6004 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 13:55:47 1999 Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25927 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:55:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA239128; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:55:26 -0700 Received: from 206-132-48-136.nas-1.SCF.primenet.com(206.132.48.136), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpdOLIdya; Tue Nov 2 13:55:18 1999 Message-ID: <381F4F37.7AE7C97E@primenet.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 13:53:12 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "by way of Lucy Bradley " CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <4.2.0.58.19991102121923.00ac97c0@ag.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] ROLLY POLY BUGS (Sow- or Pillbugs) Sowbugs/pillbugs are found in very damp, shaded areas feeding on dying or decaying vegetation. Refer to the entomology section of the Master Gardener Manual at: http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/entomology/relatives.html I have not known this critter to eat roots, however. Since they are attracted to moisture, could you be overwatering, resulting in roots rotting while attracting these rolypolys? I have known them to feed on small transplants, but this was vegetative, not root. Perhaps you've another issue? Linda Guy Master Gardener "by way of Lucy Bradley " wrote: > arid_gardener > Please reply to > > these roly poly bugs are eating the roots on all my flowers. is there > something i > can put in the soil to eradicate them. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 14:10:28 1999 Received: from smtp05.primenet.com (smtp05.primenet.com [206.165.6.135]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00126 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp05.primenet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA30454; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:10:13 -0700 Received: from 206-132-48-136.nas-1.SCF.primenet.com(206.132.48.136), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp05.primenet.com, id smtpd964Cqa; Tue Nov 2 14:10:09 1999 Message-ID: <381F52B3.AD80C44@primenet.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 14:08:03 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jbh@azstarnet.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910251751.KAA21997@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Care for Ponytail Palm [Beaucarnea recurvata] You've wisely chosen a southern/western indoors' exposure for a plant that likes plenty of good lighting. I've not had personal experience with this as an outdoor plant, but the Sunset Western Garden Book (page 180) suggests that it is viable outside in our zone. I'd watch carefully for the amount of summer sun, however. In my personal experience, the single most important factor is your watering practice. This plant will like to be deeply watered, but infrequently; drying out between waterings will be important. I drowned my last ponytail! Make sure run-off drains into a saucer and that it is not reabsorbed back into the root ball, carrying back any salts that the first watering leached from the container's soil. Tips on the end of foliage can mean lack of water, but overwatering or poor drainage are also likely candidates. Use a soil probe to check for the moisture of the root ball. The plant could also have been overfertilized (meaning heavy salt content); of course lack of fertilization could also be a factor. I normally stop fertilizing houseplants until spring growth recommences. My personal practice and the recommendation of our Indoor Plant Selection and Care publication #8828 is to trim brown leaf tips and margins following the shape of the leaf. I am not aware of specific advice to the contrary for Ponytails. Hope this helps. Linda Guy Master Gardener jbh@azstarnet.com wrote: > How often should I water a ponytail palm? It is in a room that gets southern and western light. > It is about 4-5 ft tall and has several branches coming out of the main trunk. i got it at an estate sale and it has a lot of browning on the tips. > What can be done for that? I read you are not supposed to cut off the brown parts. > Thanks for your advice From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 14:34:44 1999 Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06217 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:34:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21140; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:34:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from 206-132-48-136.nas-1.SCF.primenet.com(206.132.48.136), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd021055; Tue Nov 2 14:34:18 1999 Message-ID: <381F585C.611C10FA@primenet.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 14:32:12 -0700 From: "Linda A. Guy" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NollieR@redrivernet.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu References: <199910212151.OAA01985@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Growing Citrus and Bougainvillea in Quartsite Mr. and Mrs. Goff, First, permit me to suggest that your county's Cooperative Extension office may be a better source of information for your particular area of Arizona. The only online publication we have is AZ 1001 Low Desert Citrus Varieties available at: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Citrus When you get to this index of the Home Horticulture website you will also notice some other publications that can be ordered by mail at $1 each from: Home Horticulture Publications University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Road, Phoenix, AZ 85040 602/470-8086 (ext 301) There used to be an old U of A citrus publication 8464 called Citrus Trees in the Home Garden that covered most growing topics including fertilizing, watering, pruning, frost protections etc. You can ask about it at the phone number above. But your own Extension Office might just as well have it. As to bougainvilleas, most thrive on a bit of neglect. Indeed, the colorful bracts which are not a true flower, are most profuse when the plant is feeling a bit stressed for water. Overwatering will generate lush green vegetation. I have never had the need to fertilize mine in the past. Wait until danger of frost passes in the spring time to trim damage from cold temps. I hope this is helpful to you. Good luck. Linda Guy Master Gardener NollieR@redrivernet.com wrote: > We are looking for information on growing citrus trees & bougainvillea in Quartzsite AZ. Can you give us some tips and/or reading material. On line if possible. Thank you. Doris & Ray Goff. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 16:09:43 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02705 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:09:40 -0700 (MST) From: JeanSciFi@aol.com Received: from JeanSciFi@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id dREFa14300 (4424); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:09:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.37ba326d.2550c911@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:09:05 EST To: helspermc@mindspring.com CC: Arid_Gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Landscape software Hi Manfred, There is a review of several landscaping programs in the National Home Gardening Club Magazine for Nov/Dec. I'll list them below starting with the one that appears to give you the most flexibility. Complete Land Designer v. 5.0 (Sierra) price $50.00 Burpee 3D Garden Designer (Heat Zone Edition) Price $30 Expert Landscape Design 3D v. 5 price $12.00 Imagine Your Landscape (Adex) price $50.00 Planix Landscape (Autodesk) Price $20 If you do not have access to this magazine and are interested in more information about one of these I can type in the information given. If you are in the local Phoenix area and have access to a fax machine I could also fax the entire page to you. There is also a CD called Desert Landscaping but out by the Water Resources Research Center. You can probably locate it most easily at the Maricopa County Extension Office at 4341 E. Broadway, Tempe, AZ JeanSciFi@aol.com Master Gardener Volunteer Apache Junction, AZ In a message dated 10/16/99 3:26:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, helspermc@mindspring.com writes: << Subj: Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: 10/16/99 3:26:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time From: helspermc@mindspring.com To: arid_gardener-outgoing@Ag.Arizona.Edu I am looking for software packages that will allow me to design landscaping ,inclusive of the usage of desert plants and cacti. The software should draw plans and produce a list of items used with associated costs. Pls. let me know of your recommendations and sources for aquisition. Thanks, Manfred Helsper >> From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 2 16:52:12 1999 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12369 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:52:12 -0700 (MST) From: JeanSciFi@aol.com Received: from JeanSciFi@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id eVCPa14300 (4541); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:50:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.c83c45e3.2550d2c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:50:31 EST To: BNKJOHNSON@prodigy.net CC: Arid_Gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Hibiscus Hi, Probably the best reference I can give you is the address for a Hibiscus Society. It is located in Florida but they are willing to answer questions from AZ. Very friendly people. They also publish a Hibiscus Handbook. I've sent for the book but it hasn't arrived as yet. The address is http:\\ww.trop-hibiscus.com In a message dated 10/11/99 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, BNKJOHNSON@prodigy.net writes: << Subj: Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: 10/11/99 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time From: BNKJOHNSON@prodigy.net To: arid_gardener-outgoing@Ag.Arizona.Edu I need information or tips on how to get a big, beautiful tropical hibiscus to produce more blooms along with its great foliage- I feed it Miracid and diluted vinegar (roots only!) once a month. Thank you! >> From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 3 16:02:10 1999 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17213 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:08 -0700 (MST) From: GailThiele@aol.com Received: from GailThiele@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nUPXeS9KZ_ (659) for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:01:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.6113255.255218c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:01:21 EST To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 218 Subject: [Arid_gardener] care and feeding of certain plants The Master Gardener, Norma Kafer, referred me to you. I needs lots of help in knowing how to successfully grow indoors the following plants: a Dracaena J.C. Compacta;two types of ficus 1)Benjamina 2) a huge fiddle shaped leaf ficus; a Kentsia ( or is it Kentia) palm; and a Bromeliad of some sort that has different colored fronds and is similar to a ginger plant. I really need some very specific information about these plants' light needs, water needs, misting requirements, and fertilizing needs. I have a black thumb so if you could be as specific as possible I'd appreciate it. Also, I need to know how to trouble shoot, i.e., what to do when the leaves are brown on the tips (or what not to do), what to do when the leaves turn yellow and fall off. These plants are fairly new to my home and are doing both of these things. Is there a book that would give me really good information? I have the Sunset Garden Book, but it is not complete enough for me. One final question: is a moisture tester with a long probe really an accurate indicator of the moisture present? I get different readings the further down it is placed. Thanks. Gail A. Thiele gailthiele@aol.com From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 3 19:00:49 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20445; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:00:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991103182514.009dd220@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 18:30:53 -0700 To: GailThiele@aol.com From: Lucy Bradley Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu In-Reply-To: <0.6113255.255218c1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] Houseplants Check out the University of Arizona Publication on House plants It is in PDF format so you will need acrobat reader to open. For instructions on how to download a free copy see Yes moisture meters can give accurate indication of moisture present and it would not be unusual to have the top of the pot dry out prior to the bottom of the pot and so get different readings at different levels in your pot. Moisture will evaporate off the top and gravity will pull it to the bottom. Good luck with your house plants! At 06:01 PM 11/03/1999 -0500, you wrote: >arid_gardener >The Master Gardener, Norma Kafer, referred me to you. I needs lots of help >in knowing how to successfully grow indoors the following plants: a Dracaena >J.C. Compacta;two types of ficus 1)Benjamina 2) a huge fiddle shaped leaf >ficus; a Kentsia ( or is it Kentia) palm; and a Bromeliad of some sort that >has different colored fronds and is similar to a ginger plant. I really need >some very specific information about these plants' light needs, water needs, >misting requirements, and fertilizing needs. I have a black thumb so if you >could be as specific as possible I'd appreciate it. Also, I need to know how >to trouble shoot, i.e., what to do when the leaves are brown on the tips (or >what not to do), what to do when the leaves turn yellow and fall off. These >plants are fairly new to my home and are doing both of these things. Is there >a book that would give me really good information? I have the Sunset Garden >Book, but it is not complete enough for me. One final question: is a >moisture tester with a long probe really an accurate indicator of the >moisture present? I get different readings the further down it is placed. >Thanks. >Gail A. Thiele >gailthiele@aol.com > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 3 20:04:56 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00850; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:04:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991103195709.009a98a0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 20:03:27 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Lucy Bradley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ta Dah!!!! Searchable Archives Look what Paul Sarando, computer guru for the University of Arizona, has done for us!!! He has created a search engine on the archives page that will search not only our new archives that we created when we moved to the mailman system, but also the old system which was on Majordomo. This means that you can go to the archives, type in what you are interested in and it searches both archives (not just the subject line, the whole message) so it will find all the previous messages on a particular topic!!! Check it out!!! How Cool is That!! Many, Many, Thanks to Paul for making the archives a functional tool for us!!! Lucy Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 09:42:06 1999 Received: from cathy (lucy.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.4]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01042 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:42:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991104091411.009d8a60@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:14:35 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Michelle Pinckard (by way of Lucy Bradley ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [Arid_gardener] Help with my garden To Whom It May Concern: I am going to plant my winter garden this week & would like some advice on layout & brands of seed to use. I would like to plant the following: Green beans Broccoli Carrots Cerely Cauliflower Endive Leaf Lettuce Green Onions Peas Radishes I have a 12x12 foot garden area. What do you recommend as far as layout? Do you recommend certain brands of seed or should I use sets for any of these? Please respond at your earliest convenience. From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 10:59:48 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19448 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:59:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:59:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911041759.KAA19448@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: From: aaryn@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page What temperatures are avocado trees hardy to? From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 12:33:44 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA12192 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:33:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:33:41 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911041933.MAA12192@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: From: BradleyL@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Have a Great Thursday! Test Message From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 17:59:54 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01545 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:59:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:59:53 -0700 (MST) From: Azgopher@juno.com Message-Id: <199911050059.RAA01545@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page This morning I planted a cactus succulent ---Euphorbia Amak Variegata . At what rate do I water it until it is established ? From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 22:43:10 1999 Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10933 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:43:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from netzone ([12.72.39.234]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991105054218.KRSZ18017@netzone>; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01bf274e$a8577720$ea27480c@netzone.com> Reply-To: "Olin Miller" From: "Olin Miller" To: "Arid Gardener List" , References: <4.2.0.58.19991104091411.009d8a60@ag.arizona.edu> Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Help with my garden Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:27:39 -0700 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Michelle Pinckard on Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:14 AM wrote: > ... > I am going to plant my winter garden this week & would like some advice > on layout & brands of seed to use. I would like to plant the following: > > Green beans Broccoli Carrots > Cerely Cauliflower Endive > Leaf Lettuce Green Onions Peas > Radishes > > I have a 12x12 foot garden area. What do you recommend as far as > layout? > Do you recommend certain brands of seed or should I use sets for any of > these? I would us a modified "Square Foot Garden" layout. You could block out 9 3-foot square beds with 18 inches walkways between them. Or 4 5-foot squares or some other convenient combination. See http://members.primary.net/~silvest/garden/spacing.html for recommended sqft plant spacings and other ideas for your garden layout. Note that many sqft gardens are in raised beds for various reasons but it isn't really necessary to make raised beds. Unless you plan to use plastic tunnels forget about planting green beans until mid March. They need warm soil and it is already too cool to grow beans out in the open. And there isn't time to make a crop before frost. See http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1005.pdf for the vegetable planting schedule for Maricopa county. Most broccoli types produce fairly well. You will usually get only 1 large head but the side shoots are just as tasty and will produce over a long period if you harvest them before the yellow blossoms appear. Look for a type with a short time to maturity. Green Comet and Packman are my personal favorites because of prolific side shoot production but there are many others. I would suggest buying transplants for both broccoli and cauliflower - faster than seed at this late date. When buying transplants, your choices are pretty limited. Self blanching cauliflower is pretty popular but the regular old-fashioned types seem to be hardier. You might want to begin with a short carrot like Short-n-Sweet or Thumbelina if you have tight clay soil. I usually grow a Nantes type because it is more cylindrical with very little taper. Can't recommend any celery types - it hasn't been successful for me. Black Seeded Simpson is a bland flavored, light green lettuce which grows well here and is a pretty good substitute for iceberg lettuce. It is pretty widely available. You can often get 3-4 shearings from it before it starts to become bitter. Many of the other old standbys like oak-leaf and salad bowl are more flavorful. I'd suggest trying a leaf lettuce mix or a Mesclun mix to see what works best for you. For radishes, I would also suggest starting with a mix - something like cherry belle, French breakfast, icicle, champion, etc to see which works best for you. Any of the curly endives should do okay - it's pretty hardy. Green onions can be grown pretty rapidly using the generic sets available now in most garden center. For peas, we usually grow Wando it can get pretty rangy. Little Marvel,a short bush type, is also a good choice. You might also want to try "sugar snap peas". You don't need to shell them - one eats the entire pod. Good Luck! Olin Miller http://home.att.net/~millero/vegetables.html From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 23:02:58 1999 Received: from mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.40]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13211 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from netzone ([12.72.39.234]) by mtiwmhc05.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991105060227.KYCT18017@netzone>; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:02:27 +0000 Message-ID: <003001bf2751$78b62360$ea27480c@netzone.com> Reply-To: "Olin Miller" From: "Olin Miller" To: "Arid Gardener List" , References: <4.2.0.58.19991104185049.009ffe20@ag.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:48:45 -0700 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Jerusalem artichoke planting dates/AZ On Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:51 PM, Toni L. Allen wrote: > .... We're getting conflicting info about when to plant them here in central AZ. When?? Can we plant now. If we don't plant now, how do we store them until planting. > ... Plant Jerusalem artichoke tubers in May. They need warm weather. You might try storing in a refrigerator. -Olin Miller From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 4 23:59:23 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA17758 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:59:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:59:23 -0700 (MST) From: cmuller2000@earthlink.com Message-Id: <199911050659.XAA17758@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I irrigate my lawn every 2 weeks (6-8 in). Should I continue this throughout the winter? From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 5 14:45:20 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02717 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:45:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:45:20 -0700 (MST) From: PLANTLADYAZ@webtv.com Message-Id: <199911052145.OAA02717@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page How deep do I dig a hole for a bougainvillea? Do I ammend soil if it is all caleche? From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 5 17:57:53 1999 Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06976 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:57:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from netzone ([12.72.33.233]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991106005722.RTW6862@netzone>; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:57:22 +0000 Message-ID: <003801bf27f0$0aff48c0$e921480c@netzone.com> Reply-To: "Olin Miller" From: "Olin Miller" To: "Arid Gardener List" , References: <4.2.0.58.19991102121923.00ac97c0@ag.arizona.edu> Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] ROLLY POLY BUGS Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:33:59 -0700 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 On Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:20 PM R2BESHON@aol.com wrote: >... these roly poly bugs are eating the roots on all my flowers. is there something i can put in the soil to eradicate them. > ... I have heard diatomaceous earth works but have never tried it yself. -Olin From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 5 17:59:24 1999 Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07229 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:59:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from netzone ([12.72.33.233]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19991106005850.SKK6862@netzone>; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:58:50 +0000 Message-ID: <003901bf27f0$3f824700$e921480c@netzone.com> Reply-To: "Olin Miller" From: "Olin Miller" To: "Arid Gardener List" , References: <4.2.0.58.19991102122029.00acbdb0@ag.arizona.edu> Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] TOMATOE PLANTS Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:45:29 -0700 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 On Tuesday, November 02, 1999 12:20 PM R2BESHON@aol.com wrote: >... > each year this time i pull out my tomato plants from summer. they are still green, still have blooms, and still have green tomatoes. why do the tomatoes at this stage never get bigger or ripen? also for fall tomatoes - when should i plant and which variety is the best for slicing? > ... Reccomended planting date for fall tomatoes is from July15 to August 15 according to the schedule at http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1005.pdf. Can't help with the other questions. Sorry. -Olin Miller From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 5 20:06:47 1999 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19618 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:06:46 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id 5DQD0OUVum (4318); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:06:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.91a9e9a.2554f51f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:06:07 EST To: cmuller2000@earthlink.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Turf: Winter watering All plants require much less water in the winter ; a rule of thumb is 1/2 the summer requirements. The newspapers on the weather page list the amount of water required to keep turf healthy, which varies throughout the year. Check outt the Master Gardener Manual chapter on turf care at the following website: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/lawns/index.html Good luck. Rod From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 08:55:14 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16662 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:55:14 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:55:14 -0700 (MST) From: ecard10331@aol.com Message-Id: <199911061555.IAA16662@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page We recently had two Chilean Mesquite Trees planted in our yard. During planting the Drip system was damaged and both trees were excessively watered for some time before we realized what had happened and repaired the damage. Now both trees are shedding their leaves. Are these trees dying? Can we salvage them? They have been in one month and the problem was solved after about two weeks. How often should we water these trees and for how long? they are beautiful trees and we would hate to lose them. Thanks in advance for your advice. Ed Cardinal From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 11:46:34 1999 Received: from smtppop2.gte.net (smtppop2.gte.net [207.115.153.21]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02648 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:46:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [63.14.193.79] (1Cust79.tnt2.phoenix.az.da.uu.net [63.14.193.79]) by smtppop2.gte.net with ESMTP for ; id MAA945607 Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:44:03 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199911061844.MAA945607@smtppop2.gte.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:42:06 -0700 From: "kevin@linda ahern" To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] I cannot get connected to your question line. What are the huge white slimy caterpillars that are now in my unsuccessful vegetable garden soil? Did they come from my compost pile? From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 12:07:00 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05112 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:07:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:07:00 -0700 (MST) From: kallaz@gte.net Message-Id: <199911061907.MAA05112@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have raised beds in my garden. We have tried for 4 seasons to get a successful vegetable garden growing. This year I added a year's worth of home compost to my bed and added other amendments rec in the Master Gardening workshops. Nothing sprouted in my first planting! I replanted and unfortunately and accidentally left the watering system on. When I returned home all the beds were flooded and floating and lying in muck were MANY large, white, slimy caterpillars...some as big as 3 inches. What are these??? Did they come from my compost pile???? Did they eat my rooting seeds? What do I do? Many thx From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 14:15:48 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17315 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:15:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:15:48 -0700 (MST) From: uitti@primenet.com Message-Id: <199911062115.OAA17315@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I built a hanging planter out of 4 in. black PVC about 4 feet in length. I drilled 1 1/4 in holes (staggared) thru-out it's length. The bottom was capped with a standard 4 in end cap (1/8 inch holes drilled for drainage). In the center of the 4 in. PVC I installed a 1 in. PVC with 1/8 in. holes scattered thru-out for watering. Now the problem: What should I plant in this planter that will withstand our weather? I would like a lot of color and something that covers the PVC in time. What is the best time to plant, and how long can I expect it to bloom? I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. Thanks again. Paul Uitti From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 14:34:33 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19184 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:34:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:34:33 -0700 (MST) From: scottwlee@hotmail.com Message-Id: <199911062134.OAA19184@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I am from thatcher, az in the south east corner in the gila vally. I am interested in planting a lawn. I would like to know about the grasses I could use. I would prefer to use one that is softer than Bermuda grass. I admitt that I know very little about grasses, so please keep your information not too technical. Thanks a lot! From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 6 21:06:50 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25861 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:06:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:06:49 -0700 (MST) From: deniseorjohn@home.com Message-Id: <199911070406.VAA25861@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I read an article on desert flowers and wanted to know if the Hymenoxys acaulis (Angelica Daisy) is the beautiful wild daisy bushes that pop up in my yard ever summer. Do you know what daisies I'm referring too? I'd love to plant more and also would love to know how to keep them from dying out each year. Thanks From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 14:30:01 1999 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15233 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:30:00 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id iQTLa22422 (3877); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:29:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.59a4fec4.25574937@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:29:27 EST To: scottwlee@hotmail.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Turf recommendation for Thatcher, Az. Scott, I would recommend that you check with your county extension office. If I knew your elevation and climate zone I would be in a better position to help. Your county agent should be able to help you. Good luck. Rod From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 16:14:44 1999 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26876 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:14:44 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nWQDa19121 (4317); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:14:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d4612c96.255761be@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:14:06 EST To: ECard10331@aol.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Over watered Mesquite trees Ed It is typical of trees that are under stress to drop their leaves and being overwatered for two weeks might be enough to cause stress. Hopefully yours will not be lost. My guess is that your trees should be ok. I doubt that your trees have established much root growth yet and especially with the over watering. When the tree was planted did anyone check to make sure that you had good drainage from the planting hole? The planting hole filled with water should drain overnight. If it doesn't it is not a fit place to plant a tree. A small hole dug down to the depth of the root ball at the edge of the root ball should tell you the current moisture situation. An experienced person can determine the same thing by inserting a steel probe; the probe will go easily to the depth that the water has penetrated. This is also a great way to determine if the irrigation water has penetrated to the proper depth. If the tree has not been watered in two weeks it should need water now unless your soil is not draining well. Deep watering every two to three weeks during the winter should be adequate. The root ball on a newly planted tree dries out much faster than the surrounding soil and should be monitored until the roots have penetrated into the surrounding soil. I would be glad to hear from you as to how your trees do. Good luck. Rod Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on irrigation at the following website: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 16:40:19 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29375 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:40:18 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:40:18 -0700 (MST) From: seklug@earthlink.net Message-Id: <199911072340.QAA29375@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I am looking for a good, honest, reputable and knowledgeable tree trimmer. Would it be best to find someone who is a certified arborist. Other than taking my chances with the yellow pages, do you have a list or can you make a recommendation? From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 19:21:01 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16391 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:21:01 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:21:01 -0700 (MST) From: Codiedale@aol.com Message-Id: <199911080221.TAA16391@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have been researching the Castor Bean for some time now and have been attempting to put together a information sheet (fact sheet) on how to grow the plant from seed. Im looking for information on the conditioning of the soil fertilizers ect....im looking for gereral information for anyone to use...not just for arizona conditions. Any other information you my have would be great too. From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 20:55:17 1999 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29721 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:55:16 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id fCNA0aKt.8 (3879); Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:54:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.bba9f3d3.2557a36c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:54:20 EST To: seklug@earthlink.net CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Certified Arborist Listing The following website will have a list of Certified Arborists in your area: http://www.ag.uiuc.edu/~isa/arborists/arborist.html Good luck. Rod From arid_gardener-admin Sun Nov 7 22:54:36 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14261 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:54:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:54:36 -0700 (MST) From: tacman7@aol.com Message-Id: <199911080554.WAA14261@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I just bought a new home and had sod layed in the back yard about two weeks ago. The sod is seeded with winter rye. I have a sprinkler system. I would like to know how often and for how long the grass should be watered? i.e. three times a week for 20 minutes. From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 08:51:40 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu ([206.207.133.21]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08448; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:51:38 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3826F194.6386B2BB@ag.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 08:51:48 -0700 From: "Barry L. Bequette" Organization: University of Arizona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "az_mg_pro@Ag.Arizona.Edu" , arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B8EB8302FE3E4EBE7DD9329C" Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: Horticulture Conference] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B8EB8302FE3E4EBE7DD9329C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Barry L. Bequette, Ph.D. University of Arizona County Extension Director, Yuma County 2200 West 28th Street, Suite 102 Yuma, AZ 85364-6928 Phone: (520) 726-3904 Fax: (520) 726-8472 Mobile: (520) 210-1663 email: plantdoc@ag.arizona.edu --------------B8EB8302FE3E4EBE7DD9329C Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05038 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:36:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14561 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:35:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip-19-208.yum.primenet.com(207.218.19.208), claiming to be "blakelyr" via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAloaOmC; Mon Nov 8 08:35:23 1999 Message-ID: <000c01bf29fd$c53039c0$0c00060a@blakelyr> From: "Roger Blakeley" To: Subject: Horticulture Conference Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:27:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF29C3.0D31EB00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF29C3.0D31EB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yuma's Home and Garden Horticulture Conference Agenda: 7:30 a.m. - 8:30 a.m. Registration and opening Comments 8:30 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. Pruning for the Life of the Tree. Terry Mikel U of = A Cooperative Extension, Phoenix, Arizona. 9:30 a.m. - 10:30 a.m. Disease in your lawn and landscape. Mike Matheron = U of A Cooperative Extension, Yuma, Arizona. 10:30 a.m. - 10:45 a.m. Break 10:45 a.m. - 11:45 a.m. Home Citrus Care. Glen Wright U of A Cooperative = Extension, Yuma, Arizona. 11:45 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Lunch and Raffle 12:30 p.m. - 1:30 p.m. The Good and Bad Insects in your Yard. David = Kerns U of A Cooperative Extension, Yuma, Arizona. 1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. Desert Landscaping. Barry Bequette U of A = Cooperative Extension, Director, Yuma, Arizona. 2:30 p.m. - 2:35 p.m. Break 2:35 p.m. - 3:35 p.m. Trees in the Nursery. Roger Blakeley City of Yuma = Parks & Recreation Department, Yuma, Arizona. Date: February 12, 2000 Time: 8:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. Place: Cooperative Extension Auditorium 2200 W. 28th Street. Cost: $5.00 Pre- sign-up $10.00 at the door. R.S.V.P. At the Yuma County Cooperative Extension Office 2200 W. 28th Street Yuma, Arizona 726-3904 Raffle On Garden Items 8 Advanced Master Gardner Credit Hours Offered! ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF29C3.0D31EB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yuma’s Home and Garden Horticulture Conference

Agenda:

7:30 a.m. – 8:30 a.m. Registration and opening Comments

8:30 a.m. – 9:30 a.m. Pruning for the Life of the Tree. Terry = Mikel U of A=20 Cooperative Extension, Phoenix, Arizona.

9:30 a.m. – 10:30 a.m. Disease in your lawn and landscape. Mike = Matheron U of=20 A Cooperative Extension, Yuma, Arizona.

10:30 a.m. – 10:45 a.m. Break

10:45 a.m. – 11:45 a.m. Home Citrus Care. Glen Wright U of A = Cooperative=20 Extension, Yuma, Arizona.

11:45 a.m. – 12:30 p.m. Lunch and Raffle

12:30 p.m. – 1:30 p.m. The Good and Bad Insects in your Yard. = David Kerns U=20 of A Cooperative Extension, Yuma, Arizona.

1:30 p.m. – 2:30 p.m. Desert Landscaping. Barry Bequette U of A = Cooperative=20 Extension, Director, Yuma, Arizona.

2:30 p.m. – 2:35 p.m. Break

2:35 p.m. – 3:35 p.m. Trees in the Nursery. Roger Blakeley City = of Yuma Parks=20 & Recreation Department, Yuma, Arizona.

Date: February 12, 2000

Time: 8:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m.

Place: Cooperative Extension Auditorium 2200 W. = 28th=20 Street.

Cost: $5.00 Pre- sign-up

$10.00 at the door.

R.S.V.P. At the Yuma County Cooperative Extension = Office

2200 W. 28th Street Yuma, Arizona

726-3904

Raffle On Garden Items

8 Advanced Master Gardner Credit Hours Offered!

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF29C3.0D31EB00-- --------------B8EB8302FE3E4EBE7DD9329C-- From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 09:45:22 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22387 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:45:19 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:45:19 -0700 (MST) From: solson@asu.edu Message-Id: <199911081645.JAA22387@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a large Allepo Pine in my backyard approximately 20 years old. It has suddenly died. The tree is extremely dry, but the trimmer says it is solid. He thinks it died because of the APS wires that run through the branches. What do you think? From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 11:42:01 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23508 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:41:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:41:59 -0700 (MST) From: yiayia1@prodigy.net Message-Id: <199911081841.LAA23508@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page We were recently given a plant simply labeled Sapphire Dragon Tree, with no other information available. We have not been able to find out what this plant is, nor how to care for it. Can someone help? From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 12:25:44 1999 Received: from post1.inre.asu.edu (post1.inre.asu.edu [129.219.13.100]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04229 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:25:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.13.92]) by asu.edu (PMDF V5.2-31 #31135) with ESMTP id <0FKW009FB8IMCR@asu.edu> for arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:23:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from asuwest-online.west.asu.edu (asuwest-online.west.asu.edu [149.169.184.38]) by smtp.asu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15516 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 1999 12:24:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 12:23:04 -0700 From: mike.todd@asu.edu (Michael Todd) To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Sapphire Dragon Tree Here are the URLs for a couple of websites that could be of some use: http://www.paulownia.org/bibliography.html http://www.sapphire-dragon.com/ Good luck. -mike t. arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu writes: >Message: 9 >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:41:59 -0700 (MST) >From: yiayia1@prodigy.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > >We were recently given a plant simply labeled Sapphire Dragon Tree, with >no other information available. We have not been able to find out what >this plant is, nor how to care for it. Can someone help? Mike Todd Graduate Research Associate Dept of Psychology | Dept of Social and Behavioral Sciences-MC 3051 Arizona State University | Arizona State University West PO Box 871104 | PO Box 37100 Tempe AZ 85287-1104 | Phoenix AZ 85069-7100 E-mail: mike.todd@asu.edu ASU Psychology-Voice:480.965.3326 (mssg only); Fax: 480.965.8544 ASUW Social & Behavioral Sci-Voice: 602.543.6324; Fax: 602.543.6004 From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 15:37:42 1999 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21170 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:37:39 -0700 (MST) From: JeanSciFi@aol.com Received: from JeanSciFi@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id dQKKa11550 (3949); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:37:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.b78d471d.2558aa93@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:37:07 EST Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] bougainvillea To: PLANTLADYAZ@webtv.com CC: Arid_Gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Hi, In areas with caliche, the addition of soil sulfur and organic matter to the backfill will help to break down the caliche and release nutrients to the plants. Although it is often recommended gypsum should not be used because it is ineffective in caliche or calcified soils. Plants properly suited to the local soils will perform well with native soil as the backfill. I have several friends that planted their bougainvillea into the native clay soil we have in our neighborhood, with no amendments. I have mine in a pot filled with potting soil. All seem to be doing fine so they must have a wide range of tolerance. I find no specific information as to plant depth but the usual is to guide by the potted plant itself. It should not be planted deeper then it is in the pot. In a message dated 11/5/99 2:45:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, PLANTLADYAZ@webtv.com writes: << Subj: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: 11/5/99 2:45:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time From: PLANTLADYAZ@webtv.com Sender: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu arid_gardener How deep do I dig a hole for a bougainvillea? Do I ammend soil if it is all caleche? >> From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 15:37:42 1999 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21169; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 15:37:38 -0700 (MST) From: JeanSciFi@aol.com Received: from JeanSciFi@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nHGPa17719 (3949); Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:37:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.15a8724f.2558aa91@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:37:05 EST Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Avocado Tree To: aaryn@Ag.Arizona.Edu CC: Arid_Gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Hi, Probably your best bet for an answer to your avocado question is to contact Dick Gross. rkg144@worlnet.att.net He is the secretary of the Arizona Rare Fruit Growers. This group has the best information for growing semi tropical plants in the valley. JeanSciFi@aol.com Master Gardener Volunter, Apache Junction, AZ In a message dated 11/4/99 11:03:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, aaryn@Ag.Arizona.Edu writes: << Subj: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: 11/4/99 11:03:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time From: aaryn@Ag.Arizona.Edu Sender: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu arid_gardener What temperatures are avocado trees hardy to? _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener >> From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 17:43:35 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21534 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:43:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:43:35 -0700 (MST) From: reesaviary@cs.com Message-Id: <199911090043.RAA21534@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page when do you pick the olives to be canned and how to can green and black olives? From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 22:42:40 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04250 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:42:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:42:40 -0700 (MST) From: Pacsmith@att.net Message-Id: <199911090542.WAA04250@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page We are debating whether our queen palms and trees are better nurtured by our care or that of a tree service. Please help me understand: 1) whether queen palms need deep root ferilization or can obtain the required nutrients via a pellet-type palm tree fertilizer sprinkled beneath the tree and watered into the soil (in other words, do-it-yourself). Ours need some special care right now, with some fronds growing in stunted. What is the lifespan of a queen palm? We are trying to determine how much to invest in the upkeep of these palms. 2/ is deep root fertilization necessary for healthy citrus, ash and mesquite trees? we have been fertilizing them ourselves, and a tree service said that once-a-year deep root fertilization and slow-release fertilizer spikes would ensure a nutritionally healthy tree. What do you think? We want to nourish our trees, but a service can become quite expensive, compared to doing it ourselves. 3/ Is there much difference between Bordeaux and Aliette fungicides? 4/ We have a Chinese Evergreen Elm that we planted last spring. Since then we have discovered that they are susceptible to root rot. Our neighborhood has lost several trees to root rot in past years. What can we do to protect our tree? Thanks for your help! From arid_gardener-admin Mon Nov 8 22:44:04 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04419 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:44:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:44:04 -0700 (MST) From: Pacsmith@att.net Message-Id: <199911090544.WAA04419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page We are debating whether our queen palms and trees are better nurtured by our care or that of a tree service. Please help me understand: 1) whether queen palms need deep root ferilization or can obtain the required nutrients via a pellet-type palm tree fertilizer sprinkled beneath the tree and watered into the soil (in other words, do-it-yourself). Ours need some special care right now, with some fronds growing in stunted. What is the lifespan of a queen palm? We are trying to determine how much to invest in the upkeep of these palms. 2/ is deep root fertilization necessary for healthy citrus, ash and mesquite trees? we have been fertilizing them ourselves, and a tree service said that once-a-year deep root fertilization and slow-release fertilizer spikes would ensure a nutritionally healthy tree. What do you think? We want to nourish our trees, but a service can become quite expensive, compared to doing it ourselves. 3/ Is there much difference between Bordeaux and Aliette fungicides? 4/ We have a Chinese Evergreen Elm that we planted last spring. Since then we have discovered that they are susceptible to root rot. Our neighborhood has lost several trees to root rot in past years. What can we do to protect our tree? Thanks for your help! From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 09:09:56 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04894 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:09:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:09:53 -0700 (MST) From: maxcel@swlink.net Message-Id: <199911091609.JAA04894@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a small compost pile in my backyard that I started earlier this year. It has a large number of ants in it, but it also has worms that we can't identify. When I saw them a couple of weeks ago, they looked like they were about an inch long and very pale. I thought they might be some type of grub. Any idea what these might be and if they are OK for my compost? From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 11:08:22 1999 Received: from imo-d10.mx (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05446 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:08:21 -0700 (MST) From: Phgeditors@aol.com Received: from Phgeditors@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id nRSAGes0K_ (4250) for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:07:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.ae767f48.2559bcf3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:07:47 EST To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Why am I finding so many slugs underneath my plastic nursery pots (the ones with plants in them)? And at night they are all over our cement stepping stones. I live in central Phoenix and have never had this problem before. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 11:37:15 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14006 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:37:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:37:13 -0700 (MST) From: DorrineM@AOL.com Message-Id: <199911091837.LAA14006@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Are there any bedding plants that rabbits will NOT eat? Something (probably rabbits) seem to eat everything I plant. It is a small area in front of house - have tried Lantana and roses. Would like to put in pansy or petunias - is this possible without fencing? We live in Sun City West - and also wonder what to put out to eliminate rodents - seem to have them also? Any rabbit repelents? From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 11:55:47 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21559 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:55:47 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:55:47 -0700 (MST) From: dmaceachern@energes.com Message-Id: <199911091855.LAA21559@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Very nice Web Site (we do web sites for a living) I have a question on how to trim/prune two trees I have in my front yard. They were new and planted in May. I believe they are members of the Mesquite family. They have doubled in width & height. I want to trim them back in width so they are not interfering with the sidewalk and driveway and contiue to grow tall. Is there a web site page you could direct me to that either explains or illustrates the proper method. I am new to the area and want to ensure I do not damage the plant. Thank You. From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 13:20:06 1999 Received: from phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.2]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06386 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:20:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 7928 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 1999 20:19:19 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu@fixme Received: (qmail 7867 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 1999 20:19:17 -0000 Received: from avdialup133.phnx.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.225.211.133) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 20:19:17 -0000 Message-ID: <382882FD.AA6FFB6A@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:24:29 -0700 From: Sue Bass X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmaceachern@energes.com CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question Pruning Trees References: <199911091855.LAA21559@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can visit the following page from the Master Gardener manual for great information on pruning: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/pruning.html Good luck! Sue Bass Master Gardener Volunteer dmaceachern@energes.com wrote: > arid_gardener > Very nice Web Site (we do web sites for a living) > > I have a question on how to trim/prune > two trees I have in my front yard. They were > new and planted in May. I believe they are > members of the Mesquite family. They have doubled > in width & height. I want to trim them back in > width so they are not interfering with the > sidewalk and driveway and contiue to grow tall. > > Is there a web site page you could direct me to > that either explains or illustrates the > proper method. I am new to the area and want > to ensure I do not damage the plant. > > Thank You. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 13:45:40 1999 Received: from phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.1]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16723 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:45:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23154 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 1999 20:45:04 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-arid_Gardener@AG.Arizona.Edu@fixme Received: (qmail 23086 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 1999 20:45:01 -0000 Received: from avdialup133.phnx.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.225.211.133) by phnxpop1.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 20:45:01 -0000 Message-ID: <38288904.CF486C75@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:50:12 -0700 From: Sue Bass X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DorrineM@AOL.com CC: arid_Gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question Rabbits in the Garden References: <199911091837.LAA14006@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dorrine: I have a few ideas that MIGHT help you. In a book I have called, "A Miscellany of Garden Wisdom" (its a collection of homespun, old time knowledge) it is mentioned that a liberal planting of Foxglove will keep rabbits away. If you like foxglove, it might be worth a try. It also mentioned onions. I use a product called Repel which I purchase at nurseries. I use it to keep cats from using my flower bed as a litter box. It works well for that. The container lists Rabbits as well. Always follow the instructions on the container. Chicken wire fencing is one of the most effective ways to keep rabbits out. You can also visit the following site: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/pests/index.html This is a new section of the on-line Master Gardener manual, which may give you some suggestions. Good luck! Sue Bass Master Gardener Volunteer DorrineM@AOL.com wrote: > arid_gardener > Are there any bedding plants that rabbits will NOT eat? Something (probably rabbits) seem to eat everything I plant. It is a small area in front of house - have tried Lantana and roses. Would like to put in pansy or petunias - is this possible without fencing? > We live in Sun City West - and also wonder what to put out to eliminate rodents - seem to have them also? Any rabbit repelents? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From arid_gardener-admin Tue Nov 9 17:06:47 1999 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04860 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:06:45 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id 2EMIa12173 (3888); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:06:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.62882a0.255a10f1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:06:09 EST To: Pacsmith@att.net CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Queen Palm and other tree care Queen Palms are not native to nor are they well adapted to our low desert, and because of this they are not long lived. It is not a tree that one can plant and forget. It must be watered and fertilized properly. Granular fertilizer uniformly spread on the ground at the drip line of the tree, whether palm or other tree, and watered in well will provide a more uniform fertilization than other methods. Fertilization by injection could be a viable way to correct a nutrient dificiency or for a special situation. Fertilizer spikes will provide the tree with a uniform nutrient release which you won't have with the surface application. A combination of the spikes with the surface application will work well provided the reccommended rate is not exceeded. Bordeaux is a copper based fungicide quite commonly used on many applications in the garden and landscape. One of its applications is to treat bud rot on palms. Alliette, a more costly fungicide, appears to be targeted toward a specific fungi. Sorry but I don't have available a chemical make up of Alliette. If it is important to you I could research it. The Evergreen Elm is quite susceptable to Texas Root Rot. One way to minimise the chances of Texas Root Rot is not to over water. Periodic applications of soil sulfur will help to lower the soil pH which is also helpful. But most of all INCREASE the irrigation interval in fall, and more in winter. Each time you water, DEEP WATER. Good luck. Rod McKusick, Master Gardener and Arborist From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 14:22:02 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.18]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02864 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:21:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from default - 63.14.199.79 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:21:28 -0800 Message-ID: <000201bf2bc0$2ae921a0$4fc70e3f@default> From: "Mike Hills" To: , Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:40:38 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hello Scott in Thatcher If I am reading my map correctly, you are at about 3,000 foot elevation which gives you more options for turfgrass than us low desert gardeners. You may want to double check with your local county extension agent for their local recommendations for turfgrass in your area. You should be able to grow a Turf Tall Fescue lawn which would be "softer" than bermuda, and will also remain green year round. You should plant this grass seed in the early-mid Fall or in early spring. A Fall planting will be better to allow the fescue plants to establish a strong root system before next summer's heat returns. Deep, infrequent watering will make the grass healthier. This grass species does require more water than bermuda, but once your stand is a couple of years old, it will have a deep root system. Mowing height is recommended at 2-3 inches, and this grass species is fairly tolerant of shade if you have older trees. Plant 6-8 pounds seed per 1,000 square feet of turf area (DO NOT plant more than this rate - too many seedlings crowding each other will promote disease). Your local garden centers and nurseries should have detailed information for you on planting and care of this turfgrass species. There are many different varieties and brand names available, just make sure that the seed package label says the words "Turf Tall Fescue" somewhere on it. Good Luck Mike Hills Master Gardener, Maricopa County Research Agronomist, Seed Research of Oregon ******************************************* -----Original Message----- From: scottwlee@hotmail.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 2:34 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >arid_gardener >I am from thatcher, az in the south east corner in the gila vally. I am interested in planting a lawn. I would like to know about the grasses I could use. I would prefer to use one that is softer than Bermuda grass. I admitt that I know very little about grasses, so please keep your information not too technical. Thanks a lot! > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 14:22:30 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.18]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02999 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:22:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from default - 63.14.199.79 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:21:54 -0800 Message-ID: <000901bf2bc0$3a7dc760$4fc70e3f@default> From: "Mike Hills" To: , Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:19:21 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Just a brief note from my personal experience. 1) It helps to soak the seed for a few hours or overnite in warm water - fairly hard seed coat so this helps the seed to imbibe water and germinate better & faster. 2) This plant is tolerant of a wide range of soil types and pH, but it does need a fairly large volume of water - not a drought tolerant plant. 3) You are also aware I hope that the seeds are poisonous so this is a plant not usually recommended for planting in yards with kids, in case they eat them. 4) Frost sensitive, but a well established plant will generally regrow in the spring from the trunk and main branches mike hills - maricopa county master gardener **************************************. -----Original Message----- From: Codiedale@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 7:22 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >arid_gardener >I have been researching the Castor Bean for some time now and have been attempting to put together a information sheet (fact sheet) >on how to grow the plant from seed. Im looking for information on the conditioning of the soil fertilizers ect....im looking for gereral information for anyone to use...not just for arizona conditions. Any other information you my have would be great too. > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 14:22:49 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.18]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03124 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:22:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from default - 63.14.199.79 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:22:36 -0800 Message-ID: <001701bf2bc0$53bbe040$4fc70e3f@default> From: "Mike Hills" To: , Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] rabbit repellent plants Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:33:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Dorrine - you might try planting some YARROW plants. This is a herb that looks a lot like a fern, and comes in many different bloom colors - grows very well here in the Valley. Readily available at local nurseries and garden centers this time of year. The flowers can be dried and used in crafts and flower arrangements. According to many members of the Arizona Herb Association who grow this plant, the pungent smell of the leaves is not pleasing to rabbits so they usually avoid eating these. Some members recommend planting these yarrow plants along the front or outer edge of the flower beds so the rabbits hit them first and are hopefully turned aside. I am surprised that they ate your lantana. Next spring you may want to try planting larger size lantana plants so that they have a better start and can then keep up enough growth to get ahead of the animal munching. I have also had people recommend several different items below to use as rabbit repellents, HOWEVER, please be aware that in very dry years with little in the desert to eat, the rabbits and other desert dwellers will come into your yard anyway once they get hungry enough. Blood Meal or Bone Meal sprinkled around the garden beds - available at nurseries. Human, Cat or Dog hair tied up in little muslin or cheesecloth bags and hung in your shrubs and bushes - the odor of "predator" is supposed to keep rabbits away. Cat litterbox cleanout (cat dung) scattered around the edge of your property is sometimes effective in repelling the rabbits into other people's yards (again due to the potential cat predator threat) Moth Balls - available at drugstores - scattered around in the foliage or along the edge of your property where you think the animals are netering. Not on any human edible plants and please be aware that the smell that helps keep the rabbits away is also not pleasant for people. Commercial spray and powder products to repell pests can be purchased at your garden center, hardware store or nursery and do sometimes work (example: "Ropell"). You may also want to contact the Desert Botanical Garden and The Arizona Game & Fish office - both have helpful publications on this topic. Mike Hills - Master Gardener Volunteer, Maricopa County ****************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: DorrineM@AOL.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >arid_gardener >Are there any bedding plants that rabbits will NOT eat? Something (probably rabbits) seem to eat everything I plant. It is a small area in front of house - have tried Lantana and roses. Would like to put in pansy or petunias - is this possible without fencing? >We live in Sun City West - and also wonder what to put out to eliminate rodents - seem to have them also? Any rabbit repelents? > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 15:15:03 1999 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.60]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16009 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:15:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from default - 63.14.199.79 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:14:28 -0800 Message-ID: <015901bf2bc7$93432280$4fc70e3f@default> From: "Mike Hills" To: , Subject: Fw: [Arid_gardener] Castor Beans Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:04:33 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 >arid_gardener >Just a brief note from my personal experience. > >1) It helps to soak the seed for a few hours or overnite in warm water - >fairly hard seed coat so this helps the seed to imbibe water and germinate >better & faster. > >2) This plant is tolerant of a wide range of soil types and pH, but it does >need a fairly large volume of water - not a drought tolerant plant. > >3) You are also aware I hope that the seeds are poisonous so this is a >plant not usually recommended for planting in yards with kids, in case they >eat them. > >4) Frost sensitive, but a well established plant will generally regrow in >the spring from the trunk and main branches > > >mike hills - maricopa county master gardener >**************************************. >-----Original Message----- >From: Codiedale@aol.com >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 7:22 PM >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > >>arid_gardener >>I have been researching the Castor Bean for some time now and have been >attempting to put together a information sheet (fact sheet) >>on how to grow the plant from seed. Im looking for information on the >conditioning of the soil fertilizers ect....im looking for gereral >information for anyone to use...not just for arizona conditions. Any other >information you my have would be great too. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Arid_gardener mailing list >>Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener >> > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 15:41:44 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22953 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:41:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:41:43 -0700 (MST) From: dybegay@amug.org Message-Id: <199911102241.PAA22953@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I live in the NE area. I have a small garden and I like to know how and where I can find frost dates. From arid_gardener-admin Wed Nov 10 16:12:12 1999 Received: from trifid.u.arizona.edu (root@trifid.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.197]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29574; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:12:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from acacia (acacia.mac-coopext.Arizona.EDU [204.27.250.46]) by trifid.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA35774; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:12:08 -0700 Message-Id: <4.1.19991110160359.0092a2e0@ag.arizona.edu> X-Sender: cnoyes@ag.arizona.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:10:05 -0700 To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu From: Carol Noyes Cc: maricopa-mg@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_29171197==_.ALT" Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) --=====================_29171197==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The South Mountain Farmers Market, located at 6414 S. 26th Street at Waldron Farms, is looking for vendors to compliment its growing Farmers Market. This is a TRUE Farmers Market; you must grow the produce, herbs, flowers, honey, etc. yourself. (NO brokers please) If you would like to get into the growing business or just want an outlet for your occasional bumper crops, this is a great place to start. Stop by and see our market for yourself, every Saturday from 9 to 1, or give Frank Martin a call at 602-604-2413 (voice mail) for more information. Carol Noyes Administrative Secretary Maricopa County Urban Horticulture/Master Gardener programs 602-470-8086 Ext. 308 Have a wonderful day!! ~ U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~ --=====================_29171197==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" The South Mountain Farmers Market, located at 6414 S. 26th Street at Waldron Farms, is looking for vendors to compliment its growing Farmers Market.  This is a TRUE Farmers Market; you must grow the produce, herbs, flowers, honey, etc. yourself.  (NO brokers please)

If you would like to get into the growing business or just want an outlet for your occasional bumper crops, this is a great place to start.  Stop by and see our market for yourself, every Saturday from 9 to 1, or give Frank Martin a call at 602-604-2413 (voice mail) for more information.


Carol Noyes
Administrative Secretary
Maricopa County
Urban Horticulture/Master Gardener programs

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~ U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~ --=====================_29171197==_.ALT-- From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 11 06:38:16 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA03682 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:38:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:38:15 -0700 (MST) From: ed-gayle@home.com Message-Id: <199911111338.GAA03682@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page A friend has a pomegranate tree that doesn't have decent fruit (it doesn't ripen). She said she was told it may be an ornamental. I read somewhere that there is a trick (special feeding or watering) to making pomegranates ripen. What do you think? Is it an ornamental or does it need feeding? I think the article I saw was in the newspaper. I've search the 'net for info and haven't found anything. From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 11 08:06:03 1999 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11989 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:06:03 -0700 (MST) From: PERFLOWERS@aol.com Received: from PERFLOWERS@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id tSUTa25296 (2615); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:05:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.e4da6b72.255c3536@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:05:26 EST Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page To: ed-gayle@home.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 I have an ornamental pomegranate tree and it never gets any fruit on it. It is grown for the blooms. Val From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 11 09:27:15 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24539 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:27:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:27:15 -0700 (MST) From: maxcel@swlink.net Message-Id: <199911111627.JAA24539@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a hibiscus in my backyard that I planted last fall. Towards the end of this summer it finally started growing! It has put on about 1 1/2 - 2 feet of growth. Now I am wondering when and how much I should cut it back so that it won't get leggy. Also, it hasn't flowered in a long time. When can I expect to see some flowers? Thanks, Celestine From arid_gardener-admin Thu Nov 11 14:45:11 1999 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11829 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:45:10 -0700 (MST) From: RodMcQ6@aol.com Received: from RodMcQ6@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.4.) id g.0.d0fa3c32 (4419); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:44:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0.d0fa3c32.255c92a1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:44:01 EST To: maxcel@swlink.net CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 219 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Hibiscus: with vegetative growth and no blooms Celestine, You can prune back your hibiscus about 1/3 next spring after the danger of frost is past. Too much nitrogen fertilizer would cause a lot of vegetative growth and few blossoms. I would suggest that you use a balanced fertilizer. Good luck. Rod From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 12 06:40:04 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24789 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:40:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 06:40:04 -0700 (MST) From: gretchen@hpiug.org Message-Id: <199911121340.GAA24789@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Is there an inexpensive but reliable way to water is of my houseplants while away on an extended vacation (2 months) ? I have found some wick devices that last two weeks. From arid_gardener-admin Fri Nov 12 17:18:41 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00306 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:18:40 -0700 (MST) From: valpogrl@aol.com Message-Id: <199911130018.RAA00306@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To: Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Hi, I am having problems with my roses generally this fall, the worst is a "Paradise" rose, about 10 years old. Alot of the leaves have turned yellow and then fallen, I haven't seen any black spot however. BUT, the stems are turning purple, though they don't seem swollen, just purple. Black spot? Vitamin defiency? Any ideas? Thanks, Cindy From arid_gardener-admin Sat Nov 13 06:33:34 1999 Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05767 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 1999 06:33:33 -0700 (MS