From umiller@azdps.com Wed Aug 1 00:59:26 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:59:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] August flowers in planters In-Reply-To: <200107312218.f6VMIoW14810@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: If you don't mind planting annuals that won't make it through the winter, you could buy a whole bunch of purslane (portulacca). They have fleshy leaves, grow low, and come in some pretty colors - yellow, red, etc. (There are two kinds of portulacca, but I think that that purslane has the prettiest colors and flowers. The Sunset Western Garden book calls it "essentially a weed" - but who cares if it looks nice? Also, you can supposedly use it in salad, soup, pork stew, tomato sauce and scambled eggs. I have not tried any of these culinary delights, however. I think I'll stick with salt and pepper.) They can stand the heat which is VERY important for August. If you give them plenty of water, they'll produce nice flowers. Also, I don't remember seeing these plants back east, so they may add some local interest to your plants for your NY friends. Here is a site that shows some photos http://www.ameriprod.com/purslane.htm though I've never seen the multicolor types here in stores. I just planted some purslane in my above-ground pots on the patio because I ended up with some empty pots after the geraniums finally succumbed to the heat. You can buy these plants almost anywhere. I picked mine up at Target. Just FYI, I put the whole pot into the soil. Then when they die back when it gets cold, I just remove the pot with all the dead plants in it and replace the hole with another pot full of other flowering annuals. I did this last year and it worked like a charm. Maybe someone else can come up with more ideas for you but I think flower planting is kind of limited this time of year. Ursula Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of corys@southwestjet.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:19 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Could you please tell me what kind of flowers can I plant in our built into the ground planter. Folks are coming at the end of August from NY and I would like to have pretty, colorful flowers in our planters. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. PS Could you please use layman names of the flowers? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From klrpignato@aol.com Wed Aug 1 02:08:57 2001 From: klrpignato@aol.com (klrpignato@aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108010208.f7128vW10220@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Every August, my geraniums, that I have babied through June and July, turn brown and wilt. I know they don't usually do well in the summer, but there is a house in the neighborhood that has a hedge of geraniums on a west facing wall for years. What am I doing wrong? They received water 10 min on bubblers every day. Thanks for your help. From PERFLOWERS@aol.com Wed Aug 1 02:36:31 2001 From: PERFLOWERS@aol.com (PERFLOWERS@aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:36:31 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Flowers for summer bloom Message-ID: <11c.274d887.2898c52f@aol.com> Zinnias, cosmos (yellow, orange, gold), tithonia (Mexican sunflower), and moss rose (portulaca grandiflora) are easy to grow plants that do well in the summers here. They are easy to grow from seed, but I kind of doubt they would be blooming by the end of Aug if you planted the seed now. Val From strainjc@earthlink.net Wed Aug 1 15:18:33 2001 From: strainjc@earthlink.net (strainjc@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:18:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108011518.f71FIXW21521@Ag.Arizona.Edu> In Feb. I planted bare root hybrid tea roses. The roses are producing blooms in small groups and size like cheap bush roses. Only the first ones produced longer stems and individual blooms. Now the plants look half dead. How much water should I be giving them and is there a chance the packages were marked wrong and I did not get hybrid teas? I have never had this problem before, but I am new to Arizona. When can I fertilize again? I stopped in mid-June. They get almost full sun until late afternoon and many of the leaves are dried up or yellow. Help! From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Wed Aug 1 16:11:42 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:11:42 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Summer Rose Care References: <200108011518.f71FIXW21521@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <010d01c11aa4$a819b3e0$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> The summer months in the low desert are especially tough on roses, they just hunker down and try to survive the summer. Watering at least twice a week and if they still look stressed water again. It is important to water deeply as this will wash the salts below the root level as well as encouraging the roots to grow deeper. It will help to mulch the plants which will keep the roots cooler and conserve water. If the roses have good drainage, you can will not over water them. Roses like a lot of fertilizer, so while you reduce the amount of fertilizer by half during the summer, you should not quit fertilizing altogether. Use a slow release fertilizer and fertilize every six weeks.. After fertilizing, water deeply so the fertilizer will not burn the roots.. Scott Rogers MG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > In Feb. I planted bare root hybrid tea roses. The roses are producing blooms in small groups and size like cheap bush roses. Only the first ones produced longer stems and individual blooms. Now the plants look half dead. How much water should I be giving them and is there a chance the packages were marked wrong and I did not get hybrid teas? I have never had this problem before, but I am new to Arizona. When can I fertilize again? I stopped in mid-June. They get almost full sun until late afternoon and many of the leaves are dried up or yellow. Help! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Wed Aug 1 16:14:42 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:14:42 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200108011518.f71FIXW21521@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B682AF2.2E76863E@email.sps.mot.com> Hi, Their is always a chance of mislabeled roses, but it is not common. Almost all roses have smaller roses, fewer petals, this time of year, when it is so hot. This is not uncommon for this time of year. I do not fertilize my roses at all from June through September. But if you must, I would recommend using a time released fertilizer such as Oscmote, so that you do not burn the roots on your roses. Be aware that in new growth stimulated by the fertilizer could very likely be burnt to a crisp in the heat, and wouldn't get the chance to produce much bloom anyway. In regardes to your yellow leaves, and the bareness of the canes. I suspect Spidermites. Spray your roses with a good burst of water, especially under the leaves, once every two or three days through the summer. Spidermites to not like humid wet environments. They like it dry and hot. Don't fret, your roses will come back when it cools off and provide you with wonderful blooms all the way through till Christmas, later if you let them. However I generally prune in January, in preparation for another great year of roses :) Never, ever prune your roses this time of year. You want to keep all the foilage you have to shade the canes and keep them from getting sunburnt. Alan strainjc@earthlink.net wrote: > In Feb. I planted bare root hybrid tea roses. The roses are producing blooms in small groups and size like cheap bush roses. Only the first ones produced longer stems and individual blooms. Now the plants look half dead. How much water should I be giving them and is there a chance the packages were marked wrong and I did not get hybrid teas? I have never had this problem before, but I am new to Arizona. When can I fertilize again? I stopped in mid-June. They get almost full sun until late afternoon and many of the leaves are dried up or yellow. Help! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sonoraleisure@qwest.net Wed Aug 1 20:45:32 2001 From: sonoraleisure@qwest.net (sonoraleisure@qwest.net) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:45:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108012045.f71KjWW17557@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We go out of town for 2/3 weeks at a time. Is there solution to keep the indoor potted plants alive and well for this long ?. The Ciciliatos in Gold Canyon, AZ. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Aug 1 21:52:56 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:52:56 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Drip lines with filaments surrounding them Message-ID: <7b.1861c9a6.2899d438@aol.com> Michael, Thanks for sending the photos, I couldn't see detail well enough to be sure but I still think that what you are seeing are roots and especially since you told me how you are watering and with continuous watering for several weeks. You are way off target on your watering, too often and not enough water. If your bougainvillea has been in the ground for one year it requires very little water, in fact after one year I remove the drippers altogether on my bougainvillea and it rewards me with a great display of color. For the pepper tree if it is at least one year old deep watering once a week during the summer is very adequate, and by deep watering I mean running the drippers for 5 to 6 hours or until the water penetrates to adepth of 3 feet. You must get the roots down deep to get away from the hot soil surface and deep watering will help to flush the salts out of the root zone. Check out this link which will give you info on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From twoluckydogs@mindspring.com Wed Aug 1 23:10:35 2001 From: twoluckydogs@mindspring.com (twoluckydogs@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:10:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108012310.f71NAZW11830@Ag.Arizona.Edu> gophers destroyed my entire garden and my rose bushes this year. I have tried many methods from poison sticks to wrigley's gum. Any suggestions? From millero@worldnet.att.net Wed Aug 1 23:23:27 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:23:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Harvesting Dates References: <200107312233.f6VMXHW16781@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <000a01c11ae0$f96002e0$fe51530c@j0r9501> There is an out-of-print Maricopa County CES Pub. No. 8330 that contains all of the requested information. It is too lengthy to include in the email body and attachments are not permitted on this email list. But you can view it at the temporary location: http://home.att.net/~millero/dates.htm Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: > I have a date palm and am trying to learn how to tell when they are ripe, how to harvest and how to dry? Any suggestions for where to look for this information. From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Aug 1 23:30:08 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:30:08 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Vacation-time watering, indoor plants Message-ID: Hello re: vaction-time watering of indoor potted plants For me, the best solution is to hire a neighbor to come in once a week to check the house and the health of the plants and to water all potted plants. If that isn't possible, group the plants together in a cool room (70 degrees) with no direct sunlight such as a bathroom with strong indirect light. You will probably need to keep the cooler or air conditioner on during hot months. THen follow one of the following: You can purchase felt capillary mats -- one end hangs down into a reservoir of water and the mat stays constantly wet. Stand plastic pots on the wet mat. Or fill containers taller than your pots with water and and place wisks from the container down into the soil in each pot to conduct water. (Be sure wicks are all the way to the bottom of the container.) A third possiblilty is to thoroughly water the pots and allow them to drain. Group them in the bathtob. Cover the plants with plastic bags supported by stakes so the plastic doesn't touch the foliage. Tie the bag around the rim of the pot. THe only system that has worked well for me is to ask a neighbor's help -- it is amazing what can happen in three weeks if there is no one around to catch problems as they arise. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: sonoraleisure@qwest.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:45:32 -0700 (MST) > >We go out of town for 2/3 weeks at a time. >Is there solution to keep the indoor potted plants alive and well for this >long ?. > >The Ciciliatos in Gold Canyon, AZ. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Wed Aug 1 23:41:51 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:41:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200108012310.f71NAZW11830@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <034501c11ae3$8ab06940$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> The University of Arizona, Cooperative Extension. Yavapai County has an excellent article about gopher control. To access this article, use the following link. http://ag.arizona.edu/yavapai/anr/hort/gopher/gophercontrol.html Scott Rogers MG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > gophers destroyed my entire garden and my rose bushes this year. I have tried many methods from poison sticks to wrigley's gum. Any suggestions? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Aug 1 23:46:57 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:46:57 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] gophers Message-ID: Lethal trapping is the only method I have heard of that is effective for gophers. For details, see: http://ag.arizona.edu/yavapai/anr/hort/gopher/gophercontrol.html However, control is "short-term". To really deal with gophers you will need to look at management strategies that are "long-term". The most reliable pocket gopher treatment for small areas is exclusion. This is achieved by digging a trench 24-36 inches deep, and building a barrier of sheet metal, concrete, or hardware cloth. Remember, it should also extend at least 12 inches above ground. Problems with exclusion include excessively rocky soil and the occasional gopher that will dig under the barrier. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: twoluckydogs@mindspring.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:10:35 -0700 (MST) > >gophers destroyed my entire garden and my rose bushes this year. I have >tried many methods from poison sticks to wrigley's gum. Any suggestions? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:04:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Where might I sell or donate mesquite beans? References: <000801c117e2$46db27e0$b52e11cc@james> Message-ID: <3B695DED.6760D1DC@qwest.net> --------------9AE43D40F822637581427503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a little bit out of your neighborhood, but I know that the Desert Botanical Garden in Phoenix has put out a request earlier this summer to collect mesquite pods, including screwbeans which I personally have in abundance, for their ethnobotany classes. They never seem to have enough to make flour! You could contact the Tucson Botanical Gardens to see if they have a similar need. Linda Guy, MG Phoenix James W Pavlacky wrote: > Mesquite beans are bountiful this year. I have far too many squirrels > and rats living on and around my property because of the bean supply. > I would hope to sell or donate at least 10 bushels of honey mesquite > beans in late August. If you could refer me to possible recipients I > would certainly appreciate it. I live near Safford, Az, in SE > Arizona. Jim > Pavlacky --------------9AE43D40F822637581427503 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a little bit out of your neighborhood, but I know that the Desert Botanical Garden in Phoenix has put out a request earlier this summer to collect mesquite pods, including screwbeans which I personally have in abundance, for their ethnobotany classes. They never seem to have enough to make flour! You could contact  the Tucson Botanical Gardens to see if they have a similar need.

Linda Guy, MG
Phoenix

James W Pavlacky wrote:

Mesquite beans are bountiful this year. I have far too many squirrels and rats living on and around my property because of the bean supply. I would hope to sell or donate at least 10 bushels of honey mesquite beans in late August. If you could refer me to possible recipients I would certainly appreciate it. I live near Safford, Az, in SE Arizona.                                                      Jim Pavlacky
--------------9AE43D40F822637581427503-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:07:56 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:07:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Native Legumes Seeds References: <200107301911.f6UJBHW27578@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B695EBC.420BF131@qwest.net> I've not done this personally, but have been taught and have seen replies in this server that suggest that scarification with a file is the most expedient route to go. I haven't bothered because I generally leave enough seed debris under the trees that I have volunteers the following season. This would tend to support the scarification process, since we walk over the ground and mash the pods against the decomposed granite mulch. I never lack for volunteers! Linda Guy, MG bevg521@aol.com wrote: > I have saved seeds from my Native trees > Mesquite, Palo Verde, etc. Can I soak them overnite and plant them? Any suggestions?? > tree cuttings??? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:14:31 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:14:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sweetpotatoes References: <000c01c114b4$4c08d2c0$e3a10404@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3B696047.43BF39D3@qwest.net> I turned to George Brookbank's standard, Desert Gardening, to see what he suggests. Since he recommends planting in an 18" deep trench, and slowly mounding soil until the trench is filled, this should give you some idea of how much mounding to do. If they survive the summer heat, they should be ready to harvest about the time of your Thanksgiving dinner! Linda Guy, MG Jonathan Kandell wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Kandell > To: Organic Gardening Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:37 PM > Subject: sweetpotatoes > > > I'm growing sweet potatoes. I have a bunch of long vines in a patch. Do I > > need to mound up dirt around the leaves and stems like you do with normal > > potatoes, or are they growing wonderfully under ground as the vine grows > > longer? > > > > jk > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:15:54 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:15:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Late Season Tomatoes References: <200107250500.f6P50tW08189@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B696099.75AFC47A@qwest.net> Most nurseries will stock some in the late summer and fall. Linda Guy, MG stutzee@att.net wrote: > I would like to know if there is any place in this area to buy tomato plants for late season planting. > I have started some from seed but young plants would have a better chance of producing before cold weather. > > Thanks > CES > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Thu Aug 2 14:34:28 2001 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:34:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: How long do black-eyed peas produce? References: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> <003001c11983$2ac2bc60$e6a10404@oemcomputer> <3B696442.4FE8A650@qwest.net> Message-ID: <002801c11b64$5b3ba680$97a20404@oemcomputer> No pest problems. Either virus or lack of fertilizer, perhaps? ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Guy To: Jonathan Kandell Cc: Arid_gardener Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: How long do black-eyed peas produce? > George Brookbank's book suggests that black-eyed peas can produce into > October. Are you having pest problems perhaps? > > Linda Guy, MG > > Jonathan Kandell wrote: > > > My black-eyed peas, planted in March, are now dying. They've produced two > > batches of beans. Is this normal for Tucson? > > > > j > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:22:01 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:22:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lizards References: <200107250347.f6P3lsW01717@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B696209.192DE0B6@qwest.net> I don't see my lizards very often either, unless I'm out early morning or after dusk. I have some growing in my succulent collection on the front patio and see them every time I water and they scurry from the pots. The ones I see at night look like albinos, and I assume they are hidden from the sun during the daytime. I even have a few living in the house which I eventually catch and move outside when they get big enough for the dog to notice them. Linda Guy, MG jennaz31@aol.com wrote: > Thank you for the responses to my cricket problem. The answer seems to be lizards. I did some research, looking at past questions in this sight to find topics on lizards and I understand how to create a habitat for them, but I don't have lizards. I've only seen one and that was a year ago. > This may sound dumb, but do I buy them at the store, then release them? > (I must be getting into this gardening thing, a year ago I never would have dreamed of entertaining the thought of buying lizards or any other creature for that matter!) > Thanks for your response > > Jenn > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Aug 2 14:31:31 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:31:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] How long do black-eyed peas produce? References: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> <003001c11983$2ac2bc60$e6a10404@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3B696442.4FE8A650@qwest.net> George Brookbank's book suggests that black-eyed peas can produce into October. Are you having pest problems perhaps? Linda Guy, MG Jonathan Kandell wrote: > My black-eyed peas, planted in March, are now dying. They've produced two > batches of beans. Is this normal for Tucson? > > j > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From TeeMcG@aol.com Fri Aug 3 21:50:50 2001 From: TeeMcG@aol.com (TeeMcG@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:50:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108032150.f73Loor19142@Ag.arizona.edu> What are the best plants to put around the pool to minimize leaves in the pool? Also, what are good xeriscape plants to plant in Phoenix, AZ that have a tropical appearence (for around the pool) From ewbtcb@earthlink.net Fri Aug 3 22:02:28 2001 From: ewbtcb@earthlink.net (E & T Barts) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 16:02:28 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ??? Message-ID: <3B6B1F73.AF9080BE@earthlink.net> Somehow, your messages are being forwarded here. Please stop that! ewbtcb@earthlink.net From cnoyes@Ag.arizona.edu Fri Aug 3 22:03:11 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.arizona.edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 15:03:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: Re: [AG] Fwd: mesquite roots Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010803150305.00aafaa0@ag.arizona.edu> >X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 13:30:48 -0700 >From: Evans >Reply-To: laurae@azstarnet.com >Organization: tcp >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >To: Carol Noyes >Subject: Re: [AG] Fwd: mesquite roots > >You can treat them, but with the water so close, the tree will continue to be >a problem. If possible, move the garden, or raise the beds...on top of a >barrier if possible. Mesquites will seek water where they can find it. You may >also dig a large well around the tree and flood irrigate the area once a week >to keep the root zone happy. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but >trees are water hogs, and need to be treated as such. > > >Bruce Evans >Park Horticulturist >Tohono Chul Park Carol Noyes Administrative Secretary Maricopa County Cooperative Extension Urban Horticulture/Master Gardener programs 602-470-8086 Ext. 308 602-470-8092 (fax) Have a wonderful day!! ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~U of A ~ From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Aug 3 22:36:03 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:36:03 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ash tree not growing Message-ID: <3b.18494da8.289c8153@aol.com> Amy, Is it correct that you have flood irrigation? If so the trees certainly don't have a problem with lack of water. Do you live iin an area that has caliche? If so when the holes were dug was caliche encountered where the sickly tree is located? If you planted the trees yourself was the sickly tree root bound? Was construction debris encountered? Have you applied a weed killer to the grass or to weeds near the tree? Do you have an olive tree nearby that was sprayed with Olive Stop? Was the soil very severely compacted? I don't believe that Superthrive would be of any help in this case, however it doesn't cost much to try it. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From ADSHUMWAY@aol.com Sat Aug 4 00:21:40 2001 From: ADSHUMWAY@aol.com (ADSHUMWAY@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:21:40 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailing Shamel Ash Message-ID: Mr. McKusick, Thank you for your prompt reply. Yes, we do use flood irrigation. We did not plant the trees ourselves it was Moon Valley Nursery. In general it would be quite common to encounter caliche in our area of the east valley but we did build in the middle of what was farming land. Mostly alfalfa and sudan grass. I dont know if disking would break it up deep enough. I do not know if the tree was root bound or not as I did not get that close to the laborers as they planted it.(humor) There should not have been any construction debris in the area and there are no olive trees on or near our property. The soil was not severely compacted as it was recently farmland. As for weed killer, maybe 2 or 3 times have I used it in the past three years. I find pulling them out gives me greater satisfaction! So there you have it. The life of my sickly shamel ash. Would it be cruel to just have it dug up and dumped? Or is there hope? As I mentioned before the accompanied tree has really thrived and is lush and green quite nice to look at. Which only contrasts the unlushness (not a word) of the other tree. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Amy Shumway From Silvirado@aol.com Sat Aug 4 00:27:47 2001 From: Silvirado@aol.com (Silvirado@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:27:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Arid_gardener digest, Vol 1 #160 - 21 msgs Message-ID: <102.6cff47e.289c9b83@aol.com> In a message dated 7/31/2001 11:27:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, arid_gardener-request@Ag.Arizona.Edu writes: << Actually Mishelle, I also have questions regarding the classes. Adding to yours I have an additional one. Do any of the Master Gardener's work in the "industry" and if so has this info been helpful? I work in the garden department at Home Depot. We have 3 master Gardeners in my store alone. Most Nurseries do not pay very well, that is why so many MG's end up at Home Depot. A problem, if you love plants, is that profit, not plant care, is the primary focus in the 'Big Boxes'. The classes are helpful in answering questions, which are non-stop in this area of transplants trying to garden in the desert, Suzanne Years ago I worked at a local nursery as a cashier. Although I hated the cashier part I loved working with plants. I wondered if the course would (hopefully) increase my salary and (more importantly) move me out of cashier into a position where I would be working more "hands on" with plants. >> From Silvirado@aol.com Sat Aug 4 00:36:44 2001 From: Silvirado@aol.com (Silvirado@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:36:44 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Arid_gardener digest, Vol 1 #160 - 21 msgs Message-ID: I just received some Ixora,( Ixora coccinea 'Maui Red' ) and can find next to nothing on it's care and behavior. Is anyone growing it in the Phoenix area? Any recommendations? Suzanne Silvir From TheCat1321@aol.com Sat Aug 4 03:40:20 2001 From: TheCat1321@aol.com (TheCat1321@aol.com) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:40:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108040340.f743eKr27970@Ag.arizona.edu> I recently moved to Henderson Nevada in a townhouse with a relatively small grass area for my dog, golden retreiver, to play. He has adjusted, but his urine is wrecking havoc with the grass. Is there anything to put on the grass or the dog to help? From starlene@uswest.net Sat Aug 4 05:41:49 2001 From: starlene@uswest.net (Starlene Stewart) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:41:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Climbing Vines Message-ID: <001e01c11ca8$29010260$fb6db5d1@pavilion> I am wondering what would be some good types of climbing vines to cover my porch (which is enclosed with chicken wire which I'd like to hide). I am looking for something that doesn't need a lot of water, will climb all by itself (without my having to constantly weave it in and out) and will be green year round. I currently have English Ivy and something else (no clue) but the English Ivy seems to need a LOT of water and I have to maintain where it grows very often. I have a soaker hose set up to water the English Ivy, but it appears that I'm still not watering appropriately and it just doesn't look very healthy. I am looking at Pinetree Seeds online (www.superseeds.com) and I was wondering if any of these would be appropriate (I live in Phoenix). 813. CANARY CREEPER-TROPAEOLUM PEREGRINUM All of the descriptions and pictures I have seen about this flowering vine still don't capture its attractive presence and charm in real life--it has a vivid personality on a trellis, gateway or fence that really grabs you. The rounded, lobed leaves are exotic, rather tropical compared to what we're used to here in Maine. It climbs, spreads and covers very well, making a lush screen or canopy. The flowers are bright canary-yellow with some tiny red splashes, made even more striking by the open "mouth" and curled, pointed tail which float below two flared, fan-like "wings." Distinctive among its relatives, the nasturtiums, this South American native will enliven any garden or enclosed yard. 30 seeds G9-18 $0.85 814. CHILEAN GLORY FLOWER- ECCREMOCARPUS SCABER A quick growing climber that makes an enchanting lacy curtain with its bipinnate leaves, tiny curling tendrils, and continual clusters of 1" yellowy-orange tubular blooms. Hummingbirds love this all summer long. Grow this close to your house so you can watch them, and follow the flowers as they form, open, and then produce the interesting pudgy seed pods. This is wonderful for screening or shading a porch. 14-60 days germ. time on these so be patient. 25 seeds 816. WHITE MOONFLOWER Ipomea Alba. Vines are exceptionally vigorous growing to a length of twenty feet. Large, fragrant, white flowers open only in the evening. This variety is also called Moon Vine. These are very large seeds, so packets only contain 12. Or would it be a better idea to just buy several bushes and line the porch area? In that case, what types of bush do you recommend that grow quickly (tall), needs little watering and stays green year round? Oh, and one more factor. My porch faces the north and so the area where I wish to plant is shady most of the year from about 2-3 feet from the porch going out into the yard. Thanks in advance. Starlene From umiller@azdps.com Sat Aug 4 12:18:27 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 05:18:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Climbing Vines In-Reply-To: <001e01c11ca8$29010260$fb6db5d1@pavilion> Message-ID: Hi - I would suggest cat's claw which grows well in Phoenix, climbs by itself, grows fast and has flowers. You can buy this plant in most garden places and home stores. I am not familiar with the vines you listed. For previous discussions about vines at this site, you can go to http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/ and type in the word vine and click on the Search button. You can also use the word vines (or any other word that you may be interested in). You may find some other suggestions there. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of Starlene Stewart Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:42 PM To: Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Climbing Vines I am wondering what would be some good types of climbing vines to cover my porch (which is enclosed with chicken wire which I'd like to hide). I am looking for something that doesn't need a lot of water, will climb all by itself (without my having to constantly weave it in and out) and will be green year round. I currently have English Ivy and something else (no clue) but the English Ivy seems to need a LOT of water and I have to maintain where it grows very often. I have a soaker hose set up to water the English Ivy, but it appears that I'm still not watering appropriately and it just doesn't look very healthy. I am looking at Pinetree Seeds online (www.superseeds.com) and I was wondering if any of these would be appropriate (I live in Phoenix). 813. CANARY CREEPER-TROPAEOLUM PEREGRINUM All of the descriptions and pictures I have seen about this flowering vine still don't capture its attractive presence and charm in real life--it has a vivid personality on a trellis, gateway or fence that really grabs you. The rounded, lobed leaves are exotic, rather tropical compared to what we're used to here in Maine. It climbs, spreads and covers very well, making a lush screen or canopy. The flowers are bright canary-yellow with some tiny red splashes, made even more striking by the open "mouth" and curled, pointed tail which float below two flared, fan-like "wings." Distinctive among its relatives, the nasturtiums, this South American native will enliven any garden or enclosed yard. 30 seeds G9-18 $0.85 814. CHILEAN GLORY FLOWER- ECCREMOCARPUS SCABER A quick growing climber that makes an enchanting lacy curtain with its bipinnate leaves, tiny curling tendrils, and continual clusters of 1" yellowy-orange tubular blooms. Hummingbirds love this all summer long. Grow this close to your house so you can watch them, and follow the flowers as they form, open, and then produce the interesting pudgy seed pods. This is wonderful for screening or shading a porch. 14-60 days germ. time on these so be patient. 25 seeds 816. WHITE MOONFLOWER Ipomea Alba. Vines are exceptionally vigorous growing to a length of twenty feet. Large, fragrant, white flowers open only in the evening. This variety is also called Moon Vine. These are very large seeds, so packets only contain 12. Or would it be a better idea to just buy several bushes and line the porch area? In that case, what types of bush do you recommend that grow quickly (tall), needs little watering and stays green year round? Oh, and one more factor. My porch faces the north and so the area where I wish to plant is shady most of the year from about 2-3 feet from the porch going out into the yard. Thanks in advance. Starlene _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From millero@worldnet.att.net Sat Aug 4 13:37:38 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:37:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Climbing Vines References: <001e01c11ca8$29010260$fb6db5d1@pavilion> Message-ID: <001301c11cea$a381c3c0$9451530c@j0r9501> You might check the winter hardiness of the vines you researched. I believe Canary Creeper is frost tender so it may freeze out when we have another cold winter - it only grows to about 6 feet. Morning glories are classified as prohibited noxious weeds in Arizona and seed companies can not ship seeds into AZ so you may have some difficulty finding seeds of Ipomoea alba - it would probably work for you if you can get the seed but may need more sun than it gets on a northern exposure to bloom well. Most flowering vines need quite a bit of sun and most are deciduous. Your English ivy should grow well on a north wall. Algerian ivy is more vigorous. The vines we usually see on walls are cat claw, creeping fig and coral vine but I am certain there are others. Cat claw has yellow trumpet flowers when planted in full sun but will bloom less with a northern exposure. Creeping fig (Ficus pumila) and Algerian ivy are vigorous growers - both need to be cut back annually to prevent damage to the roof and eaves - the vines will find and grow through any cracks. Coral Vine (Queen's wreath) is semi deciduous but might also work for you. There are many low water use shrubs that grow to 6 feet tall and as wide that you could use if you had the space. Olin Miller From: "Starlene Stewart" > I am wondering what would be some good types of climbing vines to > cover my porch (which is enclosed with chicken wire which I'd > like to hide). > I am looking for something that doesn't need a lot of water, will > climb all by itself (without my having to constantly weave it in > and out) and will be green year round. >> I currently have English Ivy and something else (no clue) but the > English Ivy seems to need a LOT of water and I have to maintain > where it grows very often. I have a soaker hose set up to water > the English Ivy, but it appears that I'm still not watering > appropriately and it just doesn't look very healthy. > I am looking at Pinetree Seeds online (www.superseeds.com) and I > was wondering if any of these would be appropriate (I live in > Phoenix). > 813. CANARY CREEPER-TROPAEOLUM PEREGRINUM > All of the descriptions and pictures I have seen about this > flowering vine still don't capture its attractive presence and > charm in real life--it has a vivid personality on a trellis, > gateway or fence that really grabs you. The rounded, lobed leaves > are exotic, rather tropical compared to what we're used to here > in Maine. It climbs, spreads and covers very well, making a lush > screen or canopy. The flowers are bright canary-yellow with some > tiny red splashes, made even more striking by the open "mouth" > and curled, pointed tail which float below two flared, fan-like > "wings." Distinctive among its relatives, the nasturtiums, this > South American native will enliven any garden or enclosed yard. > 30 seeds G9-18 $0.85 > 814. CHILEAN GLORY FLOWER- ECCREMOCARPUS SCABER > A quick growing climber that makes an enchanting lacy curtain > with its bipinnate leaves, tiny curling tendrils, and continual > clusters of 1" yellowy-orange tubular blooms. Hummingbirds love > this all summer long. Grow this close to your house so you can > watch them, and follow the flowers as they form, open, and then > produce the interesting pudgy seed pods. This is wonderful for > screening or shading a porch. 14-60 days germ. time on these so > be patient. 25 seeds > 816. WHITE MOONFLOWER > Ipomea Alba. Vines are exceptionally vigorous growing to a length > of twenty feet. Large, fragrant, white flowers open only in the > evening. This variety is also called Moon Vine. These are very > large seeds, so packets only contain 12. > Or would it be a better idea to just buy several bushes and line > the porch area? > In that case, what types of bush do you recommend that grow > quickly (tall), needs little watering and stays green year round? > Oh, and one more factor. My porch faces the north and so the > area where I wish to plant is shady most of the year from about > 2-3 feet from the porch going out into the yard. From KASKO8@aol.com Sat Aug 4 19:50:12 2001 From: KASKO8@aol.com (KASKO8@aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:50:12 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] address change Message-ID: <6d.17d68739.289dabf4@aol.com> --part1_6d.17d68739.289dabf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please change my email address: old address: jkasko@gateway.net new address: kasko8@aol.com My password is tuwimo Please let me know if I need to do this another way, etc. Thanks, joanne kasko --part1_6d.17d68739.289dabf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please change my email address:
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joanne kasko --part1_6d.17d68739.289dabf4_boundary-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Sat Aug 4 19:58:45 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 12:58:45 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lizards References: <20010803170702.93038.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B6C53F5.B9862235@qwest.net> Thanks! I learn something new all the time. They are indeed as you've described, very tiny too. Linda Judy Braden wrote: > The ones you see at night are probably geckos. They > feed on night bugs. They are very pale little guys and > are very good guys to have around. > > --- Linda Guy wrote: > > I don't see my lizards very often either, unless I'm > > out early morning or after dusk. I have some growing > > in my succulent collection on the front patio and > > see them every time I water and they scurry from the > > pots. The ones I see at night look like albinos, and > > I assume they are hidden from the > > sun during the daytime. I even have a few living in > > the house which I eventually catch and move outside > > when they get big enough for the dog to notice them. > > > > Linda Guy, MG > > > > jennaz31@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Thank you for the responses to my cricket problem. > > The answer seems to be lizards. I did some > > research, looking at past questions in this sight to > > find topics on lizards and I understand how to > > create a habitat for them, but I don't have lizards. > > I've only seen one and that was a year ago. > > > This may sound dumb, but do I buy them at the > > store, then release them? > > > (I must be getting into this gardening thing, a > > year ago I never would have dreamed of entertaining > > the thought of buying lizards or any other creature > > for that matter!) > > > Thanks for your response > > > > > > Jenn > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From jnjpein@prodigy.net Sun Aug 5 00:52:19 2001 From: jnjpein@prodigy.net (jnjpein@prodigy.net) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:52:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108050052.f750qJr17587@Ag.arizona.edu> I live in downtown phoenix. I have an established lawn and I would like to have a person look at my lawn, tell me what kind of grasses I have and how to care for the lawn throughout the year, i.e. when to fertilize, how much watering, overseeding, etc. I am prepared to pay for this advice. Thank you From madasmith@aol.com Sun Aug 5 01:25:07 2001 From: madasmith@aol.com (madasmith@aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:25:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108050125.f751P7r19383@Ag.arizona.edu> I have ants all over my melons plants. Everything I looked at said not yo use around food products. What brand of ant killer is safe for my vegetable garden? From ainaelga@home.com Sun Aug 5 01:39:21 2001 From: ainaelga@home.com (ainaelga@home.com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:39:21 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108050139.f751dLr20123@Ag.arizona.edu> Please advise if this is a good time to help the roses? Mine are sad in this extreme heat.....leaves have dropped, plagued by some sort of a white-webby-cocoony thing here and there....no flowers of course. Somewhere I heard that now is an ok time to prune and feed, I think personally, wait till later....Please advise if there is a rose care schedule for the Phoenix area available to me on the web. Thanks for all your time.. aina From gizmoaz@home.com Sun Aug 5 02:14:15 2001 From: gizmoaz@home.com (GizmoAZ) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 19:14:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Roses in Summer, correction to last message... References: <200108050139.f751dLr20123@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B6CABF7.33E1E13E@home.com> Sorry, in my last message I said I do not purne till July, I meant January. There are excellent rose instructions at the following website: http://www.roses4az-mevrs.org/nss-folder/twelvemonthsofrosecare/ You get instructions for each of the 12 months of the year. I suspect that your white weby stuff is spidermites. You need to start spraying the undersides of your leaves with strong bursts of water 2 or 3 times a week to bring this under control. Soon it will be cooling off, and your roses will look beautiful again, and can provide beautiful blooms all the way through Christmas. You should *NOT* do any pruning until it cools off. I do not prune again until January. You want all that foilage, however little it may be to help shade your canes, and prevent sunburn, until it cools off. Good Luck!!! ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! ainaelga@home.com wrote: > Please advise if this is a good time to help the roses? Mine are sad in this extreme heat.....leaves have dropped, plagued by some sort of a white-webby-cocoony thing here and there....no flowers of course. Somewhere I heard that now is an ok time to prune and feed, I think personally, wait till later....Please advise if there is a rose care schedule for the Phoenix area available to me on the web. Thanks for all your time.. aina > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Bussefamily@AOL.Com Sun Aug 5 03:17:35 2001 From: Bussefamily@AOL.Com (Bussefamily@AOL.Com) Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:17:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108050317.f753HZr28385@Ag.arizona.edu> A neighbor's Mesquite trees hang over my Tiff lawn, and now the grass under the branches has died. I have trimmed back the branches, but the grass will not grow back. I suspect the Mesquite Leaves that dropped on the lawn have ruined the soil. Is this possible, and what can I do to recondition the soil? From southpawaz@home.com Sun Aug 5 12:19:49 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 05:19:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bermuda grass in shade References: <200108050317.f753HZr28385@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B6D39E5.360D1252@home.com> Hi, The Mesquite leaves would not cause this problem. Bermuda grass does not do well in shade. If you have taken care of the shade by pruning the tree, you will probably want to go ahead and reseed or resod the area. Bussefamily@aol.com wrote: > > A neighbor's Mesquite trees hang over my Tiff lawn, and now the grass under the branches has died. I have trimmed back the branches, but the grass will not grow back. I suspect the Mesquite Leaves that dropped on the lawn have ruined the soil. Is this possible, and what can I do to recondition the soil? > -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com From juanitat@w3az.net Sun Aug 5 13:05:34 2001 From: juanitat@w3az.net (juanitat@w3az.net) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 06:05:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108051305.f75D5Yr05063@Ag.arizona.edu> When do I prune and how do I divide Strelitzia reginea? What kind of fertilizer do I use and how often do I fertilize. I am located in zone 12. Thankyou From dickcarmi@aol.com Sun Aug 5 22:35:12 2001 From: dickcarmi@aol.com (dickcarmi@aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:35:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108052235.f75MZCr07830@Ag.arizona.edu> I have two Australian or Argentina willows. One has a lower branch that leaves dried up and I cut off the branch. The next branch still at a lower level is drying up and I will loose it. Rest of leaves and branches look okay at this time. The second willow is not having the branch problem. However, many of the tips of the leaves, all over the tree, are turning brown and brittle. They break off leaving a flat edge to the leaves rather than the pointed tip. The rest of the leaf looks okay and feels okay. My question, of course, is what is the problem. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Aug 5 23:34:47 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:34:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree leaves drying and turning brown Message-ID: --part1_c.1980172d.289f3217_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect that the tree is not getting enough water. Check out this link for info on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_c.1980172d.289f3217_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect that the tree is not getting enough water. Check out this link for
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Rod McKusick
Master Gardener and Arborist
--part1_c.1980172d.289f3217_boundary-- From whales@home.com Mon Aug 6 01:04:42 2001 From: whales@home.com (whales@home.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:04:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108060104.f7614gr18794@Ag.arizona.edu> I have black ants and grey water bugs in my organic garden and compost. Are these critters ok or is there an organic way to get rid of them? I have a problem with the ants attacking and biting while I try to work in the garden.....help From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Aug 6 02:22:52 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 19:22:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Plants for poolside landscapes References: <200108032150.f73Loor19142@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B6DFF7C.7A2FB843@qwest.net> http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Ornamentals The above link will take you to our publications page. You can view publication AZ1058 regarding plants for poolside landscapes online. Sue Bass Master Gardener TeeMcG@aol.com wrote: > What are the best plants to put around the pool to minimize leaves in the pool? > > Also, what are good xeriscape plants to plant in Phoenix, AZ that have a tropical appearence (for around the pool) > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Aug 6 02:30:09 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 19:30:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] California questions References: <72.d8e53e8.289733d6@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B6E0131.39648165@qwest.net> --------------855A83CFBB8D7C8AD255A946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be best if you contacted your local Cooperative Extension office for advice regarding your climate. We specialize in the low desert areas of Phoenix. You can find the phone number in the county listings of your phone book or go to: http://www.uckac.edu/danrcvr/coopext.htm for more information about cooperative extension services in California. Sue Bass Master Gardener Gilbert, AZ Hurleygram@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > The only trees that prosper in our area are live oaks and locust > trees. > Can i cut off the suckers of the locust and transplant them in more > useful > locations? > I live in the mountains between Banning, and Idllwild California, zip > code > 92220, elevation about 4000 feet. > Thank you, > Sincerely, > C.Hurley --------------855A83CFBB8D7C8AD255A946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be best if you contacted your local Cooperative Extension office for advice regarding your climate.  We specialize in the low desert areas of Phoenix.  You can find the phone number in the county listings of your phone book or go to: http://www.uckac.edu/danrcvr/coopext.htm
for more information about cooperative extension services in California.

Sue Bass
Master Gardener
Gilbert, AZ

Hurleygram@aol.com wrote:

Hello,
The only trees that prosper in our area are live oaks and locust trees.
Can i cut off the suckers of the locust and transplant them in more useful
locations?
I live in the mountains between Banning, and Idllwild California, zip code
92220, elevation about 4000 feet.
Thank you,
Sincerely,
C.Hurley
--------------855A83CFBB8D7C8AD255A946-- From ADSHUMWAY@aol.com Mon Aug 6 03:58:41 2001 From: ADSHUMWAY@aol.com (ADSHUMWAY@aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:58:41 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailing Shamel Ash Message-ID: <12b.2826d0f.289f6ff1@aol.com> Rod, Approximately how far down should I dig and what exactly will the roots look like? I' ve dug down about 8 inches and come across some thin roots but cannot idenify their nature. We have bermuda grass and I know those roots are pretty hardy. If indeed the root ball does appear to be bound what is the remedy? Is it to late to try and free them? Would we need to aerate the ground around the tree to a certain depth? Okay, different story now. My laborer (husband) dug down a bit further to approx. 18-24 inches. What we found is rather compacted dirt and few, thin roots. About 1/4 tapering to 1/8 of an inch in diameter. The hole was about 1 foot wide and within that area there were maybe a half a dozen of these little roots. Also the tree does have sporadic new growth on it. Hardly anything to sneeze at, but it is there. Can we save this pitiful creature? We're willing to try. Thanks again for all your help. Amy From cofine@yahoo.com Mon Aug 6 15:08:08 2001 From: cofine@yahoo.com (cofine@yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:08:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108061508.f76F88r28347@Ag.arizona.edu> need information about hydroponic tomatoes, market, broker, dealers, thanks alot From sbarvian@prodigy.net Mon Aug 6 15:40:04 2001 From: sbarvian@prodigy.net (sbarvian@prodigy.net) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:40:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108061540.f76Fe4r03568@Ag.arizona.edu> An Australian Willow tree in my yard has died suddenly. The tree was planted from a 24" box about 4 1/2 years ago and had been doing fine. Another similar tree about 15 feet away is also doing fine. Both trees were getting water on drip every 7-10 days. I see no evidence of leaf damage, and no "oozing" anywhere. There is a spot on the main trunk where the bark is peeling away but I don't know if that's anything. I bought these trees because the standard desert landscaping books do not mention any susceptibility to common diseases or root rot, etc. What else should I look for to determine why the tree died? Can I plant a similar tree in the same spot? Should I treat the soil with anything? Thanks for your help. From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Mon Aug 6 16:03:07 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:03:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [Arid_gardener) hydroponic tomatoes References: <200108061508.f76F88r28347@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <003301c11e91$4bb30840$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Go to WWW.Google.Com and do a search on "hydroponic tomatoes". This will give you the informnation you are looking for. Scott Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > need information about hydroponic tomatoes, market, broker, dealers, > thanks alot > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From pattiphnx@qwest.net Mon Aug 6 17:07:34 2001 From: pattiphnx@qwest.net (pattiphnx@qwest.net) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108061707.f76H7Yr20839@Ag.arizona.edu> I need help in identifying a weed. It is usually in the lawn and has small round green leaves with a purple stem. Stems radiate out from the base. It does not pull out easily (in most cases), and often has a milky substance when broken. Broad leaf weed killers have no effect on it. If anyone knows what it is, I'd also like to know what I can do to control it. From ADSHUMWAY@aol.com Mon Aug 6 17:24:54 2001 From: ADSHUMWAY@aol.com (ADSHUMWAY@aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:24:54 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailing Ash(Duplicate) Message-ID: Rod, Did you recieve a detailed email on our root digging expedition that I thought I emailed over Sunday(5th) eve? This computer is a new addition and I' ve got a bit to figure out. I dont find the letter in my "sent mail" file so I'm not sure if it was successful or not. Please let me know. Thanks again, Amy From hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org Mon Aug 6 18:09:24 2001 From: hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org (hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:09:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pecan Tree Message-ID: <61377F019B55D311A3E60008C7339B7D56BEC8@MAILSERVER> In Lakeport California Valley what kind of Pecan Tree and where can I find some to purchase? Could you send some literature about Pecan Tree Care? Heidi Bertero, 4430 Sunrise Court, Davis California, 95616 FamiliesFirst, Inc. Heidi Bertero 530-297-3124 Government Relations hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Aug 6 21:53:22 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 21:53:22 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [Arid_gardener) Weed in lawn Message-ID: The plant you are describing might be spotted spurge. It is an annual with prostrate stems that form a circular mat from a single taproot. It has a milky sap and a red spot on the upper center of the leaflet. Since this is an annual, an application of a pre-emergent may control it next year. Others on this list will have better contol information if the plant you have is spotted spurge - check for the red spot and taproot. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: pattiphnx@qwest.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:34 -0700 (MST) > >I need help in identifying a weed. It is usually in the lawn and has small >round green leaves with a purple stem. Stems radiate out from the base. >It does not pull out easily (in most cases), and often has a milky >substance when broken. Broad leaf weed killers have no effect on it. If >anyone knows what it is, I'd also like to know what I can do to control it. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Aug 6 22:28:18 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:28:18 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Australian Willow died Message-ID: --part1_c4.183672e2.28a07402_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much of the soil in the Arizona low desert is infected with Texas Root Rot and the only trees that are immune are palms and bamboo. Many of the desert adapted trees are resistant, but can still become a host to the fungus. Two symptoms that point to Texas Root Rot are rapid death of a tree( with in a week or two ) and leaves that cling to the tree after they turn brown. To positively ID TRR take a root sample to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab exam. The root sample should be 3/8 to 1/2 inch by about 8 inches as fresh as possible, do not wash. If it is found that the tree was killed by TRR the planting spot should be treated with a chemical called Vapam and then the soil treated with steer manure, amonium sulfate and sulfur. A bulletin is available at the Cooperative Extension about Texas Root Rot and subsequent treatments. Your irrigation interval sounds ok provided you apply enough water to penetrate 3 feet deep each time you irrigate. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_c4.183672e2.28a07402_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much of the soil in the Arizona low desert is infected with Texas Root Rot
and the only trees that are immune are palms and bamboo. Many of the desert
adapted trees are resistant, but can still become a host to the fungus. Two
symptoms that point to Texas Root Rot are rapid death of a tree( with in a
week or two ) and leaves that cling to the tree after they turn brown. To
positively ID TRR take a root sample to Maricopa County Cooperative
Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab exam. The root sample
should be 3/8 to 1/2 inch by about 8 inches as fresh as possible, do not
wash. If it is found that the tree was killed by TRR the planting spot should
be treated with a chemical called Vapam and then the soil treated with steer
manure, amonium sulfate and sulfur. A bulletin is available at the
Cooperative Extension about Texas Root Rot and subsequent treatments.

Your irrigation interval sounds ok provided you apply enough water to
penetrate 3 feet deep each time you irrigate.

Good luck

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener and Arborist


--part1_c4.183672e2.28a07402_boundary-- From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Aug 6 23:51:26 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:51:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: trees References: <59.e311e26.28a07976@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B6F2D7E.D5A02700@qwest.net> Why not visit the following link http://www.isa-arbor.com/arborists/arbsearch.html' to locate a certified arborist. A certified Arborist is specially trained in all aspects of tree care. At the top of this link, it is suggested that you read the section entitled, "Why Hire A Certified Arborist?". Then you can locate one near you by zip code. Sue Bass Master Gardener R2BESHON@aol.com wrote: > i have a variety of trees in my yard, i.e. mesquite, sweet acacia, palo brea, > and > blue palo verde. finding a qualified tree trimmer has been a bad experience. > they > are good to start and then you find they trim less and less off for the same > amount > of money. this summer i have lost one hugh blue palo verde and had four > mesquites > go down due to the winds. i need someone that is reliable and trustworthy. > is this > asking too much. please do you know of anyone. appreciate your assistance. From sbarvian@prodigy.net Tue Aug 7 00:31:09 2001 From: sbarvian@prodigy.net (Scott Barvian) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:31:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Australian Willow died References: Message-ID: <001b01c11ed8$423abf00$6ce4ffd1@barvian> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C11E9D.94E021E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Two symptoms that point to Texas Root Rot are rapid death of a tree( = with in a=20 week or two ) and leaves that cling to the tree after they turn brown. " Yes, both of these things happened to my tree. "To positively ID TRR take a root sample to Maricopa County Cooperative=20 Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab exam." I think I'll do that. Thanks for the pointers. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C11E9D.94E021E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Two symptoms that point to = Texas Root Rot=20 are rapid death of a tree( with in a
week or two ) and leaves that = cling to=20 the tree after they turn brown. "
 
Yes, both of these things = happened to my=20 tree.
 
"To positively ID TRR take a = root sample to=20 Maricopa County Cooperative
Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix = 85040 for a=20 lab exam."
 
I think I'll do that.  = Thanks for the=20 pointers.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C11E9D.94E021E0-- From ssheldon@superiorcourt.maricopa.gov Tue Aug 7 22:23:22 2001 From: ssheldon@superiorcourt.maricopa.gov (ssheldon@superiorcourt.maricopa.gov) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:23:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108072223.f77MNMr17931@Ag.arizona.edu> Is there anything out there right now that has been found to be an effective treatment for pearl scale? Either alone or in conjunction with other things? Thanks. sds From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Aug 7 22:38:10 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:38:10 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: lemon tree Message-ID: --part1_d3.18c24a91.28a1c7d2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, The most important thing that you can do for citrus if you live in the low desert is to make sure that they are watered and fertilized properly. Start out by checking out this link which will explain in detail hoow to water citrus properly: www.ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151 The next thing you should do is to get the bulletin titlled Citrus Care in the Home Yard from Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for $1.00 Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_d3.18c24a91.28a1c7d2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob,
The most important thing that you can do for citrus if you live in the low
desert is to make sure that they are watered and fertilized properly. Start
out by checking out this link which will explain in detail hoow to water
citrus properly:  www.ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151
The next thing you should do is to get the bulletin titlled Citrus Care in
the Home Yard from Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway,
Phoenix 85040
for $1.00

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener --part1_d3.18c24a91.28a1c7d2_boundary-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Aug 7 23:13:37 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:13:37 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: question for RodMcQ Message-ID: <21.f5037b6.28a1d021@aol.com> --part1_21.f5037b6.28a1d021_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are innumerable different scales that are found on horticultural plants and treatments will differ. If you live in the Phoenix area I would suggest that you take the insect to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 to find out which scale you have. When that is determined they will probably be able to help you in recommending a treatment. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_21.f5037b6.28a1d021_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There  are innumerable different scales that are found on horticultural
plants and treatments will differ. If you live in the Phoenix area I would
suggest that you take the insect to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension,
4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 to find out which scale you have. When that
is determined they will probably be able to help you in recommending a
treatment.

Good luck

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener --part1_21.f5037b6.28a1d021_boundary-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Aug 7 23:58:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:58:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: mexican bird of paradise] Message-ID: <3B7080BC.262192F2@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D2C97C39CD191D989BA5BE48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D2C97C39CD191D989BA5BE48 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: lindaguy@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 29270 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2001 04:41:36 -0000 Received: from mail2.uswest.net (63.226.138.2) by phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 04:41:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 34071 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2001 04:41:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mail2.uswest.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 04:41:32 -0000 Received: from My4thtee@cs.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id z.7b.18ad91c2 (4592); Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:41:25 EDT Message-ID: <7b.18ad91c2.28a0cb75@cs.com> From: My4thtee@cs.com To: lindaguy@qwest.net Cc: My4thtee@cs.com Subject: mexican bird of paradise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7b.18ad91c2.28a0cb75_boundary" X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 6.0 for Windows US sub 10501 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_7b.18ad91c2.28a0cb75_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed a brief discussion where there was some question rather the "mexican" was the subject of the question. Anyway, I bought one and it was healthy when arriving home in Sun City AZ; the stalk was quite thick and healthy, seemingly too large for the delicate stems growing from it. I left it in the nursery can for a few weeks and the top turned brown before I could plant it. Question: Is the whole plant dead? Or can I trust the size of the stalk to renew growth when I plant it? Professional Landscapers in Scottsdale are very generous with this plant in tract homes and Kierland Golf Course. It seems to need very little water and care. Thank You for any information. I really like the color of this shrub. --part1_7b.18ad91c2.28a0cb75_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed a brief discussion where there was some question rather the
"mexican"  was the subject of the question.  Anyway, I bought one and it was
healthy when arriving home in Sun City AZ; the stalk was quite thick and
healthy, seemingly too large for the delicate stems growing from it.  I left
it in the nursery can for a few weeks and the top turned brown before I could
plant it.  Question:  Is the whole plant dead? Or can I trust the size of the
stalk to renew growth when I plant it?  
Professional Landscapers in Scottsdale are very generous with this plant in
tract homes and Kierland Golf Course.  It seems to need very little water and
care.
Thank You for any information.  I really like the color of this shrub.
--part1_7b.18ad91c2.28a0cb75_boundary-- --------------D2C97C39CD191D989BA5BE48-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Aug 8 00:58:33 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Star Jasmine References: <000e01c11a23$63479e20$ed3111d0@computer> Message-ID: <3B708EB9.61E29799@qwest.net> --------------E84033C98032D96784D8B1CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It may prefer north and eastern exposures in the low desert of Phoenix http://azcentral.plantadviser.com/plants/tracjasm.htm but you should note that it is damaged at 20 degrees. I have read in more than one website that at your latitude, it is probably grown as a houseplant. http://www.plantideas.com/in/in44.html Any common search engine will turn up a number of sources for the plant. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/chalkhillclematis/vitvenvialco.html Good luck! Linda Guy, MG Amy and Shane wrote: > Hi, I ran accross a message written by you on a message board > concerning the vine "star jasmine" I would love to order some of this > beautiful vine, and it sounds like you know alot about it. Could you > tell me if it is winter hardy to zone 6? I live in Maryland. Thanks > alot. --------------E84033C98032D96784D8B1CC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It may prefer north and eastern exposures in the low desert of Phoenix  http://azcentral.plantadviser.com/plants/tracjasm.htm
but you should note that it is damaged at 20 degrees.

I have read in more than one website that at your latitude, it is probably grown as a houseplant.  http://www.plantideas.com/in/in44.html

Any common search engine will turn up a number of sources for the plant.
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/chalkhillclematis/vitvenvialco.html

Good luck!
Linda Guy, MG

Amy and Shane wrote:

Hi, I ran accross a message written by you on a message board concerning the vine "star jasmine" I would love to order some of this beautiful vine, and it sounds like you know alot about it. Could you tell me if it is winter hardy to zone 6? I live in Maryland. Thanks alot.
--------------E84033C98032D96784D8B1CC-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Aug 8 00:53:08 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:53:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ixora References: Message-ID: <3B708D74.95B80D0D@qwest.net> This is what I found using a common search engine. Evidently it's a common blooming plant of Panama, although another source lists it as a native of Asia. http://www.hortpix.com/pc2328.htm hhttp://davesgarden.com/plants/genus/Ixora/ http://www.odedodea.edu/sites/balboa/ixora.html http://www.klahanie.ca/ixora.htm http://www.floridaplants.com/horticulture/ixora.htm http://www.floridagardener.com/pom/ixora.htm Linda Guy, MG Silvirado@aol.com wrote: > I just received some Ixora,( Ixora coccinea 'Maui Red' ) and can find next > to nothing on it's care and behavior. Is anyone growing it in the Phoenix > area? Any recommendations? > > Suzanne Silvir > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rmoy@dancris.com Wed Aug 8 17:06:31 2001 From: rmoy@dancris.com (rmoy@dancris.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:06:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108081706.f78H6Ur10623@Ag.arizona.edu> I cannot get a citrus tree to grow. I buy the best, Monrovia, and plant them in large containers on my patio. They start off super, then all the leaves fall off. Are they dead? Will the leaves come back in the fall? Should I just buy grapefruit and lemons at the grocery store? Thank you for any words of wisdom!!!!! From ValWatkins1@Home.com Wed Aug 8 18:04:20 2001 From: ValWatkins1@Home.com (ValWatkins1@Home.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:04:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108081804.f78I4Kr20560@Ag.arizona.edu> Just how far should mesquite trees be cut back? I also have a split on a branch,should I spray the affected branch with pruning spray? The branch is 13inches in diameter. From ValWatkins1@Home.com Wed Aug 8 18:05:34 2001 From: ValWatkins1@Home.com (ValWatkins1@Home.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:05:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108081805.f78I5Yr20726@Ag.arizona.edu> Just how far should mesquite trees be cut back? I also have a split on a branch,should I spray the affected branch with pruning spray? The branch is 13inches in diameter. Valerie J. Watkins From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Aug 8 21:58:35 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:58:35 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite with a broken branch Message-ID: <6b.183eb8c1.28a3100b@aol.com> --part1_6b.183eb8c1.28a3100b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the branch is located where it would become a hazzard if it broke off it should be removed right away. The crack in the tree will never heal so removing the branch could possibly be a way of saving the tree.The use of a pruning sealer is no longer recommended, it simply provides a cover for bacteria. It sounds as if the tree may be too large to be pruned without special equuipment. I suggest that you call a Certified Arborist. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_6b.183eb8c1.28a3100b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the branch is located where it would become a hazzard if it broke off it
should be removed right away. The crack in the tree will never heal so
removing the branch could possibly be a way of saving the tree.The use of a
pruning sealer is no longer recommended, it simply provides a cover for
bacteria. It sounds as if the tree may be too large to be pruned without
special equuipment. I suggest that you call a Certified Arborist.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_6b.183eb8c1.28a3100b_boundary-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Aug 8 22:09:29 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:09:29 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus leaves falling off Message-ID: <5b.19dd1843.28a31299@aol.com> --part1_5b.19dd1843.28a31299_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When citrus leaves fall off it usually is due to some type of stress, and most often that stress is caused by improper irrigation. I suggest that you give your tree more water. Check out this link for info on irrigating citrus: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151.pdf Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_5b.19dd1843.28a31299_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When citrus leaves fall off it usually is due to some type of stress, and
most often that stress is caused by improper irrigation. I suggest that you
give your tree more water. Check out this link for info on irrigating citrus:
http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151.pdf

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener --part1_5b.19dd1843.28a31299_boundary-- From oatnut@home.com Wed Aug 8 23:33:55 2001 From: oatnut@home.com (oatnut@home.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:33:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108082333.f78NXtr17737@Ag.arizona.edu> I have 2 banana yuccas, 1 in a pot, 1 in the ground. They both are overgrown. Is it possible to cut off a branch and transplant it? From umiller@azdps.com Wed Aug 8 23:29:54 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:29:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Potted Citrus Dying In-Reply-To: <200108081706.f78H6Ur10623@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: Hi - I just HAD to respond to you when I saw your question because of your grocery store comment. It made me feel so bad for you. As Rod mentions, the problem may be your watering techniques. Here is some text from my citrus book. It specifically addresses container citrus plants: Plants grown in containers require more frequent watering than those grown in the ground. Dark-colored containers will dry out faster than light-colored ones and prous pots make of wood or clay will dry out fatster than the nonporous plastic. Apply enough water so that the entire rootball becomes wet. This may take several passes with the hose. Make sure the water is not just running down the space between the rootball and the container, a common occurrence if the plant has gone long without water. In areas with salty water, such as the Southwest, be sure to leach the soil well by adding enough water so that 10 to 20 percent of the wate rapplied drains from the bottom of the container. You can get a good idea as to whether a plants needs water by gently tipping its container. If it feels light, the plant needs water; if it feels heavy the plant can probably go a while longer. I hope this helps so that you don't have to go to the grocery store. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of rmoy@dancris.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:07 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I cannot get a citrus tree to grow. I buy the best, Monrovia, and plant them in large containers on my patio. They start off super, then all the leaves fall off. Are they dead? Will the leaves come back in the fall? Should I just buy grapefruit and lemons at the grocery store? Thank you for any words of wisdom!!!!! _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Tanveerj5721@aol.com Thu Aug 9 01:07:23 2001 From: Tanveerj5721@aol.com (Tanveerj5721@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:07:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108090107.f7917Nr04281@Ag.arizona.edu> I have planted catsclaw in my backyard which has gone to the tile roof. My neighbor told me that the catsclaw can make the tiles loose and they will fall off. I want to know if this is true? Please e-mail the answer. Thanks From fscapellit@mindspring.com Thu Aug 9 01:42:33 2001 From: fscapellit@mindspring.com (fscapellit@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:42:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108090142.f791gXr08340@Ag.arizona.edu> Our Queen Palms have a bulge in the upper part of the trunk. What could that be. I thought all trees had uniform trunk shape. Thank you. From Birds113@aol.com Thu Aug 9 02:28:32 2001 From: Birds113@aol.com (Birds113@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:28:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108090228.f792SWr13388@Ag.arizona.edu> My Texas Umbrella tree lost 2 large limbs and the bark is torn from the South side of the tree, from the "Y" where the trunk joins the branches, to a foot from the ground. Essentially, half of the bark is gone. This occurred during a windstorm yesterday. What can I do to keep this tree alive? Thanks. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Aug 9 03:02:26 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:02:26 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree damage in storm Message-ID: <12b.2adc3ae.28a35742@aol.com> --part1_12b.2adc3ae.28a35742_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry but there isn't anything that you can do to save your tree. The tree's circulation system is in the bark and when you lose half of the bark the tree probably will not last long. I suggest replacing the tree. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_12b.2adc3ae.28a35742_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry but there isn't anything that you can do to save your tree. The tree's
circulation system is in the bark and when you lose half of the bark  the
tree probably will not last long. I suggest replacing the tree.

Good luck

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_12b.2adc3ae.28a35742_boundary-- From nicolori@webtv.net Thu Aug 9 03:44:59 2001 From: nicolori@webtv.net (nicolori@webtv.net) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 20:44:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108090344.f793ixr25872@Ag.arizona.edu> Several months ago we planted a Shamel Ash tree. The leaves are starting to turn yellow...what is it lacking? From gjhadden@msn.com Thu Aug 9 13:38:16 2001 From: gjhadden@msn.com (??? ???) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] mistletoe removal ... best season to do it? Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1209D.DED77120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We just bought a home in the desert with many Palo Verde Trees some of wh= ich have one of two mistletoe's attached... is there a "bad" time to remo= ve these parasites? An optimal time? Also is there anyone you may recomme= nd that we could pay to come out to our home to do a walk through inspect= ion of our plant life? Thank you. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1209D.DED77120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We just bought= a home in the desert with many Palo Verde Trees some of which have one o= f two mistletoe's attached... is there a "bad" time to remove these paras= ites? An optimal time? Also is there anyone you may recommend that we cou= ld pay to come out to our home to do a walk through inspection of our pla= nt life? Thank you.

------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1209D.DED77120-- From lizmiles@home.com Thu Aug 9 17:32:13 2001 From: lizmiles@home.com (Liz Miles) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:32:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] hibiscus Message-ID: <3B72C91D.E988E468@home.com> I recently bought several red hibiscus trees (about 5' tall) and planted them in large pots (with drainage) around my pool in full sun. They have lost some of their original fullness and some leaves are yellowing. They don't have the same deep green leaf color they came with. They do produce flowers. I have also noticed tiny ants on the trunks, which I also see in the river rocks around the pool. Am I watering too much or too little? Do they need something like Miracle Grow? We are having guests in 2 weeks and I would really like them to look lush by then. Thanks so much. Liz Miles From s2@auroranow.org Thu Aug 9 17:55:20 2001 From: s2@auroranow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:55:20 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] hibiscus References: <3B72C91D.E988E468@home.com> Message-ID: <3B72CE88.62285094@auroranow.org> Liz, Hibiscus do best here in the low desert out of full afternoon sun. They like regular water, but good drainage, and not too much wind. Feed them with a palm fertilizer. (not a master gardener) -- Sherryl Stalinski ARC Worldwide -- http://www.arcworldwide.com Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org Tucson office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Thu Aug 9 18:03:21 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:03:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] hibiscus References: <3B72C91D.E988E468@home.com> Message-ID: <3B72D069.2A092DDC@email.sps.mot.com> Liz, I read, and have used with great success Palm Tree fertilizer for my hibiscus. I was having the same problems you mention below when using Miracle Grow and some of the other water soluble fertilizers. You could be watering too much as well. You do not mention how often you water. If they are in pots, I would probably water every other day, maybe even every day if they are in full sun. If you can, put mulch on top to keep the roots cool and the moisture in the pot. You must soak the pots good, to flush out all the salts when you do water. Last but not least, it is white fly season. They suck the moisture out of your leaves, thus they turn yellow and fall off. Spray the undersides of your leaves on your Hibiscus every time you water, with a strong jet of water. This will help keep the white flies under control. I spray the undersides of the leaves till I don't see any white flies flying around the plant anymore. There are some great web sites out there on hibiscus. Get onto http://www.google.com and type in hibiscus as your search word, you will find lots of references on hibiscus there. I must emphasize that since I switched from miracle grow type fertilizers to palm tree food, I have seen a 100% improvement in my hibiscus. Try to get a time released fertilizer if you can so it does not burn the roots so easily. Otherwise, water, then put on the fertilizer, then water again. Good luck! ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Liz Miles wrote: > I recently bought several red hibiscus trees (about 5' tall) and planted > them in large pots (with drainage) around my pool in full sun. They have > lost some of their original fullness and some leaves are yellowing. > They don't have the same deep green leaf color they came with. They do > produce flowers. I have also noticed tiny ants on the trunks, which I > also see in the river rocks around the pool. Am I watering too much or > too little? Do they need something like Miracle Grow? We are having > guests in 2 weeks and I would really like them to look lush by then. > > Thanks so much. > > Liz Miles > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Aug 9 21:14:41 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:14:41 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Shamel Ash with yellow leaves Message-ID: --part1_e2.18d3cef6.28a45741_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The most common causes of yellow leaves on plants are either over or under watering. The following link will give you information on proper watering: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_e2.18d3cef6.28a45741_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The most common causes of yellow leaves on plants are either over or under
watering. The following link will give you information on proper watering:
http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener



--part1_e2.18d3cef6.28a45741_boundary-- From ewnowlin@home.com Thu Aug 9 23:45:07 2001 From: ewnowlin@home.com (ewnowlin@home.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:45:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108092345.f79Nj7r03513@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a section of my lot where nothing seems to grow for more than 6 months to a year. Every plant seems to get sick after this period. I was advised that you may have a soil analysis service, where one can bring a sample in for testing. Is this true and would you advise me of details and procedures and costs etc? Thank you very much. Ernie Nowlin From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:08:53 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:08:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Soil Labs References: <200108092345.f79Nj7r03513@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B732615.A6E486B2@qwest.net> A listing of labs is located in our website at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/soiltest.htm Linda Guy, MG ewnowlin@home.com wrote: > I have a section of my lot where nothing seems to grow for more than 6 months to a year. Every plant seems to get sick after this period. I was advised that you may have a soil analysis service, where one can bring a sample in for testing. Is this true and would you advise me of details and procedures and costs etc? Thank you very much. > > Ernie Nowlin > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:16:27 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: How long do black-eyed peas produce? References: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> <003001c11983$2ac2bc60$e6a10404@oemcomputer> <3B696442.4FE8A650@qwest.net> <002801c11b64$5b3ba680$97a20404@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3B7327DA.F3B12176@qwest.net> These are strong nitrogen fixers so are good to grow even in poor soil. I don't think it's a fertilizer issue, although I must confess not to having ever grown them. As I recall, you are in Tucson, and I wonder if one of the MGs in the Pima County Extension Office has any ideas for what may be going on out your way. 520/626-5161 Could you be overcoddling them [too much water, shade, etc.]? These guys are said to really take a lot of heat and still produce. The reference to sweet potatoes can be found using the index in the back of Brookbank's book. Linda Guy, MG Jonathan Kandell wrote: > No pest problems. Either virus or lack of fertilizer, perhaps? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Guy > To: Jonathan Kandell > Cc: Arid_gardener > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:31 AM > Subject: How long do black-eyed peas produce? > > > George Brookbank's book suggests that black-eyed peas can produce into > > October. Are you having pest problems perhaps? > > > > Linda Guy, MG > > > > Jonathan Kandell wrote: > > > > > My black-eyed peas, planted in March, are now dying. They've produced > two > > > batches of beans. Is this normal for Tucson? > > > > > > j > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:27:45 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Yucca plants-HELP! References: <000a01c1181e$96794520$89107ad5@computer> Message-ID: <3B732A81.223AA68D@qwest.net> --------------6D90967E929AFA919105C84A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are many yuccas, so I need to give you some general advice. Here in the desert, they are usually planted where you intend them to grow over time, not transplanting easily. Their growth is at the terminals [bud tips] so if you are proposing to cut them off at that end to fit them into your conservatory, you will likely 'end' your plant. I'm wondering if you can't reduce the stem with layering: see the plant propogation chapter of the online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/propagation/asexual.html I'm not sure this will work on yuccas. Why not call the Desert Botanical Gardens here in Phoenix during their plant hotline hours [M-F 10 - 11:30 am 480/941-1225] to see if they have any other suggestions? Good luck. Linda Guy, MG Jonathan Batt wrote: > Hi there, I have a large Yucca plant growing in my conservatory and it > needs to be cut back a bit as the leaves are right next to the roof.I > have been told that I can cut it back when the sap stops rising-but > when does this happen???Is it also correct that after cutting you > should drip candle wax on the stalk??? I look forward to your > reply. Kind regards, Jonathan Batt. --------------6D90967E929AFA919105C84A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are many yuccas, so I need to give you some general advice. Here in the desert, they are usually planted where you intend them to grow over time, not transplanting easily. Their growth is at the terminals [bud tips] so if you are proposing to cut them off at that end to fit them into your conservatory, you will likely 'end' your plant.

I'm wondering if you can't reduce the stem with layering: see the plant propogation chapter of the online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/propagation/asexual.html

I'm not sure this will work on yuccas. Why not call the Desert Botanical Gardens here in Phoenix during their plant hotline hours [M-F 10 - 11:30 am 480/941-1225] to see if they have any other suggestions? Good luck.

Linda Guy, MG

Jonathan Batt wrote:

Hi there, I have a large Yucca plant growing in my conservatory and it needs to be cut back a bit as the leaves are right next to the roof.I have been told that I can cut it back when the sap stops rising-but when does this happen???Is it also correct that after cutting you should drip candle wax on the stalk??? I look forward to your reply.  Kind regards,  Jonathan Batt.
--------------6D90967E929AFA919105C84A-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:32:25 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Date Palms in Hawaii References: <200107301904.f6UJ4jW26157@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B732B99.41616772@qwest.net> Yours is sure to be a vastly different soil condition than ours which is alkaline and contains little organic material. Your weather conditions are also apt to be quite a bit more temperate and moist. I don't grow dates, but since they seem to come from the arid desert climes of the world, I'd think that would be a major issue for you to overcome. Why not contact our counterparts at your local cooperative extension office [usually in the county government listings in the phone book]. Please also ask the question about whether this type of palm would be considered invasive or a nuisance plant if you ever get it growing well and volunteers pop up. Linda Guy, MG jlq@interpac.net wrote: > Aloha, I live in Hawaii and recently successfully germinated date palm seeds sent to me by my father from his tree in Phoenix, AZ. They grew to seedlings of 7to 8 inches, and 2 weeks ago I transplanted them into the ground. They were doing great, but now the tips of the leaves are turning yellow and then brown and seem to be dying out. Any help or info on what the problem may be? I would appreciate any input you may have, as I don't want to loose them if I can help it! If you need more info from me, please let me know. > Mahalo Nui Loa, > Joanne Quickel > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:39:06 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Growing Zone for Bougainvilleas References: <000a01c11c79$e2318040$6661fea9@computer> Message-ID: <3B732D2A.587E3908@qwest.net> They are extremely frost sensitive and do best in areas a minimal winter cold. Having said that, I noted some comments in the Sunset Western Garden Book where they even grow in some zones of the Pacific Northwest when the home gardener uses the shrubbier types that are grown as container plants, moved to protected areas in winter. "Where frosts are routine, vines should be given protected warm wall or warmest spot in garden. If vines get by first winter or two they will be big enough to take most winter damage and recover." If you ever transplant watch those roots! They are particularly fragile and do not like being jostled a bit. Recommended method is to cut off bottom of container, place in the new larger pot, slice down sides, back fill dirt, then remove the pieces of the old container. Linda Guy, MG Jim and Cathey Bishop wrote: > We bought a potted bougainvillea in late Spring and it is doing very well > hanging in direct sunlight all day. Not being gardeners we don't know if we > should bring the plant in for the winter. It is not uncommon in Oklahoma > for a day that is a balmy 55 - 60 degrees at 10AM to change to blizzard > conditions by 4PM. What are the limits for bougainvilleas? If they can > survive our seasons we would like to plant several of them. > Jim Bishop From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:41:54 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:41:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Dog Urine on Turf References: <200108040340.f743eKr27970@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B732DD2.87E5F751@qwest.net> Lots of water to dilute the urine. Both in the dog and on the lawn, though the latter was my focus! Try to train him to go in an area that isn't very visible, and try to have him go more often so that each evacuation is less in volume. If your patch is that small, just follow him with the watering can after he's done. Linda Guy, MG TheCat1321@aol.com wrote: > I recently moved to Henderson Nevada in a townhouse with a relatively small grass area for my dog, golden retreiver, to play. He has adjusted, but his urine is wrecking havoc with the grass. Is there anything to put on the grass or the dog to help? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:43:45 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:43:45 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Turf Specialists References: <200108050052.f750qJr17587@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B732E40.3D18C2E@qwest.net> Your question may have already elicited some offers from other members of this list server who are in the profession. However, as an extension of the UA we are not permitted to recommend specific people/specialists. Have you asked your neighbors about their lawn care specialists? Linda Guy, MG jnjpein@prodigy.net wrote: > I live in downtown phoenix. I have an established lawn and I would like to have a person look at my lawn, tell me what kind of grasses I have and how to care for the lawn throughout the year, i.e. when to fertilize, how much watering, overseeding, etc. I am prepared to pay for this advice. Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:49:20 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:49:20 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Strelitzia reginea References: <200108051305.f75D5Yr05063@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B732F90.4E4DF813@qwest.net> They do best when they are tightly clumped, so divide them infrequently. Most of the bloom occurs during the cooler season which is when I suppose I'd apply fertilizer. Though, in truth, I had some in a rather confined space and didn't want to encourage too much growth, so I never used fertilizer beyond the initial bed preparation. I didn't want to risk fostering foliage over bloom. I also trimmed off the dried leaves as they arose, and did not do a specific pruning task at a set time of year. Linda Guy, MG juanitat@w3az.net wrote: > When do I prune and how do I divide Strelitzia reginea? What kind of fertilizer do I use and how often do I fertilize. I am located in zone 12. > Thankyou > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 00:54:27 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 17:54:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pecan Tree References: <61377F019B55D311A3E60008C7339B7D56BEC8@MAILSERVER> Message-ID: <3B7330C3.430053F9@qwest.net> You will be better served with the advice of our counterparts at your local county cooperative extension office. In the county's listings of the phone book. Linda Guy, MG hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org wrote: > In Lakeport California Valley what kind of Pecan Tree and where can I find > some to purchase? Could you send some literature about Pecan Tree Care? > Heidi Bertero, 4430 Sunrise Court, Davis California, 95616 > > FamiliesFirst, Inc. > Heidi Bertero > 530-297-3124 > Government Relations > hbertero@familiesfirstinc.org > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From amysaroca@earthlink.net Fri Aug 10 02:07:16 2001 From: amysaroca@earthlink.net (amysaroca@earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:07:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108100207.f7A27Gr18898@Ag.arizona.edu> Why are toilet bowls used in landscapes in Arizona? From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Aug 10 02:13:35 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:13:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Yuccas References: <200108082333.f78NXtr17737@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B73434E.79EDCD4@qwest.net> I've never done so personally, but let me direct you to the asexual propogation chapter of the Master Gardener Manual for techniques for cuttings and layering. http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/propagation/asexual.html Linda Guy, MG oatnut@home.com wrote: > I have 2 banana yuccas, 1 in a pot, 1 in the ground. They both are overgrown. Is it possible to cut off a branch and transplant it? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Fri Aug 10 14:08:31 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:08:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200108100207.f7A27Gr18898@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B73EADF.319DC050@email.sps.mot.com> I've never seen one used in Landscape design myself. I must be in the wrong neighborhood...but I suspect that it is an odd twist on humor :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! amysaroca@earthlink.net wrote: > Why are toilet bowls used in landscapes in Arizona? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jonwiggins@home.com Fri Aug 10 14:30:57 2001 From: jonwiggins@home.com (jonwiggins@home.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:30:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200108101430.f7AEUvr20180@Ag.arizona.edu> Help! I have nut grass invading my new lawn. I would like to find a safe alternative that will not harm my dog. I do not use herbicides or pesticides. Currently I am using corn gluten in my granite covered areas. Thanks Also --natural-- gopher remover. Do you have any experience with safe alternatives. I have heard about wrigleys spearmint gum. :) From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Aug 10 16:48:10 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:48:10 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Queen Palm with a bulge in the trunk Message-ID: --part1_e0.18b7f1dd.28a56a4a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I susect that during the year or years that the bulge formed on the trunk of your queen palm it received an abudance of water and fertilizer which would have made it grow more than normal. Also if the fronds were left on the tree this would have accelerated the growth. Likewise if in one particular year the palm had less than normal water and or fertilizer and too many of the fronds were removed the trunk would most lkely be smaller than usual. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_e0.18b7f1dd.28a56a4a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I susect that during the year or years that the bulge formed on the trunk of
your queen palm it received an abudance of water and fertilizer which would
have made it grow more than normal. Also if the fronds were left on the tree
this would have accelerated the growth. Likewise if in one particular year
the palm had less than normal water and or fertilizer and  too many of the
fronds were removed the trunk would most lkely be smaller than usual.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener --part1_e0.18b7f1dd.28a56a4a_boundary-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Aug 10 16:48:12 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:48:12 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: rose problems Message-ID: --part1_e8.18eb9f8f.28a56a4c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judy, The problems that you describe with your roses are quite common in summer for roses grown in the low desert. The photos that you sent didn't come through so I have to go by your description. The blackened canes and cane die back is described in the American Rose Society Consulting Rosarian Manual as a canker fungus which gains access to the rose cane when the rose is pruned and too much stem is left above the bud eye, or from any type of injury to the cane. The fungus will spread and eventually kill the whole cane. Control consists of good cultural practices, pruning correctly, avoiding injury to the canes, and fungicidal sprays such as Manzate,Maneb or Daconil. When I notice a black spot starting on a rose cane I either remove the cane or cut it off well below the spot. The browning leaves are caused by salt burn, sun and wind burn. The salt is left when the water that we apply evaporates. We can help that situation by always deep watering and at least once a month during the summer doubling the amount of water that we apply. Applications of gypsum will also help to remove the salt from the root zone. Locating the roses where there is PM shade and wind protection is a definite help. That not being possible shade screen over the roses is very helpful. A 3 to 4 inch mulch and washing down the rose bushes at least once a week during the hot weather is also beneficial. Another cause of leaf burn is applying too much fertilizer during the hot weather, fertilizer should be applied at half rate during the summer. If you live in Maricopa county or whereever you live and you love roses I would suggest that you investigate joining one of the 5 rose societies located in the valley or close to your home. Each one of the societies has at least one Consulting Rosarian and they are pledged to help people grow better roses. If you live in the East Valley why not come to the next meeting of the Mesa East Valley Rose Society which meets the 2nd thursday of each month at 7:00 PM at Mesa Community College in the Kiva room of the Student Center. Enjoy good fellowship and the latest in caring for roses and while you are there enjoy the 3500 Roses in the Mesa Community College Rose Garden which our society planted and supervises its care. If you live in another part of the valley, addresses are available on our website. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian > > --part1_e8.18eb9f8f.28a56a4c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judy,
The problems that you describe with your roses are quite common in summer for
roses grown in the low desert. The photos that you sent didn't come through
so I have to go by your description. The blackened canes and cane die back is
described in the American Rose Society Consulting Rosarian Manual as a canker
fungus which gains access to the rose cane when the rose is pruned and too
much stem is left above the bud eye, or from any type of injury to the cane.
The fungus will spread and eventually kill the whole cane. Control consists
of good cultural practices, pruning correctly,  avoiding injury to the canes,
and fungicidal sprays such as Manzate,Maneb or Daconil. When I notice a black
spot starting on a rose cane I either remove the cane or cut it off well
below the spot.

The browning leaves are caused by salt burn, sun and wind burn. The salt is
left when the water that we apply evaporates. We can help that situation by
always deep watering and at least once a month during the summer doubling the
amount of water that we apply. Applications of gypsum will also help to
remove the salt from the root zone. Locating the roses where there is PM
shade and wind protection is a definite help. That not being possible shade
screen over the roses is very helpful. A 3 to 4 inch mulch and washing down
the rose bushes at least once a week during the hot weather is also
beneficial. Another cause of leaf burn is applying too much fertilizer during
the hot weather, fertilizer should be applied at half rate during the summer.

If you live in Maricopa county or whereever you live and you love roses I
would suggest that you investigate joining one of the 5 rose societies
located in the valley or close to your home. Each one of the societies has at
least one Consulting Rosarian and they are pledged to help people grow better
roses.  If you live in the East Valley why not come to the next meeting of
the Mesa East Valley Rose Society which meets the 2nd thursday of each month
at 7:00 PM at Mesa Community College in the Kiva room of the Student Center.
Enjoy good fellowship and the latest in caring for roses and while you are
there enjoy the 3500 Roses in the Mesa Community College Rose Garden which
our society planted and supervises its care.

If you live in another part of the valley, addresses are available on our
website.

Good luck

Rod McKusick
Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian







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