From millero@worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 17 05:05:53 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? References: Message-ID: <004d01c10e7e$b7806e00$d851530c@j0r9501> Tomatoes are not well adapted in Phoenix and it is pretty normal with this heat if you don't provide some kind of shade or partial shade and even irrigation. As I recall, you are in Tucson so your season should last a little longer. We have 44 plants this year of 22 different varieties. The season is pretty much over for deteminate (bush) types but we still get 2 pickings per week from the indeterminate types although the yield is decreasing and the fruit is ripening at a smaller size than 3 weeks ago. Early Girl should go for a few more weeks under 50% shade. If you go to the trouble of keeping the plants alive during the summer (using moisture and shade, it may bear again in the fall when the weather cools again but it would be easier and more productive to just set out new plants in September. Celebrity is a mid season determinate type which you need to get out in the garden by about mid February (in Phoenix) to get a decent crop - it will only bear one time. Beans don't seem to mind the heat too much if you provide enough water but you usually only get a few pickings. I plan to pull out my green beans Monday, the plants are pretty much spent. I have never been successful in growing Lima Beans. But check Geo. Brookbank's "Desert Gardening" book. He has an entire chapter on tomatoes in the book which is obviously geared to the Tucson climate. According to him, tomatoes in Tucson don't start to decline until July. Here in Phoenix, decline in June with the high heat levels is not unusual. Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Kandell" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? > My early girl tomatoes are turning brown and yellow, after generating some > nice fruit. My celebrity is still green. My other plants are ok too. Is > this normal? On a related theme, many of my plants seem to be turning dry > and brown and dying: green beans, lima beans, ... Is this the result of > underwatering? The 100+ heat? Is it normal this time of year? > > jk > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From nfivebad@att.net Sun Jul 1 01:39:40 2001 From: nfivebad@att.net (nfivebad@att.net) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:39:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are interested in starting some cat claw vines. A neighbor has clippings available. What is a good procedure? Thank You From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 01:53:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Propagating Cat's Claw Vine References: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E827D.D7BCED07@qwest.net> The following link will take you to the chapter on plant propagation in the Master Gardener Manual http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/propagation/index.html This should get you on your way to propagating your own vines. Sue Bass nfivebad@att.net wrote: > We are interested in starting some cat claw > vines. A neighbor has clippings available. > What is a good procedure? > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:17:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:17:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering Cactus and Agave References: <200106011541.f51FfVB16188@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E881D.D788B200@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding watering cactus and agave. According to Mary Irish's book, "Agaves, Yuccas, and Related Plants", in the hot deserts, water agaves every 10 days in the summer, more frequently if it is very hot. It is a poor practice to water agaves in the ground frequently with small amounts of water, so if a plant is in a basin, fill up the basin and let the water percolate slowly into the soil. In moderate climates, or in the spring and fall in the hot deserts, watering every three weeks is sufficient. Mary points out in her book that agaves signal water stress by having a wrinkled or withered appearance on the surface of the leaf. Leaves that fall or flop often indicate much more serious problems or such extreme water stress that one needs to act immediately. Wrinkling will correct with a good watering. Mary also responded to a similar question regarding the watering of cactus and agave stating that "depending on the species and the size and age of the plant it can range from a monthly soaking to almost once a week. Most do not require any winter irrigation if there is any winter rain at all if they are over 2 years in the ground." It is better not to overwater, so for the cactus a monthly soaking would probably be your best bet. But always keep an eye on your plant and watch for water stress. Hope this helps! Sue Bass Master Gardener > How often should catus plants such as agave > be watered? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:29:03 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Iris References: <200106050051.f550pWB04729@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8AEF.5B71ACF8@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding Iris. I have not grown Iris since moving to the low desert myself, but the following answer in our archives leads me to believe that you leave them in the ground unless you want to separate them. You can view the response from Dixie Humphries at: http://ag.arizona.edu/hypermail/arid_gardener/0876.html Sue Bass Master Gardener tgeddes135@aol.com wrote: > What do I do with my Iris bed now that they have finished blooming. Do I leave the bulbs in the ground or do I dig them up? > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:35:25 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig recipes References: <200106150054.f5F0soq24085@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8C6D.486B8B9F@qwest.net> You might try the following web sites for fig recipes: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/recipes/figs/figindex.html http://www.valleyfig.com/recipes.htm http://www.freep.com/fun/food/qfigrec5.htm http://www.californiafigs.com/ http://www.samcooks.com/EatFresh/Fruit/fig-recipes.htm Sue Bass aekozmiuk@hotmail.com wrote: > I will be having a lot of figs soon. I don't know how to fix them. Do you have some recipes or ideas for me. > I would appreciate any help you can give me. > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From DAnde25974@aol.com Sun Jul 1 04:00:53 2001 From: DAnde25974@aol.com (DAnde25974@aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:00:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? Daniel From maleyd@aol.com Sun Jul 1 15:48:35 2001 From: maleyd@aol.com (maleyd@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 08:48:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011548.f61FmZw21442@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 21 yr. old Modesto Ash tree growing in my flood irrigated yard which has been losing branches due to breakage. The limbs seem too heavy toward the tips causing them to bend down toward the ground. With branches hanging down, it seems like a moderare breese causes them to break. This same tree has some dead bramnches in the center which may or may not be related to the breakage problem. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan From stevebethparker@kna.to Sun Jul 1 17:35:12 2001 From: stevebethparker@kna.to (stevebethparker@kna.to) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:35:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 18:33:12 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes References: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F6CE8.3029964B@qwest.net> Aloes prefer afternoon shade and thrive in filtered shade of high canopy trees. Given that the aloe you transplanted were growing in complete shade I would suspect that their new home is quite a shock to them. As for irrigation, after transplanting, the root area of the plant needs to be kept moist but not wet until new root development becomes established. Watering every other day is probably too much. Even though the surface of the soil may appear dry, the root area is probably still moist. Check the soil moisture at rooting depth before watering to avoid over-wet soils. The best rule of thumb for irrigating desert plants is Don't over-irrigate at any time - if in doubt, don't. Most desert plants are more tolerant of too little soil moisture than too much. Sue Bass Master Gardener stevebethparker@kna.to wrote: > help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 19:09:35 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:09:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grey water in the Landscape References: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F756F.D0B0F7C4@qwest.net> You can view a publication on grey water use from the Water Resources Research Center (WRRC), College of Agriculture, University of AZ by going to the following link: http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/071rain.html Sue Bass Master Gardener DAnde25974@aol.com wrote: > Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:34:40 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:34:40 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Shamel Ash losing limbs Message-ID: <6e.c6d1aa4.2870d550@aol.com> Dan, The Shamel Ash is a very fast growing tree and because of its fast growth does not develop the strength that a slower growing tree does. It is common for this tree's branches to break and fall. When the tree is young proper pruning can minimise the amount of breakage that it has at a later date. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:51:57 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:51:57 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Mesquite dying Message-ID: <115.113112a.2870d95d@aol.com> Tim, The total vegetation killer is the culprit. You not only have killed your weeds but your tree also. If the chemical you used is a soil sterilent you may not be able to plant any thing in that area for years, again depending on the chemical that was in the total vegetation killer. If you have other trees or intend to plant others your irrigation practice leaves something to be desired. The mesquite would be much happier if deep watered once every two weeks in summer. Check out this website for proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jfmattern@worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 1 22:38:34 2001 From: jfmattern@worldnet.att.net (jfmattern@worldnet.att.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:38:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. Here is a list of what we have: cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? From annmarienewman@earthlink.net Sun Jul 1 22:45:56 2001 From: annmarienewman@earthlink.net (annmarienewman@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:45:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 00:51:34 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 17:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Irrigation schedule References: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC596.434DCE45@qwest.net> 3 minutes is definitely not long enough. All of these plants require deep watering. The following links will take you to information on proper irrigation. The first one: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/irrigation/index.html is a chapter from the Master Gardener Manual on irrigation. The second: http://www.amwua.org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm Is from the Arizona Municipal Water Users Association (AMWUA) and is a watering schedule for summer and winter irrigation. With the heat we are having, check out the watering schedule from AMWUA and make the corrections as soon as possible. Sue Bass Master Gardener jfmattern@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. > Here is a list of what we have: > cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. > Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 01:00:26 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 18:00:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Worms for composting References: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC7A9.9B693E85@qwest.net> The following site will give you information on where to purchase worms for composting: http://www.mastercomposter.com/vendor/buyworms.html Sue Bass Master Gardener annmarienewman@earthlink.net wrote: > Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From casalzer1@cs.com Mon Jul 2 14:45:36 2001 From: casalzer1@cs.com (casalzer1@cs.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:45:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021445.f62Ejaw09410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am moving to the west valley in late August and have been told this may be a bad time to plant trees. I have visited a couple of nurserys and they told me it would be no problem. Do you have any input for me? I am planning on planting ficus, plum, orange, lemon, apricot and a few others. Thank you for your assistance. Chris Salzer From ram6260@yahoo.com Mon Jul 2 16:12:37 2001 From: ram6260@yahoo.com (BOB RAMSEY) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] cats claw hurting stucco Message-ID: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for painting. Is this true and are there other choices for a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mon Jul 2 16:17:13 2001 From: kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Kathleen Peterson) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:17:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Farm and Home In-Reply-To: <3B3E898D.489FBF68@qwest.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010702091124.00ab7ec0@ag.arizona.edu> Farm and Home is no longer on (unfortunately). Channel 15 KNXV is looking to put a segment on the Sonoran Living show that deals with gardening. John Chapman (a Master Gardener) will be the host and will treat it "Bob Villa style" (from This Old House) as he interviews the experts. John has been working closely with extension to select possible topics ect. It is not 100% yet, so you might want to contact Channel 15 and let them know it is a program you would be interested in. >Is the program "Farm and Home" still on? If so what channel and what time? >I really enjoyed it and miss it. >Thank you. From mishelle@usscreen.com Mon Jul 2 18:38:38 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Hello,. I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm in the Tempe area. Thanks, Mishelle From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 2 18:53:32 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 18:53:32 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: squirrels; citrus Message-ID: >From: Mark Rosati >To: drew_linda@hotmail.com >Subject: master gardener questions >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0700 > >Master gardener questions, > >My first question is about ground squirrels. >My backyard backs up to a Phoenix Mountain Preserve (seems to be >preserved thus far). The plants in my landscape are Southwestern and >Mexican natives. The round-tailed squirrels, rock squirrels, and desert >cottontail infrequently browse my plants. The real trouble squirrels >are the Harris Antelope ground squirrels. They dig into plant roots >aggressively and nibble (and sometimes devastate) Agaves, cacti, and >several subshrubs. > > Help!!, how do I deter/repel them. > >My second question has to do with citrus tree flowering and fruiting. > >One year ago I planted a tangelo, navel orange, and grapefuit (15 gallon >container size). They appear healthy and happy (dark green and growing) >with the amount of water and fertilizer I give them, however, they >dropped almost all of their flowers and the remaining fruit dropped >after a few weeks. > > Thanks again for any info or referrals you can provide. > Mark > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Mourningdove50@aol.com Mon Jul 2 19:28:12 2001 From: Mourningdove50@aol.com (Mourningdove50@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:28:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021928.f62JSCw26220@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dear Master gardener, Several weeks ago, I lost a hibiscus to, what I thought was improper amounts of water.The plant yellowed, then died completely, even after I put a higher gph emitter on it. Two days ago, I noticed the one about 4 ft. away from that one exhibiting the same symtoms, including the same tip burning of the leaves in several areas of the plant, along with small dead flower buds. I suspected that the herbicide that my gardener used might be the culprit. I examined all of the plants in my front yard, which is the only area that he maintains for me,and noticed the same sort of damage on my cape honeysuckle. And on my queen palm, the new growth is yellow and looks very weak . I have flooded the area with water under each of these plants in the hope that I might save them, There was no hope for the first hibiscus because, I think I noticed the damage too late. Do you think the herbicide he uses on the weeds may have infiltrated the soil? Also it looks like a drift might have occured because some of the leaves are severely damaged, and some are just yellowing. I would appreciate any help you can give me regarding this, my hibiscus is 12 years old, and I am devistated. I plan to ask him if I may read the container of the product he is using.Also, I would like to know if there is a place that I can send samples of the plants to be tested for herbicide exposure. Sincerly yours, Cahterine G Bauerlein From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 2 21:51:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:51:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Trees in August Message-ID: <6b.1693c27a.287246c4@aol.com> Chris, Trees can be planted in August in the low desert, the landscapers do it all the time. Personally I would wait a month or two when the temperatures are less severe and the risk to the trees is is greatly reduced. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From rbcakane@aol.com Tue Jul 3 01:47:15 2001 From: rbcakane@aol.com (rbcakane@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107030147.f631lFw23335@Ag.Arizona.Edu> we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... From Crisser8372@aol.com Tue Jul 3 15:27:33 2001 From: Crisser8372@aol.com (Crisser8372@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris From mflowers@home.com Tue Jul 3 15:28:27 2001 From: mflowers@home.com (mflowers@home.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031528.f63FSRI12804@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank you,Mark Flowers From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Tue Jul 3 15:48:58 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B41E96A.C9713184@email.sps.mot.com> Hi Chris, I think one of the best resources for plants in the west is the Sunset Western Gardener Handbook. You can purchase it at the following website: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0376038748/o/qid=994175185/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-2078933-2218332 However, I have found it a little cheaper at our local Home Depot. This has been the best took I ever could have purchased for my landscape planning. It is my bible so to speak. I take it with me whenever I go to any garden shop. I have lots of pictures of plants on my website as well, although mostly roses, so you might want to check it out to get some ideas as well. Hope this helps! :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 172 Rose Bushes Planted! 100 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From ej10817@goodnet.com Tue Jul 3 16:38:12 2001 From: ej10817@goodnet.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010703093541.00b3d010@mail.winstarmail.com> Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering practice. Thanks Pat From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:50:14 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:50:14 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] citrus fruit drop Message-ID: Here is an earl;ier posting that may answer the question: "Fruit drop is natures way of ridding the fruit tree of fruit the tree cannot handle. Fruit drop is also caused by a stress condition on the tree such as inadequate irrigation, over fertilization or an improper chemical application as well as other things. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener" Extreme hot, dry weather and wind can cause stress even if the water schedule is unchanged. >From: Pat >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 > >Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have >the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his >grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very >big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering >practice. Thanks > >Pat > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:55:34 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:55:34 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] shade trees, non-invasive roots Message-ID: Xylosma congestum are planted close to the walls of the Pima County Cooperative Extension building. They have been there about 10 years and we have not seen any problems. -- one possibility Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: mflowers@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) > >I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much >room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I >want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the >wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall >although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are >quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more >shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank >you,Mark Flowers > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:05:08 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:05:08 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscape ideas Message-ID: Chris, Arizona Department of Water Resources has produced several color books for gardening in the desert. These are available free of charge (I think) by the city water department in Peoria. Contact them -- sorry I don't have a phone #/address but others on this list may be able to help. Or you can call ADWR at (602) 417-2465. The latest publication is: Xeriscape: Landscaping with Style in the Arizona Desert Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Crisser8372@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) > >HI, >I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can >direct me, thanks. >My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban >Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating >their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban >Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > >Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of >flowers/trees >grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you >can >do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to >help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > >Thank you. >Chris > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:12:17 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have seen large numbers this year. Here is information posted 3 years ago about these insects: "How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Michelle, An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor ;-) http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and then they'll migrate. Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have such an inviting environment. Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. Lucy Bradley >From: rbcakane@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) > >we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are >these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:19:39 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:19:39 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: oops -- the document moved in three years -- here is the correct site: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/f-chinch.htm >From: "Linda Drew" >To: rbcakane@aol.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 > >You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have >seen large numbers this year. Here is information >posted 3 years ago about these insects: > >"How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs > >Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) >Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 > > Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > >Michelle, > >An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations >which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. > >See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor >;-) > >http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm > >Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control >the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't >doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to >put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and >then they'll migrate. > >Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the >vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have >such an inviting environment. > >Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. > >Lucy Bradley > > >>From: rbcakane@aol.com >>To: >>Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) >> >>we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what >>are >>these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >>ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Arid_gardener mailing list >>Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From rcdemark@aol.com Tue Jul 3 22:13:39 2001 From: rcdemark@aol.com (rcdemark@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107032213.f63MDdI29939@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 2 year old Fig tree. The edges of the leaves sre turning brown on the edges. Then the leaf drops off. Is this normal? Anything I can do? It had one fig and it also droped off after it was on several weeks. Thanks. From umiller@azdps.com Tue Jul 3 22:39:58 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscaping in Peoria In-Reply-To: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: A book you could buy that covers only the dry desert areas like Peoria is "Plants for Dry Climates" by Duffield and Jones. You probably can't get this book in Chicago, but amazon.com sells it. Also, the Glendale Public Library (on 59th Avenue between Peoria and Olive, I think) has a desert garden with the plants labeled. It was made for viewing and to help people find plants that grow well out here. You might want to visit it when you're out here. Glendale is adjacent to Peoria, so it's probably near your in-laws' new home. Ursula Miller -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Crisser8372@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:28 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Tue Jul 3 23:11:55 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardening information for low desert References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B42513B.E9E1CC15@qwest.net> Chris: In addition to the other ideas that have been suggested, if you haven't done so, take some time and peruse our website. Lots of information to found and as well as book recommendations. The site is: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ Sue Bass Master Gardener Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Wed Jul 4 00:12:22 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:12:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Message-ID: <3B425F66.52CC6A5@AuroraNow.org> I haven't seen any responses to Mishelle yet. I'd say not to worry, most of the nurseries here in the low desert stock up on tomatoes and other annuals in September. Mishelle Fresener wrote: > > Hello,. > > I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I > tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's > because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, > and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. > So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. > Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm > in the Tempe area. > > Thanks, > > Mishelle > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From georgereading@hotmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:14:31 2001 From: georgereading@hotmail.com (georgereading@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:14:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? Thank you. From leoneamerica@azwest.net Wed Jul 4 00:23:59 2001 From: leoneamerica@azwest.net (leoneamerica@azwest.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:23:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements From bevbob1962@cs.com Wed Jul 4 01:23:05 2001 From: bevbob1962@cs.com (bevbob1962@cs.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:23:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. From hsmenchaca@prodigy.net Wed Jul 4 02:58:10 2001 From: hsmenchaca@prodigy.net (hsmenchaca@prodigy.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:58:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040258.f642wAI29230@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have several Mesquite Trees in my pasture that I would like to transplant closer to my patio. I like the way they look and how they survive in the dry heat and cold weather. Please advise my on how to transplant, when to transplant, how big the trees should be , and what I should do to make they grow. Thanks for the advise, Hector Menchaca From southpawaz@home.com Wed Jul 4 03:08:53 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:08:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant References: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4288C5.C383ADDB@home.com> Hi George, I did an internet search using google.com for the phrase Argentine Giant. I found just one reference to a cactus by this name, a cactus grower who used that common name for the species Trichocereus gigantica. A google search for that species yielded no other references to a cactus by that name, so I suspect it is not a properly named cactus. Do you know the scientific name of the cactus you are asking about? georgereading@hotmail.com wrote: > > Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? > Thank you. > -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com N*G*G, W*W, R*S From JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com Wed Jul 4 05:28:39 2001 From: JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com (JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:28:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:06 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DN6I19307@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- :-) From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:53 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- Avrohom Leichtling :-) From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:04:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bulb storage (IRIS) References: <000701c10318$b6e2cd60$c459af3f@compaq> Message-ID: <3B43307D.FD0F97F6@qwest.net> --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County, AZ Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote: > I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a > newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap > them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How > cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in > the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 > degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and > beautiful when they bloom. --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice.

Linda Guy, MG
Maricopa County, AZ

Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote:

 I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and beautiful when they bloom.
--------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:06:40 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:06:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Commecial Flower Production References: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B433100.340EC3E1@qwest.net> If you have fall frosts, its doubtful that you live in the area that we are trained to serve....the low desert of Phoenix, AZ. Why not contact our counterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book? They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County leoneamerica@azwest.net wrote: > I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:11:26 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:11:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palm Problems References: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43321E.79867582@qwest.net> Your sagos, which are cycads [a remnant from the dinosaurs era], not true palms, are poorly located and would do best in a partially shady to full shade situation. They can also scorch simply in a reflective heat situation. I would not attempt to move them now, but instead would erect a shade cloth structure until the heat abates in the fall, when transplanting might be more suitable. You can look at our writeup in the palm publication [AZ 1021] under the ornamentals category at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm The discussion is on the last page. Good luck! Linda Guy, MG bevbob1962@cs.com wrote: > I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:24:11 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Artemisia Powis or Powys Castle References: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43351A.F59DF0F9@qwest.net> It is a hybrid artemisia of uncertain origin and most herb books will contain a discussion of this useful backdrop or border plant, as does the Sunset Western Garden Book. Grown principally for the foliage, it grows here in Phoenix with some supplemental water. [Wormwood and tarragon are other examples of the artemisia family.] A. absinthium [common wormwood] is the probable parent. Although it looks lacy and delicate, it's pretty sturdy and can grow to 3' high by 6' across, though I've not seen them this large in Phoenix. Linda Guy, MG JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com wrote: > I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:39:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:39:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palms with yellow leaves Message-ID: If you have not been fertilizing them with a special palm fertilizer, that could be your problem. Inadequate irrigation could also be the problem. Check out these websites for info on palm care and irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:39:08 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:39:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Growing Saguaro [Carnegiea gigantea] References: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43389C.D8F2218E@qwest.net> There is a chapter on cactus in our online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ You can use a potting mix that is 1/2 sand/grit/gravel and 1/2 commercial mix. Above all, it needs to be kept well-drained. Always dispose of the water in the container tray. Irrigation is often only necessary in the summer in the wild, so I would suggest only minimal watering in the winter, increased somewhat in the summer. When in doubt, we usually don't water. Saguaros do not get fertilized in the wild; if you feel compelled to do so, apply a diluted mixture sparingly, early in the growing season [spring]. A very good publication is available for purchase [8309] at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Unfortunately, it cannot be viewed online at this time. Another reference is an old addition of our Horticultural Communicator Jul/Aug 1999, page 16. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/hortcom.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County music613@cyburban.com wrote: > I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business > and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding > country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. > > Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" > Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). > Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still > in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in > the living room that gets the morning sun), I > would like to re-plant them into something > more appropriate. > > How can I obtain the correct soil environment > for these plants? Is there some commercial > mixture available in AZ that I could buy > and then have sent to me here? Or are there > reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable > watering schedule for these plants? > > My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any > help you could provide would be much appreciated. > > If this experiment works, my grandchildren > may have something beautiful to look at! > > Thanks- > > Avrohom Leichtling > > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:52:47 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:52:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite trees, transplanting Message-ID: <127.f4c4b2.287495cf@aol.com> Mesquite trees, because of their tap root do not transplant well. Because of the long tap root your chances would be much better to try very small plants. The most favorable time would be in late fall. They will require water at least every other day for the first month. Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on Arborculture at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From nlooper@catc.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:49 2001 From: nlooper@catc.net (nlooper@catc.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:01:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041601.f64G1nI01018@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have some plum trees that usually have lots of fruit but it is not fit to eat. They grow to a nice size but as they start to turn red they begin in one spot and it has a worm in it. Every plum is ruined. I have sprayed the trees, blooms, trunks. poured bleach around the feed line in off season, tried home remidies, commercial products to no avail. The trees are 11 years old and I have gotten one year of good fruit from them. Is there anything I can do except cut them down? I also have a year old nectarine tree that has the sap coming out of the side of the tree. Is it already infected? My grape vines have lots of grapes but they are small. The grapes are already getting ripe and the vines seem to be dying and the leaves turning brown and falling off. I guess my garding skills are very bad. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated. From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:50 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vines on stucco References: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B433DEE.BBF3EC6F@qwest.net> My experience of cat's claw was that when removed, it left pieces of its 'claws' on the masonry but a good stout hosing followed with a stiff brush was enough to remove the traces. If you are interested in vines that either twine or wrap tendrils around anything in their path, you'd be better served if you attached a trellis or similar structure on the surface in question. Options for high sun include queen's wreath, climbing bougainvilleas, trumpet vines, creeping fig [not meant for afternoon sun; also a clinger like cat's claw], certain jasmines and honeysuckles, carolina jessamine and grapes, too. You could conceivably fasten Lady Banks' Rose but it is also very wide; similarly cape plumbago could be trained up. Some of these are deciduous, some evergreen; some risk die back to roots in frost and others are more hardy. Linda Guy, MG BOB RAMSEY wrote: > I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house > exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I > have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the > stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for > painting. Is this true and are there other choices for > a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From saxdoc@home.com Wed Jul 4 16:38:03 2001 From: saxdoc@home.com (saxdoc@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:38:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041638.f64Gc3I04254@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a String Acacia tree that has been growing well. However, since the very hot weather set in, there is less growth and a series of brown pods have grown. Is more water needed? Or is it the time of year? From cliddle@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 16:50:12 2001 From: cliddle@az.rmci.net (cliddle@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:50:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041650.f64GoCI05419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I buy potato seed/eyes that will do well here in the valley? I understand the best time to plant is in Oct. I have seen great looking fields of potatoes in the farming area. Thanks for your time. From bbpotts@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 18:44:35 2001 From: bbpotts@az.rmci.net (bbpotts@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041844.f64IiYI16147@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have cantalope on vines that are of various sizes and state of developement. Do they have a chance of ripening if I keep them watered? Also should I be feeding them since they have been growing since the first to mid march? From wuerfel@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 19:21:23 2001 From: wuerfel@earthlink.net (wuerfel@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:21:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041921.f64JLNI19059@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are looking for plants to go around the west side of our pool. There is a block fence on the other side. The area is in the southwest corner of our yard (our home faces north) therefore, there is quite a bit of sun. The area we want to fill in is from two to four feet wide and about thirty feet long. We do have a salt water system and the plants could be splashed. Thanks for your help! From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:32 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:52 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcqI12799@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 23:43:02 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:43:02 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree growth slowed by heat Message-ID: <2b.17b8e5f3.28750406@aol.com> Most plants will show very little growth when the temperature is over 100 degrees. Check out this site on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jandk23@micron.net Thu Jul 5 00:59:05 2001 From: jandk23@micron.net (jandk23@micron.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:59:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050059.f650x5I17970@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Crookneck Squash I have a nice bunch of plants growing that look mighty healthy. But, the squash is growing about 2 or 3 inches (with a nice yellow color) and shriveling up and dying. Any ideas? Kevin From wyshyvanuk@home.com Thu Jul 5 01:08:49 2001 From: wyshyvanuk@home.com (wyshyvanuk@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:08:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050108.f6518nI18610@Ag.Arizona.Edu> (2) Jacaranda trees have been in the ground about 6 years. Both have developed a dark, charcoal colored stain on the bark of both the trunk and lower branches. The stain appears to be "carried" down the branches from branch intersections. Although the trees seem healthy otherwise, there is an area on the trunk that shows cracked and peeling bark about 8" by 10". Any hints on what the problem(s) may be? Thanks!! From jhci@aol.com Thu Jul 5 01:25:11 2001 From: jhci@aol.com (jhci@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:25:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please send Information on plants that would be acceptable around pools. Thank You From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:11:55 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden References: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4475AB.C75E072E@qwest.net> A great place to start is this website. Go back to the home page at http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ and look at the resources available under the Youth and Community Gardens heading. For basic horticultural information, you can review the listing of publications [use Maricopa County for the smaller urban horticulture listing] as well as the Recommended Reading link. The Index will help you locate a particular topic [pest or other problem], and finally the monthly Timely Tips columns will tell you what's best to be underway in your garden, the pests to expect and how to manage them. Late February usually marks the weekend of our annual School Garden conference. The website usually contains information on the home page as the date approaches and registration packets are available. Finally, you might be interested in our book specifically geared to someone in your situation, Success with School Gardens. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/sch-bk.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG kateejane@earthlink.net wrote: > I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:14:48 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:14:48 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Squash not setting fruit References: <200107050059.f650x5I17970@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B447658.229A1D05@qwest.net> Yes, the pollination process was inadequate and as a result the plants are able to produce only the most miniscule fruit. Pollination with a q-tip as explained in the Fruits section of the monthly Timely Tips column, should help you resolve your problem. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/july.htm Linda Guy, MG jandk23@micron.net wrote: > Crookneck Squash > > I have a nice bunch of plants growing that look mighty healthy. But, the squash is growing about 2 or 3 inches (with a nice yellow color) and shriveling up and dying. Any ideas? > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:16:56 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside landscaping References: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4476D8.FDBD3355@qwest.net> AZ 1021 for poolside landscaping is just what you're looking for. Check it out in the ornamentals section of our publications list at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Linda Guy, MG jhci@aol.com wrote: > Please send Information on plants that would be acceptable around pools. > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:19:27 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside Landscaping References: <200107041921.f64JLNI19059@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44776F.438E1529@qwest.net> Some of the publications that might be of interest to you in our listing at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm include AZ 1058 Plants for Poolside Landscapes and Q96 Salt Damage Protection. The latter is not yet online and must be ordered, but the former can be seen from a link on that page. Linda Guy, MG wuerfel@earthlink.net wrote: > We are looking for plants to go around the west side of our pool. There is a block fence on the other side. The area is in the southwest corner of our yard (our home faces north) therefore, there is quite a bit of sun. The area we want to fill in is from two to four feet wide and about thirty feet long. We do have a salt water system and the plants could be splashed. Thanks for your help! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:20:34 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:20:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside landscaping References: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4477B2.AA0F019F@qwest.net> I apologize, the publication in question is AZ 1058, same page. Linda From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:22:33 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:22:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden References: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B447829.6583B488@qwest.net> I neglected to add that a terrific local resource is the Tucson Botanical Gardens which has curriculum guides for the elementary school grades. Resources like this would be found in an appendix in the back of the book I referenced. Linda Guy, MG From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:24:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig Problems References: <200107032213.f63MDdI29939@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44789D.4B287979@qwest.net> It would be helpful to us if you provided information about your cultural practices. Also, are we dealing with an ornamental fig or one of the fruiting varieties? Indoors, in a container, outdoors? Linda Guy, MG rcdemark@aol.com wrote: > I have a 2 year old Fig tree. The edges of the leaves sre turning brown on the edges. Then the leaf drops off. Is this normal? Anything I can do? It had one fig and it also droped off after it was on several weeks. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:28:10 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:28:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Potato Starts References: <200107041650.f64GoCI05419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44797A.85832173@qwest.net> I'm not sure where to get them, as I usually just cut up my favorite potatoes from the local farmer's markets. However, I'm writing to say that I believe October could be a bit early for potatoes. Some say December is a good time, whereas our planting publication says Jan/Feb is the time to get them in the ground. The calendar is in the Vegetables section of our publications list at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#top Linda Guy, MG cliddle@az.rmci.net wrote: > Where can I buy potato seed/eyes that will do well here in the valley? I understand the best time to plant is in Oct. I have seen great looking fields of potatoes in the farming area. Thanks for your time. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 5 14:48:25 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:48:25 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden Message-ID: Welcome to Tucson! Tucson has an active school garden program. In March, Cooperative Extension helped schools put on a fund-raiser that included six school gardens on a special tour. Contact Liz Harrison (lh54321@aol.com). She is the chair of the Youth Committee for Pima County Master Gardeners. And check our web page at: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/pima/gardening Pima County's Kids' Summer School begins on July 16th at 4210 N. Campbell Ave, Tucson. Stop by and get acquainted! Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Linda Guy" >To: kateejane@earthlink.net >CC: "Arid_gardener" >Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:11:55 -0700 > >A great place to start is this website. Go back to the home page at >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ and look at the resources >available under the Youth >and Community Gardens heading. For basic horticultural information, you can >review the listing of publications [use Maricopa County for the smaller >urban >horticulture listing] as well as the Recommended Reading link. The Index >will help you locate a particular topic [pest or other problem], and >finally the >monthly Timely Tips columns will tell you what's best to be underway in >your garden, the pests to expect and how to manage them. > >Late February usually marks the weekend of our annual School Garden >conference. The website usually contains information on the home page as >the date approaches >and registration packets are available. Finally, you might be interested >in our book specifically geared to someone in your situation, Success with >School >Gardens. >http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/sch-bk.htm > >Good luck! >Linda Guy, MG > > >kateejane@earthlink.net wrote: > > > I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain >a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we >can start? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:55:19 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:55:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Water lilies and ponds References: Message-ID: <3B447FD6.366ECDFE@qwest.net> My pond faces east and receives sunlight through about 2pm. I'm not familiar with lilies that can withstand shade. Most of my reading suggests otherwise....a minimum of 6 hours up to 8 hours preferred. Perhaps members of the Greater Phoenix Pond Society would have some notions for you. http://www.accessarizona.com/community/groups/pond/ Linda Guy, MG RkBetu@aol.com wrote: > I have just built a small pond (3' x 4' x 16" deep), above ground with > small fountain. It is in shade most of the day. Are there any types of water > lilies that will bloom in shade and with moving water? Where can I find info > on stores that sell pond plants on the west side of Phoenix? > Thank you > Rocki > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 5 15:11:14 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:11:14 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant Message-ID: In Tucson, a plant being sold as "Argentinian saguaro" is Trichocereus terscheckii. See http://www.stickysituation.com/ Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Bobby >To: georgereading@hotmail.com >CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:08:53 -0700 > >Hi George, > >I did an internet search using google.com for the phrase Argentine >Giant. I found just one reference to a cactus by this name, a cactus >grower who used that common name for the species Trichocereus >gigantica. A google search for that species yielded no other references >to a cactus by that name, so I suspect it is not a properly named >cactus. Do you know the scientific name of the cactus you are asking >about? > >georgereading@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > Could you please send me information on the care and history of >Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called >"Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? > > Thank you. > > > >-- >Bobby >southpawaz@home.com >N*G*G, W*W, R*S >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From az4me@earthlink.net Thu Jul 5 17:37:30 2001 From: az4me@earthlink.net (az4me@earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:37:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107051737.f65HbTI12928@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I read about a new day lily, the Red Volunteer Day Lily, in a spring edition of Better Homes & Gardens. Do you think this can be grown successfully in Phoenix?. If so, when would I plant it? I've recently moved to Arizona and, to date, have planted only things that are particularly suited to arid conditions; however,I would like to plant this in a raised planter in front of our house From bayers@honors.arizona.edu Thu Jul 5 19:43:40 2001 From: bayers@honors.arizona.edu (Jim Bayers) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:43:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Stunted Corn Message-ID: Thanks for the help. What can stunt corn? The stalks were less than three feet high. I've checked the soil with a moisture meter and it showed that the water was OK. The soil isn't packed. Could PH do it? - Jim From rsigler@w3az.net Thu Jul 5 21:11:55 2001 From: rsigler@w3az.net (rsigler@w3az.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:11:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107052111.f65LBpI17703@Ag.Arizona.Edu> What are some good plants for erosion control on steep slopes in an arid environment? Any suggestions hardscape changes to slow erosion? From Leoneamerica-Arizona Thu Jul 5 21:39:39 2001 From: Leoneamerica-Arizona (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:39:39 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Commecial Flower Production References: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3B433100.340EC3E1@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B44DE9B.43E0E135@qwest.net> Can anyone help Bucks with this? I'm not knowledgeable about long-stemmed commercial type flowers. Thanks! Linda > leoneamerica@azwest.net wrote: > > > I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements > > > > > Dear Linda: I live in the Tolleson. I want to be able to plant flowers in the fall that will tolerate our frost season such as Larkspurs, Stocks, and so forth, I intend to sell them to local floral shops and will need something with decent length stems to put into a vase. Also someone asked me about Crape Myrtles; can they be grown from cuttings? What is the best way to spread them in your yard. I do not know what he is talking about. Thanks, Bucks From Krulich@aol.com Thu Jul 5 21:44:33 2001 From: Krulich@aol.com (Krulich@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 17:44:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question -Where do the drip emitters go? Message-ID: <27.17e37606.287639c1@aol.com> I have an olive tree that I would like to put on a drip system. The canopy is 25' to 35' in diameter. My question is where do the emitters need to go? Does the hose need to spiral around the trunk until it reaches the drip line, or should I just have one circle of emitters around the drip line. Also, how far apart should the emitters (1 gal/hour) be spaced? Thanks Tom From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 5 22:15:49 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:15:49 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Jacaranda showing a stressed condition Message-ID: <9f.17c66280.28764115@aol.com> The symptoms you describe could be caused by a stress condition, and this time of year drought stress is quite often present. Be sure that the trees get adequate deep watering. Check out this site on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From Beverlyfz@aol.com Thu Jul 5 23:13:33 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:13:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orchid Tree Message-ID: I planted some Orchid tree seeds and they came up right away and now that they are 4 inches tall they are withering and dying. I started them in quart containers to put out later in the yard. Can I save them? Beverlyf From Beverlyfz@aol.com Thu Jul 5 23:16:43 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:16:43 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orchid Tree Message-ID: <84.184c9fc6.28764f5b@aol.com> I forgot to mention that I started them in my greenhouse. Beverly From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:17:36 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:17:36 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Multiple grape varieties. References: <200106292215.f5TMFKw28727@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4511AF.E1ECC1B@qwest.net> I don't know the answer to your question, but I read through our publication on grapes and did not see any reference to problems with planting multiple varieties. You might want to order this publication [MC 59] at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Sorry I wasn't more help. Linda Guy, MG msiver@mail.maricopa.gov wrote: > Can different types of grapes like flame,perlette,thompson, be planted together in a row? Will planting them together make a difference in their taste,(sweetness)?Thank -you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:26:23 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:26:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Fig Problems References: <11b.13c918f.2875f059@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B4513BF.60A6F32B@qwest.net> --------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaf burn can sometimes arise in the low desert during the summer, but figs usually do well here. Your practices seem to be ok too. So I'm thinking that the lack of production could be a matter of an inappropriate variety selected for the region [for example, Kadota is popular in California but has a very poor track record for producing here in AZ, according to our fact sheet MC 23]. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Figs are susceptible to Texas root rot http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/diseases/root-rot.htm and also to nematodes, particularly in sandy soil http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/root-knt.htm I recommend you study this fact sheet [MC 23] further to ascertain the true nature of your problem. You can sometimes find a notebook of our pubs in the public library reference section, or order it on the publications page [link provided above]. Good luck, Linda RCDeMark@aol.com wrote: > I live in the Foothills Club West area in Ahwatukee. This fig is > planted on > the East side of the house. Between the 2 story house and a retaining > wall. > It is shaded in the afternoons. It is a fruiting variety. I deep > water it > in the summer time every 15 days. When it cools off then I water it > once a > month. It does not receive any other water unless it rains. It is fed > when I > fed the fruit trees. I have been fighting an infestation of Red > Spider Mites > on some vegetables. I do not see them on the under sides of the > leaves. I > also have a lot of White Flies. They do not seem to be real heavy on > the fig > tree. The fertilizer is a tree and shrub 13-7-7 with trace elements. > > > --------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaf burn can sometimes arise in the low desert during the summer, but figs usually do well here. Your practices seem to be ok too. So I'm thinking that the lack of production could be a matter of an inappropriate variety selected for the region [for example, Kadota is popular in California but has a very poor track record for producing here in AZ, according to our fact sheet MC 23]. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm

Figs are susceptible to Texas root rot
http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/diseases/root-rot.htm
and also to nematodes, particularly in sandy soil
http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/root-knt.htm

I recommend you study this fact sheet [MC 23] further to ascertain the true nature of your problem. You can sometimes find a notebook of our pubs in the public library reference section, or order it on the publications page [link provided above].

Good luck,
Linda

RCDeMark@aol.com wrote:

 I live in the Foothills Club West area in Ahwatukee.  This fig is planted on
the East side of the house.  Between the 2 story house and a retaining wall.
It is shaded in the afternoons.  It is a fruiting variety.  I deep water it
in the summer time every 15 days.  When it cools off then I water it once a
month. It does not receive any other water unless it rains.  It is fed when I
fed the fruit trees.  I have been fighting an infestation of Red Spider Mites
on some vegetables.  I do not see them on the under sides of the leaves.  I
also have a lot of White Flies.  They do not seem to be real heavy on the fig
tree.  The fertilizer is a tree and shrub 13-7-7 with trace elements.
 
 
 
--------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:35:01 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:35:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grapes Too Small References: <200107041601.f64G1nI01018@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4515C5.B88E6A64@qwest.net> You may be interested in our publication on backyard grapes [MC 59]. It has a discussion on this specific problem as well as good advice on many other cultivation practices. It can be ordered at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm The suggestions are for next year. Basically you want to thin out the berries within each cluster, rather than reducing the number of clusters, to improve size. The pub does a better job of explaining several ways to do this. I've never grown plums in Phoenix and can only suggest that you peruse the fruit trees chapter of the online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ Good luck! Linda Guy, MG nlooper@catc.net wrote: > I have some plum trees that usually have lots of fruit but it is not fit to eat. They grow to a nice size but as they start to turn red they begin in one spot and it has a worm in it. Every plum is ruined. I have sprayed the trees, blooms, trunks. poured bleach around the feed line in off season, tried home remidies, commercial products to no avail. The trees are 11 years old and I have gotten one year of good fruit from them. Is there anything I can do except cut them down? I also have a year old nectarine tree that has the sap coming out of the side of the tree. Is it already infected? > My grape vines have lots of grapes but they are small. The grapes are already getting ripe and the vines seem to be dying and the leaves turning brown and falling off. > I guess my garding skills are very bad. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 02:38:15 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Message-ID: <3B452497.77113A5E@qwest.net> Here is another response received on your question about the transplanted aloes: Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:29:57 -0400 From: "mmittelstaedt@earthlink.net" To: "sjbass@qwest.net" I'd dig those bad boys up and put them in pots until they establish themselves, then move them to a place where they can get filtered shade. In pots, they will need frequent watering - don't put them in full sun. Morning sun will work best until they have gotten over transplant shock. Miracle Gro can help transplant shock. Aloes will cook and die in full sun. Be warned ! Original Message: ----------------- From: Sue Bass sjbass@qwest.net Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:33:12 -0700 To: stevebethparker@kna.to, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Aloes prefer afternoon shade and thrive in filtered shade of high canopy trees. Given that the aloe you transplanted were growing in complete shade I would suspect that their new home is quite a shock to them. As for irrigation, after transplanting, the root area of the plant needs to be kept moist but not wet until new root development becomes established. Watering every other day is probably too much. Even though the surface of the soil may appear dry, the root area is probably still moist. Check the soil moisture at rooting depth before watering to avoid over-wet soils. The best rule of thumb for irrigating desert plants is Don't over-irrigate at any time - if in doubt, don't. Most desert plants are more tolerant of too little soil moisture than too much. Sue Bass Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Jul 6 16:42:07 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:42:07 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drip Systems, location of drippers Message-ID: <41.db990f1.2877445f@aol.com> The drippers on your irrigation system should be located at the drip line in a circle around your olive tree and I would suggest locating them four feet apart, which means that 20 drippers are required. Lets start out with the amount of water that your 25 foot diameter olive tree requires in summer. Cooperative Extension Fact Sheet MC 53 states that an olive tree with a 25 crown diameter requires 30.6 to 64.3 gallons of water per day in summer. Using the larger number, the amount of water required to water every two weeks is 900 gallons. Dividing the 900 gallons by the number of drippers (20) equals 45 gallons for each dripper. You must use adjustable drippers that adjust from one to ten gallons per hour. Setting the maximum opening on the dripper would require that the system run for 4.5 hours. Your soil may not absorb the water that fast which means that you would cut back on each dripper and run for a longer time. Check out the info on irrigation at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From pagooding@hotmail.com Fri Jul 6 18:02:52 2001 From: pagooding@hotmail.com (pagooding@hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:02:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- From umiller@azdps.com Fri Jul 6 18:38:46 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:38:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From colbeboy@webtv.net Fri Jul 6 19:45:48 2001 From: colbeboy@webtv.net (colbeboy@webtv.net) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:45:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107061945.f66JjmI20576@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have three raised bed gardens that I plan to grow vegetables in and am looking for a source of organic compost to fill the beds with and grow the vegetables in. (as recommended by "Dave the Garden guy" in his desert gardening book.The beds are 4'by6'by2' each and empty. *How much compost will I need to fill the beds? *Where can I get organic compost? Any other suggestions? Thanks- Betsy From steve.sheard@motorola.com Fri Jul 6 19:49:06 2001 From: steve.sheard@motorola.com (Stephen Sheard) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:49:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Geraniums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear All, I live in South Tempe. My Geraniums are 7 years old in this house and were 12 years old in my previous house. I have them on the North side of the house in full shade with good drainage. They are fantastic. I shape them and feed them miracle grow once a month (I keep them about 18" tall x 24"wide). They get 2 minutes of water twice a day - the same as my hanging baskets. My son took cutting from mine, put them in his yard in a similar location and they are going crazy as well. Great for YEAR ROUND color. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:39 AM To: pagooding@hotmail.com; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Fri Jul 6 19:58:53 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B46187D.4FC8B097@email.sps.mot.com> The most common mistake I see on geraniums is, people over water them. If the leaves are turning yellow, then dieing, that is most likely your problem. Geraniums like it on the dry side. This time of year, in extreme heat they prefer a little afternoon shade as well, especially if they are in containers. As for your Dichondra, I have no idea...someone else will have to help you with that one :) pagooding@hotmail.com wrote: > 2 questions: > > Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! > > Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From umiller@azdps.com Fri Jul 6 21:34:51 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 14:34:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] RE: Geraniums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve - This is great. I envy you because I love geraniums and would like having them year-round. I think that the full shade is the trick, like the man who moves his into the shade of the citrus tree each year. My problem is that there is no spot in my yard that has full shade, so the poor things just give up. But I have noticed that the ones that get more shade survive longer into the summer. No-Shade Ursula -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Sheard [mailto:steve.sheard@motorola.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:49 PM To: Ursula Miller; Arid Gardener; pagooding@hotmail.com Subject: Geraniums Dear All, I live in South Tempe. My Geraniums are 7 years old in this house and were 12 years old in my previous house. I have them on the North side of the house in full shade with good drainage. They are fantastic. I shape them and feed them miracle grow once a month (I keep them about 18" tall x 24"wide). They get 2 minutes of water twice a day - the same as my hanging baskets. My son took cutting from mine, put them in his yard in a similar location and they are going crazy as well. Great for YEAR ROUND color. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:39 AM To: pagooding@hotmail.com; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From carefreedentons@aol.com Sat Jul 7 21:27:11 2001 From: carefreedentons@aol.com (carefreedentons@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:27:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107072127.f67LRBI25828@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our Mesquite tree pods usually appear to have small insect holes. What are the insects? Is it safe to make mesquite meal from these pods? From ppatterson@ncslink.com Sat Jul 7 23:48:13 2001 From: ppatterson@ncslink.com (ppatterson@ncslink.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 16:48:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107072348.f67NmDI05476@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Why are my vinca wilting & then dying? My neighbor and I are having the same problem. We are wondering if it could do with planting a little later than usual - in early May. Someone else told her that you can't plant vinca in the same pot as petunias without changing the soil. Is this possible? Any suggestions on flowers that can take a lot of sun and heat during the summer? Thanks for your help. From engstromw@aol.com Sun Jul 8 00:10:33 2001 From: engstromw@aol.com (engstromw@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:10:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. From DAnde25974@aol.com Sun Jul 8 04:41:53 2001 From: DAnde25974@aol.com (DAnde25974@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:41:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107080441.f684frI24732@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can oleanders be used in the compost pile? Can the trimmings be mulched? From steve.sheard@motorola.com Sun Jul 8 12:39:27 2001 From: steve.sheard@motorola.com (Stephen Sheard) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 05:39:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vinca & Petunias. In-Reply-To: <200107072348.f67NmDI05476@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: Vinca suffer from over watering, so that may be the problem. Last year I wiped our 100 plants by not cutting back the watering soon enough after planting. I think there is also a fungus called "dampening off" that effects petunias and vinca. I have found that if I plant using "Capstan" - a fungicide, I can rotate my petunias and vinca. Summer flowers - Vinca do great, once they are established. This year I am trying Zinnia in one bed, but they are not doing to well. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of ppatterson@ncslink.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 4:48 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Why are my vinca wilting & then dying? My neighbor and I are having the same problem. We are wondering if it could do with planting a little later than usual - in early May. Someone else told her that you can't plant vinca in the same pot as petunias without changing the soil. Is this possible? Any suggestions on flowers that can take a lot of sun and heat during the summer? Thanks for your help. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lnlwood@aol.com Sun Jul 8 14:54:29 2001 From: lnlwood@aol.com (lnlwood@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 07:54:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081454.f68EsTI01431@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My peach tree is in its third year. The peaches are still green and like rocks. I'd like to avoid this problem next year. What am I doing wrong? From vernpro@msn.com Sun Jul 8 19:22:24 2001 From: vernpro@msn.com (vernpro@msn.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:22:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081922.f68JMOI20490@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I planted a AZALIA.plant and it was doing fine and growing to three.feet and just died. From raldag@aol.com Sun Jul 8 19:40:27 2001 From: raldag@aol.com (raldag@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:40:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081940.f68JeRI21656@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Southern Magnolia. We have a 30 ft southern magnolia with leaves that suggest Mild Chlorosis: leaves are pale green or yellowish green between the veins of normal green. In addition to applying chelated iron, is there any other treatments recommended? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:03:30 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:03:30 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Magnolia Trees Message-ID: <121.15e014e.287a1692@aol.com> Magnolias prefer a slightly acid soil, so the addition of soil sulfur and an organic mulch covering the root zone will be helpful in addition to the iron chelates in treating chlorosis. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From JeanSciFi@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:04:13 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:04:13 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Peaches Message-ID: --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, What kind of peaches? I have Bananza dwarf peaches and they were wonderful this year. If you live in the lower desert you have to select a peach variety with low chilling hour requirements. Mine were ripe before the really hot weather. You might also look at your watering practices. JeanSciFi Master Gardener Apache Junction, AZ --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

What kind of peaches?  I have Bananza dwarf peaches and they were wonderful
this year. If you live in the lower desert you have to select a peach variety
with low chilling hour requirements.  Mine were ripe before the really hot
weather.  You might also look at your watering practices.

JeanSciFi
Master Gardener
Apache Junction, AZ --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:11:19 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:11:19 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Azaleas Message-ID: <114.15aedc7.287a1867@aol.com> If you live in the low desert azalias are not well adapted to our high heat in summer, alkaline soil and low humidity. Why not plant one of the many flowering plants that do well here. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From vedaepa@aol.com Sun Jul 8 21:28:33 2001 From: vedaepa@aol.com (vedaepa@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:28:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107082128.f68LSXI29410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I live in McDowall Mtn. Ranch. Last July, I planted a Chilean Mesquitr from a 24-inch box in my back yard Bermuda grass Lawn. It lost all leaves over the winter. In the Spring it lost many of its small branches. They seemed to just dry up and snap off. Now in July 2001, it shows no new growth. It gets lawn water (12 minutes daily) and deep watering twice a week (two "fountain" emmiters for two hours each watering). Why no growth????? Thanks for your help. From vedaepa@aol.com Sun Jul 8 21:29:42 2001 From: vedaepa@aol.com (vedaepa@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:29:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107082129.f68LTgI29487@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I live in McDowall Mtn. Ranch. Last July, I planted a Chilean Mesquitr from a 24-inch box in my back yard Bermuda grass Lawn. It lost all leaves over the winter. In the Spring it lost many of its small branches. They seemed to just dry up and snap off. Now in July 2001, it shows no new growth. It gets lawn water (12 minutes daily) and deep watering twice a week (two "fountain" emmiters for two hours each watering). Why no growth????? Thanks for your help. From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 9 00:03:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:03:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Converting Bermuda Lawn References: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B48F4BB.74D7BA06@qwest.net> My suggestion to you is to water everything again very thoroughly to see if what you believe is 'dead' is simply dormant. You'd be amazed at bermuda's resilience. I watered and resprayed with a systemic herbicide three times when we converted our entire front yard to xeriscape. We did this process over two months or so. It seems like an oxymoron, but you have to keep tending the bermuda to ascertain whether you've truly done the job of eradicating it. My neighbors never believe me until the bermuda comes up the following year after the yard has been relandscaped and covered with granite! After killing the turf, we rototilled and raked as much of the stolons, rhizomes, as we could just to be on the safe side. I probably watered the whole yard again, just to be sure! Linda Guy, MG engstromw@aol.com wrote: > A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 9 00:06:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:06:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oleanders in Compost References: <200107080441.f684frI24732@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B48F59C.34B38006@qwest.net> At past MG Conferences, I was taught to keep oleanders and salt cedars out of the compost. Most purists will say 'no'; I don't use them myself, because I have plenty of alternate material. However, at one time a colleague showed me some scientific study that suggested that oleander shouldn't be the problem everyone thinks it is. I don't like messing with something that usually causes a skin reaction at a minimum, so I personally avoid it. Linda Guy, MG DAnde25974@aol.com wrote: > Can oleanders be used in the compost pile? Can the trimmings be mulched? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From thomas18@home.com Mon Jul 9 01:30:24 2001 From: thomas18@home.com (thomas18@home.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:30:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107090130.f691UOI15228@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are having a few problems with our landscaping and we need help: 1. Recently lost two trees (Chinese Elm) to what I believe is root rot. They broke easily right at ground level. One tree was 5yrs old the other 2yrs old. Watering schedule was 3 times/ week for about 40 min on drip irrigation with spider emitters. 2. Our lawn is in its second summer and there are many dead areas. Water 3x/ wk for 30 min and fertilized. 3. We have two Ash (majestic?) Trees and we are starting to see brown at the ends of the leaves and a pattern in the bark that looks like an oil stain ( if that makes sense)? Please advise, if you cannot offer in depth advice please send reccomendations for people I should contact to help. Thank you very much for your time. Tom From jkandell@email.arizona.edu Mon Jul 9 04:47:23 2001 From: jkandell@email.arizona.edu (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:47:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ants eating yard long beans In-Reply-To: <3B48F59C.34B38006@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B1F829E00013240@phobos.email.Arizona.EDU> I had read that yard long beans don't have many enemies. But mine are being eaten by red ants. They seem to like to hoard up to the joints and start sucking and in a few days the stem breaks. They are avoiding the cantelope a few inches away. Any thoughts on why they are going for it? (Is the juice sweet?) How to get rid of them? From jnknavarro@cs.com Mon Jul 9 15:59:12 2001 From: jnknavarro@cs.com (jnknavarro@cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:59:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Something is eating the leaves of one basil plants and not touching the other 2 basil plants nearby. I have looked for critters day and night and not found any. Other than the pea-size to larger holes in the leaves, the plant seems healthy. I tried spraying a soapy solution to no avail. I am a beginner with this and avoiding chemical sprays, etc. Do you have any hints? Thank you! From s2@AuroraNow.org Mon Jul 9 16:16:13 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: bugs on your basil References: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B49D8CD.2FAF7FE7@AuroraNow.org> I used to have this problem with basil in my old garden in Michigan. I personally bought "ladybug lures" to bring in beneficials and within two weeks, the problem was gone and the basil recovered. As long as there is a 'food supply' for the beneficials, they'll stick around. (If the 'food supply' is gone your basil isn't being eaten anymore, I suppose it doesn't matter if insects leave) -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 9 21:47:33 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:47:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite tree dying Message-ID: <94.168b37f0.287b8075@aol.com> The mesquite trees here in the low desert are deciduous and lose their leaves unless we have a very warm winter. I suspect that the dieback that you are having is due to over watering. If you deep watered once every two to three weeks it would be adequate since the tree is in turf and it gets watered every day. Check out this site on irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From southpawaz@home.com Mon Jul 9 22:42:35 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:42:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Removal of dead bermuda References: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4A335B.DE125157@home.com> Hi, I did this last year, roundup 2 times two weeks apart killed the grass pretty well, with some spot follow up. As an alternate to the suggestion you received from Linda, to remove the dead bermuda grass, I used a "Hula Hoe" to remove the grass and top layer of dirt (between a half inch to an inch), but that was a lot of work. Watering first made it easier. Depending on how much area of dead turf you have you might want to rent a sod cutter which would do the trick quite quickly but is not a real easy machine to use. I have had less than 5% of the bermuda return and I have spot sprayed that. engstromw@aol.com wrote: > > A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com From ThiedingM@aol.com Mon Jul 9 22:48:49 2001 From: ThiedingM@aol.com (ThiedingM@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:48:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107092248.f69MmnF04585@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Which of these trees would be best suited to a medium size, concrete-based patio, giving good shade, be evergreen, minimal to no litter, direct sun, 15 to 20 feet high, and low maintenance: Cascalote (Caesalpinia cacalaco), Quercus ilex, Ficus benjamina nitida, Brazil pepper tree, or any other you might suggest. Thank you. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 9 22:58:01 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:58:01 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree and turf problems Message-ID: <92.17291807.287b90f9@aol.com> Tom, You haven't given us enough symptoms to be able to diagnos a precise problem, however I suspect that improper irrigation is the cause of your tree problems. The shallow frequent watering does not encourage deep rooting, allows the salt which remains when the water evaporates to stay in the root zone and encourages the fungi which cause root rot. Both the elm and the ash are very sensitive to salt in the root zone. It is not uncommon for the Chinese elms to break off in a strong wind especially if the crowns have not been thinned. If you suspect Texas Root Rot the only positive way to identify the rot is to take a root sample to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab examination. Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on irrigation at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html You appear to be watering your turf adequately but to be sure, after irrigation insert a screwdriver with an 8 inch blade into the ground in several places and especially where the grass is dying. It will go easily to the depth that the water has penetrated. If you are not getting this kind of penetration then you need to give the turf more water. Another way to check the amount of water that is being applied is is to set out several small cans ( tuna fish cans or similiar) and measure the water applied after irrigation. Your newspaper on the weather page gives the amount of water that your turf needs. Bermuda grass needs to be fertilized monthly during the growing season. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From murpass@earthlink.net Mon Jul 9 23:24:11 2001 From: murpass@earthlink.net (Richard Foster) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 16:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite question Message-ID: <200107092326.QAA14992@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> My mesquite tree, about eight years old, is not growing well, especially on its west-facing side. I am watering it deeply ‹ eight hours overnight once a week with a soaker hose spread twice around the drip line. With a long stick, I check the soil after finishing watering, and the moisture goes down from two to two-and-a-half feet. The tree puts out new growth, but the leaves on the established branches drop their individual petals. Sometime the whole leaf just turns yellow, then brown, then drops off. This condition is always worst on the tree's west-facing side. Also, that side has not grown like the rest of the tree. It has fewer branches, and the ones it has are shorter than those on the other sides. It makes the tree look lop-sided. I have received a variety of conflicting opinions on what it needs, but nothing I've tried seems to help the problem. I hope you can help me salvage this tree. Thank you for your help. Carol Foster From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 10 00:05:23 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:05:23 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Patio tree Message-ID: <93.cf247a7.287ba0c3@aol.com> I'll give you the negatives on the different trees and you make a selection. Brazilian Pepper is susceptable to Texas Root Rot and Verticilium wilt and grows to 30 feet tall. Quercus ilex grows to 60 feet tall. Cascalote has thorns, has beautiful yellow flowers, not as much shade as the other trees. Ficus benjamina is not suitable for full sun, is very frost tender and grows to 30 feet tall. Ficus microcarpa nitida is frost tender but not as much as the benjamina, would benefit with some PM shade, grows to 20 feet tall. Must be protected from frosts for a year or two after planting. If the landscape is desert I would opt for the Cascolote if the thorns were not a problem, if it were not desert than my choice would be the Ficus nitida Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From kdjeal@cs.com Tue Jul 10 00:24:29 2001 From: kdjeal@cs.com (kdjeal@cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:24:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100024.f6A0OTF18130@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have an established lime tree (planted four years ago) that has produced heavily for three years. One month ago while covered in newly set fruit, first one of the major limbs rapidly died followed soon after by the other. The rootstock appears to be intact and has now thrown up shoots. What could be the cause? I am on the SRP flood irrigation system and I do not think that yhe tree became particularly stressed. Have I some infestation and would it be safe to plant another lime in the same location? On one side I have an orange tree and on the other side a lemon. Both of these are healthy and are covered in fruit. From flyingfroggy@juno.com Tue Jul 10 02:52:30 2001 From: flyingfroggy@juno.com (flyingfroggy@juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:52:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100252.f6A2qUF01811@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Is it possible to start a new Mexican (Red) Bird of Paradise plant from a >cutting? How would I do this? Is it possible to grow them from seeds? > From r.bahto@att.net Tue Jul 10 06:18:59 2001 From: r.bahto@att.net (r.bahto@att.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:18:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100618.f6A6IxF24619@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Are there any other types of bamboo that will grow in the Phoenix area (other than the two listed on this website - Bambusa oldhami and Phyllostachys aurea)? From bills@dlcresources.com Tue Jul 10 11:23:50 2001 From: bills@dlcresources.com (bills@dlcresources.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:23:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107101123.f6ABNoF20124@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I'm looking for some info on the desert museum palo verde. I have a property with hundreds of them. They seem to have a tendency to snap off at ground level. I would like to plant another variety of palo verde. What do you recommend? The trees are all in rows so it would have to be a very close match. From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 10 14:20:35 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:20:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Basil Leaf Damage References: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4B0F33.8708F19D@qwest.net> Pea-sized holes are most probably cutter bees, a beneficial pollinator. They do, however, inflict cosmetic damage to plants, and I'm not sure I can explain why one basil plant would be favored over the others, except that they prefer a particular variety. You can check out what their damage looks like and compare it to yours in the entomology chapter of the Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/entomology/landscape.html#foliage Linda Guy, MG jnknavarro@cs.com wrote: > Something is eating the leaves of one basil plants and not touching the other 2 basil plants nearby. I have looked for critters day and night and not found any. Other than the pea-size to larger holes in the leaves, the plant seems healthy. I tried spraying a soapy solution to no avail. I am a beginner with this and avoiding chemical sprays, etc. Do you have any hints? Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From JeanSciFi@aol.com Tue Jul 10 16:04:27 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:04:27 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Peaches Message-ID: <12c.12ba261.287c818b@aol.com> --part1_12c.12ba261.287c818b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The Elberta is not on the list of peaches recommended for the low desert. I checked Sunset's Western Gardener book and see that none of the Elberta varieties are listed for Sunset's Zone 13 for this area. The county extension office puts out a brochure called Deciduous Fruit & Nuts for the Low Desert. It lists and gives a short description of a number of peaches that do well here. All have chilling hour needs of 300 or less hours, mine has about 250 winter chilling hours required. Watch also the ripening time, since our summer heat would cook the fruit. Like my peaches were ripe in June. I prefer a freestone over a clingstone.