From millero@worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 17 05:05:53 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? References: Message-ID: <004d01c10e7e$b7806e00$d851530c@j0r9501> Tomatoes are not well adapted in Phoenix and it is pretty normal with this heat if you don't provide some kind of shade or partial shade and even irrigation. As I recall, you are in Tucson so your season should last a little longer. We have 44 plants this year of 22 different varieties. The season is pretty much over for deteminate (bush) types but we still get 2 pickings per week from the indeterminate types although the yield is decreasing and the fruit is ripening at a smaller size than 3 weeks ago. Early Girl should go for a few more weeks under 50% shade. If you go to the trouble of keeping the plants alive during the summer (using moisture and shade, it may bear again in the fall when the weather cools again but it would be easier and more productive to just set out new plants in September. Celebrity is a mid season determinate type which you need to get out in the garden by about mid February (in Phoenix) to get a decent crop - it will only bear one time. Beans don't seem to mind the heat too much if you provide enough water but you usually only get a few pickings. I plan to pull out my green beans Monday, the plants are pretty much spent. I have never been successful in growing Lima Beans. But check Geo. Brookbank's "Desert Gardening" book. He has an entire chapter on tomatoes in the book which is obviously geared to the Tucson climate. According to him, tomatoes in Tucson don't start to decline until July. Here in Phoenix, decline in June with the high heat levels is not unusual. Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Kandell" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? > My early girl tomatoes are turning brown and yellow, after generating some > nice fruit. My celebrity is still green. My other plants are ok too. Is > this normal? On a related theme, many of my plants seem to be turning dry > and brown and dying: green beans, lima beans, ... Is this the result of > underwatering? The 100+ heat? Is it normal this time of year? > > jk > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From nfivebad@att.net Sun Jul 1 01:39:40 2001 From: nfivebad@att.net (nfivebad@att.net) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:39:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are interested in starting some cat claw vines. A neighbor has clippings available. What is a good procedure? Thank You From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 01:53:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Propagating Cat's Claw Vine References: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E827D.D7BCED07@qwest.net> The following link will take you to the chapter on plant propagation in the Master Gardener Manual http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/propagation/index.html This should get you on your way to propagating your own vines. Sue Bass nfivebad@att.net wrote: > We are interested in starting some cat claw > vines. A neighbor has clippings available. > What is a good procedure? > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:17:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:17:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering Cactus and Agave References: <200106011541.f51FfVB16188@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E881D.D788B200@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding watering cactus and agave. According to Mary Irish's book, "Agaves, Yuccas, and Related Plants", in the hot deserts, water agaves every 10 days in the summer, more frequently if it is very hot. It is a poor practice to water agaves in the ground frequently with small amounts of water, so if a plant is in a basin, fill up the basin and let the water percolate slowly into the soil. In moderate climates, or in the spring and fall in the hot deserts, watering every three weeks is sufficient. Mary points out in her book that agaves signal water stress by having a wrinkled or withered appearance on the surface of the leaf. Leaves that fall or flop often indicate much more serious problems or such extreme water stress that one needs to act immediately. Wrinkling will correct with a good watering. Mary also responded to a similar question regarding the watering of cactus and agave stating that "depending on the species and the size and age of the plant it can range from a monthly soaking to almost once a week. Most do not require any winter irrigation if there is any winter rain at all if they are over 2 years in the ground." It is better not to overwater, so for the cactus a monthly soaking would probably be your best bet. But always keep an eye on your plant and watch for water stress. Hope this helps! Sue Bass Master Gardener > How often should catus plants such as agave > be watered? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:29:03 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Iris References: <200106050051.f550pWB04729@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8AEF.5B71ACF8@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding Iris. I have not grown Iris since moving to the low desert myself, but the following answer in our archives leads me to believe that you leave them in the ground unless you want to separate them. You can view the response from Dixie Humphries at: http://ag.arizona.edu/hypermail/arid_gardener/0876.html Sue Bass Master Gardener tgeddes135@aol.com wrote: > What do I do with my Iris bed now that they have finished blooming. Do I leave the bulbs in the ground or do I dig them up? > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:35:25 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig recipes References: <200106150054.f5F0soq24085@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8C6D.486B8B9F@qwest.net> You might try the following web sites for fig recipes: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/recipes/figs/figindex.html http://www.valleyfig.com/recipes.htm http://www.freep.com/fun/food/qfigrec5.htm http://www.californiafigs.com/ http://www.samcooks.com/EatFresh/Fruit/fig-recipes.htm Sue Bass aekozmiuk@hotmail.com wrote: > I will be having a lot of figs soon. I don't know how to fix them. Do you have some recipes or ideas for me. > I would appreciate any help you can give me. > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From DAnde25974@aol.com Sun Jul 1 04:00:53 2001 From: DAnde25974@aol.com (DAnde25974@aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:00:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? Daniel From maleyd@aol.com Sun Jul 1 15:48:35 2001 From: maleyd@aol.com (maleyd@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 08:48:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011548.f61FmZw21442@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 21 yr. old Modesto Ash tree growing in my flood irrigated yard which has been losing branches due to breakage. The limbs seem too heavy toward the tips causing them to bend down toward the ground. With branches hanging down, it seems like a moderare breese causes them to break. This same tree has some dead bramnches in the center which may or may not be related to the breakage problem. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan From stevebethparker@kna.to Sun Jul 1 17:35:12 2001 From: stevebethparker@kna.to (stevebethparker@kna.to) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:35:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 18:33:12 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes References: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F6CE8.3029964B@qwest.net> Aloes prefer afternoon shade and thrive in filtered shade of high canopy trees. Given that the aloe you transplanted were growing in complete shade I would suspect that their new home is quite a shock to them. As for irrigation, after transplanting, the root area of the plant needs to be kept moist but not wet until new root development becomes established. Watering every other day is probably too much. Even though the surface of the soil may appear dry, the root area is probably still moist. Check the soil moisture at rooting depth before watering to avoid over-wet soils. The best rule of thumb for irrigating desert plants is Don't over-irrigate at any time - if in doubt, don't. Most desert plants are more tolerant of too little soil moisture than too much. Sue Bass Master Gardener stevebethparker@kna.to wrote: > help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 19:09:35 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:09:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grey water in the Landscape References: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F756F.D0B0F7C4@qwest.net> You can view a publication on grey water use from the Water Resources Research Center (WRRC), College of Agriculture, University of AZ by going to the following link: http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/071rain.html Sue Bass Master Gardener DAnde25974@aol.com wrote: > Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:34:40 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:34:40 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Shamel Ash losing limbs Message-ID: <6e.c6d1aa4.2870d550@aol.com> Dan, The Shamel Ash is a very fast growing tree and because of its fast growth does not develop the strength that a slower growing tree does. It is common for this tree's branches to break and fall. When the tree is young proper pruning can minimise the amount of breakage that it has at a later date. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:51:57 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:51:57 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Mesquite dying Message-ID: <115.113112a.2870d95d@aol.com> Tim, The total vegetation killer is the culprit. You not only have killed your weeds but your tree also. If the chemical you used is a soil sterilent you may not be able to plant any thing in that area for years, again depending on the chemical that was in the total vegetation killer. If you have other trees or intend to plant others your irrigation practice leaves something to be desired. The mesquite would be much happier if deep watered once every two weeks in summer. Check out this website for proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jfmattern@worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 1 22:38:34 2001 From: jfmattern@worldnet.att.net (jfmattern@worldnet.att.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:38:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. Here is a list of what we have: cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? From annmarienewman@earthlink.net Sun Jul 1 22:45:56 2001 From: annmarienewman@earthlink.net (annmarienewman@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:45:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 00:51:34 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 17:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Irrigation schedule References: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC596.434DCE45@qwest.net> 3 minutes is definitely not long enough. All of these plants require deep watering. The following links will take you to information on proper irrigation. The first one: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/irrigation/index.html is a chapter from the Master Gardener Manual on irrigation. The second: http://www.amwua.org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm Is from the Arizona Municipal Water Users Association (AMWUA) and is a watering schedule for summer and winter irrigation. With the heat we are having, check out the watering schedule from AMWUA and make the corrections as soon as possible. Sue Bass Master Gardener jfmattern@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. > Here is a list of what we have: > cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. > Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 01:00:26 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 18:00:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Worms for composting References: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC7A9.9B693E85@qwest.net> The following site will give you information on where to purchase worms for composting: http://www.mastercomposter.com/vendor/buyworms.html Sue Bass Master Gardener annmarienewman@earthlink.net wrote: > Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From casalzer1@cs.com Mon Jul 2 14:45:36 2001 From: casalzer1@cs.com (casalzer1@cs.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:45:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021445.f62Ejaw09410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am moving to the west valley in late August and have been told this may be a bad time to plant trees. I have visited a couple of nurserys and they told me it would be no problem. Do you have any input for me? I am planning on planting ficus, plum, orange, lemon, apricot and a few others. Thank you for your assistance. Chris Salzer From ram6260@yahoo.com Mon Jul 2 16:12:37 2001 From: ram6260@yahoo.com (BOB RAMSEY) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] cats claw hurting stucco Message-ID: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for painting. Is this true and are there other choices for a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mon Jul 2 16:17:13 2001 From: kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Kathleen Peterson) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:17:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Farm and Home In-Reply-To: <3B3E898D.489FBF68@qwest.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010702091124.00ab7ec0@ag.arizona.edu> Farm and Home is no longer on (unfortunately). Channel 15 KNXV is looking to put a segment on the Sonoran Living show that deals with gardening. John Chapman (a Master Gardener) will be the host and will treat it "Bob Villa style" (from This Old House) as he interviews the experts. John has been working closely with extension to select possible topics ect. It is not 100% yet, so you might want to contact Channel 15 and let them know it is a program you would be interested in. >Is the program "Farm and Home" still on? If so what channel and what time? >I really enjoyed it and miss it. >Thank you. From mishelle@usscreen.com Mon Jul 2 18:38:38 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Hello,. I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm in the Tempe area. Thanks, Mishelle From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 2 18:53:32 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 18:53:32 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: squirrels; citrus Message-ID: >From: Mark Rosati >To: drew_linda@hotmail.com >Subject: master gardener questions >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0700 > >Master gardener questions, > >My first question is about ground squirrels. >My backyard backs up to a Phoenix Mountain Preserve (seems to be >preserved thus far). The plants in my landscape are Southwestern and >Mexican natives. The round-tailed squirrels, rock squirrels, and desert >cottontail infrequently browse my plants. The real trouble squirrels >are the Harris Antelope ground squirrels. They dig into plant roots >aggressively and nibble (and sometimes devastate) Agaves, cacti, and >several subshrubs. > > Help!!, how do I deter/repel them. > >My second question has to do with citrus tree flowering and fruiting. > >One year ago I planted a tangelo, navel orange, and grapefuit (15 gallon >container size). They appear healthy and happy (dark green and growing) >with the amount of water and fertilizer I give them, however, they >dropped almost all of their flowers and the remaining fruit dropped >after a few weeks. > > Thanks again for any info or referrals you can provide. > Mark > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Mourningdove50@aol.com Mon Jul 2 19:28:12 2001 From: Mourningdove50@aol.com (Mourningdove50@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:28:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021928.f62JSCw26220@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dear Master gardener, Several weeks ago, I lost a hibiscus to, what I thought was improper amounts of water.The plant yellowed, then died completely, even after I put a higher gph emitter on it. Two days ago, I noticed the one about 4 ft. away from that one exhibiting the same symtoms, including the same tip burning of the leaves in several areas of the plant, along with small dead flower buds. I suspected that the herbicide that my gardener used might be the culprit. I examined all of the plants in my front yard, which is the only area that he maintains for me,and noticed the same sort of damage on my cape honeysuckle. And on my queen palm, the new growth is yellow and looks very weak . I have flooded the area with water under each of these plants in the hope that I might save them, There was no hope for the first hibiscus because, I think I noticed the damage too late. Do you think the herbicide he uses on the weeds may have infiltrated the soil? Also it looks like a drift might have occured because some of the leaves are severely damaged, and some are just yellowing. I would appreciate any help you can give me regarding this, my hibiscus is 12 years old, and I am devistated. I plan to ask him if I may read the container of the product he is using.Also, I would like to know if there is a place that I can send samples of the plants to be tested for herbicide exposure. Sincerly yours, Cahterine G Bauerlein From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 2 21:51:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:51:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Trees in August Message-ID: <6b.1693c27a.287246c4@aol.com> Chris, Trees can be planted in August in the low desert, the landscapers do it all the time. Personally I would wait a month or two when the temperatures are less severe and the risk to the trees is is greatly reduced. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From rbcakane@aol.com Tue Jul 3 01:47:15 2001 From: rbcakane@aol.com (rbcakane@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107030147.f631lFw23335@Ag.Arizona.Edu> we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... From Crisser8372@aol.com Tue Jul 3 15:27:33 2001 From: Crisser8372@aol.com (Crisser8372@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris From mflowers@home.com Tue Jul 3 15:28:27 2001 From: mflowers@home.com (mflowers@home.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031528.f63FSRI12804@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank you,Mark Flowers From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Tue Jul 3 15:48:58 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B41E96A.C9713184@email.sps.mot.com> Hi Chris, I think one of the best resources for plants in the west is the Sunset Western Gardener Handbook. You can purchase it at the following website: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0376038748/o/qid=994175185/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-2078933-2218332 However, I have found it a little cheaper at our local Home Depot. This has been the best took I ever could have purchased for my landscape planning. It is my bible so to speak. I take it with me whenever I go to any garden shop. I have lots of pictures of plants on my website as well, although mostly roses, so you might want to check it out to get some ideas as well. Hope this helps! :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 172 Rose Bushes Planted! 100 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From ej10817@goodnet.com Tue Jul 3 16:38:12 2001 From: ej10817@goodnet.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010703093541.00b3d010@mail.winstarmail.com> Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering practice. Thanks Pat From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:50:14 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:50:14 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] citrus fruit drop Message-ID: Here is an earl;ier posting that may answer the question: "Fruit drop is natures way of ridding the fruit tree of fruit the tree cannot handle. Fruit drop is also caused by a stress condition on the tree such as inadequate irrigation, over fertilization or an improper chemical application as well as other things. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener" Extreme hot, dry weather and wind can cause stress even if the water schedule is unchanged. >From: Pat >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 > >Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have >the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his >grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very >big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering >practice. Thanks > >Pat > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:55:34 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:55:34 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] shade trees, non-invasive roots Message-ID: Xylosma congestum are planted close to the walls of the Pima County Cooperative Extension building. They have been there about 10 years and we have not seen any problems. -- one possibility Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: mflowers@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) > >I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much >room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I >want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the >wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall >although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are >quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more >shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank >you,Mark Flowers > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:05:08 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:05:08 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscape ideas Message-ID: Chris, Arizona Department of Water Resources has produced several color books for gardening in the desert. These are available free of charge (I think) by the city water department in Peoria. Contact them -- sorry I don't have a phone #/address but others on this list may be able to help. Or you can call ADWR at (602) 417-2465. The latest publication is: Xeriscape: Landscaping with Style in the Arizona Desert Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Crisser8372@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) > >HI, >I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can >direct me, thanks. >My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban >Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating >their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban >Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > >Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of >flowers/trees >grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you >can >do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to >help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > >Thank you. >Chris > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:12:17 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have seen large numbers this year. Here is information posted 3 years ago about these insects: "How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Michelle, An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor ;-) http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and then they'll migrate. Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have such an inviting environment. Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. Lucy Bradley >From: rbcakane@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) > >we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are >these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:19:39 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:19:39 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: oops -- the document moved in three years -- here is the correct site: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/f-chinch.htm >From: "Linda Drew" >To: rbcakane@aol.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 > >You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have >seen large numbers this year. Here is information >posted 3 years ago about these insects: > >"How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs > >Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) >Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 > > Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > >Michelle, > >An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations >which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. > >See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor >;-) > >http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm > >Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control >the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't >doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to >put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and >then they'll migrate. > >Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the >vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have >such an inviting environment. > >Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. > >Lucy Bradley > > >>From: rbcakane@aol.com >>To: >>Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) >> >>we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what >>are >>these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >>ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Arid_gardener mailing list >>Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From rcdemark@aol.com Tue Jul 3 22:13:39 2001 From: rcdemark@aol.com (rcdemark@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107032213.f63MDdI29939@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 2 year old Fig tree. The edges of the leaves sre turning brown on the edges. Then the leaf drops off. Is this normal? Anything I can do? It had one fig and it also droped off after it was on several weeks. Thanks. From umiller@azdps.com Tue Jul 3 22:39:58 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscaping in Peoria In-Reply-To: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: A book you could buy that covers only the dry desert areas like Peoria is "Plants for Dry Climates" by Duffield and Jones. You probably can't get this book in Chicago, but amazon.com sells it. Also, the Glendale Public Library (on 59th Avenue between Peoria and Olive, I think) has a desert garden with the plants labeled. It was made for viewing and to help people find plants that grow well out here. You might want to visit it when you're out here. Glendale is adjacent to Peoria, so it's probably near your in-laws' new home. Ursula Miller -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Crisser8372@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:28 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Tue Jul 3 23:11:55 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardening information for low desert References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B42513B.E9E1CC15@qwest.net> Chris: In addition to the other ideas that have been suggested, if you haven't done so, take some time and peruse our website. Lots of information to found and as well as book recommendations. The site is: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ Sue Bass Master Gardener Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Wed Jul 4 00:12:22 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:12:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Message-ID: <3B425F66.52CC6A5@AuroraNow.org> I haven't seen any responses to Mishelle yet. I'd say not to worry, most of the nurseries here in the low desert stock up on tomatoes and other annuals in September. Mishelle Fresener wrote: > > Hello,. > > I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I > tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's > because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, > and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. > So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. > Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm > in the Tempe area. > > Thanks, > > Mishelle > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From georgereading@hotmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:14:31 2001 From: georgereading@hotmail.com (georgereading@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:14:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? Thank you. From leoneamerica@azwest.net Wed Jul 4 00:23:59 2001 From: leoneamerica@azwest.net (leoneamerica@azwest.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:23:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements From bevbob1962@cs.com Wed Jul 4 01:23:05 2001 From: bevbob1962@cs.com (bevbob1962@cs.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:23:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. From hsmenchaca@prodigy.net Wed Jul 4 02:58:10 2001 From: hsmenchaca@prodigy.net (hsmenchaca@prodigy.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:58:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040258.f642wAI29230@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have several Mesquite Trees in my pasture that I would like to transplant closer to my patio. I like the way they look and how they survive in the dry heat and cold weather. Please advise my on how to transplant, when to transplant, how big the trees should be , and what I should do to make they grow. Thanks for the advise, Hector Menchaca From southpawaz@home.com Wed Jul 4 03:08:53 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:08:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant References: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4288C5.C383ADDB@home.com> Hi George, I did an internet search using google.com for the phrase Argentine Giant. I found just one reference to a cactus by this name, a cactus grower who used that common name for the species Trichocereus gigantica. A google search for that species yielded no other references to a cactus by that name, so I suspect it is not a properly named cactus. Do you know the scientific name of the cactus you are asking about? georgereading@hotmail.com wrote: > > Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? > Thank you. > -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com N*G*G, W*W, R*S From JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com Wed Jul 4 05:28:39 2001 From: JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com (JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:28:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:06 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DN6I19307@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- :-) From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:53 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- Avrohom Leichtling :-) From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:04:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bulb storage (IRIS) References: <000701c10318$b6e2cd60$c459af3f@compaq> Message-ID: <3B43307D.FD0F97F6@qwest.net> --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County, AZ Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote: > I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a > newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap > them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How > cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in > the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 > degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and > beautiful when they bloom. --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice.

Linda Guy, MG
Maricopa County, AZ

Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote:

 I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and beautiful when they bloom.
--------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:06:40 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:06:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Commecial Flower Production References: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B433100.340EC3E1@qwest.net> If you have fall frosts, its doubtful that you live in the area that we are trained to serve....the low desert of Phoenix, AZ. Why not contact our counterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book? They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County leoneamerica@azwest.net wrote: > I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:11:26 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:11:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palm Problems References: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43321E.79867582@qwest.net> Your sagos, which are cycads [a remnant from the dinosaurs era], not true palms, are poorly located and would do best in a partially shady to full shade situation. They can also scorch simply in a reflective heat situation. I would not attempt to move them now, but instead would erect a shade cloth structure until the heat abates in the fall, when transplanting might be more suitable. You can look at our writeup in the palm publication [AZ 1021] under the ornamentals category at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm The discussion is on the last page. Good luck! Linda Guy, MG bevbob1962@cs.com wrote: > I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:24:11 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Artemisia Powis or Powys Castle References: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43351A.F59DF0F9@qwest.net> It is a hybrid artemisia of uncertain origin and most herb books will contain a discussion of this useful backdrop or border plant, as does the Sunset Western Garden Book. Grown principally for the foliage, it grows here in Phoenix with some supplemental water. [Wormwood and tarragon are other examples of the artemisia family.] A. absinthium [common wormwood] is the probable parent. Although it looks lacy and delicate, it's pretty sturdy and can grow to 3' high by 6' across, though I've not seen them this large in Phoenix. Linda Guy, MG JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com wrote: > I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:39:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:39:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palms with yellow leaves Message-ID: If you have not been fertilizing them with a special palm fertilizer, that could be your problem. Inadequate irrigation could also be the problem. Check out these websites for info on palm care and irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:39:08 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:39:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Growing Saguaro [Carnegiea gigantea] References: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43389C.D8F2218E@qwest.net> There is a chapter on cactus in our online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ You can use a potting mix that is 1/2 sand/grit/gravel and 1/2 commercial mix. Above all, it needs to be kept well-drained. Always dispose of the water in the container tray. Irrigation is often only necessary in the summer in the wild, so I would suggest only minimal watering in the winter, increased somewhat in the summer. When in doubt, we usually don't water. Saguaros do not get fertilized in the wild; if you feel compelled to do so, apply a diluted mixture sparingly, early in the growing season [spring]. A very good publication is available for purchase [8309] at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Unfortunately, it cannot be viewed online at this time. Another reference is an old addition of our Horticultural Communicator Jul/Aug 1999, page 16. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/hortcom.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County music613@cyburban.com wrote: > I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business > and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding > country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. > > Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" > Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). > Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still > in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in > the living room that gets the morning sun), I > would like to re-plant them into something > more appropriate. > > How can I obtain the correct soil environment > for these plants? Is there some commercial > mixture available in AZ that I could buy > and then have sent to me here? Or are there > reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable > watering schedule for these plants? > > My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any > help you could provide would be much appreciated. > > If this experiment works, my grandchildren > may have something beautiful to look at! > > Thanks- > > Avrohom Leichtling > > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:52:47 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:52:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite trees, transplanting Message-ID: <127.f4c4b2.287495cf@aol.com> Mesquite trees, because of their tap root do not transplant well. Because of the long tap root your chances would be much better to try very small plants. The most favorable time would be in late fall. They will require water at least every other day for the first month. Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on Arborculture at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From nlooper@catc.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:49 2001 From: nlooper@catc.net (nlooper@catc.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:01:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041601.f64G1nI01018@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have some plum trees that usually have lots of fruit but it is not fit to eat. They grow to a nice size but as they start to turn red they begin in one spot and it has a worm in it. Every plum is ruined. I have sprayed the trees, blooms, trunks. poured bleach around the feed line in off season, tried home remidies, commercial products to no avail. The trees are 11 years old and I have gotten one year of good fruit from them. Is there anything I can do except cut them down? I also have a year old nectarine tree that has the sap coming out of the side of the tree. Is it already infected? My grape vines have lots of grapes but they are small. The grapes are already getting ripe and the vines seem to be dying and the leaves turning brown and falling off. I guess my garding skills are very bad. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated. From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:50 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vines on stucco References: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B433DEE.BBF3EC6F@qwest.net> My experience of cat's claw was that when removed, it left pieces of its 'claws' on the masonry but a good stout hosing followed with a stiff brush was enough to remove the traces. If you are interested in vines that either twine or wrap tendrils around anything in their path, you'd be better served if you attached a trellis or similar structure on the surface in question. Options for high sun include queen's wreath, climbing bougainvilleas, trumpet vines, creeping fig [not meant for afternoon sun; also a clinger like cat's claw], certain jasmines and honeysuckles, carolina jessamine and grapes, too. You could conceivably fasten Lady Banks' Rose but it is also very wide; similarly cape plumbago could be trained up. Some of these are deciduous, some evergreen; some risk die back to roots in frost and others are more hardy. Linda Guy, MG BOB RAMSEY wrote: > I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house > exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I > have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the > stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for > painting. Is this true and are there other choices for > a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From saxdoc@home.com Wed Jul 4 16:38:03 2001 From: saxdoc@home.com (saxdoc@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:38:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041638.f64Gc3I04254@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a String Acacia tree that has been growing well. However, since the very hot weather set in, there is less growth and a series of brown pods have grown. Is more water needed? Or is it the time of year? From cliddle@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 16:50:12 2001 From: cliddle@az.rmci.net (cliddle@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:50:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041650.f64GoCI05419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I buy potato seed/eyes that will do well here in the valley? I understand the best time to plant is in Oct. I have seen great looking fields of potatoes in the farming area. Thanks for your time. From bbpotts@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 18:44:35 2001 From: bbpotts@az.rmci.net (bbpotts@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041844.f64IiYI16147@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have cantalope on vines that are of various sizes and state of developement. Do they have a chance of ripening if I keep them watered? Also should I be feeding them since they have been growing since the first to mid march? From wuerfel@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 19:21:23 2001 From: wuerfel@earthlink.net (wuerfel@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:21:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041921.f64JLNI19059@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are looking for plants to go around the west side of our pool. There is a block fence on the other side. The area is in the southwest corner of our yard (our home faces north) therefore, there is quite a bit of sun. The area we want to fill in is from two to four feet wide and about thirty feet long. We do have a salt water system and the plants could be splashed. Thanks for your help! From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:32 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:52 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcqI12799@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 23:43:02 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:43:02 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree growth slowed by heat Message-ID: <2b.17b8e5f3.28750406@aol.com> Most plants will show very little growth when the temperature is over 100 degrees. Check out this site on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jandk23@micron.net Thu Jul 5 00:59:05 2001 From: jandk23@micron.net (jandk23@micron.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:59:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050059.f650x5I17970@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Crookneck Squash I have a nice bunch of plants growing that look mighty healthy. But, the squash is growing about 2 or 3 inches (with a nice yellow color) and shriveling up and dying. Any ideas? Kevin From wyshyvanuk@home.com Thu Jul 5 01:08:49 2001 From: wyshyvanuk@home.com (wyshyvanuk@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:08:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050108.f6518nI18610@Ag.Arizona.Edu> (2) Jacaranda trees have been in the ground about 6 years. Both have developed a dark, charcoal colored stain on the bark of both the trunk and lower branches. The stain appears to be "carried" down the branches from branch intersections. Although the trees seem healthy otherwise, there is an area on the trunk that shows cracked and peeling bark about 8" by 10". Any hints on what the problem(s) may be? Thanks!! From jhci@aol.com Thu Jul 5 01:25:11 2001 From: jhci@aol.com (jhci@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:25:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please send Information on plants that would be acceptable around pools. Thank You From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:11:55 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden References: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4475AB.C75E072E@qwest.net> A great place to start is this website. Go back to the home page at http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ and look at the resources available under the Youth and Community Gardens heading. For basic horticultural information, you can review the listing of publications [use Maricopa County for the smaller urban horticulture listing] as well as the Recommended Reading link. The Index will help you locate a particular topic [pest or other problem], and finally the monthly Timely Tips columns will tell you what's best to be underway in your garden, the pests to expect and how to manage them. Late February usually marks the weekend of our annual School Garden conference. The website usually contains information on the home page as the date approaches and registration packets are available. Finally, you might be interested in our book specifically geared to someone in your situation, Success with School Gardens. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/sch-bk.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG kateejane@earthlink.net wrote: > I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:14:48 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:14:48 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Squash not setting fruit References: <200107050059.f650x5I17970@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B447658.229A1D05@qwest.net> Yes, the pollination process was inadequate and as a result the plants are able to produce only the most miniscule fruit. Pollination with a q-tip as explained in the Fruits section of the monthly Timely Tips column, should help you resolve your problem. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/july.htm Linda Guy, MG jandk23@micron.net wrote: > Crookneck Squash > > I have a nice bunch of plants growing that look mighty healthy. But, the squash is growing about 2 or 3 inches (with a nice yellow color) and shriveling up and dying. Any ideas? > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:16:56 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside landscaping References: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4476D8.FDBD3355@qwest.net> AZ 1021 for poolside landscaping is just what you're looking for. Check it out in the ornamentals section of our publications list at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Linda Guy, MG jhci@aol.com wrote: > Please send Information on plants that would be acceptable around pools. > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:19:27 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:19:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside Landscaping References: <200107041921.f64JLNI19059@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44776F.438E1529@qwest.net> Some of the publications that might be of interest to you in our listing at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm include AZ 1058 Plants for Poolside Landscapes and Q96 Salt Damage Protection. The latter is not yet online and must be ordered, but the former can be seen from a link on that page. Linda Guy, MG wuerfel@earthlink.net wrote: > We are looking for plants to go around the west side of our pool. There is a block fence on the other side. The area is in the southwest corner of our yard (our home faces north) therefore, there is quite a bit of sun. The area we want to fill in is from two to four feet wide and about thirty feet long. We do have a salt water system and the plants could be splashed. Thanks for your help! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:20:34 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:20:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Poolside landscaping References: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4477B2.AA0F019F@qwest.net> I apologize, the publication in question is AZ 1058, same page. Linda From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:22:33 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:22:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden References: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B447829.6583B488@qwest.net> I neglected to add that a terrific local resource is the Tucson Botanical Gardens which has curriculum guides for the elementary school grades. Resources like this would be found in an appendix in the back of the book I referenced. Linda Guy, MG From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:24:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:24:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig Problems References: <200107032213.f63MDdI29939@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44789D.4B287979@qwest.net> It would be helpful to us if you provided information about your cultural practices. Also, are we dealing with an ornamental fig or one of the fruiting varieties? Indoors, in a container, outdoors? Linda Guy, MG rcdemark@aol.com wrote: > I have a 2 year old Fig tree. The edges of the leaves sre turning brown on the edges. Then the leaf drops off. Is this normal? Anything I can do? It had one fig and it also droped off after it was on several weeks. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:28:10 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:28:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Potato Starts References: <200107041650.f64GoCI05419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B44797A.85832173@qwest.net> I'm not sure where to get them, as I usually just cut up my favorite potatoes from the local farmer's markets. However, I'm writing to say that I believe October could be a bit early for potatoes. Some say December is a good time, whereas our planting publication says Jan/Feb is the time to get them in the ground. The calendar is in the Vegetables section of our publications list at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#top Linda Guy, MG cliddle@az.rmci.net wrote: > Where can I buy potato seed/eyes that will do well here in the valley? I understand the best time to plant is in Oct. I have seen great looking fields of potatoes in the farming area. Thanks for your time. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 5 14:48:25 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:48:25 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden Message-ID: Welcome to Tucson! Tucson has an active school garden program. In March, Cooperative Extension helped schools put on a fund-raiser that included six school gardens on a special tour. Contact Liz Harrison (lh54321@aol.com). She is the chair of the Youth Committee for Pima County Master Gardeners. And check our web page at: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/pima/gardening Pima County's Kids' Summer School begins on July 16th at 4210 N. Campbell Ave, Tucson. Stop by and get acquainted! Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Linda Guy" >To: kateejane@earthlink.net >CC: "Arid_gardener" >Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden >Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:11:55 -0700 > >A great place to start is this website. Go back to the home page at >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ and look at the resources >available under the Youth >and Community Gardens heading. For basic horticultural information, you can >review the listing of publications [use Maricopa County for the smaller >urban >horticulture listing] as well as the Recommended Reading link. The Index >will help you locate a particular topic [pest or other problem], and >finally the >monthly Timely Tips columns will tell you what's best to be underway in >your garden, the pests to expect and how to manage them. > >Late February usually marks the weekend of our annual School Garden >conference. The website usually contains information on the home page as >the date approaches >and registration packets are available. Finally, you might be interested >in our book specifically geared to someone in your situation, Success with >School >Gardens. >http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/sch-bk.htm > >Good luck! >Linda Guy, MG > > >kateejane@earthlink.net wrote: > > > I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain >a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we >can start? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:55:19 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:55:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Water lilies and ponds References: Message-ID: <3B447FD6.366ECDFE@qwest.net> My pond faces east and receives sunlight through about 2pm. I'm not familiar with lilies that can withstand shade. Most of my reading suggests otherwise....a minimum of 6 hours up to 8 hours preferred. Perhaps members of the Greater Phoenix Pond Society would have some notions for you. http://www.accessarizona.com/community/groups/pond/ Linda Guy, MG RkBetu@aol.com wrote: > I have just built a small pond (3' x 4' x 16" deep), above ground with > small fountain. It is in shade most of the day. Are there any types of water > lilies that will bloom in shade and with moving water? Where can I find info > on stores that sell pond plants on the west side of Phoenix? > Thank you > Rocki > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 5 15:11:14 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:11:14 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant Message-ID: In Tucson, a plant being sold as "Argentinian saguaro" is Trichocereus terscheckii. See http://www.stickysituation.com/ Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Bobby >To: georgereading@hotmail.com >CC: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:08:53 -0700 > >Hi George, > >I did an internet search using google.com for the phrase Argentine >Giant. I found just one reference to a cactus by this name, a cactus >grower who used that common name for the species Trichocereus >gigantica. A google search for that species yielded no other references >to a cactus by that name, so I suspect it is not a properly named >cactus. Do you know the scientific name of the cactus you are asking >about? > >georgereading@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > Could you please send me information on the care and history of >Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called >"Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? > > Thank you. > > > >-- >Bobby >southpawaz@home.com >N*G*G, W*W, R*S >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From az4me@earthlink.net Thu Jul 5 17:37:30 2001 From: az4me@earthlink.net (az4me@earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:37:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107051737.f65HbTI12928@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I read about a new day lily, the Red Volunteer Day Lily, in a spring edition of Better Homes & Gardens. Do you think this can be grown successfully in Phoenix?. If so, when would I plant it? I've recently moved to Arizona and, to date, have planted only things that are particularly suited to arid conditions; however,I would like to plant this in a raised planter in front of our house From bayers@honors.arizona.edu Thu Jul 5 19:43:40 2001 From: bayers@honors.arizona.edu (Jim Bayers) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:43:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Stunted Corn Message-ID: Thanks for the help. What can stunt corn? The stalks were less than three feet high. I've checked the soil with a moisture meter and it showed that the water was OK. The soil isn't packed. Could PH do it? - Jim From rsigler@w3az.net Thu Jul 5 21:11:55 2001 From: rsigler@w3az.net (rsigler@w3az.net) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:11:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107052111.f65LBpI17703@Ag.Arizona.Edu> What are some good plants for erosion control on steep slopes in an arid environment? Any suggestions hardscape changes to slow erosion? From Leoneamerica-Arizona Thu Jul 5 21:39:39 2001 From: Leoneamerica-Arizona (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:39:39 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Commecial Flower Production References: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3B433100.340EC3E1@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B44DE9B.43E0E135@qwest.net> Can anyone help Bucks with this? I'm not knowledgeable about long-stemmed commercial type flowers. Thanks! Linda > leoneamerica@azwest.net wrote: > > > I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements > > > > > Dear Linda: I live in the Tolleson. I want to be able to plant flowers in the fall that will tolerate our frost season such as Larkspurs, Stocks, and so forth, I intend to sell them to local floral shops and will need something with decent length stems to put into a vase. Also someone asked me about Crape Myrtles; can they be grown from cuttings? What is the best way to spread them in your yard. I do not know what he is talking about. Thanks, Bucks From Krulich@aol.com Thu Jul 5 21:44:33 2001 From: Krulich@aol.com (Krulich@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 17:44:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question -Where do the drip emitters go? Message-ID: <27.17e37606.287639c1@aol.com> I have an olive tree that I would like to put on a drip system. The canopy is 25' to 35' in diameter. My question is where do the emitters need to go? Does the hose need to spiral around the trunk until it reaches the drip line, or should I just have one circle of emitters around the drip line. Also, how far apart should the emitters (1 gal/hour) be spaced? Thanks Tom From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 5 22:15:49 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:15:49 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Jacaranda showing a stressed condition Message-ID: <9f.17c66280.28764115@aol.com> The symptoms you describe could be caused by a stress condition, and this time of year drought stress is quite often present. Be sure that the trees get adequate deep watering. Check out this site on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From Beverlyfz@aol.com Thu Jul 5 23:13:33 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:13:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orchid Tree Message-ID: I planted some Orchid tree seeds and they came up right away and now that they are 4 inches tall they are withering and dying. I started them in quart containers to put out later in the yard. Can I save them? Beverlyf From Beverlyfz@aol.com Thu Jul 5 23:16:43 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:16:43 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orchid Tree Message-ID: <84.184c9fc6.28764f5b@aol.com> I forgot to mention that I started them in my greenhouse. Beverly From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:17:36 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:17:36 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Multiple grape varieties. References: <200106292215.f5TMFKw28727@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4511AF.E1ECC1B@qwest.net> I don't know the answer to your question, but I read through our publication on grapes and did not see any reference to problems with planting multiple varieties. You might want to order this publication [MC 59] at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Sorry I wasn't more help. Linda Guy, MG msiver@mail.maricopa.gov wrote: > Can different types of grapes like flame,perlette,thompson, be planted together in a row? Will planting them together make a difference in their taste,(sweetness)?Thank -you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:26:23 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:26:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Fig Problems References: <11b.13c918f.2875f059@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B4513BF.60A6F32B@qwest.net> --------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaf burn can sometimes arise in the low desert during the summer, but figs usually do well here. Your practices seem to be ok too. So I'm thinking that the lack of production could be a matter of an inappropriate variety selected for the region [for example, Kadota is popular in California but has a very poor track record for producing here in AZ, according to our fact sheet MC 23]. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Figs are susceptible to Texas root rot http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/diseases/root-rot.htm and also to nematodes, particularly in sandy soil http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/root-knt.htm I recommend you study this fact sheet [MC 23] further to ascertain the true nature of your problem. You can sometimes find a notebook of our pubs in the public library reference section, or order it on the publications page [link provided above]. Good luck, Linda RCDeMark@aol.com wrote: > I live in the Foothills Club West area in Ahwatukee. This fig is > planted on > the East side of the house. Between the 2 story house and a retaining > wall. > It is shaded in the afternoons. It is a fruiting variety. I deep > water it > in the summer time every 15 days. When it cools off then I water it > once a > month. It does not receive any other water unless it rains. It is fed > when I > fed the fruit trees. I have been fighting an infestation of Red > Spider Mites > on some vegetables. I do not see them on the under sides of the > leaves. I > also have a lot of White Flies. They do not seem to be real heavy on > the fig > tree. The fertilizer is a tree and shrub 13-7-7 with trace elements. > > > --------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leaf burn can sometimes arise in the low desert during the summer, but figs usually do well here. Your practices seem to be ok too. So I'm thinking that the lack of production could be a matter of an inappropriate variety selected for the region [for example, Kadota is popular in California but has a very poor track record for producing here in AZ, according to our fact sheet MC 23]. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm

Figs are susceptible to Texas root rot
http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/diseases/root-rot.htm
and also to nematodes, particularly in sandy soil
http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/root-knt.htm

I recommend you study this fact sheet [MC 23] further to ascertain the true nature of your problem. You can sometimes find a notebook of our pubs in the public library reference section, or order it on the publications page [link provided above].

Good luck,
Linda

RCDeMark@aol.com wrote:

 I live in the Foothills Club West area in Ahwatukee.  This fig is planted on
the East side of the house.  Between the 2 story house and a retaining wall.
It is shaded in the afternoons.  It is a fruiting variety.  I deep water it
in the summer time every 15 days.  When it cools off then I water it once a
month. It does not receive any other water unless it rains.  It is fed when I
fed the fruit trees.  I have been fighting an infestation of Red Spider Mites
on some vegetables.  I do not see them on the under sides of the leaves.  I
also have a lot of White Flies.  They do not seem to be real heavy on the fig
tree.  The fertilizer is a tree and shrub 13-7-7 with trace elements.
 
 
 
--------------08495E7E760762F2A5A0C306-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 01:35:01 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:35:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grapes Too Small References: <200107041601.f64G1nI01018@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4515C5.B88E6A64@qwest.net> You may be interested in our publication on backyard grapes [MC 59]. It has a discussion on this specific problem as well as good advice on many other cultivation practices. It can be ordered at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm The suggestions are for next year. Basically you want to thin out the berries within each cluster, rather than reducing the number of clusters, to improve size. The pub does a better job of explaining several ways to do this. I've never grown plums in Phoenix and can only suggest that you peruse the fruit trees chapter of the online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ Good luck! Linda Guy, MG nlooper@catc.net wrote: > I have some plum trees that usually have lots of fruit but it is not fit to eat. They grow to a nice size but as they start to turn red they begin in one spot and it has a worm in it. Every plum is ruined. I have sprayed the trees, blooms, trunks. poured bleach around the feed line in off season, tried home remidies, commercial products to no avail. The trees are 11 years old and I have gotten one year of good fruit from them. Is there anything I can do except cut them down? I also have a year old nectarine tree that has the sap coming out of the side of the tree. Is it already infected? > My grape vines have lots of grapes but they are small. The grapes are already getting ripe and the vines seem to be dying and the leaves turning brown and falling off. > I guess my garding skills are very bad. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Fri Jul 6 02:38:15 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 19:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Message-ID: <3B452497.77113A5E@qwest.net> Here is another response received on your question about the transplanted aloes: Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:29:57 -0400 From: "mmittelstaedt@earthlink.net" To: "sjbass@qwest.net" I'd dig those bad boys up and put them in pots until they establish themselves, then move them to a place where they can get filtered shade. In pots, they will need frequent watering - don't put them in full sun. Morning sun will work best until they have gotten over transplant shock. Miracle Gro can help transplant shock. Aloes will cook and die in full sun. Be warned ! Original Message: ----------------- From: Sue Bass sjbass@qwest.net Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:33:12 -0700 To: stevebethparker@kna.to, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes Aloes prefer afternoon shade and thrive in filtered shade of high canopy trees. Given that the aloe you transplanted were growing in complete shade I would suspect that their new home is quite a shock to them. As for irrigation, after transplanting, the root area of the plant needs to be kept moist but not wet until new root development becomes established. Watering every other day is probably too much. Even though the surface of the soil may appear dry, the root area is probably still moist. Check the soil moisture at rooting depth before watering to avoid over-wet soils. The best rule of thumb for irrigating desert plants is Don't over-irrigate at any time - if in doubt, don't. Most desert plants are more tolerant of too little soil moisture than too much. Sue Bass Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Jul 6 16:42:07 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:42:07 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drip Systems, location of drippers Message-ID: <41.db990f1.2877445f@aol.com> The drippers on your irrigation system should be located at the drip line in a circle around your olive tree and I would suggest locating them four feet apart, which means that 20 drippers are required. Lets start out with the amount of water that your 25 foot diameter olive tree requires in summer. Cooperative Extension Fact Sheet MC 53 states that an olive tree with a 25 crown diameter requires 30.6 to 64.3 gallons of water per day in summer. Using the larger number, the amount of water required to water every two weeks is 900 gallons. Dividing the 900 gallons by the number of drippers (20) equals 45 gallons for each dripper. You must use adjustable drippers that adjust from one to ten gallons per hour. Setting the maximum opening on the dripper would require that the system run for 4.5 hours. Your soil may not absorb the water that fast which means that you would cut back on each dripper and run for a longer time. Check out the info on irrigation at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From pagooding@hotmail.com Fri Jul 6 18:02:52 2001 From: pagooding@hotmail.com (pagooding@hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:02:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- From umiller@azdps.com Fri Jul 6 18:38:46 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:38:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From colbeboy@webtv.net Fri Jul 6 19:45:48 2001 From: colbeboy@webtv.net (colbeboy@webtv.net) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:45:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107061945.f66JjmI20576@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have three raised bed gardens that I plan to grow vegetables in and am looking for a source of organic compost to fill the beds with and grow the vegetables in. (as recommended by "Dave the Garden guy" in his desert gardening book.The beds are 4'by6'by2' each and empty. *How much compost will I need to fill the beds? *Where can I get organic compost? Any other suggestions? Thanks- Betsy From steve.sheard@motorola.com Fri Jul 6 19:49:06 2001 From: steve.sheard@motorola.com (Stephen Sheard) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:49:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Geraniums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear All, I live in South Tempe. My Geraniums are 7 years old in this house and were 12 years old in my previous house. I have them on the North side of the house in full shade with good drainage. They are fantastic. I shape them and feed them miracle grow once a month (I keep them about 18" tall x 24"wide). They get 2 minutes of water twice a day - the same as my hanging baskets. My son took cutting from mine, put them in his yard in a similar location and they are going crazy as well. Great for YEAR ROUND color. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:39 AM To: pagooding@hotmail.com; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Fri Jul 6 19:58:53 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107061802.f66I2qI05289@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B46187D.4FC8B097@email.sps.mot.com> The most common mistake I see on geraniums is, people over water them. If the leaves are turning yellow, then dieing, that is most likely your problem. Geraniums like it on the dry side. This time of year, in extreme heat they prefer a little afternoon shade as well, especially if they are in containers. As for your Dichondra, I have no idea...someone else will have to help you with that one :) pagooding@hotmail.com wrote: > 2 questions: > > Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! > > Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From umiller@azdps.com Fri Jul 6 21:34:51 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 14:34:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] RE: Geraniums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve - This is great. I envy you because I love geraniums and would like having them year-round. I think that the full shade is the trick, like the man who moves his into the shade of the citrus tree each year. My problem is that there is no spot in my yard that has full shade, so the poor things just give up. But I have noticed that the ones that get more shade survive longer into the summer. No-Shade Ursula -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Sheard [mailto:steve.sheard@motorola.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:49 PM To: Ursula Miller; Arid Gardener; pagooding@hotmail.com Subject: Geraniums Dear All, I live in South Tempe. My Geraniums are 7 years old in this house and were 12 years old in my previous house. I have them on the North side of the house in full shade with good drainage. They are fantastic. I shape them and feed them miracle grow once a month (I keep them about 18" tall x 24"wide). They get 2 minutes of water twice a day - the same as my hanging baskets. My son took cutting from mine, put them in his yard in a similar location and they are going crazy as well. Great for YEAR ROUND color. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:39 AM To: pagooding@hotmail.com; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page My geraniums died, too, as they did all the previous summers. The heat gets to them. I've not had any luck in keeping geraniums alive through the summer - in pots or in the ground. Someone told me that in the summer he transplants them to an area under a citrus tree where they get some shade and then transplants them back to the sunny area for the rest of the year. I haven't tried that but have basically taken the notion that - in my case - they are annuals that die in the summer and will have to be replaced with new plants at other times of the year. So I would assume that the last few days of excessive heat are probably the cuprits in your case, too. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pagooding@hotmail.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:03 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page 2 questions: Geraniums--my geraniums are dying, help! Dichondra--we had a beautiful patch of dichondra--but it just disappeared--any suggestions.---- _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From carefreedentons@aol.com Sat Jul 7 21:27:11 2001 From: carefreedentons@aol.com (carefreedentons@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:27:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107072127.f67LRBI25828@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our Mesquite tree pods usually appear to have small insect holes. What are the insects? Is it safe to make mesquite meal from these pods? From ppatterson@ncslink.com Sat Jul 7 23:48:13 2001 From: ppatterson@ncslink.com (ppatterson@ncslink.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 16:48:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107072348.f67NmDI05476@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Why are my vinca wilting & then dying? My neighbor and I are having the same problem. We are wondering if it could do with planting a little later than usual - in early May. Someone else told her that you can't plant vinca in the same pot as petunias without changing the soil. Is this possible? Any suggestions on flowers that can take a lot of sun and heat during the summer? Thanks for your help. From engstromw@aol.com Sun Jul 8 00:10:33 2001 From: engstromw@aol.com (engstromw@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:10:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. From DAnde25974@aol.com Sun Jul 8 04:41:53 2001 From: DAnde25974@aol.com (DAnde25974@aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 21:41:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107080441.f684frI24732@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can oleanders be used in the compost pile? Can the trimmings be mulched? From steve.sheard@motorola.com Sun Jul 8 12:39:27 2001 From: steve.sheard@motorola.com (Stephen Sheard) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 05:39:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vinca & Petunias. In-Reply-To: <200107072348.f67NmDI05476@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: Vinca suffer from over watering, so that may be the problem. Last year I wiped our 100 plants by not cutting back the watering soon enough after planting. I think there is also a fungus called "dampening off" that effects petunias and vinca. I have found that if I plant using "Capstan" - a fungicide, I can rotate my petunias and vinca. Summer flowers - Vinca do great, once they are established. This year I am trying Zinnia in one bed, but they are not doing to well. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of ppatterson@ncslink.com Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 4:48 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Why are my vinca wilting & then dying? My neighbor and I are having the same problem. We are wondering if it could do with planting a little later than usual - in early May. Someone else told her that you can't plant vinca in the same pot as petunias without changing the soil. Is this possible? Any suggestions on flowers that can take a lot of sun and heat during the summer? Thanks for your help. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lnlwood@aol.com Sun Jul 8 14:54:29 2001 From: lnlwood@aol.com (lnlwood@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 07:54:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081454.f68EsTI01431@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My peach tree is in its third year. The peaches are still green and like rocks. I'd like to avoid this problem next year. What am I doing wrong? From vernpro@msn.com Sun Jul 8 19:22:24 2001 From: vernpro@msn.com (vernpro@msn.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:22:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081922.f68JMOI20490@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I planted a AZALIA.plant and it was doing fine and growing to three.feet and just died. From raldag@aol.com Sun Jul 8 19:40:27 2001 From: raldag@aol.com (raldag@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:40:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107081940.f68JeRI21656@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Southern Magnolia. We have a 30 ft southern magnolia with leaves that suggest Mild Chlorosis: leaves are pale green or yellowish green between the veins of normal green. In addition to applying chelated iron, is there any other treatments recommended? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:03:30 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:03:30 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Magnolia Trees Message-ID: <121.15e014e.287a1692@aol.com> Magnolias prefer a slightly acid soil, so the addition of soil sulfur and an organic mulch covering the root zone will be helpful in addition to the iron chelates in treating chlorosis. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From JeanSciFi@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:04:13 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:04:13 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Peaches Message-ID: --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, What kind of peaches? I have Bananza dwarf peaches and they were wonderful this year. If you live in the lower desert you have to select a peach variety with low chilling hour requirements. Mine were ripe before the really hot weather. You might also look at your watering practices. JeanSciFi Master Gardener Apache Junction, AZ --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

What kind of peaches?  I have Bananza dwarf peaches and they were wonderful
this year. If you live in the lower desert you have to select a peach variety
with low chilling hour requirements.  Mine were ripe before the really hot
weather.  You might also look at your watering practices.

JeanSciFi
Master Gardener
Apache Junction, AZ --part1_e.f49cb0f.287a16bd_boundary-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 8 20:11:19 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 16:11:19 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Azaleas Message-ID: <114.15aedc7.287a1867@aol.com> If you live in the low desert azalias are not well adapted to our high heat in summer, alkaline soil and low humidity. Why not plant one of the many flowering plants that do well here. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From vedaepa@aol.com Sun Jul 8 21:28:33 2001 From: vedaepa@aol.com (vedaepa@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:28:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107082128.f68LSXI29410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I live in McDowall Mtn. Ranch. Last July, I planted a Chilean Mesquitr from a 24-inch box in my back yard Bermuda grass Lawn. It lost all leaves over the winter. In the Spring it lost many of its small branches. They seemed to just dry up and snap off. Now in July 2001, it shows no new growth. It gets lawn water (12 minutes daily) and deep watering twice a week (two "fountain" emmiters for two hours each watering). Why no growth????? Thanks for your help. From vedaepa@aol.com Sun Jul 8 21:29:42 2001 From: vedaepa@aol.com (vedaepa@aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:29:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107082129.f68LTgI29487@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I live in McDowall Mtn. Ranch. Last July, I planted a Chilean Mesquitr from a 24-inch box in my back yard Bermuda grass Lawn. It lost all leaves over the winter. In the Spring it lost many of its small branches. They seemed to just dry up and snap off. Now in July 2001, it shows no new growth. It gets lawn water (12 minutes daily) and deep watering twice a week (two "fountain" emmiters for two hours each watering). Why no growth????? Thanks for your help. From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 9 00:03:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:03:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Converting Bermuda Lawn References: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B48F4BB.74D7BA06@qwest.net> My suggestion to you is to water everything again very thoroughly to see if what you believe is 'dead' is simply dormant. You'd be amazed at bermuda's resilience. I watered and resprayed with a systemic herbicide three times when we converted our entire front yard to xeriscape. We did this process over two months or so. It seems like an oxymoron, but you have to keep tending the bermuda to ascertain whether you've truly done the job of eradicating it. My neighbors never believe me until the bermuda comes up the following year after the yard has been relandscaped and covered with granite! After killing the turf, we rototilled and raked as much of the stolons, rhizomes, as we could just to be on the safe side. I probably watered the whole yard again, just to be sure! Linda Guy, MG engstromw@aol.com wrote: > A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 9 00:06:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 17:06:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oleanders in Compost References: <200107080441.f684frI24732@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B48F59C.34B38006@qwest.net> At past MG Conferences, I was taught to keep oleanders and salt cedars out of the compost. Most purists will say 'no'; I don't use them myself, because I have plenty of alternate material. However, at one time a colleague showed me some scientific study that suggested that oleander shouldn't be the problem everyone thinks it is. I don't like messing with something that usually causes a skin reaction at a minimum, so I personally avoid it. Linda Guy, MG DAnde25974@aol.com wrote: > Can oleanders be used in the compost pile? Can the trimmings be mulched? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From thomas18@home.com Mon Jul 9 01:30:24 2001 From: thomas18@home.com (thomas18@home.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:30:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107090130.f691UOI15228@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are having a few problems with our landscaping and we need help: 1. Recently lost two trees (Chinese Elm) to what I believe is root rot. They broke easily right at ground level. One tree was 5yrs old the other 2yrs old. Watering schedule was 3 times/ week for about 40 min on drip irrigation with spider emitters. 2. Our lawn is in its second summer and there are many dead areas. Water 3x/ wk for 30 min and fertilized. 3. We have two Ash (majestic?) Trees and we are starting to see brown at the ends of the leaves and a pattern in the bark that looks like an oil stain ( if that makes sense)? Please advise, if you cannot offer in depth advice please send reccomendations for people I should contact to help. Thank you very much for your time. Tom From jkandell@email.arizona.edu Mon Jul 9 04:47:23 2001 From: jkandell@email.arizona.edu (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 21:47:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ants eating yard long beans In-Reply-To: <3B48F59C.34B38006@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B1F829E00013240@phobos.email.Arizona.EDU> I had read that yard long beans don't have many enemies. But mine are being eaten by red ants. They seem to like to hoard up to the joints and start sucking and in a few days the stem breaks. They are avoiding the cantelope a few inches away. Any thoughts on why they are going for it? (Is the juice sweet?) How to get rid of them? From jnknavarro@cs.com Mon Jul 9 15:59:12 2001 From: jnknavarro@cs.com (jnknavarro@cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:59:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Something is eating the leaves of one basil plants and not touching the other 2 basil plants nearby. I have looked for critters day and night and not found any. Other than the pea-size to larger holes in the leaves, the plant seems healthy. I tried spraying a soapy solution to no avail. I am a beginner with this and avoiding chemical sprays, etc. Do you have any hints? Thank you! From s2@AuroraNow.org Mon Jul 9 16:16:13 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: bugs on your basil References: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B49D8CD.2FAF7FE7@AuroraNow.org> I used to have this problem with basil in my old garden in Michigan. I personally bought "ladybug lures" to bring in beneficials and within two weeks, the problem was gone and the basil recovered. As long as there is a 'food supply' for the beneficials, they'll stick around. (If the 'food supply' is gone your basil isn't being eaten anymore, I suppose it doesn't matter if insects leave) -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 9 21:47:33 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:47:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite tree dying Message-ID: <94.168b37f0.287b8075@aol.com> The mesquite trees here in the low desert are deciduous and lose their leaves unless we have a very warm winter. I suspect that the dieback that you are having is due to over watering. If you deep watered once every two to three weeks it would be adequate since the tree is in turf and it gets watered every day. Check out this site on irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From southpawaz@home.com Mon Jul 9 22:42:35 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 15:42:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Removal of dead bermuda References: <200107080010.f680AXI07031@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4A335B.DE125157@home.com> Hi, I did this last year, roundup 2 times two weeks apart killed the grass pretty well, with some spot follow up. As an alternate to the suggestion you received from Linda, to remove the dead bermuda grass, I used a "Hula Hoe" to remove the grass and top layer of dirt (between a half inch to an inch), but that was a lot of work. Watering first made it easier. Depending on how much area of dead turf you have you might want to rent a sod cutter which would do the trick quite quickly but is not a real easy machine to use. I have had less than 5% of the bermuda return and I have spot sprayed that. engstromw@aol.com wrote: > > A while ago, I asked about killing Bermuda Grass. One of the master gardeners replied and gave specific directions. I now have an yard full of dead, yellow grass and want to know the best way to remove it before replacing it with gravel. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com From ThiedingM@aol.com Mon Jul 9 22:48:49 2001 From: ThiedingM@aol.com (ThiedingM@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:48:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107092248.f69MmnF04585@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Which of these trees would be best suited to a medium size, concrete-based patio, giving good shade, be evergreen, minimal to no litter, direct sun, 15 to 20 feet high, and low maintenance: Cascalote (Caesalpinia cacalaco), Quercus ilex, Ficus benjamina nitida, Brazil pepper tree, or any other you might suggest. Thank you. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 9 22:58:01 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:58:01 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree and turf problems Message-ID: <92.17291807.287b90f9@aol.com> Tom, You haven't given us enough symptoms to be able to diagnos a precise problem, however I suspect that improper irrigation is the cause of your tree problems. The shallow frequent watering does not encourage deep rooting, allows the salt which remains when the water evaporates to stay in the root zone and encourages the fungi which cause root rot. Both the elm and the ash are very sensitive to salt in the root zone. It is not uncommon for the Chinese elms to break off in a strong wind especially if the crowns have not been thinned. If you suspect Texas Root Rot the only positive way to identify the rot is to take a root sample to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab examination. Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on irrigation at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html You appear to be watering your turf adequately but to be sure, after irrigation insert a screwdriver with an 8 inch blade into the ground in several places and especially where the grass is dying. It will go easily to the depth that the water has penetrated. If you are not getting this kind of penetration then you need to give the turf more water. Another way to check the amount of water that is being applied is is to set out several small cans ( tuna fish cans or similiar) and measure the water applied after irrigation. Your newspaper on the weather page gives the amount of water that your turf needs. Bermuda grass needs to be fertilized monthly during the growing season. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From murpass@earthlink.net Mon Jul 9 23:24:11 2001 From: murpass@earthlink.net (Richard Foster) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 16:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite question Message-ID: <200107092326.QAA14992@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> My mesquite tree, about eight years old, is not growing well, especially on its west-facing side. I am watering it deeply ‹ eight hours overnight once a week with a soaker hose spread twice around the drip line. With a long stick, I check the soil after finishing watering, and the moisture goes down from two to two-and-a-half feet. The tree puts out new growth, but the leaves on the established branches drop their individual petals. Sometime the whole leaf just turns yellow, then brown, then drops off. This condition is always worst on the tree's west-facing side. Also, that side has not grown like the rest of the tree. It has fewer branches, and the ones it has are shorter than those on the other sides. It makes the tree look lop-sided. I have received a variety of conflicting opinions on what it needs, but nothing I've tried seems to help the problem. I hope you can help me salvage this tree. Thank you for your help. Carol Foster From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 10 00:05:23 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:05:23 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Patio tree Message-ID: <93.cf247a7.287ba0c3@aol.com> I'll give you the negatives on the different trees and you make a selection. Brazilian Pepper is susceptable to Texas Root Rot and Verticilium wilt and grows to 30 feet tall. Quercus ilex grows to 60 feet tall. Cascalote has thorns, has beautiful yellow flowers, not as much shade as the other trees. Ficus benjamina is not suitable for full sun, is very frost tender and grows to 30 feet tall. Ficus microcarpa nitida is frost tender but not as much as the benjamina, would benefit with some PM shade, grows to 20 feet tall. Must be protected from frosts for a year or two after planting. If the landscape is desert I would opt for the Cascolote if the thorns were not a problem, if it were not desert than my choice would be the Ficus nitida Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From kdjeal@cs.com Tue Jul 10 00:24:29 2001 From: kdjeal@cs.com (kdjeal@cs.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:24:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100024.f6A0OTF18130@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have an established lime tree (planted four years ago) that has produced heavily for three years. One month ago while covered in newly set fruit, first one of the major limbs rapidly died followed soon after by the other. The rootstock appears to be intact and has now thrown up shoots. What could be the cause? I am on the SRP flood irrigation system and I do not think that yhe tree became particularly stressed. Have I some infestation and would it be safe to plant another lime in the same location? On one side I have an orange tree and on the other side a lemon. Both of these are healthy and are covered in fruit. From flyingfroggy@juno.com Tue Jul 10 02:52:30 2001 From: flyingfroggy@juno.com (flyingfroggy@juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:52:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100252.f6A2qUF01811@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Is it possible to start a new Mexican (Red) Bird of Paradise plant from a >cutting? How would I do this? Is it possible to grow them from seeds? > From r.bahto@att.net Tue Jul 10 06:18:59 2001 From: r.bahto@att.net (r.bahto@att.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:18:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107100618.f6A6IxF24619@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Are there any other types of bamboo that will grow in the Phoenix area (other than the two listed on this website - Bambusa oldhami and Phyllostachys aurea)? From bills@dlcresources.com Tue Jul 10 11:23:50 2001 From: bills@dlcresources.com (bills@dlcresources.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 04:23:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107101123.f6ABNoF20124@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I'm looking for some info on the desert museum palo verde. I have a property with hundreds of them. They seem to have a tendency to snap off at ground level. I would like to plant another variety of palo verde. What do you recommend? The trees are all in rows so it would have to be a very close match. From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 10 14:20:35 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:20:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Basil Leaf Damage References: <200107091559.f69FxCF17944@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4B0F33.8708F19D@qwest.net> Pea-sized holes are most probably cutter bees, a beneficial pollinator. They do, however, inflict cosmetic damage to plants, and I'm not sure I can explain why one basil plant would be favored over the others, except that they prefer a particular variety. You can check out what their damage looks like and compare it to yours in the entomology chapter of the Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/entomology/landscape.html#foliage Linda Guy, MG jnknavarro@cs.com wrote: > Something is eating the leaves of one basil plants and not touching the other 2 basil plants nearby. I have looked for critters day and night and not found any. Other than the pea-size to larger holes in the leaves, the plant seems healthy. I tried spraying a soapy solution to no avail. I am a beginner with this and avoiding chemical sprays, etc. Do you have any hints? Thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From JeanSciFi@aol.com Tue Jul 10 16:04:27 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:04:27 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Peaches Message-ID: <12c.12ba261.287c818b@aol.com> --part1_12c.12ba261.287c818b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The Elberta is not on the list of peaches recommended for the low desert. I checked Sunset's Western Gardener book and see that none of the Elberta varieties are listed for Sunset's Zone 13 for this area. The county extension office puts out a brochure called Deciduous Fruit & Nuts for the Low Desert. It lists and gives a short description of a number of peaches that do well here. All have chilling hour needs of 300 or less hours, mine has about 250 winter chilling hours required. Watch also the ripening time, since our summer heat would cook the fruit. Like my peaches were ripe in June. I prefer a freestone over a clingstone. By the way there is no problem with peach curl disease in the valley, it is great not to spray the tree. You do have to watch overwatering, especially during the hot summer because you could trigger Texas Root rot disease. You can get the bulletin I mentioned above from the Maricopa County Extension Office at 4341 E. Broadway Road, Phoenix, AZ 85040. I don't know if this Fact Sheet: MC 90 is available on line, probably not. JeanSciFi Master Gardener Apache Junction, AZ --part1_12c.12ba261.287c818b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

The Elberta is not on the list of peaches recommended for the low desert.  I
checked Sunset's Western Gardener book and see that none of the Elberta
varieties are listed for Sunset's Zone 13 for this area.  The county
extension office puts out a brochure called Deciduous Fruit & Nuts for the
Low Desert.  It lists and gives a short description of a number of peaches
that do well here.  All have chilling hour needs of 300 or less hours, mine
has about 250 winter chilling hours required.  Watch also the ripening time,
since our summer heat would cook the fruit.  Like my peaches were ripe in
June.  I prefer a freestone over a clingstone.  By the way there is no
problem with peach curl disease in the valley, it is great not to spray the
tree.  You do have to watch overwatering, especially during the hot summer
because you could trigger Texas Root rot disease.

You can get the bulletin I mentioned above from the Maricopa County Extension
Office at 4341 E. Broadway Road, Phoenix, AZ 85040.  I don't know if this
Fact Sheet: MC 90 is available on line, probably not.  

JeanSciFi
Master Gardener
Apache Junction, AZ --part1_12c.12ba261.287c818b_boundary-- From JeanSciFi@aol.com Tue Jul 10 16:30:04 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:30:04 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: I have Bouganvilla questions Message-ID: <113.17132b2.287c878c@aol.com> --part1_113.17132b2.287c878c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Bouganvilla thrive on neglect here in the low desert of Phoenix. If you water them too much you will get nice foliage but little in the way of blooms; I believe this is true also of using fertilizer on them. This plant, like most, needs good drainage. If you are not sure if the soil is drying out between watering you could go to a nursery and buy one of those moisture meters on about an eight inch probe. My potting soil dries out on top quickly but remains wet a few inches down. I don't know about your area but we have to watch for salts building up in the root zones so every once in a while it is good to really water long and slow to wash the salts out of the planter. Plants in pots sometimes suffer from problems when the roots get too hot. I imagine you know that the color you see is not from the flowers but from brackets that enclose the insignificant flower. Bougainvillea are quite drought tolerant here. You might contact your County Extension Office in TX for information more suitable for your location. JeanSciFi Master Gardener Apache Junction, AZ --part1_113.17132b2.287c878c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

Bouganvilla thrive on neglect here in the low desert of Phoenix.  If you
water them too much you will get nice foliage but little in the way of
blooms; I believe this is true also of using fertilizer on them.  This plant,
like most, needs good drainage. If you are not sure if the soil is drying out
between watering you could go to a nursery and buy one of those moisture
meters on about an eight inch probe. My potting soil dries out on top quickly
but remains wet a few inches down.

I don't know about your area but we have to watch for salts building up in
the root zones so every once in a while it is good to really water long and
slow to wash the salts out of the planter. Plants in pots sometimes suffer
from problems when the roots get too hot. I imagine you know that the color
you see is not from the flowers but from brackets that enclose the
insignificant flower.  Bougainvillea are quite drought tolerant here.  You
might contact your County Extension Office in TX for information more
suitable for your location.

JeanSciFi
Master Gardener
Apache Junction, AZ --part1_113.17132b2.287c878c_boundary-- From gg62609@alltel.net Tue Jul 10 17:48:56 2001 From: gg62609@alltel.net (gg62609@alltel.net) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:48:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107101748.f6AHmuF03947@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I cannot find a website that will tell me the parts of a tree. Plants, I can find, but not the tree. Can you help me? Thanks From Bien15@home.com Tue Jul 10 19:38:57 2001 From: Bien15@home.com (Bien15@home.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:38:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107101938.f6AJcvF22296@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My husband and I just purchased an older house at South Mountain. The landscape is Desert but it has overgrown very badly. I would like to keep it desert landscape and use only trees and plants that are native to Arizona. Could you please tell me where I can get information on these types of plants and the use of them in landscapeing and their care and upkeep. I have several varieties of cacti, and a few bushes. I would like at least a couple of trees. Thank you. Chris Corcoran From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 10 20:00:03 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:00:03 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree Anatomy Message-ID: Try this site (includes an illustration): http://www.ci.huntsville.al.us/Landscape/Trees/UFSubpageBiolAnat.htm Dr. Shigo's book and slides on tree anatomy are also available. See http://www.chesco.com/~treeman/ANATOMY.html Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: gg62609@alltel.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:48:56 -0700 (MST) > >I cannot find a website that will tell me the parts of a tree. Plants, I >can find, but not the tree. Can you help me? Thanks > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 10 20:17:25 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:17:25 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Desert, Native Trees Message-ID: "Desert Trees" published by the Arizona Native Plant Society is a good place to start. This booklet is often available at nurseries for $2. It contains 54 trees tested to perform well in the desert; 22 are native to the Sonoran and Chihuahuan desert regions. (I can send you the list of 22 if you can't locate the booklet). Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Bien15@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:38:57 -0700 (MST) > >My husband and I just purchased an older house at South Mountain. The >landscape is Desert but it has overgrown very badly. I would like to keep >it desert landscape and use only trees and plants that are native to >Arizona. > >Could you please tell me where I can get information on these types of >plants and the use of them in landscapeing and their care and upkeep. I >have several varieties of cacti, and a few bushes. I would like at least a >couple of trees. > >Thank you. > >Chris Corcoran > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 10 23:31:25 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:31:25 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Red Bird of Paradise, starting from cuttings and or seed Message-ID: <18.f18de07.287cea4d@aol.com> The Master Gardener Manual has a chapter on Plant Propagation and is available at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/index.html I have lots of volanteers come up under my red birds so starting from seed should be easy. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 10 23:31:24 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:31:24 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: removing Bermuda Message-ID: <8a.93327dc.287cea4c@aol.com> Larry, The only way that I know of for removing bermuda from a tall fescue lawn is to kill it all and start over. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 10 23:32:01 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:32:01 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite question Message-ID: <23.e2817fa.287cea71@aol.com> Carol, Your Mesquite appears to be getting adequate water how ever the tree would be better off if deep watered every two weeks instead of every week. I'll need more info before I can give you more advice. Is there caliche in the area that might be affecting the tree? Has there been any construction where the roots have been damaged on the west side of the tree? Have any chemicals or weed killers been applied near the west side of the tree? Has there been a fertilizer spill on the west side of the tree? I'll await your reply. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From sonja.branch@asu.edu Tue Jul 10 23:41:18 2001 From: sonja.branch@asu.edu (sonja.branch@asu.edu) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:41:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107102341.f6ANfIF03646@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have read recently that corn gluten meal is used in some parts of the country as an organic herbicide, and would like to try it out. Does anyone know where in the Phoenix-area I can purchase the stuff? Has anyone tried it out on the kind of weeds we get around here? Anyone know of any drawbacks to this product? My yard is a bit too big to do by hand; a goat would be nice, but the neighbors might object--any other ideas on effective organic weed control? From Beverlyfz@aol.com Wed Jul 11 00:44:37 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:37 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Crickets Message-ID: <10d.286991e.287cfb75@aol.com> I am going to attempt to get rid of crickets in my greenhouse with a remedy from Dave Owens book, "Extreme Gardening", Recipe #5 on page 227. It is equal amounts of Arm & Hammer laundry detergent and powdered sugar. What I want to know is if any powdered laundry detergent will do or does it have to be that kind? What is the useful ingredient in that one? I have toads and geckos in there and this concoction is supposed to be safe around them. Thx for your help. Beverly Fizzell From s2@AuroraNow.org Wed Jul 11 01:00:08 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:00:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Crickets References: <10d.286991e.287cfb75@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B4BA518.D7F27BCE@AuroraNow.org> I would think the unique ingredient in an Arm & Hammer product would be baking soda, which other laundry soaps wouldn't have. Arm & Hammer products are usually milder as well (less phosphates, etc). It also seems a little conflicting to want to get rid of the crickets if you want to keep your geckos and toads... after all, they're probably there because the cricket population is keeping them supplied with lunch and dinner to begin with. just my logical reasoning. I'm not a master gardener. -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From music613@lanline.com Wed Jul 11 02:04:30 2001 From: music613@lanline.com (Avrohom Leichtling) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:04:30 -0400 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Where can I get it? How can it be sent to NY? Message-ID: <3B4BB42E.3768CAC1@lanline.com> Hi- I wrote a week or so ago about a pair of saguaros that I brought back to NY with me from a recent trip to Tucson. I can't find the proper soil mixture or types here that might be appropriate for these cacti. I suspect NY potting soils might not be sufficiently alkaline enough - even mixed with gravel and sand. Would it be possible for you to direct me to a local source of appropriate soil mixtures that I could purchase and then have shipped to NY? I can't imagine needing more than 10lbs - probably half that amount would do for the next year or so. Is there a local on-line source that I could tap into? Thanks- Avrohom Leichtling From oriley@wescap.com Wed Jul 11 03:00:16 2001 From: oriley@wescap.com (oriley@wescap.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:00:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107110300.f6B30GF26275@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I had roots and soil from a ficus tree and cassia plant analyzed by the Extension Service, through the Tucson facility, and was told both had Texas Root rot. I will be digging up the tree, three cassia plants, Plumbago and yellow bird of paradise and would like to receive a list of trees/shrubs that can be planted in the same area. I understand I can download the list but am unable to find it under your publications list. Please advise the information I need to input to find this list. Also, in digging up the tree and shrubs I realize I will not get all the root system. However, am I save to assume the remaining roots will rot and not affect other shrubs and trees. From cheeseheads12@aol.com Wed Jul 11 03:54:27 2001 From: cheeseheads12@aol.com (cheeseheads12@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:54:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107110354.f6B3sRF01157@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a large saguaro located by my pool and the last couple of years it has been fading its dark green color. There is no drip system going to it but the color is really worying me. It also seems to have a chocolate streek running up one of the spines. I would greately appreciate any info you can give me. thanks From cheeseheads12@aol.com Wed Jul 11 03:55:06 2001 From: cheeseheads12@aol.com (cheeseheads12@aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:55:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107110355.f6B3t6F01246@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a large saguaro located by my pool and the last couple of years it has been fading its dark green color. There is no drip system going to it but the color is really worying me. It also seems to have a chocolate streek running up one of the spines. I would greately appreciate any info you can give me. thanks Ruth Groff From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 14:44:32 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:44:32 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Crickets References: <10d.286991e.287cfb75@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B4C6650.D8928BB1@qwest.net> Just curious, but does the author have his own website for you to try and ask him directly? Also, what about A&H's own consumer hotline which is on the box 1-800-524-1328? I'd agree with Sherryl that baking soda is one of the key components; if this is the case, why not just use baking soda? Another good question for Mr. Owens. Linda Guy, MG Beverlyfz@aol.com wrote: > I am going to attempt to get rid of crickets in my greenhouse with a remedy > from Dave Owens book, "Extreme Gardening", Recipe #5 on page 227. It is > equal amounts of Arm & Hammer laundry detergent and powdered sugar. What I > want to know is if any powdered laundry detergent will do or does it have to > be that kind? What is the useful ingredient in that one? I have toads and > geckos in there and this concoction is supposed to be safe around them. Thx > for your help. Beverly Fizzell > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Jul 11 14:44:46 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:44:46 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] cotton (Texas) root rot Message-ID: Please call the Tucson Extension Office and we will mail you the information on cotton (Texas) root rot and plants resistant to this fungus. Our number is 626-5161. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: oriley@wescap.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:00:16 -0700 (MST) > >I had roots and soil from a ficus tree and cassia plant analyzed by the >Extension Service, through the Tucson facility, and was told both had Texas >Root rot. I will be digging up the tree, three cassia plants, Plumbago and >yellow bird of paradise and would like to receive a list of trees/shrubs >that can be planted in the same area. I understand I can download the list >but am unable to find it under your publications list. Please advise the >information I need to input to find this list. Also, in digging up the >tree and shrubs I realize I will not get all the root system. However, am >I save to assume the remaining roots will rot and not affect other shrubs >and trees. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From GDeBois@Qwest.net Wed Jul 11 14:53:57 2001 From: GDeBois@Qwest.net (GDeBois@Qwest.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:53:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111453.f6BErvF22855@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a gardenia planted in a clay pot. It receives ironite, a cup of vinegar diluted in a gallon of water and miracid once a month. It gets a deep watering once a week and is on the patio and receives mostly indirect sunlight. It looks healthy but will not bloom. A friend told me the clay pot is the culprit. That it emits too much acid to the plant. Any suggestions? From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Jul 11 14:55:45 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:55:45 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cactus potting mix Message-ID: Scott's and Schulz both make a cactus potting mix. call your local county extension office - they will probably have specific information for your area. I tried searching the web for "cactus mix" and found a number of companies that sell cactus potting mix. Here is just one example: http://www.homeharvest.com/pottingmixes.htm Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Avrohom Leichtling >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Where can I get it? How can it be sent to NY? >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:04:30 -0400 > >Hi- > >I wrote a week or so ago about a pair of saguaros that I brought back to >NY with me from a recent trip to Tucson. I can't find the proper soil >mixture or types here that might be appropriate for these cacti. I >suspect NY potting soils might not be sufficiently alkaline enough - >even mixed with gravel and sand. > >Would it be possible for you to direct me to a local source of >appropriate soil mixtures that I could purchase and then have shipped to >NY? I can't imagine needing more than 10lbs - probably half that amount >would do for the next year or so. Is there a local on-line source that I >could tap into? > >Thanks- > >Avrohom Leichtling > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Jul 11 15:09:56 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:09:56 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardenia Message-ID: Others are more experienced and can give you a more informed answer, I'm sure. I did some reading and it seems gardenias require particular attention in order to bloom. The book I consulted says they need a steady temperature of 62-63 degrees while buds are forming. Any sudden temperature change will cause buds to drop off. A high degree of humidity is also essential when buds are forming -- stand pots in a tray of moist pebbles and mist at least once a day. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: GDeBois@Qwest.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 07:53:57 -0700 (MST) > >I have a gardenia planted in a clay pot. It receives ironite, a cup of >vinegar diluted in a gallon of water and miracid once a month. It gets a >deep watering once a week and is on the patio and receives mostly indirect >sunlight. It looks healthy but will not bloom. A friend told me the clay >pot is the culprit. That it emits too much acid to the plant. Any >suggestions? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From PG.MULLENEAUX@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 11 17:23:08 2001 From: PG.MULLENEAUX@WORLDNET.ATT.NET (PG.MULLENEAUX@WORLDNET.ATT.NET) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:23:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111723.f6BHN8F19190@Ag.Arizona.Edu> hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well hydrated? From Monkwunk@aol.Com Wed Jul 11 17:44:42 2001 From: Monkwunk@aol.Com (Monkwunk@aol.Com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:44:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111744.f6BHigF23166@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a small orchid that I keep in the house,it has coarse stems & leaves. The flowers are very small and grow in a small bunch,their color is orange. Can you tell the name of it?,and how to properly care for it. thank you From Monkwunk@aol.Com Wed Jul 11 17:47:12 2001 From: Monkwunk@aol.Com (Monkwunk@aol.Com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:47:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111747.f6BHlCF23707@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a small orchid that I keep in the house,it has coarse stems & leaves. The flowers are very small and grow in a small bunch,their color is orange. Can you tell the name of it?,and how to properly care for it. thank you. Gary Henery From hassettall@aol.com Wed Jul 11 18:46:39 2001 From: hassettall@aol.com (hassettall@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:46:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111846.f6BIkdF04685@Ag.Arizona.Edu> i have a tangerine tree that bore very small fruit last year-my first year in az- the new fruit is about the size of golf balls in clusters of three--if i remove one or two of the fruit -would that make the remaining ones larger thank you for your answer From forechet@aol.com Wed Jul 11 18:49:17 2001 From: forechet@aol.com (forechet@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:49:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107111849.f6BInHF05061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> can you grow rhubarb in our area(sun city)? if so--where can plant be purchased? what kind of soil and exposure qill help it thrive......thank you From sjbass@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:30:03 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting guide References: <200107111723.f6BHN8F19190@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CA93A.D228054A@qwest.net> You can view publication AZ1100 online by going to: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers Perhaps someone else can address the begonia question. The are not listed in the Sunset Western Garden Book as being satisfactory for our area. The need humidity and moist soil. There have been people who have grown other plants here that are not known to do well, so lets see if we hear from someone. Sue Bass Master Gardener PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net wrote: > hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? > > Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well hydrated? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:46:16 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Red Volunteer Day Lily References: <200107051737.f65HbTI12928@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CAD08.848D72D@qwest.net> In general, day lilies can do well Phoenix, particularly with some light afternoon shade and good watering. As to this particular plant, BH&G has a website where I'm sure you can post a message, if no one else replies from our listing. Linda Guy, MG az4me@earthlink.net wrote: > I read about a new day lily, the Red Volunteer Day Lily, in a spring edition of Better Homes & Gardens. Do you think this can be grown successfully in Phoenix?. If so, when would I plant it? I've recently moved to Arizona and, to date, have planted only things that are particularly suited to arid conditions; however,I would like to plant this in a raised planter in front of our house > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:42:53 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:42:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cantaloupe References: <200107041844.f64IiYI16147@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CAC3D.52FA1FEB@qwest.net> I've always heard that they are thirsty plants and I wouldn't suspend your usual irrigation schedule. A cantaloupe is ripe when if falls off the vine when gently rolled. If you have to tug, it's not ready yet. Linda Guy, MG bbpotts@az.rmci.net wrote: > I have cantalope on vines that are of various > sizes and state of developement. Do they have > a chance of ripening if I keep them watered? > Also should I be feeding them since they have > been growing since the first to mid march? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:53:18 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:53:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Composting gardens References: <200107061945.f66JjmI20576@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CAEAE.77895EFF@qwest.net> We generally recomend twice a year 2-4" application and tilled in. Let the soil cook a couple weeks before planting, particularly if the compost is not well-composted. I usually buy it already bagged, but when its available, it is often posted on this server, if you are a member. Try any local farms, 4-H or FFA members, local friends with bunnies [makes great manure tea], etc. Linda Guy, MG colbeboy@webtv.net wrote: > I have three raised bed gardens that I plan to grow vegetables in and am looking for a source of organic compost to fill the beds with and grow the vegetables in. (as recommended by "Dave the Garden guy" in his desert gardening book.The beds are 4'by6'by2' each and empty. > *How much compost will I need to fill the beds? > *Where can I get organic compost? > Any other suggestions? > Thanks- > Betsy > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:50:42 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:50:42 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ponytail palm seeds/flower References: <104.5a413ec.2876639f@aol.com> Message-ID: <3B4CAE12.A1E1CF2A@qwest.net> --------------25DD369738963630E56FA98E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've never witnessed this, but evidently very old specimens may eventually produce creamy white flowers, although my reference says it is inconspicuous. Congratulations on your plant's 'ripe' old age! Since this is a succulent [agavaceae] you might want to call the DBG during the daily plant hotline period [M-F 10 - 11:30 am, 480/941-1225] to see if they have any thoughts for you. I'm also posting this to arid_gardener to see if anyone has had this experience and can speak to any seed development. Linda LORIWARDEN@aol.com wrote: > I have a 5' ponytail palm/Beaucarnea Recurvata, that is about 15 years > old. > It has a huge flower for the first time in its life. I'm assuming the > seeds > are in the tiny > flowers? Or are they going to come out in a pod ? (no pod is > evident) The > flowers are dropping all over my patio. I hate for them to go to > waste if > they contain seeds. I > thought I might try to plant the seeds but have NO knowledge of seed > germination for this plant. > Any information you can give me is appreciated. --------------25DD369738963630E56FA98E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've never witnessed this, but evidently very old specimens may eventually produce creamy white flowers, although my reference says it is inconspicuous. Congratulations on your plant's 'ripe' old age! Since this is a succulent [agavaceae] you might want to call the DBG during the daily plant hotline period [M-F 10 - 11:30 am, 480/941-1225] to see if they have any thoughts for you.

I'm also posting this to arid_gardener to see if anyone has had this experience and can speak to any seed development.

Linda

LORIWARDEN@aol.com wrote:

I have a 5' ponytail palm/Beaucarnea Recurvata, that is about 15 years old.
It has a huge flower for the first time in its life.  I'm assuming the seeds
are in the tiny
flowers?  Or are they going to come out in a pod ? (no pod is evident)  The
flowers are dropping all over my patio.  I hate for them to go to waste if
they contain seeds.  I
thought I might try to plant the seeds but have NO knowledge of seed
germination for this plant.
Any information you can give me is appreciated.
--------------25DD369738963630E56FA98E-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 19:59:21 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:59:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bamboo References: <200107100618.f6A6IxF24619@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CB018.8A701279@qwest.net> I see no one's replied yet, and I don't have a specific answer. But I do recollect that there was an article on bamboo in the Arizona Republic in the last 2 years, which you could try to locate on their website.http://www.arizonarepublic.com/ I believe that only a few of the many species grow in Phoenix, but that those can do well. Make sure you know whether you are getting a clumping or running bamboo. The latter will keep you forever busy trying to contain it....just like bermuda it can dash across the yard spreading towards any available moisture. It is a grass, after all! Linda Guy, MG r.bahto@att.net wrote: > Are there any other types of bamboo that will grow in the Phoenix area (other than the two listed on this website - Bambusa oldhami and Phyllostachys aurea)? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 20:08:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:08:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo Verde Desert Museum References: <200107101123.f6ABNoF20124@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CB226.DB367EB3@qwest.net> In her book Gardening in the Desert, Mary Irish says that this is a complicated three-way hybrid of the foothills, Mexican and blue palo verdes. It has been out of production for some time, according to Irish, although a minor comeback is being staged. Because they were developed for a more upright form, I'm wondering if this isn't part of the reason that they are snapping. I'm sorry I couldn't locate more information. All palos are susceptible to limb dieback and bark splitting, a response to drought for an extended time, or heavy pruning or pruning in colder weather. I'd recommend reading her book for a good discussion of the various palos, their care requirements and how they can be best used in your particular space. Linda Guy, MG bills@dlcresources.com wrote: > I'm looking for some info on the desert museum palo verde. I have a property with hundreds of them. They seem to have a tendency to snap off at ground level. I would like to plant another variety of palo verde. What do you recommend? The trees are all in rows so it would have to be a very close match. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 20:08:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:08:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo Verde Desert Museum References: <200107101123.f6ABNoF20124@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CB226.DB367EB3@qwest.net> In her book Gardening in the Desert, Mary Irish says that this is a complicated three-way hybrid of the foothills, Mexican and blue palo verdes. It has been out of production for some time, according to Irish, although a minor comeback is being staged. Because they were developed for a more upright form, I'm wondering if this isn't part of the reason that they are snapping. I'm sorry I couldn't locate more information. All palos are susceptible to limb dieback and bark splitting, a response to drought for an extended time, or heavy pruning or pruning in colder weather. I'd recommend reading her book for a good discussion of the various palos, their care requirements and how they can be best used in your particular space. Linda Guy, MG bills@dlcresources.com wrote: > I'm looking for some info on the desert museum palo verde. I have a property with hundreds of them. They seem to have a tendency to snap off at ground level. I would like to plant another variety of palo verde. What do you recommend? The trees are all in rows so it would have to be a very close match. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 11 20:14:15 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:14:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Corn Gluten 'Weed & Feed' References: <200107102341.f6ANfIF03646@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4CB397.825991D9@qwest.net> Starting this past May, I'm trying this out for a year. I purchased it through a catalog [when they were running a $20 coupon!]. I have been extremely impressed with the lush greenness of our bermuda hybrid this summer, as has my husband who generally does the mowing. But the REAL reason I'm using this product is to see how well the weeds are contained this winter. They've been a problem for the lawn in the last two winters and frankly, I'm to blame because the lawn is never my first priority. However, a very healthy lawn will usually be the first and best line of defense in the battle with weeds. I'm hoping for good results this winter, even when the bermuda is dormant [I don't overseed]. By the way, it's not supposed to be a problem for pets or for walking on it. I water it in very well to keep the dog from trying to snack on it. If you locate a local source from your posting, please let me know! Linda Guy, MG sonja.branch@asu.edu wrote: > I have read recently that corn gluten meal is used in some parts of the country as an organic herbicide, and would like to try it out. Does anyone know where in the Phoenix-area I can purchase the stuff? Has anyone tried it out on the kind of weeds we get around here? Anyone know of any drawbacks to this product? My yard is a bit too big to do by hand; a goat would be nice, but the neighbors might object--any other ideas on effective organic weed control? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From cdavidson@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 11 21:25:26 2001 From: cdavidson@az.rmci.net (cdavidson@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:25:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107112125.f6BLPQF00550@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My question is about an Australian Bottle Tree. The tree is planted on the side of the house and faces south. There is a large brown patch on the otherwise green trunk. The trunk has cracks where the brown patch is. What do you think is wrong with the tree? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 11 21:32:29 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:32:29 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bottle tree with brown patch Message-ID: If the brown patch is on the west side of the tree and it is exposed to the afternoon sun it is most likely sunburn. Not much that you can do about it now except to cover the trunk with burlap or paint it white to prevent further sun burn. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RkBetu@aol.com Wed Jul 11 21:39:29 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:39:29 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Crickets Message-ID: In a message dated 7/11/01 7:45:40 AM, lindaguy@qwest.net writes: << I am going to attempt to get rid of crickets in my greenhouse with a remedy > from Dave Owens book, "Extreme Gardening", Recipe #5 on page 227. It is > equal amounts of Arm & Hammer laundry detergent and powdered sugar. >> Are you sure the detergent isn't Boraxo? A remedy I have used successfully for years against ants and roaches, etc., calls for equal mixtures of boric acid (which is in Boraxo), powdered sugar, and corn meal (better yet, masa). Rocki From RkBetu@aol.com Wed Jul 11 22:03:34 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:03:34 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bamboo Message-ID: <60.10e8264c.287e2736@aol.com> I have a 15-yr old thick stand of a common varigated bamboo (is most often seen in AZ, don't know scientific name) that everyone is impressed with. I started it from a few culms and it is now about 15' x 15' by about 12' high. It had a bit of shade, not much 15 years ago! It is a runner, but not invasive in this climate (you have to dig up the ground around it to get it to spread). It takes very minimal water - once a month or less, but does require at least a yearly "cleaning". I have had fair luck since this first planting in transplanting new sprouts (under 6" is best) in early spring. It will grow very slowly the first 1-3 years (as to spreading) and seems to do best in partial shade with at least weekly watering. I also have a nigra (phyllostachys) about 7 years old. It has done well, but has not gained maximum height that it can in a more suitable climate, and has not spread very fast. It is in partial to full shade most of the day. My newest, just a couple of years old, is B. Alphonse Karr, also doing quite well. It seems to require the most water and is in partial shade. I have not had any luck with any of the timber bamboos, Oldhami, or Budda's Belly. Hope this helps, I too love bamboo! Rocki From noncom_26@yahoo.com Wed Jul 11 22:10:50 2001 From: noncom_26@yahoo.com (John H. Kusmiss) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig Tree Suddenly Losing Leaves and Fruit in Summer Message-ID: <20010711221050.19584.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Please post the following -- I'm a new subscriber: Help! The leaves and small figs on my fig tree have, over the space of one week, turned brown and dried up, and shriveled up, respectively. I don't know the name of the variety, but the trunk of the tree is smooth and gray and the figs are light green. The tree is about seven feet high and somewhere between 10 and 30 years old. I have never fertilized it or pruned and in the past have only watered it occasionally in extended hot spells. I live in southern California. This year it seemed like fewer and smaller leaves than normal came out. We have had a run of very hot weather lately and because the leaves, though green, seemed to be curling up, I watered the tree a few times in the evening for about an hour each time shortly before going on vacation for a week. When I got back yesterday, the tree was in its present condition. Has the watering caused the problem, perhaps? Has the tree suddenly gone dormant for some reason?. I can't bear the thought of this tree having died through my ignorance and/or neglect. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed Jul 11 23:17:10 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:17:10 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] rhubarb Message-ID: Rhubarb isn't really suited to our location. It prefers acid soil that is rich, deep and well-drained. It is best suited to Zone 8 or cooler (we are in 9). Also, it's not easy to grow perennials that require two seasons to reach maturity (rhubarb is one). Summer extremes of heat and brightness are hard on these perennials. (per George Brookbank, "Desert Gardening"). Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: forechet@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:49:17 -0700 (MST) > >can you grow rhubarb in our area(sun city)? >if so--where can plant be purchased? >what kind of soil and exposure qill help it >thrive......thank you > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 11 23:20:33 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:20:33 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig Tree Suddenly Losing Leaves and Fruit in Summer Message-ID: <34.17b8f583.287e3941@aol.com> I suspect that your fig tree is dying from lack of water. I don't know what your climatic conditions have been recently, but in Southern Arizona it has been very dry. When you water any plant it should be deep watered, in the case of your fig tree I would suggest that you place the hose near the tree and let it run slowly over night to deep water it. Your county Cooperative Extension will know more specifically what your conditions have been and be better able to advise you. They will be listed in your phone book under county government. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From rcsvail@mindspring.com Wed Jul 11 23:24:48 2001 From: rcsvail@mindspring.com (rcsvail@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:24:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107112324.f6BNOmF20377@Ag.Arizona.Edu> To whom it may concern, I have been living in Arizona for 17 years and gardening still amazes me...I have two Bird of Paradise and they were planted 5 years ago....They were beautiful for the first three years....Last year and this year they have not filled out and one has barely come back..the blooms aren't as big and the one plant did not bloom...Could you please tell me what the problem is......Also I have a Blue palo Verde tree out front...It is quite big and I noticed this year the trunk has splits in it.....Could you tell me what causes this and will that create a problem..And last I have a small pond in my backyard and this year has attracted many bees.....I do not want to spray by the water as I have several fish...I know bees polenate and are good for the yard but they are becoming a problem....Could you give some advice on how to get rid of them...Thank You From umiller@azdps.com Wed Jul 11 23:57:26 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:57:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardenias In-Reply-To: <200107111453.f6BErvF22855@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: Linda Drew's comments about the fickle nature of gardenias is right on. These plants need an awful lot of pampering out here. The fact that yours gets indirect sunlight is great, the ironite and Miracid good, etc. but you just don't have control over the bigger environment - our weather. I had two lovely plants in the ground that did well the year they were planted and that was the end of that pleasure. I gave them everything that a plant could want but the great changes in temperature and humidity kept them struggling. I finally got rid of them two months ago after pampering them for over three years. So I'm not sure that the clay in the pot is the problem -- I think that the problem may be Mother Nature in Arizona and the fact that it's in a pot where the soil gets hot, even in the shade. I wish you good luck with your plant because they are so pretty and have such a lovely fragrance. But if you don't succeed, don't beat yourself up over it. I think that the line of people who have failed with gardenias here in the desert is much longer than the line of those who have succeeded. :-) Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of GDeBois@qwest.net Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:54 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a gardenia planted in a clay pot. It receives ironite, a cup of vinegar diluted in a gallon of water and miracid once a month. It gets a deep watering once a week and is on the patio and receives mostly indirect sunlight. It looks healthy but will not bloom. A friend told me the clay pot is the culprit. That it emits too much acid to the plant. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From eavance@netzero.net Thu Jul 12 00:57:06 2001 From: eavance@netzero.net (eavance@netzero.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 17:57:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107120057.f6C0v6F01789@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to plant a small tree near my condo courtyard. I want it to keep its leaves year round. I want something that doesn't require a lot of care. Can you help me? By small I mean about 8 to 10 feet. Thanks From eavance@netzero.net Thu Jul 12 01:03:19 2001 From: eavance@netzero.net (eavance@netzero.net) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:03:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107120103.f6C13JF02705@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have just moved into a home with Arizona Sweet oranges. It is in dire need of trimming. When do I do that? Thanks From kdpi@yahoo.com Thu Jul 12 01:37:38 2001 From: kdpi@yahoo.com (kdpi@yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:37:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107120137.f6C1bbF05597@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Hi, We just lost a museum palo verdi to the wind. We have heard that this is a common occurance, is this true. Is there a desert tree that would hold up better in the wind? From copperb@qwest.net Thu Jul 12 13:51:44 2001 From: copperb@qwest.net (Copper Bittner) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Crickets Message-ID: <00e201c10ad9$c9e20b60$0200000a@Micron> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C10A9F.1CD232E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here is also a fine publication online regarding cricket management. = Check it out. I don't remember this being posted. http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1004.pdf Copper Bittner Master Gardener ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C10A9F.1CD232E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C10A9F.1CD232E0-- From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Thu Jul 12 16:31:49 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:31:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting guide References: <200107111723.f6BHN8F19190@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3B4CA93A.D228054A@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B4DD0F5.6BE3331D@email.sps.mot.com> I've tried Begonia's a couple of times with no success. Even in the shade, when it's hot, they quickly crash burn. Since I had never grown them in cooler climates, I'm not sure if it was me or them, but I've never tried again. By the time the got started and were looking good, it would get into the 100's and they would just die. ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Sue Bass wrote: > You can view publication AZ1100 online by going to: > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers > > Perhaps someone else can address the begonia question. The are not listed in the > Sunset Western Garden Book as being satisfactory for our area. The need humidity > and moist soil. There have been people who have grown other plants here that are > not known to do well, so lets see if we hear from someone. > > Sue Bass > Master Gardener > PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? > > > > Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well hydrated? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From ram6260@yahoo.com Thu Jul 12 17:00:50 2001 From: ram6260@yahoo.com (BOB RAMSEY) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] lemon tree problem Message-ID: <20010712170050.17482.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Two years ago I had leaf yellowing and drop on my established lemon tree which at that time was watered on drip at the same rate as my healthy grapefruit and orange trees. You suggested that the lemon tree needs more water than other citrus. So I converted to watering with bubbler and large basin around trunk. I water in the summer once a week for 2 hrs. and can probe 2 feet into the ground afterwards( seems that if i water for longer I still cannot go down 3 ft.). This spring, the tree had fairly good new leaf growth but the leaves have remained small and tend to curl and even turn yellow. The tree has very sparce look although the stems are still green under the bark. Any suggestions?. Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From steve.sheard@motorola.com Thu Jul 12 17:44:26 2001 From: steve.sheard@motorola.com (Stephen Sheard) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:44:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Begonia In-Reply-To: <3B4DD0F5.6BE3331D@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: I guess I am the "odd gardener". I decided to plant some begonias in the same beds I have my Geraniums, and guess what - they are doing extremely well. This is there first year so we will see. But as the Geraniums are doing so well I have hopes for the begonias. These are raised beds on the north side of my patio just under the roof, so get 100% shade. They get sprinkled twice a day, 4am and 4pm for about 2 minutes. They get drenched every 3 days when the lawns water. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Alan Zelhart (rpcs30) Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:32 AM To: Sue Bass Cc: PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Planting guide I've tried Begonia's a couple of times with no success. Even in the shade, when it's hot, they quickly crash burn. Since I had never grown them in cooler climates, I'm not sure if it was me or them, but I've never tried again. By the time the got started and were looking good, it would get into the 100's and they would just die. ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Sue Bass wrote: > You can view publication AZ1100 online by going to: > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers > > Perhaps someone else can address the begonia question. The are not listed in the > Sunset Western Garden Book as being satisfactory for our area. The need humidity > and moist soil. There have been people who have grown other plants here that are > not known to do well, so lets see if we hear from someone. > > Sue Bass > Master Gardener > PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? > > > > Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well hydrated? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Thu Jul 12 18:17:26 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:17:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Begonia References: Message-ID: <3B4DE9B6.852FB245@email.sps.mot.com> Stephen, Are you talking about the begonia's you can pick up at the nursery, or bulb begonia's? I dont' have my Sunset Western Gardener book with me to look up the scientific name. I can grow the begonia's with hte littel red, pink, and white flowers. The ones that have burgundy or green leaves. I cannot grow the hanging basket variety of begonia's that are started via bulbs, and are true begonia's. I think there may be some confusion going on in these posts ;) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! "Stephen Sheard (r21680)" wrote: > I guess I am the "odd gardener". I decided to plant some begonias in the > same beds I have my Geraniums, and guess what - they are doing extremely > well. This is there first year so we will see. But as the Geraniums are > doing so well I have hopes for the begonias. > These are raised beds on the north side of my patio just under the roof, so > get 100% shade. They get sprinkled twice a day, 4am and 4pm for about 2 > minutes. They get drenched every 3 days when the lawns water. > Regards > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu > [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Alan Zelhart > (rpcs30) > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:32 AM > To: Sue Bass > Cc: PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Planting guide > > I've tried Begonia's a couple of times with no success. Even in the shade, > when it's > hot, they quickly crash burn. Since I had never grown them in cooler > climates, I'm > not sure if it was me or them, but I've never tried again. By the time the > got > started and were looking good, it would get into the 100's and they would > just die. > > ----- > Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 > > http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm > Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! > > Sue Bass wrote: > > > You can view publication AZ1100 online by going to: > > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers > > > > Perhaps someone else can address the begonia question. The are not listed > in the > > Sunset Western Garden Book as being satisfactory for our area. The need > humidity > > and moist soil. There have been people who have grown other plants here > that are > > not known to do well, so lets see if we hear from someone. > > > > Sue Bass > > Master Gardener > > PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > > > hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? > > > > > > Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well > hydrated? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Thu Jul 12 18:48:27 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Begonia References: <3B4DE9B6.852FB245@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <3B4DF0FA.46D30727@email.sps.mot.com> Ok, I found some info. The begonia that grows here fairly easily in shade, with maybe some morning sun is Wax-Leaf Begonia, Begonia semperflorens. It is a true begonia as well, however different scientific name. The begonia's I'm talking about that I cannot grow here come with many different scietific names, The website below lists many of them: http://www.begonias.org/greenhouse/greenhouse.htm Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! "Alan Zelhart (rpcs30)" wrote: > Stephen, > > Are you talking about the begonia's you can pick up at the nursery, or bulb > begonia's? I dont' have my Sunset Western Gardener book with me to look up the > scientific name. I can grow the begonia's with hte littel red, pink, and white > flowers. The ones that have burgundy or green leaves. I cannot grow the > hanging basket variety of begonia's that are started via bulbs, and are true > begonia's. > > I think there may be some confusion going on in these posts ;) > ----- > Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 > > http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm > Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! > > "Stephen Sheard (r21680)" wrote: > > > I guess I am the "odd gardener". I decided to plant some begonias in the > > same beds I have my Geraniums, and guess what - they are doing extremely > > well. This is there first year so we will see. But as the Geraniums are > > doing so well I have hopes for the begonias. > > These are raised beds on the north side of my patio just under the roof, so > > get 100% shade. They get sprinkled twice a day, 4am and 4pm for about 2 > > minutes. They get drenched every 3 days when the lawns water. > > Regards > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Alan Zelhart > > (rpcs30) > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:32 AM > > To: Sue Bass > > Cc: PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Planting guide > > > > I've tried Begonia's a couple of times with no success. Even in the shade, > > when it's > > hot, they quickly crash burn. Since I had never grown them in cooler > > climates, I'm > > not sure if it was me or them, but I've never tried again. By the time the > > got > > started and were looking good, it would get into the 100's and they would > > just die. > > > > ----- > > Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 > > > > http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm > > Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! > > > > Sue Bass wrote: > > > > > You can view publication AZ1100 online by going to: > > > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers > > > > > > Perhaps someone else can address the begonia question. The are not listed > > in the > > > Sunset Western Garden Book as being satisfactory for our area. The need > > humidity > > > and moist soil. There have been people who have grown other plants here > > that are > > > not known to do well, so lets see if we hear from someone. > > > > > > Sue Bass > > > Master Gardener > > > PG.MULLENEAUX@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > > > > > hOW do I get a listening of when you shoudl plant things in this valley? > > > > > > > > Will begonia's grow outside here in the summer if well shaded and well > > hydrated? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From gahm-day-vike@excite.com Thu Jul 12 20:57:06 2001 From: gahm-day-vike@excite.com (gahm-day-vike@excite.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:57:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107122057.f6CKv6F16195@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a lemon tree that is producing lemons that are 6 - 8 inches in diameter. They are mostly ALL RIND when cut open and dried up inside. Last season the tree only produced 2 lemons. This season it has produced 2 dozen or more of these "monster" lemons. What can be done to correct this and get nice, fist-sized lemons from this tree? Thanks! From brianjholte@aol.com Thu Jul 12 21:41:47 2001 From: brianjholte@aol.com (brianjholte@aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:41:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107122141.f6CLflF23822@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a species of cactus I believe is called Monstra (looks like a subspecies of an organ pipe)...It is currently 6 ft. tall with approx. 8 pipes. 3 new ones recently sprouted--I was told they could be cut off at the root and replanted. Is this true...if so, do you have any recommendations. Thank You! Brian From meekf28@aol.com Thu Jul 12 21:48:59 2001 From: meekf28@aol.com (meekf28@aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:48:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107122148.f6CLmxF24834@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My figs are getting ripe, how do I keep the worms from getting inside of the fruit? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 12 22:13:47 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:13:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus, pruning Message-ID: <14.16e2abc6.287f7b1b@aol.com> The general rule for pruning citrus trees is DON"T. Only prune dead or crossing branches and a wayward branch and do not prune in the summer, you could leave branches or trunk exposed to the sun which will cause sunburn. Never prune more than 15% at one time. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 12 22:42:00 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:42:00 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Figs, worms in fruit Message-ID: There are small black beetles called sour bugs that crawl into the eye of the fig fruit and lay eggs. The eggs hatch into white grubs. The grubs carry bacteria that causes figs to turn sour, mushy or smutty. To prevent sour bug damage, grow closed-eye cultivars such as 'Brown Turkey' or 'Mission'. Clean up fallen fruit, which attracts beetles and trap beetles in containers of fermenting fruit. [source: The Organic Gardener's Handbook of NATURAL Insect and Disease Control] Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: meekf28@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:48:59 -0700 (MST) > > My figs are getting ripe, how do I keep the worms from getting inside >of the fruit? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 12 22:47:06 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:47:06 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cactus propagation, cuttings Message-ID: Chapter 17 of the Master Gardener Manual has general guidelines for rooting: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/cacti/Propagation.htm I am sure there are others on this list that can give first-hand experience. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: brianjholte@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 14:41:47 -0700 (MST) > >I have a species of cactus I believe is called >Monstra (looks like a subspecies of an organ >pipe)...It is currently 6 ft. tall with approx. >8 pipes. 3 new ones recently sprouted--I was >told they could be cut off at the root and >replanted. Is this true...if so, do you have >any recommendations. > >Thank You! > >Brian > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From maf13429@aol.com Thu Jul 12 22:48:16 2001 From: maf13429@aol.com (maf13429@aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:48:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107122248.f6CMmGF04568@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a jasmine vine that I planted in march, it seems to have some kind of deficiency. Its leaves are beginning to brown and parts of the plant have begun to die. I water it regularly, keeping it moist but occasionally letting the soil dry. It is planted close to a concrete slab and climbs a trellis. Until recently(1 week) it was growing well, although there have been no blooms since April. Please help...the fragrance is incredible and I look forward to enjoying it again soon. I also have had similar problems with a potted(clay) rose bush that seems to be experiencing the same problem. My other plants are fine and have done well this summer. Thank you for any help. From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jul 12 23:08:35 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 23:08:35 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lemon, ponderosa Message-ID: This could be a ponderosa lemon, a variety of lemon with very large fruit. The very thick rind could be due to over-fertilizing or high tempertures when the fruit was forming. The dry fruit could be due to lack of water. You didn't say how old the tree is. If it is very young, this could be normal. Citrus may take a few years in the ground to produce good fruit. Crops the first year or two may have thick rinds. Could you give us more information about the age of the tree and how you care for it? That will help us find an answer. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: gahm-day-vike@excite.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:57:06 -0700 (MST) > >I have a lemon tree that is producing lemons that are 6 - 8 inches in >diameter. They are mostly ALL RIND when cut open and dried up inside. > >Last season the tree only produced 2 lemons. This season it has produced 2 >dozen or more of these "monster" lemons. > >What can be done to correct this and get nice, fist-sized lemons from this >tree? > >Thanks! > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From umiller@azdps.com Thu Jul 12 22:54:32 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:54:32 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200107120057.f6C0v6F01789@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: My suggestion is not a tree, but a shrub - if you have room for it. I would suggest hibiscus. It is green year-round, doesn't require too much fussing and has lovely flowers. The height is a little less than 8 feet (6-7 feet) and the width is fairly well contained if you do some occasional trimming near the bottom of the bush. I have some hibiscus at my house but I also own some property in a condo complex where the landscaper has planted hibiscus bushes here and there. They make the place look nice and lush and since landscapers don't like foliage that requires a lot of fussing on their part, you can be sure that the landscaper would not have planted these plants if he thought that there'd be a lot of work on his part. :-) Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of eavance@netzero.net Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:57 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I want to plant a small tree near my condo courtyard. I want it to keep its leaves year round. I want something that doesn't require a lot of care. Can you help me? By small I mean about 8 to 10 feet. Thanks _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From umiller@azdps.com Thu Jul 12 22:54:34 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:54:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Jasmine Vine In-Reply-To: <200107122248.f6CMmGF04568@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: I have had both experiences - with the roses and with the jasmine. First of all - the roses. Is this your first summer with these roses and are these potted plants in the sun? I had roses in pots, too, and they turned brown and died in the summer while I don't experience that with the roses in the ground. I think that soil dries out too fast in the pots and the soil gets too hot. Hopefully this isn't your problem but that's what happened. I don't have roses in pots anymore. On the jasmine -- this happens to mine almost every summer. I have trellises on the east and west sides of the house and both are near walls. I find that a lot of the leaves turn dark brown and fall off but others survive. Unlike you, though, parts of my plant don't die -- just the brown leaves fall off. I've accepted this because once the weather cools again, the plant starts growing like crazy. So maybe you can just ride this out and see what happens in a couple of months. On the flowering -- mine only flower in the spring. They have never flowered in the summer. I hope this helps. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of maf13429@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:48 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a jasmine vine that I planted in march, it seems to have some kind of deficiency. Its leaves are beginning to brown and parts of the plant have begun to die. I water it regularly, keeping it moist but occasionally letting the soil dry. It is planted close to a concrete slab and climbs a trellis. Until recently(1 week) it was growing well, although there have been no blooms since April. Please help...the fragrance is incredible and I look forward to enjoying it again soon. I also have had similar problems with a potted(clay) rose bush that seems to be experiencing the same problem. My other plants are fine and have done well this summer. Thank you for any help. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Pepe2816@cs.com Fri Jul 13 02:48:00 2001 From: Pepe2816@cs.com (Pepe2816@cs.com) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:48:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pomegranits Message-ID: <3d.e48d93f.287fbb60@cs.com> --part1_3d.e48d93f.287fbb60_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - I have a pomegranit (sp) tree that is about 5 years old. This year all of the fruit is small, about 3 inches in diameter, and almost every piece of fruit has split. Could you please tell me why this is happening? Thanks Patricia. --part1_3d.e48d93f.287fbb60_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - I have a pomegranit (sp) tree that is about 5 years old.  This year all
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Patricia. --part1_3d.e48d93f.287fbb60_boundary-- From p29538@email.mot.com Fri Jul 13 16:04:10 2001 From: p29538@email.mot.com (p29538@email.mot.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:04:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107131604.f6DG4AF14787@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Is there an "Organic" method for killing bermuda grass (and to a lesser extent weeds) in my vegetable garden ??? I'd rather not use Roundup and digging up the grass seems to be a constant chore. I tried using vinegar and it does kill many weeds, but doesn't seem to put a dent in bermuda grass. Thanks.... From bradleyl@Ag.Arizona.Edu Fri Jul 13 20:36:13 2001 From: bradleyl@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Lucy Bradley) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:36:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Greetings! Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010713132758.01d36c30@ag.arizona.edu> Many thanks to each of you who are sharing your gardening knowledge and experience through the arid_gardener listserve. The media has been so impressed with the caliber of information that is provided by Master Gardeners though this list that some publications are pulling questions and answers from the arid_gardener list to distribute in their newspapers, newsletters, and magazines. That is great! We are delighted that your hard work and good information is reaching a wider audience. Just wanted you to be aware that when you post an answer on the list it goes to the archives which is public domain. We actively encourage individuals and organizations to use the wealth of information in the archives. If you would prefer not to have your answers in the archives, you can post them directly to the individual, rather than to the list. Thanks again for the great work you are doing. Warmest regards, Lucy Bradley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Jul 13 22:25:38 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:25:38 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Root Rot Message-ID: <8a.95cac2a.2880cf62@aol.com> Valerie, The name Shoestring Root Rot is not a name that I recognize, do you know the botanical name? Your soil and climatic conditions are entirely different from what we have in the low desert of Arizona. This root rot or the name may be indigenous to your area. Your county Cooperative Extension should be able to help you, they will be listed in your phone book under county government. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From nanco@home.com Fri Jul 13 22:39:58 2001 From: nanco@home.com (nanco@home.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:39:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107132239.f6DMdwF18554@Ag.Arizona.Edu> One of my purple plum trees has numerous holes (earthworm size diameter) and is drooping and losing its leaves. I was told I have bark borers or flat head borers, and spraying with lindane may save the other trees, but it is no longer on the market. I need suggestions. Help! Thanks. Nancy From lizann@sisqtel.net Fri Jul 13 22:50:38 2001 From: lizann@sisqtel.net (Liz Warshaw) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:50:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] mailing list Message-ID: <3B4F7B3E.ABDA4769@sisqtel.net> May I please be included on the arid gardener mailing list? Peter Warshaw 21620 Hyw 96 Klamath River, CA 96050 From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri Jul 13 23:48:30 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:48:30 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [Arid_gardener]clearwing moth, peachtree borer Message-ID: I don't have a lot of direct experience, so others on the list may be better able to answer this. My understanding is that mature woody plants may tolerate and can recover from the attack of a few clearwing moth larvae (such as the peachtree borer). However the presence of this pest indicate that plants require extra cultural care. Provide trees proper cultural care and protect them from injury. Avoid disrupting natural enemies whenever possible. These include woodpeckers, some parasitic wasps and an insect parasitic nematode. (The nematodes are actually suspended in water and squirted into the borer holes). Contact biological control companies for more specific information -- you'll probably need to get a positive ID on exactly which clearwing woth larvae you have. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: nanco@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:39:58 -0700 (MST) > >One of my purple plum trees has numerous holes (earthworm size diameter) >and is drooping and losing its leaves. I was told I have bark borers or >flat head borers, and spraying with lindane may save the other trees, but >it is no longer on the market. I need suggestions. Help! Thanks. Nancy > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Krulich@aol.com Sat Jul 14 00:13:03 2001 From: Krulich@aol.com (Krulich@aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:13:03 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Please help - eucalyptus trees dying Message-ID: <49.ddbbdd4.2880e88f@aol.com> I live near Tucson and my eucalyptus trees are dying. These are 25+ year old trees. The first one died in 1997. The second one began declining last summer and is 85% gone, and will most likely be dead before summer is over. The last one is now beginning to die too. Does anyone know what is going on? I water them at the drip line 3' deep monthly in cool weather and every two weeks in hot weather. The leaves on large branches just dry up and die without warning. It is bad enough that the first one died and the second one is just about dead, but this third one is more important than the other two. I simply can't just stand by and watch this one die too. Are they susceptible to Texas Root Rot? I lost some cottonwoods that were next to them about 10 years ago due to TRR. What could be causing them to die? I could really use some advice on what to do. Should I have an arborist look at it? Could you give me the name and number of a reputable arborist in Tucson? Thanks, Tom From pamela@u.arizona.edu Sat Jul 14 00:22:29 2001 From: pamela@u.arizona.edu (Pamela Tremain Koch) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:22:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107131604.f6DG4AF14787@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <004701c10bfb$1258f080$0f02000a@computer> If you don't have anything important planted too close (e.g., trees, shrubs, etc.), you can use clear plastic to kill it. Water everything well to get the grass growing, then cover it with clear plastic for 4 to 6 weeks--this "cooks" the roots and kills the grass. We used it with good success in our yard. However, you want to make sure the roots of plants you don't want killed aren't cooked too. Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > Is there an "Organic" method for killing bermuda grass (and to a lesser extent weeds) in my vegetable garden ??? I'd rather not use Roundup and digging up the grass seems to be a constant chore. I tried using vinegar and it does kill many weeds, but doesn't seem to put a dent in bermuda grass. > > Thanks.... > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From umiller@azdps.com Sat Jul 14 00:07:56 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:07:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Greetings! In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010713132758.01d36c30@ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: Lucy - Thanks for the thanks. Even though I'm not a Master Gardener, I've enjoyed participating in this - reading all the advice from so many knowledgeable people and also being able to put in my 2 cents occasionally. I've wanted to post a note to everyone about how much I enjoy this, the people who participate and what a useful service this is -- just never got around to it. So you just gave me the opportunity. Muchas gracias, amigos and amigas. Vielen dank, Herren und Damen. Many thanks, Ladies and Gentlemen. (Just thought I'd throw in an international flavor.) Ursula Miller -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Lucy Bradley Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:36 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Greetings! Many thanks to each of you who are sharing your gardening knowledge and experience through the arid_gardener listserve. The media has been so impressed with the caliber of information that is provided by Master Gardeners though this list that some publications are pulling questions and answers from the arid_gardener list to distribute in their newspapers, newsletters, and magazines. That is great! We are delighted that your hard work and good information is reaching a wider audience. Just wanted you to be aware that when you post an answer on the list it goes to the archives which is public domain. We actively encourage individuals and organizations to use the wealth of information in the archives. If you would prefer not to have your answers in the archives, you can post them directly to the individual, rather than to the list. Thanks again for the great work you are doing. Warmest regards, Lucy Bradley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lucy K. Bradley Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture Maricopa County The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension 4341 E Broadway Rd. Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323 Fax: (602) 470-8092 email: BradleyL@ag.arizona.edu http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From umiller@azdps.com Sat Jul 14 00:12:50 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:12:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pomegranate Splitting In-Reply-To: <3d.e48d93f.287fbb60@cs.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C10BBF.0B941E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patricia - Did you change your watering habits with this plant? Too much water or a sudden increase in water can lead to the splitting. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener, but a friend of several pomegranate plants -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Pepe2816@cs.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 7:48 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pomegranits Hi - I have a pomegranit (sp) tree that is about 5 years old. This year all of the fruit is small, about 3 inches in diameter, and almost every piece of fruit has split. Could you please tell me why this is happening? Thanks Patricia. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C10BBF.0B941E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi - I have a pomegranit (sp) = tree that is=20 about 5 years old.  This year all
of the
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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C10BBF.0B941E00-- From umiller@azdps.com Sat Jul 14 00:15:04 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:15:04 -0700 Subject: FW: [Arid_gardener] Small Tree Message-ID: This person e-mailed me directly and said that they want a small tree for shade, so my answer about the hibiscus didn't help them. Maybe someone who knows trees can help them out. Ursula -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:55 PM To: eavance@netzero.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page My suggestion is not a tree, but a shrub - if you have room for it. I would suggest hibiscus. It is green year-round, doesn't require too much fussing and has lovely flowers. The height is a little less than 8 feet (6-7 feet) and the width is fairly well contained if you do some occasional trimming near the bottom of the bush. I have some hibiscus at my house but I also own some property in a condo complex where the landscaper has planted hibiscus bushes here and there. They make the place look nice and lush and since landscapers don't like foliage that requires a lot of fussing on their part, you can be sure that the landscaper would not have planted these plants if he thought that there'd be a lot of work on his part. :-) Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of eavance@netzero.net Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:57 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I want to plant a small tree near my condo courtyard. I want it to keep its leaves year round. I want something that doesn't require a lot of care. Can you help me? By small I mean about 8 to 10 feet. Thanks _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Sat Jul 14 01:12:35 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:12:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Greetings! References: Message-ID: <3B4F9C83.E23C40BF@AuroraNow.org> I'd like to take a moment to join Ursula and thank everyone here for this environment. I learn as much from the "Not An MGs" as the MGs. My 'real work' gets pretty involved heavily with research and complex global issues--this list helps keeps me "grounded" here in the desert I love so much, even when I'm online debating cybernetic theory with someone in Germany :-). Helps me remember to get up and go smell the flowers--literally! Danke and beaucoup gracias from me too! -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From surrey@worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 14 02:09:02 2001 From: surrey@worldnet.att.net (surrey@worldnet.att.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:09:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107140209.f6E292F12276@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have little black bugs in my ripe peaches. Is there anythin I can do at this late date? Surrey@worldnet.att.net From abailey13@qwest.net Sat Jul 14 02:48:55 2001 From: abailey13@qwest.net (anne bailey) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:48:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] compost material Message-ID: <3B4FB317.ABF8FF21@qwest.net> Please forward instructions for me to build a compost area in a small backyard. There is room for me to have a combination cactus garden and some veggies. Anne Bailey From iteach@hughes.net Sat Jul 14 04:06:00 2001 From: iteach@hughes.net (iteach@hughes.net) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:06:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107140406.f6E460F22308@Ag.Arizona.Edu> New to the area. Looking for composters and worm bins. Where I come from ( Seattle) the city provided a low cost/free composter for each household. Does Maricopa County do anything similar? From copperb@qwest.net Sat Jul 14 12:26:38 2001 From: copperb@qwest.net (Copper Bittner) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 05:26:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Free composting bins Message-ID: <019701c10c60$3b34e300$0200000a@Micron> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0194_01C10C25.8E269120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), = you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over = it. Call your city's water department to see if they have a program = like Phoenix does. I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the = containers were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways = of gardening. =20 Check out: http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html for = information on growing techniques unique to our area. Welcome and good luck! Copper Bittner Master Gardener ------=_NextPart_000_0194_01C10C25.8E269120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you are a Phoenix = resident (with=20 the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage = container that=20 has holes drilled all over it.  Call your city's water department = to see if=20 they have a program like Phoenix does.  I got two from Phoenix = several=20 years ago and the containers were perfect.
 
Being new to = our beautiful=20 Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. =20
 
Check = out:  http://ag.a= rizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html  for information on = growing techniques=20 unique to our area.
 
Welcome and good = luck!
 
Copper = Bittner
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------=_NextPart_000_0194_01C10C25.8E269120-- From cenalmor@yahoo.com Sat Jul 14 21:20:59 2001 From: cenalmor@yahoo.com (Barbara Cenalmor) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 14:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Free composting bins In-Reply-To: <019701c10c60$3b34e300$0200000a@Micron> Message-ID: <20010714212059.6655.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> --0-686657873-995145659=:6638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them to your house for free. Call the recycling/refuse department. Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener. Copper Bittner wrote: If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over it. Call your city's water department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does. I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. Check out: http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html for information on growing techniques unique to our area. Welcome and good luck! Copper BittnerMaster Gardener --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-686657873-995145659=:6638 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them to your house for free.  Call the recycling/refuse department.

Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener.

  Copper Bittner <copperb@qwest.net> wrote:

If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over it.  Call your city's water department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does.  I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers were perfect.
 
Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. 
 
Check out:  http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html  for information on growing techniques unique to our area.
 
Welcome and good luck!
 
Copper Bittner
Master Gardener


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http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-686657873-995145659=:6638-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sat Jul 14 22:23:49 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:23:49 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Please help - eucalyptus trees dying Message-ID: <7e.17bf17cb.28822075@aol.com> Tom, If the species of your eucalyptus trees is rudis, the latest Western Garden Book states that this species does not do well in the desert. I care for a property that planted 50 Eucalyptus rudis in 1986, today there are only 15 still standing and most of them are in decline. The care that they have had has been by the book. I was advised several years ago not to replant this species because something unknown was causing their demise. The Eucalyptus tree is listed as resistant to Texas Root Rot, however with the root rot fungi in the soil and with conditions just right the tree can become a host to the fungi. For an Arborist listing check out this site: http://www2.champaign.isa-arbor.com/arborists/arborist.html Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist. From mincen@aol.com Sat Jul 14 23:35:29 2001 From: mincen@aol.com (mincen@aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:35:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107142335.f6ENZTF05184@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have peaches on my peach tree for the first time without the birds getting them first. Can you pick the peaches early and let them sit in a window to ripen? I am afraid if I keep them in the tree much longer I will not get any again. Mindy From reyesr@u.arizona.edu Sun Jul 15 01:23:06 2001 From: reyesr@u.arizona.edu (reyesr@u.arizona.edu) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:23:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107150123.f6F1N6F13000@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I recently purchased an acacia salicina tree. The gentleman at the nursery said that it was a good tree to plant next to a pool because the roots are not "aggressive." I read on your web site in the description of this tree that it is "not good near pool." Why is this tree one that should not be planted by a pool? Can you recommend one or two trees that will be compatable with a pool. I also planted a prunus cerasifera flowering plum near the pool. Good or bad idea? Thanks for your help. Richard Reyes Tucson, AZ. From jennifurn@netzero.net Sun Jul 15 03:30:33 2001 From: jennifurn@netzero.net (the Nabors) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:30:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] killing soil borne diseases Message-ID: <001101c10cde$82187b00$0101a8c0@pavilion> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C10CA3.D5196B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will covering my tomato patch with black plastic kill the soil borne disease that is wiping out my tomatoes? (I hope so) I don't really have anywhere else to plant them. I have tried the=20 resistant varieties but they still die off.=20 Jennifer ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C10CA3.D5196B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C10CA3.D5196B60-- NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net From lindaguy@qwest.net Sun Jul 15 17:00:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:00:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Acacias poolside References: <200107150123.f6F1N6F13000@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B51CC17.64E59B8@qwest.net> Our publication on the topic http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1058.pdf does list the acacia salicina as an acceptable tree near a pool. The acacia saligna is not. I'm not sure where you read that a. salicina is not acceptable, and I do not have first hand experience with this tree. A. saligna has a more pendulous drape than a. salicina which has a more erect habit. A. saligna's spring bloom is said to be prolific; perhaps this is why the latter is not on the list of suggested trees. The bloom drop would be a mess in your pool. Both of these acacias are from Australia. And they are leguminous, but I don't know anything about pod drop. The above mentioned publication which is online would be a good resource for you to start with. Gardening in the Desert [M. Irish] and Native Plants for SW Gardens [J. Mielke] are also good books. Avoid acacias from Africa which have tiny, tiny leaflets...you will contend with all three drops from leaves, flowers and pods in their seasons. I have a.smallii and I treasure the scent and admire the colorful carpet that changes throughout the year. I do NOT, however, have a pool to maintain! Linda Guy, MG reyesr@u.arizona.edu wrote: > I recently purchased an acacia salicina tree. The gentleman at the nursery said that it was a good tree to plant next to a pool because the roots are not "aggressive." I read on your web site in the description of this tree that it is "not good near pool." Why is this tree one that should not be planted by a pool? Can you recommend one or two trees that will be compatable with a pool. I also planted a prunus cerasifera flowering plum near the pool. Good or bad idea? Thanks for your help. Richard Reyes Tucson, AZ. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Sun Jul 15 17:04:41 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:04:41 -0000 Subject: FW: [Arid_gardener] Small Tree Message-ID: John Begeman's column in today's Arizona Daily Star(Tucson) has some suggestions for small trees. These "standard" (trained as trees)shrubs include: xylosma (I think this is a beautiful small tree; 15-20 feet) oleander (very attractive; 15-20 feet) Texas olive 10-12 feet Japanese privet 10-12 feet Mexican bird of paradise 10-12 feet pittosporum (mock orange) 6-10 feet photinia 6-10 feet Indian hawthorn ("Majestic Beauty")6-10 feet the article can be found at: http://ag.arizona.edu/gardening/news/articles/1.16.html Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Ursula Miller" >To: >CC: >Subject: FW: [Arid_gardener] Small Tree >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 17:15:04 -0700 > >This person e-mailed me directly and said that they want a small tree for >shade, so my answer about the hibiscus didn't help them. Maybe someone who >knows trees can help them out. > >Ursula > >-----Original Message----- >From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu >[mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:55 PM >To: eavance@netzero.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > >My suggestion is not a tree, but a shrub - if you have room for it. I >would >suggest hibiscus. It is green year-round, doesn't require too much fussing >and has lovely flowers. The height is a little less than 8 feet (6-7 feet) >and the width is fairly well contained if you do some occasional trimming >near the bottom of the bush. I have some hibiscus at my house but I also >own some property in a condo complex where the landscaper has planted >hibiscus bushes here and there. They make the place look nice and lush and >since landscapers don't like foliage that requires a lot of fussing on >their >part, you can be sure that the landscaper would not have planted these >plants if he thought that there'd be a lot of work on his part. :-) > >Ursula Miller >Not a Master Gardener > >-----Original Message----- >From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu >[mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of >eavance@netzero.net >Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:57 PM >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > >I want to plant a small tree near my condo courtyard. I want it to keep >its >leaves year round. I want something that doesn't require a lot of care. >Can you help me? By small I mean about 8 to 10 feet. Thanks > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Sun Jul 15 17:09:16 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:09:16 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] killing soil borne diseases Message-ID: Details for soil solarization are found at: http://ag.arizona.edu/gardening/news/articles/12.8.html It is better to use clear plastic, not black. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "the Nabors" >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] killing soil borne diseases >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:30:33 -0700 > >Will covering my tomato patch with black plastic kill the >soil borne disease that is wiping out my tomatoes? (I hope so) I don't >really have anywhere else to plant them. I have tried the >resistant varieties but they still die off. > >Jennifer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lindaguy@qwest.net Sun Jul 15 17:24:58 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:24:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Small Tree References: Message-ID: <3B51D1EA.E1D65AFC@qwest.net> Ursulla is on the right track in suggesting a shrub. Unless you are dealing with a dwarf, trees are, by most people's definition, larger than the space you are dealing with. Or folks will try to plant a small specimen, only to find it grows out of its area all too soon. Many native and adapted shrubs that grow to 10-15' can be trained into a tree shape. Texas Mountain Laurel [Sophora secundiflora], Arizona and other Rosewoods [Vauquelinias], Guajillo [Acacia berlandieri], some orchid trees [Bauhinias], and dwarf citrus. I'd even try Texas Ebony [Pithecellobium flexicaule] simply because it is SUCH a slow grower with limited water, but make no mistake, it is a tree eventually. Yellow Bells [Tecoma stans], and Palo Blanco [Acacia willardiana] are other examples, but are deciduous. All of these will grow somewhat beyond your 8' limit and will require at least annual pruning. If it is a shady area, consider houseplants such as rubber trees. Linda Guy, MG Ursula Miller wrote: > This person e-mailed me directly and said that they want a small tree for > shade, so my answer about the hibiscus didn't help them. Maybe someone who > knows trees can help them out. > > Ursula > > -----Original Message----- > From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu > [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Ursula Miller > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:55 PM > To: eavance@netzero.net; arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > My suggestion is not a tree, but a shrub - if you have room for it. I would > suggest hibiscus. It is green year-round, doesn't require too much fussing > and has lovely flowers. The height is a little less than 8 feet (6-7 feet) > and the width is fairly well contained if you do some occasional trimming > near the bottom of the bush. I have some hibiscus at my house but I also > own some property in a condo complex where the landscaper has planted > hibiscus bushes here and there. They make the place look nice and lush and > since landscapers don't like foliage that requires a lot of fussing on their > part, you can be sure that the landscaper would not have planted these > plants if he thought that there'd be a lot of work on his part. :-) > > Ursula Miller > Not a Master Gardener > > -----Original Message----- > From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu > [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of > eavance@netzero.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:57 PM > To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > I want to plant a small tree near my condo courtyard. I want it to keep its > leaves year round. I want something that doesn't require a lot of care. > Can you help me? By small I mean about 8 to 10 feet. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From beachwalker@toast.net Sun Jul 15 17:28:10 2001 From: beachwalker@toast.net (beachwalker@toast.net) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:28:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107151728.f6FHSAF14410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our flower and shrub garden in Phoenix this year has large (up to 20" across) white mushroom like growths. We’ve never had them before. We're afraid they might possibly be poisonous for our dog so we’re digging them up. What are they, and how can we prevent their reoccurrence? Thank you. From lindaguy@qwest.net Sun Jul 15 17:28:51 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:28:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Killing soil borne diseases References: <001101c10cde$82187b00$0101a8c0@pavilion> Message-ID: <3B51D2D3.AD872E73@qwest.net> --------------10C89B73327DD39892E92309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The first question I would ask is if you have positively identified that your tomatoes are being wiped out by a pathogen in the soil. At this time of year, even with lavish care and shade cloth, tomatoes are doing very poorly in the heat of the low desert. Linda Guy, MG the Nabors wrote: > Will covering my tomato patch with black plastic kill thesoil borne > disease that is wiping out my tomatoes? (I hope so) I don'treally have > anywhere else to plant them. I have tried theresistant varieties but > they still die off. Jennifer --------------10C89B73327DD39892E92309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The first question I would ask is if you have positively identified that your tomatoes are being wiped out by a pathogen in the soil. At this time of year, even with lavish care and shade cloth, tomatoes are doing very poorly in the heat of the low desert.

Linda Guy, MG

the Nabors wrote:

Will covering my tomato patch with black plastic kill thesoil borne disease that is wiping out my tomatoes? (I hope so) I don'treally have anywhere else to plant them. I have tried theresistant varieties but they still die off. Jennifer
--------------10C89B73327DD39892E92309-- From Ugoazgirl@cs.com Sun Jul 15 19:40:02 2001 From: Ugoazgirl@cs.com (Ugoazgirl@cs.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:40:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107151940.f6FJe2F22900@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Hello, I want to have a vegetable garden. I have never had an edible garden before. Are there any classes available for beginners? From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 16 00:53:08 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:53:08 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] vegetable gardening classes Message-ID: If you live in Tucson, the non-profit "Commumity Gardens of Tucson" will be offering classes soon. There are several excellent books as well, especially Desert Gardening for Beginners (1999) (100 pages) $7.95 Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Ugoazgirl@cs.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:40:02 -0700 (MST) > >Hello, > I want to have a vegetable garden. I have never had an edible garden >before. Are there any classes available for beginners? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From happilydevoted@home.com Mon Jul 16 03:08:02 2001 From: happilydevoted@home.com (happilydevoted@home.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:08:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107160308.f6G382F21332@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Do you know where I can purchase organic medicinal plants, seeds and or roots for my home garden? Also, can you recommend a book that teaches how to grow, harvest (in Phoenix) and store medicinal herbs? I have a book titled "The Herbal Epicure". I like it very much but would like a book specific to Phoenix. Thank you for your consideration. From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Mon Jul 16 15:00:24 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Free composting bins References: <20010714212059.6655.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B530188.83DA1482@email.sps.mot.com> --------------1D9426E8B7281E5FF4A76BA6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barbara, I called the City of Chandler on this, and they would not deliver the compost bin. They told me I would have to come and pick it up. I guess there policy has changed... ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Barbara Cenalmor wrote: > The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them > to your house for free. Call the recycling/refuse department. > > Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener. > > Copper Bittner wrote: > > If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to > prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that > has holes drilled all over it. Call your city's water > department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does. > I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers > were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert > presents many different ways of gardening. Check out: > http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html for > information on growing techniques unique to our > area. Welcome and good luck! Copper BittnerMaster Gardener > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------1D9426E8B7281E5FF4A76BA6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barbara,

I called the City of Chandler on this, and they would not deliver the compost bin.  They told me I would  have to come and pick it up.  I guess there policy has changed...

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Alan        Chandler, Arizona        Sunset Zone: 13

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Barbara Cenalmor wrote:

 The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them to your house for free.  Call the recycling/refuse department.

Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener.

  Copper Bittner <copperb@qwest.net> wrote:

If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over it.  Call your city's water department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does.  I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. Check out:  http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html  for information on growing techniques unique to our area. Welcome and good luck! Copper BittnerMaster Gardener


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--------------1D9426E8B7281E5FF4A76BA6-- From cenalmor@yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 15:09:19 2001 From: cenalmor@yahoo.com (Barbara Cenalmor) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Free composting bins In-Reply-To: <3B530188.83DA1482@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <20010716150919.21569.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1032273089-995296159=:19614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ooops, sorry about that...I got mine in February or March, I didn't think the policy would have changed since then. Barbara Alan Zelhart wrote: Barbara, I called the City of Chandler on this, and they would not deliver the compost bin. They told me I would have to come and pick it up. I guess there policy has changed... ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Barbara Cenalmor wrote: The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them to your house for free. Call the recycling/refuse department. Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener. Copper Bittner wrote: If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over it. Call your city's water department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does. I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. Check out: http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html for information on growing techniques unique to our area. Welcome and good luck! Copper BittnerMaster Gardener --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-1032273089-995296159=:19614 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Ooops, sorry about that...I got mine in February or March, I didn't think the policy would have changed since then.

Barbara

  Alan Zelhart <rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com> wrote:

Barbara,

I called the City of Chandler on this, and they would not deliver the compost bin.  They told me I would  have to come and pick it up.  I guess there policy has changed...

-----
Alan        Chandler, Arizona        Sunset Zone: 13

http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm
Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!!

Barbara Cenalmor wrote:

 The city of Chandler also provides free bins, and they deliver them to your house for free.  Call the recycling/refuse department.

Barbara Cenalmor, Master Gardener.

  Copper Bittner <copperb@qwest.net> wrote:

If you are a Phoenix resident (with the city water bill to prove it!), you can get a recycled garbage container that has holes drilled all over it.  Call your city's water department to see if they have a program like Phoenix does.  I got two from Phoenix several years ago and the containers were perfect. Being new to our beautiful Sonoran desert presents many different ways of gardening. Check out:  http://ag.arizona.edu/extension/needinfo/plants.html  for information on growing techniques unique to our area. Welcome and good luck! Copper BittnerMaster Gardener


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http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-1032273089-995296159=:19614-- From terry_haley-kolesar@tempe.gov Mon Jul 16 15:49:06 2001 From: terry_haley-kolesar@tempe.gov (terry_haley-kolesar@tempe.gov) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:49:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107161549.f6GFn6W13061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I'm new to Arizona gardening. What zone are we in? From grounds@tohonochulpark.org Mon Jul 16 15:57:16 2001 From: grounds@tohonochulpark.org (Russ, Bruce and Lee) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:57:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107161549.f6GFn6W13061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <000501c10e0f$fd5fd920$bd5c20d0@server> 9 in the USGS and 12 in the Sunset ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > I'm new to Arizona gardening. What zone are we in? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From PERFLOWERS@aol.com Mon Jul 16 16:36:09 2001 From: PERFLOWERS@aol.com (PERFLOWERS@aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:36:09 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <124.1bb9107.288471f9@aol.com> Phoenix is in zone 13 - it extends south to Casa Grande, which starts zone 12 - it looks like zone 12 starts halfway between Phoenix and Wickenburg - to the east there is a narrow band of zone 12 - then halfway between Phoenix and Globe, Zone 10 starts in. To the west zone 13 extends to Yuma, the zone gradually going to the south. In Sunset Western Garden Book, the 2001 edition, the map for Arizona is on page 61. Val From jbittner@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 16:42:01 2001 From: jbittner@qwest.net (John Bittner) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:42:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107161549.f6GFn6W13061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <019001c10e16$62f86580$0200000a@Micron> Terry, That depends on where in Arizona you live. Arizona is quite diverse and has several zones. Copper Bittner Chandler, AZ MG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > I'm new to Arizona gardening. What zone are we in? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 16:55:09 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:55:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Compost material References: <3B4FB317.ABF8FF21@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B531C6D.4F5861B0@qwest.net> Links of interest include http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/links.htm#compost http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm [check the vegetable/soil sections]. Linda Guy, MG anne bailey wrote: > Please forward instructions for me to build a compost area > in a small backyard. There is room for me to have a > combination cactus garden and some veggies. > > Anne Bailey > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 17:03:30 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:03:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Zone References: <200107161549.f6GFn6W13061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B531E62.F0037B8A@qwest.net> Assuming from your email address that you live in Tempe, you are in 'climate' zone 13 in the Sunset Western Garden Book [see pages 42-43] or zone 9 per the USDA 'hardiness' zone 9. If you don't live in the Phoenix area, you can do a zone search on your zip code with the locator function at http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.html Linda Guy, MG terry_haley-kolesar@tempe.gov wrote: > I'm new to Arizona gardening. What zone are we in? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 17:06:08 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:06:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Organic Herbs References: <200107160308.f6G382F21332@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B531EFF.84694B76@qwest.net> There are some locally grown organic herbs at Baker Nursery in East Central Phoenix [Arcadia neighborhood]. The Arizona Herb Association is a very good group to affiliate with http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/clubs/clubs.htm They have two herb books for sale. Other references can be found at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/library/ref-grdn.htm Linda Guy, MG happilydevoted@home.com wrote: > Do you know where I can purchase organic medicinal plants, seeds and or roots for my home garden? Also, can you recommend a book that teaches how to grow, harvest (in Phoenix) and store medicinal herbs? I have a book titled "The Herbal Epicure". I like it very much but would like a book specific to Phoenix. Thank you for your consideration. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 17:12:00 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:12:00 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lime die back References: <200107100024.f6A0OTF18130@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B53205F.E2556388@qwest.net> I'm hardly a citrus expert, but you've not received a reply so I'll give it a shot. Limes are extremely cold sensitive as contrasted with oranges and lemons. That is why they are not grown in Phoenix commercially. A backyard can handle limes if they are placed in particularly warm microclimates, out of cold winds. We just finished a colder winter than we've had in a few years. Could it be that you had some exposure Jan/Feb that caused this trouble? If you think that's the case, you need to commit to frost protection if you replant a lime tree in the same space, or choose a hardier citrus. Check out AZ 1001 for a discussion of this topic. Linda Guy, MG kdjeal@cs.com wrote: > I have an established lime tree (planted four years ago) that has produced heavily for three years. One month ago while covered in newly set fruit, first one of the major limbs rapidly died followed soon after by the other. The rootstock appears to be intact and has now thrown up shoots. What could be the cause? I am on the SRP flood irrigation system and I do not think that yhe tree became particularly stressed. Have I some infestation and would it be safe to plant another lime in the same location? On one side I have an orange tree and on the other side a lemon. Both of these are healthy and are covered in fruit. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 16 17:16:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:16:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tangerine care References: <200107111846.f6BIkdF04685@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B532184.295ABD87@qwest.net> It could be poor watering practice, or lack of fertilization. Plus, you don't know what the prior owner's care practices were. In theory, the tree does its own fruit thinning early spring, and we often get questions about it from worried homeowners. To get up to speed on citrus care try the following links http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Citrus http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/library/ref-citr.htm You'll want to put down one of the three recommended annual fertilizer applications around Labor Day. Linda Guy, MG hassettall@aol.com wrote: > i have a tangerine tree that bore very small > fruit last year-my first year in az- the new fruit is about the size of golf balls in clusters of three--if i remove one or two of the fruit -would that make the remaining ones larger thank you for your answer > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From phg@citieswestpub.com Mon Jul 16 18:41:12 2001 From: phg@citieswestpub.com (phg@citieswestpub.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:41:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107161841.f6GIfBW14061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> When's the best time of year to plant cat's claw? I planted two last November in an area where oleanders once grew and a block wall now is located. They both died, although the soil seems pretty fertile. Any suggestions? From pmason@flipchip.com Mon Jul 16 18:45:25 2001 From: pmason@flipchip.com (pmason@flipchip.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:45:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107161845.f6GIjOW14962@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please recommend a liquid pre-emergent for use in rock landscaping areas. Thank you. From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 16 19:19:29 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:19:29 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] pre-emergent Message-ID: We have used a product called Amaze as a pre-emergent in decomposed granite. Seems to work well and is pretty easy to apply. >From: pmason@flipchip.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:45:25 -0700 (MST) > >Please recommend a liquid pre-emergent for use in rock landscaping areas. > >Thank you. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 16 19:37:55 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:37:55 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] peaches, ripening Message-ID: The peaches you buy in the grocery are picked firm. You can ripen them in a paper bag for a day or two. Try a few of your peaches this way and see if they will ripen in the paper bag in one or two days. >From: mincen@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:35:29 -0700 (MST) > >I have peaches on my peach tree for the first time without the birds >getting them first. Can you pick the peaches early and let them sit in a >window to ripen? I am afraid if I keep them in the tree much longer I will >not get any again. Mindy > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From umiller@azdps.com Mon Jul 16 19:51:04 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:51:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pre-emergent Weed Killer In-Reply-To: <200107161845.f6GIjOW14962@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: Another pre-emergent that has worked well for me and was recommended by one of the arid-gardener people is Weed Stopper by Monterey. This comes as a pre-emergent and a post-emergent. It's orange, so you can see where you've sprayed. (The orange comes off when you hose it down.) You can also mix post-emergents such as Round-Up with it. You can find information about it at their web site http://www.montereylawngarden.com/products/weeds.html. Ursula Miller -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of pmason@flipchip.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:45 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Please recommend a liquid pre-emergent for use in rock landscaping areas. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjefferds@earthlink.net Mon Jul 16 22:00:55 2001 From: sjefferds@earthlink.net (sjefferds@earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:00:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107162200.f6GM0tW26228@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Bought my house in December and soon discovered the reason the water just sat, black plastic under the rock. I immediately removed the plastic as I hoped to garden. Dave Owens (Ch 3 Garden Guy) advised that I might want to try above ground planter boxes and straight compost, essentially ignoring the sterile ground underneath. I tried and they worked reasonably well, lots of tomatoes, basil and squash; watermellon and honeydews growing like mad. Now I've built two larger boxes, 4' x 8' each to use for fall and winter crops. As I looked through my gardening book, it recommends mulch everywhere but says to keep the mulch away from the plant stalks. My quandry, do I ignore this part as I'm growing in mulch or do I need to take steps to avoid the stalk/mulch contact? Many items I want to grow also recomment feeding either fish or kelp bi-weekly, is this necesary when growing in straight mulch? Finally, the two new boxes are built but empty. Should I go ahead and continue with the straight mulch or is there another planting material I should go to? Finally finally, is there anywhere I can go to take a class or get advice on garden layout? My entire garden is on the West side of my house in a 9'8" x 52' 2" area, efficency is a must with the limited growing area. Shawn From donhoov@msn.com Mon Jul 16 22:53:08 2001 From: donhoov@msn.com (donhoov@msn.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:53:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107162253.f6GMr8W04375@Ag.Arizona.Edu> What is the best way to kill nut grass without damaging the surrounding area? Thank you for any help you can give. From mishelle@usscreen.com Mon Jul 16 23:32:24 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:32:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ants eating Yard Longs... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010716163138.02933ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Hello, Someone posted the other day about ants eating their Yard Long Beans. I'm having the same problem and it's really making me mad. They just started flowering this weekend, the ants are chewing off the flowers before and beans can grow. I've tried spraying them with Spectracide with no luck. Also- Some of the leaves are drying up. They are getting plenty of water. Please help. Thanks, Mishelle in Tempe From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 17 01:50:32 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:50:32 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Nut Grass Message-ID: <15.173121de.2884f3e8@aol.com> The chemical MANAGE does does a reasonably good job of getting rid of nut grass, it will take more than one application and probably two years.Be sure to folow directions precisely. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From haztaz@ctaz.com Tue Jul 17 02:12:13 2001 From: haztaz@ctaz.com (haztaz@ctaz.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:12:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107170212.f6H2CDW27507@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I found bamboo stalks growing in my tree well. The tree is looking like it is going to die. Leaves are curled and some have fallen off. I pulled the plants and dug out as much of the roots as I could. What can I do to keep the bamboo from getting started? From erjeter@uswest.net Tue Jul 17 03:50:48 2001 From: erjeter@uswest.net (erjeter@uswest.net) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:50:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107170350.f6H3omW08439@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can you advise on the best time or times of year to prune Leucophyllum frutescens. I have a couple of large ones in my yard that tend to outgrow their space and I need to prune them back some about twice a year. I realize that usually it's better not to prune them, but I don't have much alternative as they crowd adjacent plants. Can I prune them relatively severely with an electric hedge trimmer? Many thanks for your help. From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 13:49:49 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 06:49:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ripening Peaches References: <200107142335.f6ENZTF05184@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B54427D.35BDB4C8@qwest.net> I put all my fruit in a multi-tiered basket on the counter, which invariably contains a banana or six. All my produce ripens very well and quickly that way, sometimes too quickly! I remember from some ancient science class that bananas emit something that really does the trick. That's why you can't store flower bulbs in the fridge with them and certain other fruits. Sorry I didn't retain any of the 'weird science' details! Linda Guy, MG mincen@aol.com wrote: > I have peaches on my peach tree for the first time without the birds getting them first. Can you pick the peaches early and let them sit in a window to ripen? I am afraid if I keep them in the tree much longer I will not get any again. Mindy > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 14:07:51 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pruning Leucophyllum frutescens References: <200107170350.f6H3omW08439@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5446B7.1A80282@qwest.net> Johnson's Pruning, Planting & Care [Plants for the Arid West] recommends an annual pruning Jan/Feb. This is generally when I do so, though I've also gone into March. It sounds as if the plant is not the most appropriate for the space in question, since you are having to do so much to contain it. There are smaller versions like 'Compacta' that would probably have been more suitable, although I would hardly call it a dwarf. I like Texas rangers, but see them all too frequently misused in streetscape and shopping malls, where too tight plantings require constant pruning attention. It's such a lovely, albeit big shrub in its natural form, and requires only the occasional thinning to replenish the flowering wood when it has appropriate space. Shearing them, unfortunately, produces stubbly bushes. Although, as you probably already know, they are sturdy enough to withstand even this type of haircut. Prunign practices are well described in the relevant chapter of our MG Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ One other thing you might consider is to water sparingly to reduce abundant growth. Linda Guy, MG erjeter@uswest.net wrote: > Can you advise on the best time or times of year to prune Leucophyllum > frutescens. I have a couple of large ones in my yard that tend to > outgrow their space and I need to prune them back some about twice a > year. I realize that usually it's better not to prune them, but I don't > have much alternative as they crowd adjacent plants. Can I prune them > relatively severely with an electric hedge trimmer? > Many thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 14:15:04 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:15:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Eradicating bamboo References: <200107170212.f6H2CDW27507@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B544868.3FD1FCDD@qwest.net> You could try to spray or paint the shoots with a systemic herbicide like Finale or Roundup. These attack only the plants with which they've come in contact and remain inert in the soil. You will have to permit the shoots to emerge, and to that end, I would suggest watering the area well. Make sure to protect adjacent plant material which is why 'painting' it on may work better. Someone else on the server has suggesting using bottomless milk jugs placed over the targeted plants and spraying into the jug to contain the drift. I'm not sure that the bamboo is the cause of the tree's demise, without more info on age and your cultural practices, as well as noting if anything unusual has happened in the area. Linda Guy, MG haztaz@ctaz.com wrote: > I found bamboo stalks growing in my tree well. The tree is looking like it is going to die. Leaves are curled and some have fallen off. I pulled the plants and dug out as much of the roots as I could. What can I do to keep the bamboo from getting started? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 14:24:40 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:24:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Plants for erosion control References: <200107052111.f65LBpI17703@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B544AA8.F2F9177E@qwest.net> While researching another question I tripped over Acacia redolens 'Prostrata' or prostrate acacia, an Australian native that was recommended for rapid coverage of erosion-prone slopes. Usually 1.5 to 2 feet high by 15 feet wide, there are some derivatives that are more prostrate than others. Like so many other acacias, it has yellow flowers in late winter and is leguminous. Linda Guy, MG rsigler@w3az.net wrote: > What are some good plants for erosion control on steep slopes in an arid environment? Any suggestions hardscape changes to slow erosion? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 14:40:10 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:40:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo Bark-splitting; bees References: <200107112324.f6BNOmF20377@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B544E4A.E7DCED55@qwest.net> Palos are susceptible to bark splitting because they have thin bark. I have read that this can be caused by overwatering and or by having too much water sprayed on the bark. Infection could be introduced through these openings, but good tree care is the usually recommended course of action. Water features invariably lead to the attraction of various forms of wildlife. It's both bane and boon! You might try to some relocation strategies that focus on their home, if this is feasible. From time to time, they nest in nooks and crannies of my porches and overhangs and I try to plug them as a way of encouraging them to move. As always, be cautious of hives in light of the potential for Africanized bees and/or swarming. Linda Guy, MG rcsvail@mindspring.com wrote: > To whom it may concern, > I have been living in Arizona for 17 years and gardening still amazes me...I have two Bird of Paradise and they were planted 5 years ago....They were beautiful for the first three years....Last year and this year they have not filled out and one has barely come back..the blooms aren't as big and the one plant did not bloom...Could you please tell me what the problem is......Also I have a Blue palo Verde tree out front...It is quite big and I noticed this year the trunk has splits in it.....Could you tell me what causes this and will that create a problem..And last I have a small pond in my backyard and this year has attracted many bees.....I do not want to spray by the water as I have several fish...I know bees polenate and are good for the yard but they are becoming a problem....Could you give some advice on how to get rid of them...Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jul 17 14:57:31 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:57:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Compost and Mulch References: <200107162200.f6GM0tW26228@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B54525B.688CCA42@qwest.net> I think you've confused the two terms: mulch does not always equal compost! Mulch, afterall, can be bark chips, newspaper or granite, none of which are growing media [least not until they've decomposed!]. Mulch is a layer of some material that is placed on the soil's surface to both cool/shade the soil and mitigate evaporative loss. Compost is added to soil to enrich it, to promote aeration or water retention. Mulch is highly recommended for warm season plantings, but in the winter, most of us do not use it in our veggie patches because we usually have the winter rains and mostly because the soil can get too cool. I hope this explanation helps a bit. Classes are often posted on our website [see Events on our home page] which links to http://aquinas.agforbes.arizona.edu/garden/ The Desert Botanical Gardens is another source for classes. Linda Guy, MG sjefferds@earthlink.net wrote: > Bought my house in December and soon discovered the reason the water just sat, black plastic under the rock. I immediately removed the plastic as I hoped to garden. > > Dave Owens (Ch 3 Garden Guy) advised that I might want to try above ground planter boxes and straight compost, essentially ignoring the sterile ground underneath. I tried and they worked reasonably well, lots of tomatoes, basil and squash; watermellon and honeydews growing like mad. > > Now I've built two larger boxes, 4' x 8' each to use for fall and winter crops. As I looked through my gardening book, it recommends mulch everywhere but says to keep the mulch away from the plant stalks. My quandry, do I ignore this part as I'm growing in mulch or do I need to take steps to avoid the stalk/mulch contact? Many items I want to grow also recomment feeding either fish or kelp bi-weekly, is this necesary when growing in straight mulch? > > Finally, the two new boxes are built but empty. Should I go ahead and continue with the straight mulch or is there another planting material I should go to? > > Finally finally, is there anywhere I can go to take a class or get advice on garden layout? My entire garden is on the West side of my house in a 9'8" x 52' 2" area, efficency is a must with the limited growing area. > > Shawn > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Efamlie@msn.com Tue Jul 17 15:41:47 2001 From: Efamlie@msn.com (Efamlie@msn.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:41:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107171541.f6HFflW11040@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Having a problem with a AZ Sweet Orange tree. This is the 4th tree I have planted (in same spot) in 12 years. The prior trees "failed to thrive". I convinced myself they were poor grafts...so after a few years....I replanted. However, I have a lemon tree 25 ft. away and it is great! I have tried many things. More fertilizer/less fertilizer..more/less water..etc. I live on a 1/2 acre in Awatukee and none of my other plants or treesplants show any signs of distress or failures/deficiency. Where I live used to be the old International Harvester training grounds...and I have dug up old oil filters on my property. I suspect that there may be some kind of "chemical" beneath this tree that is causing its failure to thrive (guessing!). The leaves appear smaller than normal for a Az Sweet(although green and very limited foliage (1/2 full on top). Also there appears to be a lack of producing any new growth. I haven't seen any new growth later April/early May. I have my trees on a separate water system. They water currently every 2-1/2 weeks for 6 hours. Any suggestions would be most helpful! Thanks very much. From jkandell@email.arizona.edu Tue Jul 17 21:42:28 2001 From: jkandell@email.arizona.edu (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ants eating Yard Longs... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010716163138.02933ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <3B54542200000902@phobos.email.Arizona.EDU> I'm the one who wrote about the ants eating my yard-long beans. It was particularly frustrating because I had read that these beans have no pests in arid climates, so was expecting them to be no-brainers. This year the native stuff (beans and squash) were a disaster and the non-natives (tomatoes, cantalopes) were great successes. Anyway, Michelle, I did have some success by spreading some natural sticky stuff around the base of the yard-long-bean stems. This stopped the ants! I forget the name of the stuff, but it looks and feels like rubber cement. It is intended for tree trunks. I never use pesticides, in my experience this does more harm than good. Ants aren't too resistant to that anyway. If you find any solution to this problem let me know because I was looking forward to these beans. Jonathan -- Original Message -- >Hello, >Someone posted the other day about ants eating their Yard Long Beans. I'm > >having the same problem and it's really making me mad. They just started > >flowering this weekend, the ants are chewing off the flowers before and > >beans can grow. I've tried spraying them with Spectracide with no luck. > >Also- Some of the leaves are drying up. They are getting plenty of water. > >Please help. >Thanks, >Mishelle in Tempe > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From chapjb@home.com Tue Jul 17 22:15:29 2001 From: chapjb@home.com (chapjb@home.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:15:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107172215.f6HMFTW21873@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I dont know much about desert trees, but something tells me something might be wrong with my palo verde tree. There are several openings in the bark along the branches, not the trunk. There is no fluid draining, but in several areas of the tree, including the trunk, it looks like brown water spots under the bark. It still has healthy looking leaves and is producing new branches. Is there something I should do for this tree? Also, in reading notes on this site, it looks like we should not spray pruning seal on these trees when pruning--true? Thanks for your help. From rcsvail@mindspring.com Tue Jul 17 22:26:49 2001 From: rcsvail@mindspring.com (rcsvail@mindspring.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:26:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107172226.f6HMQnW23579@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dear Lynda Guy, Thank You for your quick response as you were very helpful to my situations. You informed me as to why my Palo Verde tree has splits in the bark. My question is do I need to fill in those cracks and if so what do you recommend? THANK YOU! From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 17 23:32:18 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:32:18 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orange tree dying Message-ID: I would certainly be very suspicious of a chemical spill after having found a buried oil filter on your property and especially since you have already lost three trees in that spot. I would suggest finding another place for your orange tree or replacing all the dirt that is in the root zone. You don't have to guess about how much fertilizer and water to apply, University of Arizona has already determined that for you. For a mature citrus one should apply a fertilizer that will give you one pound of actual nitrogen per year in three or four applications. For instance, if the fertilizer has an analysis of 21-0-0, 21% nitrogen, then 5 pounds are required for the year. As for irrigation, the 2 1/2 week interval is probably too long for summertime watering, a drought stressed tree will show very little growth. Check out this site for info on citrus irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151.pdf An excellent bulletin titled Citrus Trees In The Home Garden is available for $1.00 from Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener . From cminkner@fastq.com Wed Jul 18 02:33:59 2001 From: cminkner@fastq.com (cminkner@fastq.com) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:33:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107180233.f6I2XxW22061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a problem with cutworms in my vegatable garden. The garden is dormant now. I would like to address this problem with an organic remedy. What would you suggest? Thank you. From theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 03:47:07 2001 From: theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com (john peder) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200107162253.f6GMr8W04375@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <20010718034707.55223.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> I've had great success with a product called manage. Its VERY expensive. --- donhoov@msn.com wrote: > What is the best way to kill nut grass without > damaging the surrounding area? Thank you for any > help you can give. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From blguard@worldnet.att.net Wed Jul 18 16:35:13 2001 From: blguard@worldnet.att.net (blguard@worldnet.att.net) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:35:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107181635.f6IGZDW12481@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have had a chronic problem in one area of our front yard since we moved in 7 years ago. I’ve tried all kinds of plants for a small hedge in the area, including pittosporum, myrtle and Indian Hawthorne. All die within 6 months. Near a wall, we have a Bank’s Rose that’s probably 20 years old and some prostrate Rosemary that are both fine. We also have a flowering plum tree that’s now dropping leaves and appears to be dying. Is it possible that there’s some insect or disease in the soil itself? I’ve tried so many things for plants, but this area is always a problem that I can’t believe it’s anything else. I think the water and sun requirements are okay, and based on the fact that the rest of the yard is okay, I think it’s the soil itself. What could be the trouble? Any suggestions? From DAVIDORWANDA@peoplepc.com Wed Jul 18 17:34:46 2001 From: DAVIDORWANDA@peoplepc.com (Wanda Hill) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:34:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sweet Acacia Message-ID: <000a01c10faf$f28b6680$bf102f04@ibm22761555697> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C10F75.43CA3480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have a sweet acacia that has done beautifully for years. This year = after the fall of the pods, it seems the new leaves are turning very = yellow, brittle and falling off, especially in the recent monsoon winds. = We have not changed any of the watering patterns lately. We do live out = towards the Loop 101 and Camelback where there are still fields, etc. = Is it possible some errant spray from the fields could have gotten to = it. But all out other pine trees surrounding are doing well. Any suggestions! Thank you. Wanda ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C10F75.43CA3480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C10F75.43CA3480-- From penmar0813@cs.com Wed Jul 18 20:15:27 2001 From: penmar0813@cs.com (penmar0813@cs.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:15:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107182015.f6IKFRW21798@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We bought an older home with several older fruit trees on the property. We have an apple tree that bloomed but, did not fruit. We have 2 plum trees that were full of fruit but, not edible. Some type for disease was on the fruit. We also have a peach tree that had 3 peaches on it. Two of the peaches looked contaminated with whatever the plums had however, we were able to eat the other peach. The plum tree touched the peach tree when the plum was loaded with fruit. I think we have a pear tree also, but no fruit. Also, we have a fig tree that has some figs but, is so lanky and in need of severe pruning. We have NO idea what to do to get these neglected trees in shape. Please help me!!!!! From penmar0813@cs.com Wed Jul 18 20:17:11 2001 From: penmar0813@cs.com (penmar0813@cs.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:17:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107182017.f6IKHBW22102@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We bought an older home with several older fruit trees on the property. We have an apple tree that bloomed but, did not fruit. We have 2 plum trees that were full of fruit but, not edible. Some type for disease was on the fruit. We also have a peach tree that had 3 peaches on it. Two of the peaches looked contaminated with whatever the plums had however, we were able to eat the other peach. The plum tree touched the peach tree when the plum was loaded with fruit. I think we have a pear tree also, but no fruit. Also, we have a fig tree that has some figs but, is so lanky and in need of severe pruning. We have NO idea what to do to get these neglected trees in shape. Please help me!!!!! Sincerely, Penny Bragg From penmar0813@cs.com Wed Jul 18 20:17:55 2001 From: penmar0813@cs.com (penmar0813@cs.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:17:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107182017.f6IKHtW22202@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We bought an older home with several older fruit trees on the property. We have an apple tree that bloomed but, did not fruit. We have 2 plum trees that were full of fruit but, not edible. Some type for disease was on the fruit. We also have a peach tree that had 3 peaches on it. Two of the peaches looked contaminated with whatever the plums had however, we were able to eat the other peach. The plum tree touched the peach tree when the plum was loaded with fruit. I think we have a pear tree also, but no fruit. Also, we have a fig tree that has some figs but, is so lanky and in need of severe pruning. We have NO idea what to do to get these neglected trees in shape. Please help me!!!!! Sincerely, Penny Bragg From rkausal@aol.com Wed Jul 18 20:43:38 2001 From: rkausal@aol.com (rkausal@aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:43:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107182043.f6IKhcW26185@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have recently learned that my five year old Chow Chow is allergic to rye grass. Is there an alternative winter grass that will work here in Tempe? I realize that this will not totally eliminate his exposure but a great deal of his time is spent her in our yard and we really do want to have a winter lawn for him. Ant advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Richard From rliesen@yahoo.com Wed Jul 18 20:46:52 2001 From: rliesen@yahoo.com (rliesen@yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:46:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107182046.f6IKkqW26795@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Are Anaheim chile plants perennial? Thanks for any help. Mickey From RkBetu@aol.com Wed Jul 18 22:11:09 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:11:09 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ants eating Yard Longs... Message-ID: <127.19cbcd9.2887637d@aol.com> Living rural in the desert, I've had to battle ants in certain years, especially the small black/brown biting ones (a type of fire ant, whose nests are often hard to find). With grandkids and pets, and a love of nature, I hate to use pesticides. I've found a great way to get rid of many ants (and other insects). Good old boric acid again. Mix the boric acid with a little honey water. Put the mixture in can lids to set out where kids and pets can't get at 'em. I also use aluminum cans, cut down by about a third. Put tape around the outside so the ants can crawl up. These can be hung from plants, fences, etc. Ants eat, go home and die. Rocki From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 18 23:54:59 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:54:59 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sweet Acacia Message-ID: Wanda, The Sweet Acacia is reasonably troublefree and doesn't require a lot of water, however the yellow brittle leaves could indicate too much water. I would suggest deep watering this tree every three to four weeks in summer. Check out this site for info on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 18 23:54:57 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:54:57 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Shrubs dying Message-ID: <1e.18bae923.28877bd1@aol.com> If your shrubs had a full sun location, the Indian Hathorne and the Pittosporum should have some shade especially afternoon. The plum tree that is dropping its leaves is most likely stressed, and my first thought would be drought stress. Is it getting enough water? Check out this site for info on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html There could be nematodes in the soil and Texas Root Rot, a fungus which causes the roots to rot, could have caused the demise of your shrubs. A lab examination of dead or dying tree roots would confirm Texas Root Rot and also identify the presence of nematodes. Bring a fresh root sample ( about 10 inches by 1/2 inch ) to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for an examination. Other things that could have caused problems are a chemical spill or spraying with a soil sterilent, or caliche in the soil or root interferance from a neighbor's tree. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From chicnjohn@hotmail.com Thu Jul 19 06:47:53 2001 From: chicnjohn@hotmail.com (chicnjohn@hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:47:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107190647.f6J6lrW06008@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My bougainvilla is several years old and blooms pretty well but hardly has any leaves. It's scrawny and has grown very little in 6 or 7 years. What do I need to do to make it grow better? Do I need fertilizer or what? From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 14:32:15 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:32:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fruit Trees References: <200107182015.f6IKFRW21798@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B56EF6E.2A8A6EDD@qwest.net> A good place to start educating yourself on the requirements of fruit trees would be the chapter of the same name in the Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ There is also a chapter on pruning to help you with your fig tree. My neighbor's fig, which is always in my yard :) is deciduous and I usually prune it in February before it starts leafing out again. You could probably start with a little shaping now, but too much and you might cause a bit of sun damage. Figs fruit twice a year on old wood, then on new wood. Figs do pretty well here, and we have a publication on them [MC 23] that you can order at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm As to the other fruit trees, it could be that they're so old that recovery efforts would best be redirected to selecting and installing varieties appropriate to the low desert conditions. If I recall correctly from previous notes on the server, many deciduous fruit trees last maybe 10-15 years. Hopefully, other server members will have personal experiences to share with you. Linda Guy, MG penmar0813@cs.com wrote: > We bought an older home with several older fruit trees on the property. We have an apple tree that bloomed but, did not fruit. We have 2 plum trees that were full of fruit but, not edible. Some type for disease was on the fruit. We also have a peach tree that had 3 peaches on it. Two of the peaches looked contaminated with whatever the plums had however, we were able to eat the other peach. The plum tree touched the peach tree when the plum was loaded with fruit. I think we have a pear tree also, but no fruit. Also, we have a fig tree that has some figs but, is so lanky and in need of severe pruning. We have NO idea what to do to get these neglected trees in shape. Please help me!!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 14:39:12 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:39:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Anaheim Chiles References: <200107182046.f6IKkqW26795@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B56F110.E8D0A8A2@qwest.net> They can become perennial if they are well protected and make it through the cooler times of the winter. I've never even tried it since I want all the space for my usually abundant winter veggies. So I can't share personal experience about fruit production in year 2 or beyond. Perhaps someone else will. Linda Guy, MG rliesen@yahoo.com wrote: > Are Anaheim chile plants perennial? Thanks for any help. Mickey > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 14:44:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:44:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pruning Leucophyllum frutescens References: <200107170350.f6H3omW08439@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3B5446B7.1A80282@qwest.net> <3B54FC48.A97ABFB@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3B56F264.51E96162@qwest.net> One of the most difficult stages of being a gardener is learning to admit when a plant isn't working in a particular spot and having the courage to replace it. I empathize completely, but am glad to say that after many years of struggling with this, I've finally reached a point where I do change the plants in my yard, sometimes more often than I'd expect. Would it help you to consider your yards as a laboratory or works in process instead of finished goods? I will often try to use the displaced plants in another setting or give them away. Texas ranger is pretty sturdy and if you wait until about October to dig them up, could you relocate them someplace else where there natural structure can just be unleashed? The root zone may well be too large for this option, however. Good luck. Linda Edgar Jeter wrote: > Thanks Linda, > > Unfortunately I "inherited" these two plants when I bought the house and > can't bring myself to get rid of them. > > Linda Guy wrote: > > > > Johnson's Pruning, Planting & Care [Plants for the Arid West] recommends an > > annual pruning Jan/Feb. This is generally when I do so, though I've also > > gone into March. It sounds as if the plant is not the most appropriate for > > the space in question, since you are having to do so much to contain it. > > There are smaller versions like 'Compacta' that would probably have been > > more suitable, although I would hardly call it a dwarf. > > > > I like Texas rangers, but see them all too frequently misused in streetscape > > and shopping malls, where too tight plantings require constant pruning > > attention. It's such a lovely, albeit big shrub in its natural form, and > > requires only the occasional thinning to replenish the flowering wood when > > it has appropriate space. Shearing them, unfortunately, produces stubbly > > bushes. Although, as you probably already know, they are sturdy enough to > > withstand even this type of haircut. Prunign practices are well described in > > the relevant chapter of our MG Manual at > > http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ > > > > One other thing you might consider is to water sparingly to reduce abundant > > growth. > > > > Linda Guy, MG > > > > erjeter@uswest.net wrote: > > > > > Can you advise on the best time or times of year to prune Leucophyllum > > > frutescens. I have a couple of large ones in my yard that tend to > > > outgrow their space and I need to prune them back some about twice a > > > year. I realize that usually it's better not to prune them, but I don't > > > have much alternative as they crowd adjacent plants. Can I prune them > > > relatively severely with an electric hedge trimmer? > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Arid_gardener mailing list > > > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 15:00:19 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 08:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pet Grass Allergies References: <200107182043.f6IKhcW26185@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B56F603.74FC948E@qwest.net> A winter turf usually means that you already have a bermuda base for the summer months. If so, the first thing I would do is ask the vet to determine the dog's resistance to bermuda, which is more likely to be allergenic. [My dog is similar, but the allergy is bermuda.] Then you can decide what to do about the turf in general. For human critters, options include bermuda hybrids in lieu of common bermuda. As to the rye issue, you may need to forego a winter lawn to keep you puppy happier. There are 3 types of rye [annual, perennial and hybrid], as well as tall fescue and Kentucky bluegrass. See the relevant section in the turf chapter of our Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/lawns/cold.html Unfortunately, there is no discussion of the allergenic properties. Linda Guy, MG rkausal@aol.com wrote: > I have recently learned that my five year old Chow Chow is allergic to rye grass. Is there an alternative winter grass that will work here in Tempe? I realize that this will not totally eliminate his exposure but a great deal of his time is spent her in our yard and we really do want to have a winter lawn for him. Ant advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you, > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 16:03:48 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:03:48 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo Verde Bark-splitting Message-ID: <3B5704E3.869051A9@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8A4124701478CA11D97919CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a palo brea with the same problem and it is healthy and thriving without any sealant on the areas where the bark has split. Since palos have this propensity, is it sufficient to maintain the tree's general good health? Or does anyone out there have specific cultural practices for this issue with palos? Thanks in advance for me and the querent! Linda --------------8A4124701478CA11D97919CD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: lindaguy@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 714 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2001 22:26:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.uswest.net (63.226.138.1) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 22:26:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 993 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jul 2001 22:26:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Ag.Arizona.Edu) (128.196.42.70) by mail1.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 22:26:52 -0000 Received: from Ag.Arizona.Edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6HMR4W23652; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:27:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from ag.arizona.edu (Ag.Arizona.Edu [128.196.42.70]) by Ag.Arizona.Edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f6HMQnW23579 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:26:49 -0700 (MST) Errors-To: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:26:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200107172226.f6HMQnW23579@Ag.Arizona.Edu> From: rcsvail@mindspring.com Sender: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu X-Originating-URL: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page X-BeenThere: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gardening and Landscaping in Dry Climates List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Dear Lynda Guy, Thank You for your quick response as you were very helpful to my situations. You informed me as to why my Palo Verde tree has splits in the bark. My question is do I need to fill in those cracks and if so what do you recommend? THANK YOU! _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener --------------8A4124701478CA11D97919CD-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 16:16:44 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:16:44 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palos Bark-splitting References: <200107172215.f6HMFTW21873@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5707EC.E5FE36AE@qwest.net> You have just jumped in during a discussion with another party on the same topic! Palos have thin bark hence this propensity for the bark to split. My palo brea does the same thing as yours, including the pale brown staining here and there. I have read that bark splitting increases with too much water or when the bark is sprayed with water, and that maintaining overall tree health is the ticket. But I've also asked other server members to respond with their experiences in terms of using sealants. I too was trained that one rarely uses a sealant on pruning cuts, but where the bark splits, well, I'm not so sure..... I've just reread the relevant section in M. Irish's book and because of the sensitive bark and the tree's overall susceptibility to cold, pruning is recommended in warmer months [Johnson's recommends June] to allow the scar to heal in the tree's growth period. Hopefully we'll have some more input for you soon. Linda Guy, MG chapjb@home.com wrote: > I dont know much about desert trees, but something tells me something might be wrong with my palo verde tree. There are several openings in the bark along the branches, not the trunk. There is no fluid draining, but in several areas of the tree, including the trunk, it looks like brown water spots under the bark. It still has healthy looking leaves and is producing new branches. Is there something I should do for this tree? Also, in reading notes on this site, it looks like we should not spray pruning seal on these trees when pruning--true? > Thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 16:40:21 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:40:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: Pet Grass Allergies] Message-ID: <3B570D75.78AA8E86@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------97ABD2C90AC8B2C5FE214208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is now beyond my knowledge. Can anyone help Mr. Kausal? --------------97ABD2C90AC8B2C5FE214208 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: lindaguy@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 22409 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2001 15:31:01 -0000 Received: from mail7.uswest.net (63.226.138.7) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2001 15:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 41109 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2001 15:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mail7.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2001 15:31:00 -0000 Received: from RKausal@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.7.) id z.112.1e029cb (3700) for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:29:40 EDT Message-ID: <112.1e029cb.288856e4@aol.com> From: RKausal@aol.com To: lindaguy@qwest.net Subject: Re: Pet Grass Allergies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_112.1e029cb.288856e4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10532 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_112.1e029cb.288856e4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Linda: Thank you for your quick response, I appreciate it. Boris tests negative to Bermuda grass, he shows no reaction to it. We have Mid-iron hybrid down and have overseeded with Perennial rye in the past. Unfortunately, he also tests positive to Blue/June grass as well as Fescue. The following grasses tested negative for him: Orchard, Bermuda, Redtop, Timothy, and Brome. Do you know if any of these can work as an overseeded winter lawn? We're not familiar with any of them. I'm guessing that we'll have to let the lawn go in the winter which we'd rather not do. Thank you, Richard Kausal --part1_112.1e029cb.288856e4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Linda:

Thank you for your quick response, I appreciate it.  Boris tests negative to
Bermuda grass, he shows no reaction to it.  We have Mid-iron hybrid down and
have overseeded with Perennial rye in the past.  Unfortunately, he also tests
positive to Blue/June grass as well as Fescue.  The following grasses tested
negative for him:
Orchard, Bermuda, Redtop, Timothy, and Brome.

Do you know if any of these can work as an overseeded winter lawn?  We're not
familiar with any of them.  I'm guessing that we'll have to let the lawn go
in the winter which we'd rather not do.

Thank you,
Richard Kausal --part1_112.1e029cb.288856e4_boundary-- --------------97ABD2C90AC8B2C5FE214208-- From schmohr@qwest.net Thu Jul 19 18:16:54 2001 From: schmohr@qwest.net (schmohr@qwest.net) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:16:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107191816.f6JIGsW17080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a mole, gopher or calif squirrel working under my Brittle Bush. How do I get rid of him? He has tunneled under the bush and the bush is dying. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 19 22:38:13 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:38:13 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gopher Removal Message-ID: <36.18c7a249.2888bb55@aol.com> You could try trapping him, using poisoned bait, or as I do inserting a lighted highway flare in his hole and covering with dirt. The highway flare usually gets the culprit. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 19 22:38:12 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:38:12 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bougainvillea Message-ID: Once Bougainvillea has become established it requires very little water or fertilizer. One thing it does need in order to flower best is a location where it gets full sun. Ocassionally a plant will show up that just does not want to grow or flower. In that case I just replace it. Care must be taken when planting Bougainvillea to plant without disturbing the roots. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RkBetu@aol.com Fri Jul 20 04:09:35 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:09:35 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Anaheim Chiles Message-ID: It depends on winter weather, but I have had a variety of chili peppers that just keep on growing. My oldest, paprika, sweet yellows, jalapeno, and one anaheim, are in big pots (half barrels), and are now 3 years old and producing more than I can pick. They get frostbit, but come back. They are outside in a semi-sheltered location (many other plants, under or next to a latticed porch). I live west of Phoenix where it does get colder. I have done nothing special to protect them in winter. Rocki From dlcunk@hotmail.com Sat Jul 21 20:52:24 2001 From: dlcunk@hotmail.com (dlcunk@hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 13:52:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107212052.f6LKqOW19035@Ag.Arizona.Edu> when is the correct time to trim pine trees? From lizjaklin@yahoo.com Sat Jul 21 21:20:46 2001 From: lizjaklin@yahoo.com (lizjaklin@yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:20:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107212120.f6LLKkW20761@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our local nurseryman identified a tree in our yard as a Mexican Ebony. Is there any remedy to prevent the pods from occurring???? We tried one application of Olive Stop in the spring when the tree was flowering....to no avail. One neighbor suggested we should have applied two applications. The foliage is fern-like, light and airy and the tree produces long thin brown pods approx. 6-8" long. The tree is 3 yrs old and taller than our one story home, producing some nice shade on the SW corner of our home. The issue is the zillions of pods that scamper in the wind, populating the neighborhood. If the pods dropped all at once, it wouldn't be so bad; is there a product to cause instant pod drop?? It is very difficult to remove saplings inbedded in our barrel catcus and other existing shrubs. What are your suggestions? We are considering removing the tree (which breaks my heart to kill it) and replacing it with a Desert Museum Palo Verde (which breaks my pocketbook!) I live in Fountain Hills and appreciate your time and expertise. Regards-Liz Jaklin From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 22 00:29:37 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:29:37 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pine Trees, pruning Message-ID: <3b.17b40052.288b7871@aol.com> Pine trees should be pruned in late winter or early spring. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 22 00:30:30 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:30:30 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pod Drop on Mexican Ebony Message-ID: <114.1f71565.288b78a6@aol.com> Liz, I have not heard of Olive Stop being used sucessfully on anything but olive trees. Since you have already used the Olive Stop on your Mexican Ebony a second application probably wouldn't do any harm. You said that you planned to replace your tree with a Palo Verde, this also has pods. I hate to see such a beautiful shade tree cut down, I hope you will reconsider. As for removing saplings from among cacti and shrubs, I just cut them off as close to the ground as possible, but this usually does not kill them. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From SHIRL-DAVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sun Jul 22 02:04:40 2001 From: SHIRL-DAVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET (SHIRL-DAVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:04:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107220204.f6M24eW08426@Ag.Arizona.Edu> DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECIPE FOR PRICKLY PEAR JAM? I TRIED MAKING SOME LAST YEAR AND IT NEVER JELLED IT WAS LIKE SYRUP. I ADDED THE AMOUNT OF PECTIN MY RECIPE CALLED FOR BUT NO LUCK. THANKS ANYONE WHO IS ABLE TO HELP ME. From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 22 05:05:13 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 22:05:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prickly Pear Jelly References: <200107220204.f6M24eW08426@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5A5F08.CFD1C762@qwest.net> You can view a recipe from the Arizona Republic at: http://www.azcentral.com/home/food/0816jelly.html Sue Bass SHIRL-DAVE@worldnet.att.net wrote: > DOES ANYONE HAVE A RECIPE FOR PRICKLY PEAR JAM? I TRIED MAKING SOME LAST YEAR AND IT NEVER JELLED IT WAS LIKE SYRUP. I ADDED THE AMOUNT OF PECTIN MY RECIPE CALLED FOR BUT NO LUCK. THANKS ANYONE WHO IS ABLE TO HELP ME. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jpetra24@earthlink.net Sun Jul 22 23:54:11 2001 From: jpetra24@earthlink.net (jpetra24@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:54:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107222354.f6MNsBW02167@Ag.Arizona.Edu> 2 months ago when it was really hot(115F) my 4 year old well established ficus nitida tree started to wilt. I called a nursery and talked to an arborist and he told me to water it extensively. Within 1 week the tree was brown and totally dead. I started seeing a white growth around the base in the dirt. It feels like a mushroom. Obviously it is a fungus. Now another one of my trees about the same size and about 15 feet from the first one is starting to wilt. I have seen a small patch of the same fungus near the tree. jWhat can I use to stop the tree from dying?? From bbonvil@earthlink.net Mon Jul 23 01:11:37 2001 From: bbonvil@earthlink.net (bbonvil@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:11:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107230111.f6N1BbW07255@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I live in the northwest valley in Sun City Grand. We are just about 3 miles north of a huge vinyard just off the 303. They have Thompson and what they called Flame Seedless grapes. We bought some and they were wonderful. We are interested in growing some on our patio and don't know where to buy the vines. Can you help us. Thank you Bob and Linda Bonville From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Mon Jul 23 02:40:04 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:40:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107230111.f6N1BbW07255@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <005501c11320$c7e465c0$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> The University of Arizona, Cooperative Extension Fact Sheet MC 59 "Backyard Grapes" is available at the Master Gardner Office in the PORA building at 13815 Camino del Sol in Sun City West. In January the University of Arizona holds a citrus clinic at their Research Farm in Waddell. One of the topics covered is grape propagation and care. When they demonstrate the pruning of grapes, they will let you take some canes for propagation. Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > I live in the northwest valley in Sun City Grand. We are just about 3 miles north of a huge vinyard just off the 303. They have Thompson and what they called Flame Seedless grapes. We bought some and they were wonderful. We are interested in growing some on our patio and don't know where to buy the vines. Can you help us. > > Thank you > > Bob and Linda Bonville > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From wundernana@uswest.net Mon Jul 23 12:50:16 2001 From: wundernana@uswest.net (wundernana@uswest.net) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 05:50:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107231250.f6NCoGW04404@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have an orange tree that is looking really rugged. It's a great producer with wonderful oranges. The age is about 25 years. the question is: What is the life of an orange tree? I'm afraid that I'm losing our wonderful tree and would like to try to save it. All of this year crop has dropped off tree, with major leaf shedding. Thanks From Valerie.Herrera@cox.com Mon Jul 23 15:11:40 2001 From: Valerie.Herrera@cox.com (Valerie.Herrera@cox.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:11:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107231511.f6NFBeW16440@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I wanted to ask a question about Rose's ? My friend works at Home Depot and they were going get rid of some Roses because it was pass the season for planting them so some of them were pretty dry. And I wanted to know if you think we should plant them now or just wait and plaint them in March? I got 7 5gal plants Thank you, Valerie From spravrm@home.com Mon Jul 23 15:20:07 2001 From: spravrm@home.com (spravrm@home.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:20:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107231520.f6NFK7W17721@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I need information on the soil requirements ie: type of soil, watering requirements and fertilizing of Sago Plams (Cycas Revoluta) that are planted in a container Thank you From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 23 15:56:22 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:56:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palm Care References: <200107231520.f6NFK7W17721@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5C4926.1A4A117A@qwest.net> Although sagos are not true palms, their care is discussed at the end of our palm publication [AZ 1021] which you can view at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Linda Guy, MG spravrm@home.com wrote: > I need information on the soil requirements > ie: type of soil, watering requirements and > fertilizing of Sago Plams (Cycas Revoluta) > that are planted in a container > > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jul 23 16:06:09 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:06:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Saguaro Problems References: <200107110354.f6B3sRF01157@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5C4B70.11F66EDA@qwest.net> Since you don't appear to have received a response, permit me to suggest that you contact the Desert Botanical Garden hotline [M-F 10 - 11:30 am, 480/941-1225]. They specialize in natives and succulents and will probably be able to assist you. Good luck. Linda Guy, MG cheeseheads12@aol.com wrote: > I have a large saguaro located by my pool and the last couple of years it has been fading its dark green color. There is no drip system going to it but the color is really worying me. It also seems to have a chocolate streek running up one of the spines. I would greately appreciate any info you can give me. thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Mon Jul 23 18:12:04 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:12:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107231250.f6NCoGW04404@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <00ac01c113a2$fbcf96c0$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Most likely, the problems with your orange tree are related to stress, not age. To make a diagnosis, it would be easiest if you called and talked to a Master Gardener. The telephone number of the main office is 602/470-8086 ext. 301. Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > We have an orange tree that is looking > really rugged. It's a great producer with > wonderful oranges. The age is about 25 years. > > the question is: What is the life of an > orange tree? I'm afraid that I'm losing > our wonderful tree and would like to try to > save it. All of this year crop has dropped > off tree, with major leaf shedding. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 23 23:09:14 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:09:14 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ficus nitida dying Message-ID: <37.184d4148.288e089a@aol.com> The symptoms you describe make me very suspicious of Texas Root Rot. TRR can be confirmed by taking a root sample ( approx 10 X 1/2 inches ) to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for a lab exam. Do not wash the sample, place in a plastic bag and keep as fresh as possible. I have saved several trees by using a treatment described in the U. of A. bulletin on Root Rot In Arizona which is available for $1.00 from the Extension. The treatment consists of applying two inches of composted steer manure to the entire root zone along with one pound per 10 square feet of both amonium sulfate and soil sulfur, spade in and water in well. This treatment is not guaranteed but it has worked for me. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 23 23:09:13 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:09:13 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Orange Tree loosing leaves Message-ID: <18.fb60bc5.288e0899@aol.com> When trees drop their leaves and fruit there usually is stress causing the problem and often the stress is caused by improper irrigation. If you are watering by any method except flood irrigation you should be watering every week to 10 days with enough water to penetrate 3 feet deep which means 6 inches of water. Check out this site for info on irrigating citrus: www.ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151 Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 23 23:09:12 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:09:12 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Roses Message-ID: <11b.1f3dbc5.288e0898@aol.com> Valerie, I would suggest waiting until our weather cools somewhat before planting roses if you live in the low desert. The chances of survival will be much better then. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian From bettykepner@hotmail.com Tue Jul 24 00:29:24 2001 From: bettykepner@hotmail.com (bettykepner@hotmail.com) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:29:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107240029.f6O0TOW22312@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can you tell me about the care of roses in Phoenix in this heat. My roses have brown tipped leaves or no leaves. What is the solution? From sjbass@qwest.net Tue Jul 24 02:02:20 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:02:20 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Summer rose care References: <200107240029.f6O0TOW22312@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5CD72C.D2E63A9C@qwest.net> The following link will take you to a past response to a similar question by Rod McKusick, a Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian. http://ag.arizona.edu/hypermail/arid_gardener/4450.html Sue Bass Master Gardener bettykepner@hotmail.com wrote: > Can you tell me about the care of roses in Phoenix in this heat. My roses have brown tipped leaves or no leaves. What is the solution? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lbradley@sisna.com Tue Jul 24 05:29:11 2001 From: lbradley@sisna.com (Lucy Bradley) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:29:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Looking for a Farmer's Market near you . . . Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010723222816.01caa028@ag.arizona.edu> Check out this website on Farmer's markets in Arizona http://www.ams.usda.gov/farmersmarkets/states/arizona.htm From Jennaz31@aol.com Tue Jul 24 13:53:19 2001 From: Jennaz31@aol.com (Jennaz31@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:53:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241353.f6ODrJW28565@Ag.Arizona.Edu> HELP!!!!!!!!!! I am being invaded by Crickets. There are so many crickets in my garden I bet the number is in the 1000's. Early in the spring I applied a granular chemical, that I guess is supposed to kill the crickets after they eat the plant, I've had my exterminator out several times spraying around and in my house because I would find dozens (I'm not joking) in the folds of my drapery. Thinking that all I can do is cope for now, I definetly want to prevent this outbreak next year. Any suggestions as to what I can apply to the beds etc. when I do soil prep in the fall? They seem to enjoy the vinca--I have lots of healthy plants, but no flowers, they have all been eaten, leaving only the center. The same is true for the moss rose. I am at my end and am heartbroken that all my hard work is providing a wonderful meal for these creatures. Thanks Jenn From blndie444@aol.com Tue Jul 24 15:28:51 2001 From: blndie444@aol.com (blndie444@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:28:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241528.f6OFSpW10218@Ag.Arizona.Edu> how do I care for my new sago palm? I bought it from Costco. It is about 12-14 inches tall, with about 2-3 inches of the rooty bulb standing out of the soil. I really want it to grow and be healthy, so I need to know how much to water it and should it be inside or outside? Thanks. From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Tue Jul 24 16:15:26 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:15:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Sago Palm References: <200107241528.f6OFSpW10218@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <002001c1145b$db946700$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Your Sago, is a cycads [a remnant from the dinosaurs era], not a true palm.You can find the information you want up in the palm publication [AZ 1021] under the ornamentals category at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Look at the last page of the publication information on the Sago. Scott Rogers MG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:28 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > how do I care for my new sago palm? I bought it from Costco. It is about 12-14 inches tall, with about 2-3 inches of the rooty bulb standing out of the soil. I really want it to grow and be healthy, so I need to know how much to water it and should it be inside or outside? Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From bbonvil@earthlink.net Tue Jul 24 16:42:01 2001 From: bbonvil@earthlink.net (Robert Bonville Jr) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 9:42:1 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Arizona Grapes Message-ID: <412001722416421950@earthlink.net> ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am interested in growing some grapes at my home in Sun City Grand. I have visited the vinyards just south of me on the 303 and love the types of grapes they grow there, Thompson Green Seedless and another type they called Flame seedless. Can you help me? Do you know where I can buy some vines? Thank you --- Robert Bonville Jr --- bbonvil@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Hello, I am interested in growing some grapes at my home in Sun City Grand. I have visited the vinyards just south of me on the 303 and love the types of grapes they grow there, Thompson Green Seedless and another type they called Flame seedless. Can you help me? Do you know where I can buy some vines?
 
Thank you
 
--- Robert Bonville Jr
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
 

------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- From cbroughton@wlbgroup.com Tue Jul 24 17:40:58 2001 From: cbroughton@wlbgroup.com (cbroughton@wlbgroup.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:40:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241740.f6OHenW05474@Ag.Arizona.Edu> From cbroughton@wlbgroup.com Tue Jul 24 17:43:29 2001 From: cbroughton@wlbgroup.com (cbroughton@wlbgroup.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:43:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241743.f6OHhSW06055@Ag.Arizona.Edu> do you have a list of trees and shrubs that are resistant to phymatotrichum omnivorum-that's texas root rot/cotton root rot? From cbroughton@wlbgroup.com Tue Jul 24 17:44:17 2001 From: cbroughton@wlbgroup.com (cbroughton@wlbgroup.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:44:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241744.f6OHiHW06227@Ag.Arizona.Edu> do you have a list of trees and shrubs that are resistant to phymatotrichum omnivorum-that's texas root rot/cotton root rot? sincerly cbroughton From ej10817@goodnet.com Tue Jul 17 16:12:03 2001 From: ej10817@goodnet.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:12:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Anyone want to help? Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010717090529.0352ee20@mail.winstarmail.com> --=====================_4444329==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hope I am not out of line here, this came in on a propagation list and knowing how generous and knowledgeable people on this list are, I hope some of you can help. It has been determined that this lady lives in a very hot area and we can relate to that. Thanks to any of you who can help her out, it seems her climate is similar to ours. This is a reply from someone who emailed her: Hello! I emailed her yesterday, and just got a reply today. I forgot to ask her about that, but she sent it along. She says sometimes it's very hot in the Ukraine, today it is 36C in the shade, but usually 26-27C in the summer. Hope that helps. Robin This is the original message: --- Alina wrote: Good day! My name is Alina. I'm from the Ukraine (it used to be a part of Russia). I was shocked by the beauty of your plants, so I decided to write to you. My parents have a plot with no plants and I wanted to ask you to help me to decorate it. But I have 1 great problem. Our countries have very different standard of living, and I'm a student now. This is rediculous, but my "rised" stipend (I'm A'grade student) is $5. I wanted to ask you some seeds 3-5 seeds of 1 or 2 plants or may be you can send me 1 or 2 saplings. I beg you to send me just a simple envelope with some seeds. I will remember it all my life. I so much want to have your beautiful plants! I understand, that my letter is very daring, but I so much liked your plants! And I'm so sorry, that I can't buy them. I belive, that there are a lot of kind people, who can make my dream come true. May be this is you... Thank you ! for your time! I'm looking forward to your answer. Alina. Thank you for your letter! I'll use the mailing list. I'll do my best to grow not surviving, but living plant. My adress is Alina Proskurina Osinovskaya 75 Chuguev Kharkov region the Ukraine 63503 Thank you! Alina. --=====================_4444329==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hope I am not out of line here, this came in on a propagation list and knowing how generous and knowledgeable people on this list are, I hope some of you can help. It has been determined that this lady lives in a very hot area and we can relate to that. Thanks to any of you who can help her out, it seems her climate is similar to ours.

This is a reply from someone who emailed her:
Hello! I emailed her yesterday, and just got a reply today. I forgot to ask her about that, but she sent it along. She says sometimes it's very hot in the Ukraine, today it is 36C in the shade, but usually 26-27C in the summer. Hope that helps. Robin

This is the original message:
--- Alina <agp@ic.kharkov.ua> wrote:
Good day! My name is Alina. I'm from the Ukraine (it
used to be a part of Russia). I was shocked by the
beauty of your plants, so I decided to write to you.
My parents have a plot with no plants and I wanted
to ask you to help me to decorate it. But I have 1
great problem. Our countries have very different
standard of living, and I'm a student now. This is
rediculous, but my "rised" stipend (I'm A'grade
student) is $5. I wanted to ask you some seeds 3-5
seeds of 1 or 2 plants or may be you can send me 1
or 2 saplings. I beg you to send me just  a simple
envelope with some seeds. I will remember it all my
life. I so much want to have your beautiful plants!
I understand, that my letter is very daring, but I
so much liked your plants! And I'm so sorry, that I
can't buy them.
I belive, that there are a lot of  kind people, who
can make my dream come true. May be this is you...
Thank you !
for your time!
I'm looking forward to your answer.
Alina.

Thank you for your letter! I'll use the mailing list.
I'll do my best
to
grow not surviving, but living plant.
My adress is
Alina Proskurina
Osinovskaya 75
Chuguev
Kharkov region
the Ukraine
63503
Thank you!
Alina.


 --=====================_4444329==_.ALT-- From JeanSciFi@aol.com Tue Jul 24 19:27:26 2001 From: JeanSciFi@aol.com (JeanSciFi@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:27:26 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Plants for your area via seeds Message-ID: <7d.184c8abb.288f261e@aol.com> --part1_7d.184c8abb.288f261e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alina, I'm interested in sending you some seeds but need to know a bit about your winters. We live in the low desert so our winter temperatures rarely go be low freezing (32 degrees F). We have your summer average temperatures at 26 to 27 degrees Celsius. I'll have to find a conversion chart to find out what that is in Fahrenheit degrees. For the most part we are not yet using the Metric System of measures in the U.S. It wouldn't be good for us to select seeds from frost sensitive plants if you have cold winters. Also you might give us an idea of the size of the land you wish to landscape so we do not send tree seeds that would out grow your space. Our soils in the desert are mainly clay like with a pH that is alkaline. Do you know anything about the soil that might also aide in our selection of seeds to send. Have you seen pictures of any of our plants on line that particularly interest you? I sincerely hope that we can help you. JeanSciFi@aol.com Master Gardener Apache Junction, AZ USA --part1_7d.184c8abb.288f261e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alina,

I'm interested in sending you some seeds but need to know a bit about your
winters.  We live in the low desert so our winter temperatures rarely go be
low freezing (32 degrees F).  We have your summer average temperatures at 26
to 27 degrees Celsius.  I'll have to find a conversion chart to find out what
that is in Fahrenheit degrees.  For the most part we are not yet using the
Metric System of measures in the U.S.

It wouldn't be good for us to select seeds from frost sensitive plants if you
have cold winters.  Also you might give us an idea of the size of the land
you wish to landscape so we do not send tree seeds that would out grow your
space.  Our soils in the desert are mainly clay like with a pH that is
alkaline.  Do you know anything about the soil that might also aide in our
selection of seeds to send.  Have you seen pictures of any of our plants on
line that particularly interest you?

I sincerely hope that we can help you.

JeanSciFi@aol.com
Master Gardener
Apache Junction, AZ
USA --part1_7d.184c8abb.288f261e_boundary-- From jrhino@theramp.net Tue Jul 24 19:47:48 2001 From: jrhino@theramp.net (jrhino@theramp.net) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:47:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241947.f6OJlmW28429@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please......Where can I get my garden soil analyzed? I reside in Tempe. From tercol69@aol.com Tue Jul 24 19:58:08 2001 From: tercol69@aol.com (tercol69@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:58:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241958.f6OJw8W00138@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have sucker root problems with a pepper tree watered incorrectly. The suckers grow out of the main roots of tree. How can I stop them? There are many. From tercol69@aol.com Tue Jul 24 19:59:27 2001 From: tercol69@aol.com (tercol69@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:59:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107241959.f6OJxRW00315@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have sucker root problems with a pepper tree watered incorrectly. The suckers grow out of the main roots of tree. How can I stop them? There are many. The tree is six years old. From rcsvail@mindspring.com Tue Jul 24 20:58:58 2001 From: rcsvail@mindspring.com (rcsvail@mindspring.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:58:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107242058.f6OKwwW10381@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dear Judy, Thanks for the info on the Palo Verde tree...I have another question for you.Every fall thru spring my yard is invaded with snails.They do quite a lot of damage to my plants.I tried the beer in the dish. Well our dog enjoyed the treat. I made a dough ball with yeast which by the way was very messy.So eventually I went to the poison.My yard has a lot of plants as to why I get a lot of snails.My question is did anyone come up with some better ideas on how to rid the garden pest? I would like to not use the poison which was very effective as my dog is old now and puts her nose in everything.I have read many a garden books and so far you were most informative.Any ideas I would appreciate some help on this as Fall is right around the corner. THANKS From hydro2healthorganics@hotmail.com Tue Jul 24 21:28:51 2001 From: hydro2healthorganics@hotmail.com (Rob) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:28:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] mail list? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1144C.F592E780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is this a mailing list sign up area and if so please sign me up to your = newsgroup or the information to subscribe would be great. Thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1144C.F592E780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Thanks!
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1144C.F592E780-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 24 22:18:31 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:18:31 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Trees resistant to Texas Root Rot Message-ID: These trees are immune to TRR ---palms, bamboo, and banana. Nearly all desert adapted trees are resistant as well as a few others as follows: Aleppo Pine, Cedar Elm, Citrus on sour orange root stock, Cypress, Eucalyptus, Tamarisk, Fruitless Mulberry, Mesquite, Palo Verde, Sycamore, Walnut, Sweet Acacia, Lysiloma, Salt Cedar, Desert willow, and Canyon Hackberry. These trees are listed in the Univ. of Arizona publicatioon Root Rot in Arizona. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu Tue Jul 24 23:01:57 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:01:57 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] 2001 Annual Southwest Turfgrass Conference & Trade Show Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010724154928.00ad5840@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_30209586==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed October 9-12, 2001 Ruidoso Convention and Civic Events Center Ruidoso, New Mexico This year we have instituted a two track educational program on Thursday only - one with emphasis on Gold and the other with emphasis on Sports Turf. Conference registration and fee for all attendees must be received by September 15, 2001, to avoid paying late fee of $150.00. Payment methods include checks, cash, money orders, or company purchase orders. The late fee policy will be enforced. Please contact the Southwest Turfgrass Association at 505-275-2576 if you have specific questions and for registrations. The New Mexico Department of Agriculture will again allow Pesticide Applicator CEU's on a per-day basis. Full Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions, barbecue on Tuesday after the Golf Tournament, meals (Wednesday lunch and Thursday lunch), and a copy of the Proceedings. Daily Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions for that day, meal for that day, and a copy of the Proceedings. Make checks payable to and mail registration to: Southwest Turfgrass Association 9301 Indian School Rd, NE, Suite 112 Albuquerque, NM 87112 Phone: 505-275-2576 Golf Tournament The Links - Ruidoso, NM Tuesday, October 9, 2001 Tee Time: 11:00 am Golf Fee: $50.00 --=====================_30209586==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
October 9-12, 2001
Ruidoso Convention and Civic Events Center
Ruidoso, New Mexico

This year we have instituted a two track educational program on Thursday only - one with emphasis on Gold and the other with emphasis on Sports Turf.

Conference registration and fee for all attendees must be received by September 15, 2001, to avoid paying late fee of $150.00.  Payment methods include checks, cash, money orders, or company purchase orders.  The late fee policy will be enforced.  Please contact the Southwest Turfgrass Association at 505-275-2576 if you have specific questions and for registrations.

The New Mexico Department of Agriculture will again allow Pesticide Applicator CEU's on a per-day basis.

Full Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions, barbecue on Tuesday after the Golf Tournament, meals (Wednesday lunch and Thursday lunch), and a copy of the Proceedings.

Daily Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions for that day, meal for that day, and a copy of the Proceedings.

Make checks payable to and mail registration to:        Southwest Turfgrass Association
                                                        9301 Indian School Rd, NE, Suite 112
                                                        Albuquerque, NM 87112
                                                        Phone: 505-275-2576

Golf Tournament
The Links - Ruidoso, NM
Tuesday, October 9, 2001
Tee Time: 11:00 am
Golf Fee: $50.00
--=====================_30209586==_.ALT-- From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Tue Jul 24 23:11:35 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:11:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107241353.f6ODrJW28565@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <00e901c11495$ff624f00$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Our publication "Cricket Management" (AZ1004) has lists several strategies for dealing with crickets.You can review this publication at this link. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Insects Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:53 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > HELP!!!!!!!!!! > > I am being invaded by Crickets. There are so many crickets in my garden I bet the number is in the 1000's. Early in the spring I applied a granular chemical, that I guess is supposed to kill the crickets after they eat the plant, I've had my exterminator out several times spraying around and in my house because I would find dozens (I'm not joking) in the folds of my drapery. > Thinking that all I can do is cope for now, I definetly want to prevent this outbreak next year. Any suggestions as to what I can apply to the beds etc. when I do soil prep in the fall? > They seem to enjoy the vinca--I have lots of healthy plants, but no flowers, they have all been eaten, leaving only the center. The same is true for the moss rose. > > I am at my end and am heartbroken that all my hard work is providing a wonderful meal for these creatures. > > Thanks > Jenn > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu Tue Jul 24 23:10:23 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:10:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Arizona Highlands Garden Conference Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010724160214.00ad1770@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_30715308==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gardeners take note! The Arizona Highlands Garden Conference is being held in Prescott on October 8th and 9th at Chapel Rock Conference Center. The Arizona Highlands Garden Conference is planned and presented by University of Arizona Cooperative Extension Master Gardener volunteers from Coconino, Gila and Yavapai Counties. The conference offers indoor and outdoor presentations on a variety of topics related to high elevation gardening and landscaping. Anyone interested in gardening at elevations between 3,000 and 7,000 is encouraged to attend. The cost of the 2-day conference is $60 before September 7th and $75 after September 7th. It also includes a tote bag containing complimentary items, the conference notebook, lunch both days and snacks during breaks. There will be door prizes and vendors too! Space is limited, so call the Cooperative Extension office today for registration information at 928-445-6590 in Prescott or Cottonwood at 928-646-9113. Visit the conference web site: ag.arizona.edu/yavapai/ahgc/conference2001.html --=====================_30715308==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gardeners take note!  The Arizona Highlands Garden Conference is being held in Prescott on October 8th and 9th at Chapel Rock Conference Center.  The Arizona Highlands Garden Conference is planned and presented by University of Arizona Cooperative Extension Master Gardener volunteers from Coconino, Gila and Yavapai Counties.  The conference offers indoor and outdoor presentations on a variety of topics related to high elevation gardening and landscaping.  Anyone interested in gardening at elevations between 3,000 and 7,000 is encouraged to attend.

The cost of the 2-day conference is $60 before September 7th and $75 after September 7th.  It also includes a tote bag containing complimentary items, the conference notebook, lunch both days and snacks during breaks.  There will be door prizes and vendors too!  Space is limited, so call the Cooperative Extension office today for registration information at 928-445-6590 in Prescott or Cottonwood at 928-646-9113.  Visit the conference web site: ag.arizona.edu/yavapai/ahgc/conference2001.html
--=====================_30715308==_.ALT-- From cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu Tue Jul 24 23:21:52 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:21:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] 2001 Annual Southwest Turfgrass Conference & Trade Show Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010724162131.00ad2100@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_31404301==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed October 9-12, 2001 Ruidoso Convention and Civic Events Center Ruidoso, New Mexico This year we have instituted a two track educational program on Thursday only - one with emphasis on Golf and the other with emphasis on Sports Turf. Conference registration and fee for all attendees must be received by September 15, 2001, to avoid paying late fee of $150.00. Payment methods include checks, cash, money orders, or company purchase orders. The late fee policy will be enforced. Please contact the Southwest Turfgrass Association at 505-275-2576 if you have specific questions and for registrations. The New Mexico Department of Agriculture will again allow Pesticide Applicator CEU's on a per-day basis. Full Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions, barbecue on Tuesday after the Golf Tournament, meals (Wednesday lunch and Thursday lunch), and a copy of the Proceedings. Daily Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions for that day, meal for that day, and a copy of the Proceedings. Make checks payable to and mail registration to: Southwest Turfgrass Association 9301 Indian School Rd, NE, Suite 112 Albuquerque, NM 87112 Phone: 505-275-2576 Golf Tournament The Links - Ruidoso, NM Tuesday, October 9, 2001 Tee Time: 11:00 am Golf Fee: $50.00 --=====================_31404301==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
October 9-12, 2001
Ruidoso Convention and Civic Events Center
Ruidoso, New Mexico

This year we have instituted a two track educational program on Thursday only - one with emphasis on Golf and the other with emphasis on Sports Turf.

Conference registration and fee for all attendees must be received by September 15, 2001, to avoid paying late fee of $150.00.  Payment methods include checks, cash, money orders, or company purchase orders.  The late fee policy will be enforced.  Please contact the Southwest Turfgrass Association at 505-275-2576 if you have specific questions and for registrations.

The New Mexico Department of Agriculture will again allow Pesticide Applicator CEU's on a per-day basis.

Full Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions, barbecue on Tuesday after the Golf Tournament, meals (Wednesday lunch and Thursday lunch), and a copy of the Proceedings.

Daily Conference Registration includes: Membership in the Southwest Turfgrass Association, educational sessions for that day, meal for that day, and a copy of the Proceedings.

Make checks payable to and mail registration to:        Southwest Turfgrass Association
                                                        9301 Indian School Rd, NE, Suite 112
                                                        Albuquerque, NM 87112
                                                        Phone: 505-275-2576

Golf Tournament
The Links - Ruidoso, NM
Tuesday, October 9, 2001
Tee Time: 11:00 am
Golf Fee: $50.00
--=====================_31404301==_.ALT-- From bruce.negley@microchip.com Tue Jul 24 23:29:16 2001 From: bruce.negley@microchip.com (bruce.negley@microchip.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:29:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107242329.f6ONTGW05363@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have Brazilian Pepper tree that we planted about 10 years ago. About 2 years ago, we decided to turn the shady space directly beneath this tree into a garden. We added a fountain and lots of plants, which get watered every day. Over the course of the last month, the pepper tree started losing its leaves (it always did this to some degree in the summer) and in the last 4 or 5 days it just went to hell. All the leaves are now gone and the small branches snap off like they have been dead for years. Any idea on why this well established tree died in such a quick manner? We are seriously bummed that it died and dread the job of removing it and starting again, Thanks for any help, Bruce From sjbass@qwest.net Wed Jul 25 00:21:16 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: Jam] response to request for Prickly Pear Jam Message-ID: <3B5E10FC.BA83B227@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EDA9A63E5E7B2CB09BAA7089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------EDA9A63E5E7B2CB09BAA7089 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: sjbass@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 11588 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2001 14:29:48 -0000 Received: from mail1.uswest.net (63.226.138.1) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2001 14:29:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21482 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2001 14:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO prserv.net) (32.97.166.31) by mail1.uswest.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2001 14:29:37 -0000 Received: from attglobal.net (slip-32-102-44-8.az.us.prserv.net[32.102.44.8]) by prserv.net (out1) with SMTP id <2001072414293120104d0g4oe>; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:29:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3B5D6B88.2F49D3CF@attglobal.net> From: sdyoder@attglobal.net To: "Sue Bass" Reply-To: sdyoder@attglobal.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Jam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Desert Botanical Garden hotline has a recipe for the jam. Call 480-941-1225 from 10 to 11:30 and ask them to send it to you. Sylvia Yoder (I will be on the hotline tomorrow) --------------EDA9A63E5E7B2CB09BAA7089-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 25 00:17:25 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:17:25 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pepper Tree losing its leaves Message-ID: <115.2250300.288f6a15@aol.com> Stress will cause a tree to lose its leaves and during the summer the stress is usually caused by inadequate irrigation. If you have not been deep watering the tree periodically in addition to the water the garden gets beneath the tree then the problem is most likely due to lack of water. Check out this link on irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Wed Jul 25 02:48:18 2001 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:48:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fw: sweetpotatoes Message-ID: <000c01c114b4$4c08d2c0$e3a10404@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Kandell To: Organic Gardening Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: sweetpotatoes > I'm growing sweet potatoes. I have a bunch of long vines in a patch. Do I > need to mound up dirt around the leaves and stems like you do with normal > potatoes, or are they growing wonderfully under ground as the vine grows > longer? > > jk > > From jennaz31@aol.com Wed Jul 25 03:47:54 2001 From: jennaz31@aol.com (jennaz31@aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:47:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107250347.f6P3lsW01717@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Thank you for the responses to my cricket problem. The answer seems to be lizards. I did some research, looking at past questions in this sight to find topics on lizards and I understand how to create a habitat for them, but I don't have lizards. I've only seen one and that was a year ago. This may sound dumb, but do I buy them at the store, then release them? (I must be getting into this gardening thing, a year ago I never would have dreamed of entertaining the thought of buying lizards or any other creature for that matter!) Thanks for your response Jenn From stutzee@att.net Wed Jul 25 05:00:55 2001 From: stutzee@att.net (stutzee@att.net) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:00:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107250500.f6P50tW08189@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I would like to know if there is any place in this area to buy tomato plants for late season planting. I have started some from seed but young plants would have a better chance of producing before cold weather. Thanks CES From freddawson@aol.com Wed Jul 25 13:55:02 2001 From: freddawson@aol.com (freddawson@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:55:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107251355.f6PDt2W22684@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have a 14 feet tall ficus tree with a diameter of 12-15 feet. Nine of its large roots have risen above ground level. Can I cover these with dirt and replant grass seed around the tree which is on the front lawn? Freddawson@aol.com From leelyn3704@aol.com Wed Jul 25 14:03:52 2001 From: leelyn3704@aol.com (leelyn3704@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 07:03:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107251403.f6PE3qW23411@Ag.Arizona.Edu> How can you tell how old a tree is? From tercol69@aol.com Wed Jul 25 15:44:19 2001 From: tercol69@aol.com (tercol69@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:44:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107251544.f6PFiJW05997@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 6yr old Pepper Tree that has been watered incorrectly from the start. Because of this the actual tree roots are close to the surface. Sucker roots are growing off of them. We have cut them repeatedly but they keep coming back. Any Ideas on how to stop them? Thank you. From Tutusues@aol.com Wed Jul 25 16:13:10 2001 From: Tutusues@aol.com (Tutusues@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:13:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107251613.f6PGDAW11137@Ag.Arizona.Edu> When is the proper time to cut back/trim my rose bushes? They are still producing some flowers but are small and anemic looking, although the leaves are green. Thank you. From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Wed Jul 25 16:23:53 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:23:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Summer Rose Care References: <200107251613.f6PGDAW11137@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <014f01c11526$350bf080$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Roses slow down during our hot months and produce smaller and fewer blooms. Cut off spent blooms, cut back to the first five-leaflet set, leave as much foliage as possible. The foliage will help to shade the bush Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > When is the proper time to cut back/trim my rose bushes? They are still producing some flowers but are small and anemic looking, although the leaves are green. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From s2@AuroraNow.org Wed Jul 25 16:37:48 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:37:48 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107251613.f6PGDAW11137@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5EF5DC.3B09F44D@AuroraNow.org> Your roses are "small and anemic" looking because of the heat. The blooms also don't last as long in this heat. You can keep removing the spent blooms and taking longer cuttings for fresh arrangements, but heavy pruning should be reserved for Jan.-Feb. Don't worry--as soon as the weather cools a bit, they'll bounce back for you. My roses have literally bounced back to life in the past couple weeks here in Tucson. They are totally covered with healthy, decent sized blossoms and have grown almost a foot since the first monsoon (and I haven't fed them since early June). I have mine tucked against an eastern wall, protected from hot afternoon sun, and they are also situated where the air conditioning evaporation drain 'dumps' its excess cool water. I really think I chose that spot wisely, because even though my blooming diminished in June's heat (small blooms) they were still quite vibrant looking and never went into that 'heat dormant' phase I see many rose bushes go into this time of year. (I'm not a master gardener) -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From sjbass@qwest.net Wed Jul 25 16:40:29 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:40:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Arid Gardener List and subscriber information References: Message-ID: <3B5EF67D.6992A8C1@qwest.net> --------------430AD4489ED7BCE12FE77072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob: The following link will take you to a page in our website explaining the list. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm You can subscribe from this page by scrolling down and clicking on the word "Subscribe" about midway down the page. If you haven't had a chance to browse our web site, scroll down to the bottom of the above mentioned page to "Home". Lots of great gardening information to be found. Sue Bass Master Gardener, List Manager Rob wrote: > Is this a mailing list sign up area and if so please sign me up to > your newsgroup or the information to subscribe would be great. Thanks! --------------430AD4489ED7BCE12FE77072 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob:
The following link will take you to a page in our website explaining the list. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm
You can subscribe from this page by scrolling down and clicking on the word "Subscribe" about midway down the page.
If you haven't had a chance to browse our web site, scroll down to the bottom of the above mentioned page to "Home".  Lots of great gardening information to be found.
Sue Bass
Master Gardener, List Manager

Rob wrote:

Is this a mailing list sign up area and if so please sign me up to your newsgroup or the information to subscribe would be great. Thanks!
--------------430AD4489ED7BCE12FE77072-- From robertfritz1@home.com Wed Jul 25 19:55:57 2001 From: robertfritz1@home.com (robertfritz1@home.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:55:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107251955.f6PJtvW19488@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Last year I lost an Hibiscos plant and thought it was because it did not get enough water --- This year two Hibiscos plants at the same time went brown and died -- these are 9 year old plants -- i thought these were ver hardy -- What happened -- i have others I do not want to lose. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 25 22:27:44 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:27:44 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Trees, determining their age Message-ID: If a tree has been cut down the age can be determined by counting the growth rings, one for each year. If the tree is alive I have not heard of a way to tell its age. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 25 22:27:50 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:27:50 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ficus tree roots above grade Message-ID: <105.6b2c4e8.2890a1e6@aol.com> The grade can be built up around your ficus tree, but a well should be retained around the trunk so that the bark will not be below grade. The well should be large enough to allow for future growth. I suggest that the tree be deep watered periodically. Check out this link on irrigation: Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From rmklabunde@qwest.net Wed Jul 25 22:37:31 2001 From: rmklabunde@qwest.net (rmklabunde@qwest.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:37:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107252237.f6PMbVW19705@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We moved into a place the first of April that have overgrown bougenvilla. We trimmed them back at that time. They have grown again but are not blooming anymore. What do they need? From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:21:59 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:21:59 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lime Difficulties--Wood Pocket? Message-ID: <3B5F62A7.9663988A@qwest.net> Here is a reply from our citrus specialist, Dr. Glenn Wright. Do you know what kind of lime tree you have? "Depends on what kind of lime it is. If it is a tahiti lime (aka persian lime), it may have wood pocket. Mexican (key) limes are not known to carry wood pocket. Wood pocket's symptoms include bark cracking, dead pockets of wood beneath the cracking, yellow mottling of the leaves and fruit rind. Trees die from four to 15 years after planting." "The disease is also known as lime blotch. Its presence is determined by ELISA or PCR test. There is no management, other than to destroy the affected tree. The pathogen is in the budwood, does not move to the soil, and is not transmittable to another tree, except by inserting an infected bud into a clean host." Hope this is helpful. Let us know if this sounds like your situation. Linda Guy, MG From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:28:38 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:28:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Snails/Slugs References: <200107242058.f6OKwwW10381@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5F6436.F7956FE6@qwest.net> One technique often suggested is to leave some newspapers or small piles of green matter or even a few old boards for them to congregate under. Early every morning simply uncover, gather up and dispose of them. This is used with "roly-polys" that the kids love to play with. Also, make sure that you pull mulch and dead vegetation out from around the base of your plants so they are not encouraged to congregate there. Linda Guy, MG rcsvail@mindspring.com wrote: > Dear Judy, > Thanks for the info on the Palo Verde tree...I have another question for you.Every fall thru spring my yard is invaded with snails.They do quite a lot of damage to my plants.I tried the beer in the dish. Well our dog enjoyed the treat. I made a dough ball with yeast which by the way was very messy.So eventually I went to the poison.My yard has a lot of plants as to why I get a lot of snails.My question is did anyone come up with some better ideas on how to rid the garden pest? I would like to not use the poison which was very effective as my dog is old now and puts her nose in everything.I have read many a garden books and so far you were most informative.Any ideas I would appreciate some help on this as Fall is right around the corner. THANKS > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:30:47 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Soil Labs References: <200107241947.f6OJlmW28429@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5F64B7.3999F113@qwest.net> The listing on our website for labs is at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/soiltest.htm Linda Guy, MG jrhino@theramp.net wrote: > Please......Where can I get my garden soil analyzed? I reside in Tempe. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:33:24 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:33:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bougainvilla References: <200107252237.f6PMbVW19705@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5F6554.792F6C8A@qwest.net> The "blooms" are actually bracts and become more profuse when this lover of heat has less water and little fertilizer. Suggest backing off from both. Linda Guy, MG rmklabunde@qwest.net wrote: > We moved into a place the first of April that have overgrown bougenvilla. We trimmed them back at that time. They have grown again but are not blooming anymore. What do they need? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:37:52 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:37:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lemon tree problem References: <20010712170050.17482.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B5F6660.E94F6B93@qwest.net> After reading this, does it sound like thrips could be your culprit? http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/c-thrips.htm We often say that in the home garden the damage is largely cosmetic, but if you have a smaller/newer tree, the impact might be a bit more devastating. Linda Guy, MG BOB RAMSEY wrote: > Two years ago I had leaf yellowing and drop on my > established lemon tree which at that time was watered > on drip at the same rate as my healthy grapefruit and > orange trees. You suggested that the lemon tree needs > more water than other citrus. So I converted to > watering with bubbler and large basin around trunk. I > water in the summer once a week for 2 hrs. and can > probe 2 feet into the ground afterwards( seems that if > i water for longer I still cannot go down 3 ft.). This > spring, the tree had fairly good new leaf growth but > the leaves have remained small and tend to curl and > even turn yellow. The tree has very sparce look > although the stems are still green under the bark. Any > suggestions?. Thanks for your help. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 00:39:54 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:39:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cut worms References: <200107180233.f6I2XxW22061@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B5F66D9.F064A397@qwest.net> Some options are listed at http://www.gardensalive.com/pestguide_item.asp?article_id=37 Linda Guy, MG cminkner@fastq.com wrote: > I have a problem with cutworms in my vegatable garden. The garden is dormant now. I > would like to address this problem with an organic remedy. What would you suggest? > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Thu Jul 26 00:51:52 2001 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] cracking watermelon References: <3B5F62A7.9663988A@qwest.net> Message-ID: <001101c1156d$5c7d0400$5daa3604@oemcomputer> Two of my watermelons cracked yesterday after a good watering. Too much water? jk From jblackphxaz@earthlink.net Thu Jul 26 02:26:55 2001 From: jblackphxaz@earthlink.net (jblackphxaz@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:26:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107260226.f6Q2QtW15039@Ag.Arizona.Edu> What fertilizer is good for citrus trees? From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Thu Jul 26 11:44:25 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 04:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re:Citrus Fertilizer References: <200107260226.f6Q2QtW15039@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <001b01c115c8$5b0548c0$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Ammonium sulfate (21-0-0) works well. The next time for fertilizing is in September. If you tell us how old your tree is, we can tell you the amount of fertilizer to use. Over fertilization results in thicker rinds and fruit that is less sweet. Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > What fertilizer is good for citrus trees? From rcdemark@aol.com Thu Jul 26 15:29:05 2001 From: rcdemark@aol.com (rcdemark@aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:29:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107261529.f6QFT4W25626@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am losing my Vinca. One of your master gardners said that it was due to a fungus. He said there was a cure for it. A treatment for the soil. What is it? How long before should one wait before planting again vinca in the same place? From ram6260@yahoo.com Thu Jul 26 16:48:44 2001 From: ram6260@yahoo.com (BOB RAMSEY) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] prunning of climbing roses. Message-ID: <20010726164844.64789.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> I have several climbing roses which bloom primarilly in the spring and a smaller bloom in the fall. I pruned after the spring bloom such that there were about 4 good canes which I then bundled together. I have been trying to get them to extend up the patio pillar and then laterally along the horizontal beam and eventually join togegether in an arcade. In order to encourage lenth I keep pruning off any offshoots along the cane. Is this too much pruning? Some of the canes continue to lengthen but others do not grow longer but produce vigorous off shoots. I am trying to them to be about 20 feet long. Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Thu Jul 26 18:47:51 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:47:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re:Citrus Fertilizer References: <200107260226.f6Q2QtW15039@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <001b01c115c8$5b0548c0$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> <002801c11600$c079bfa0$6382dd18@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Message-ID: <01cc01c11603$7c83a600$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> If you use Ammonium sulfate (21-0-0) , your will need 7.5 lbs of fertilizer a year for an untrimmed tree or 6 1/4 pounds for a tree that is trimmed. This should not be applied all at once. You should apply 1/3 in January-February, 1/3 in April-May and 1/3 in August-September. The reduction in last years crop was probably not due to lack of irrigation; it is common for citrus trees to have a reduced crop every other year. The link for information regarding irrigating citrus is http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Citrus Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- > My trees are 9 years old, witha spread of about 9 -10 feet. They are navels > / Arizona Sweets. The fruit two years ago was great; the last crop was not > as good, but I didn't water them adequately last year. I have watered > adequately this year, however. How much fertilizer should I use ? From Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com Thu Jul 26 19:21:36 2001 From: Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com (Zelhart Alan-rpcs30) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:21:36 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] pruning of climbing roses. Message-ID: <5F351F1342F9E74890D41185C22DE19F0EFCE5@AZ09EXM02-N2.sps.mot.com> Bob, could it be that you are trying to get the wrong type of climber to grow so tall, many climbers will never reach 20 feet. What is the name of your climbers? ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! -----Original Message----- From: BOB RAMSEY [mailto:ram6260@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 9:49 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] prunning of climbing roses. I have several climbing roses which bloom primarilly in the spring and a smaller bloom in the fall. I pruned after the spring bloom such that there were about 4 good canes which I then bundled together. I have been trying to get them to extend up the patio pillar and then laterally along the horizontal beam and eventually join togegether in an arcade. In order to encourage lenth I keep pruning off any offshoots along the cane. Is this too much pruning? Some of the canes continue to lengthen but others do not grow longer but produce vigorous off shoots. I am trying to them to be about 20 feet long. Thanks for your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From SAFitch@repwest.com Thu Jul 26 19:51:00 2001 From: SAFitch@repwest.com (SAFitch@repwest.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:51:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107261951.f6QJp0W17244@Ag.Arizona.Edu> All I want to know is what zone I am in if I live in Phoenix. Most catalogues reference plants to the zones they are most suited for and I can't tell on those zone maps exactly where Phoenix would fall. From sjbass@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 18:53:31 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 11:53:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Virus Warning from List Manager Message-ID: <3B60672B.B8188C8@qwest.net> Dear fellow Master Gardeners and Subscribers: I just wanted to take a moment to alert everyone of the current virus going around. It is called the "SirCam virus" and you can view information on it at the McAfee web page: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99141& The subject line changes constantly, but the body of the message always starts with "Hi, How are you?" then, "I send you this file in order to have your advice" or "I hope you can help me with this file that I send" or "I hope you like the file that I send you" or "This is the file with the information that you ask for." "See you later. Thanks" Most of you have probably heard of this or may have even received one or more copies in your mailbox. Do not open the attachments in the message. The Arid Gardener list is receiving at least 4 or 5 a day of these per day and fortunately, the file is too large for it to get through without our approval and we are deleting it. This does mean that a subscriber or two is probably infected in order for it get to the list. The above link will give you information on the virus as well as information on how to remove it. The information highway is full of pot holes these days, be careful out there! : ) Sue Bass Master Gardener List Serve Manager From sjbass@qwest.net Thu Jul 26 20:21:18 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 13:21:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Phoenix Climate Zone References: <200107261951.f6QJp0W17244@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B607BBE.5A9CAA1A@qwest.net> Phoenix falls in Zone 9 of the USDA map. You can view it at: http://www.smgrowers.com/usdamap.htm For the Sunset Garden guide, we are zone 13. Sue Bass Master Gardener SAFitch@repwest.com wrote: > All I want to know is what zone I am in if I live in Phoenix. Most catalogues reference plants to the zones they are most suited for and I can't tell on those zone maps exactly where Phoenix would fall. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Ranzona@integrity.com Thu Jul 26 23:45:19 2001 From: Ranzona@integrity.com (Ranzona@integrity.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 16:45:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107262345.f6QNjJW23706@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My apricot tree was loaded with fruit this year and as a result one of the limbs broke under the weight when the wind kicked up. Shortly after this leaves on various branches began to wither and any fruit on the branch died. I have attempted to trim any branch that appeared diseased off but am still seeing branches die. I read an old article about cotton root rot and wonder if this is what is causing the tree to die. I found a white fungus growing in the soil in the shade of this tree in a couple of locations. Is there some way to tell if this is what is killing the tree and if not where can I go to have someone check out the tree to see what can be done. Thank you for any advice. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jul 26 23:49:53 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:49:53 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vinca dying Message-ID: Vinca is one of the most popular summer annuals that is planted in our low desert. It actually is a perenial but because it looks scrubby in the winter most people treat it as an annual. Vinca as well as many other annuals become hosts to fungi that cause the roots and stems to rot if over watered and watered too frequently. Rhizoctonia is one such fungi that causes many of the problems with vinca. Chemicals are available to help control most of these fungi, however the chemicals are expensive and are not readily available to the homeowner. Do not plant vinca in the same bed year after year since most of these fungi can remain alive in the soil for years. It is helpful to keep the pH down in the 6.0 to 7.0 range by incorporating soil sulfur and organic mulch or compost into the soil annually. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From jonbharrison@earthlink.net Fri Jul 27 00:33:56 2001 From: jonbharrison@earthlink.net (Jon B. Harrison) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:33:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Red Mexican Bird of Paradise Message-ID: <010601c11633$d2c8c240$12dc323f@jp> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C115F9.255D5C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have several, mature, red, flowering Mexican Bird of Paradise plants. = I prune them back every winter and get beautiful, showy blooms all = summer. These blooms are generally finished by the end of August. I = would like to be able to have these blooms last through October 13 this = year since we are having a wedding here. Is it possible to trim the = plants back now in order to force more blooms out of them? Please = respond with your advice. Thank you. Peggy Harrison ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C115F9.255D5C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have several, mature, red, flowering = Mexican Bird=20 of Paradise plants. I prune them back every winter and get beautiful, = showy=20 blooms all summer. These blooms are generally finished by the end of = August. I=20 would like to be able to have these blooms last through October 13 this = year=20 since we are having a wedding here. Is it possible to trim the plants = back now=20 in order to force more blooms out of them? Please respond with your = advice.=20 Thank you.   Peggy Harrison
------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C115F9.255D5C40-- From sjbass@qwest.net Fri Jul 27 00:42:04 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:42:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Texas Root Rot Diagnosis References: <200107262345.f6QNjJW23706@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B60B8DC.A66B29CD@qwest.net> You can bring a root sample in to the Cooperative Extension office at 4341 E. Broadway Rd., Phoenix, AZ 85040, (602) 470-8086 for diagnosis. The Diagnostic Team meets on Friday mornings so its best get the sample in by Thursday afternoon. Be sure to put the sample in a plastic bag to keep it fresh and label the bag with your name, phone number and description of the symptoms as well as the type of tree. Sue Bass Master Gardener Ranzona@integrity.com wrote: > My apricot tree was loaded with fruit this year > and as a result one of the limbs broke under the > weight when the wind kicked up. Shortly after > this leaves on various branches began to wither > and any fruit on the branch died. I have attempted > to trim any branch that appeared diseased off > but am still seeing branches die. I read an > old article about cotton root rot and wonder if > this is what is causing the tree to die. I found > a white fungus growing in the soil in the shade > of this tree in a couple of locations. Is there > some way to tell if this is what is killing the > tree and if not where can I go to have someone > check out the tree to see what can be done. > Thank you for any advice. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu Fri Jul 27 18:20:41 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 11:20:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] The Southwest Palm Seminar Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010727111006.00aa37e0@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_2953179==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:30 am - 5:00 pm Richard Nixon Library 18001 Yorba Linda Blvd Yorba Linda, California Program Coordinator: Ted Stamen, retired Horticulture Advisor from the University of California Cooperative Extension, Riverside. Speakers include: Timothy K. Broschat, Professor of tropical ornamental horticulture at the University of Florida's Ft. Lauderdale Research and Education Center. Jim Gibbons, Director of Horticulture at the Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas, NV. M.L. Robinson, Associate Professor with the University of Nevada Cooperative Extension. Also featuring: Bailey O. Hudson, President Elect, International Society of Arboriculture, Brett Richardson, Business Manager, Valley Crest Tree Company, Kerry Norman, maintenance Manger, Valley Crest Tree Company, and Kent Wenzel, Business Developer, Valley Crest Tree Company, Sylmar, CA. Registration fee of $139 includes continental breakfast, lunch, CEU's and all seminar materials. Register on-line at: www.regweb.com/csusb/palm For questions or registration brochure:College of Extended Learning, California State University, 5500 University Pkwy, San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397 or phone 909-880-5977. Registration deadline is September 7, 2001. --=====================_2953179==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Thursday, September 13, 2001
8:30 am - 5:00 pm
Richard Nixon Library
18001 Yorba Linda Blvd
Yorba Linda, California

Program Coordinator: Ted Stamen, retired Horticulture Advisor from the University of California Cooperative Extension, Riverside.

Speakers include: Timothy K. Broschat, Professor of tropical ornamental horticulture at the University of Florida's Ft. Lauderdale Research and Education Center.  Jim Gibbons, Director of Horticulture at the Bellagio Hotel in Las Vegas, NV.  M.L. Robinson, Associate Professor with the University of Nevada Cooperative Extension.

Also featuring: Bailey O. Hudson, President Elect, International Society of Arboriculture, Brett Richardson, Business Manager, Valley Crest Tree Company, Kerry Norman, maintenance Manger, Valley Crest Tree Company, and Kent Wenzel, Business Developer, Valley Crest Tree Company, Sylmar, CA.

Registration fee of $139 includes continental breakfast, lunch, CEU's and all seminar materials.

Register on-line at: www.regweb.com/csusb/palm

For questions or registration brochure:College of Extended Learning, California State University, 5500 University Pkwy, San Bernardino, CA 92407-2397 or phone 909-880-5977.

Registration deadline is September 7, 2001. --=====================_2953179==_.ALT-- From jkasko@gateway.net Sat Jul 28 01:04:28 2001 From: jkasko@gateway.net (jkasko@gateway.net) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:04:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107280104.f6S14SW19905@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Is anyone familiar with aloe wickensii? I saw it and love it but want to know alittle more about it. Height/width, sun, water, clumping, etc. The resources I've found were somewhat limited. Any imput would be helpful - I want to be sure and plant properly. Or suggest a good resource on aloes - The Aloes of South Africa is apparently out of print. Thanks! From baerm@worldnet.att.net Sat Jul 28 01:17:37 2001 From: baerm@worldnet.att.net (Maxie Baer) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:17:37 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lysiloma Thornberi Message-ID: <000001c11705$a5788960$0f00510c@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C116C8.6A905A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will the roots raise nearby paving? Is it so dense that you don't see through it at all? Can it be trained as a single trunk tree? How long does it drop seed pods, and are they easy to get up? I want to = plant in a four-foot circular hole cut in a patio, and I'd like easy = clean-up. How would I go about buying one in the San Jose, CA area - contact my = local nursery? Thanks very much - asking you since I haven't seen these plants in CA = but they appear to be somewhat common in AZ. Trying to find something = attractive to replace a Crape Myrtle, which is doing well in the patio = hole planting, but is driving us nuts with the litter - it seems = endless, and a real mess to sweep up. I greatly appreciate any help you can give me, Max Baer =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C116C8.6A905A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will the roots raise nearby = paving?
 
Is it so dense that you don't see = through it at=20 all?
 
Can it be trained as a single trunk=20 tree?
 
How long does it drop seed pods, and = are they easy=20 to get up?  I want to plant in a four-foot circular hole cut in a = patio,=20 and I'd like easy clean-up.
 
How would I go about buying one in the = San Jose, CA=20 area - contact my local nursery?
 
Thanks very much - asking you since I = haven't seen=20 these plants in CA but they appear to be somewhat common in AZ.  = Trying to=20 find something attractive to replace a Crape Myrtle, which is doing well = in the=20 patio hole planting, but is driving us nuts with the litter - it seems = endless,=20 and a real mess to sweep up.
 
I greatly appreciate any help you can = give=20 me,
     Max = Baer
   
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C116C8.6A905A40-- From srogerssprint5@earthlink.net Sat Jul 28 01:33:30 2001 From: srogerssprint5@earthlink.net (Scott Rogers) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:33:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: aloe wickensii References: <200107280104.f6S14SW19905@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <002701c11705$4f6e7980$dcc50142@phoenix.speedchoice.com> Hereis a link that will take you to the information you are requesting: http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Asphodelaceae/Aloe_wickensii.html Scott Rogers Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > Is anyone familiar with aloe wickensii? I saw it and love it but want to know alittle more about it. Height/width, sun, water, clumping, etc. The resources I've found were somewhat limited. Any imput would be helpful - I want to be sure and plant properly. Or suggest a good resource on aloes - The Aloes of South Africa is apparently out of print. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From guyton1@gateway.net Sat Jul 28 17:12:48 2001 From: guyton1@gateway.net (guyton1@gateway.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:12:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107281712.f6SHCmW23032@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am looking for information on the care of arbovitaes, golden and blue cone From envconnections@yahoo.com Sat Jul 28 17:14:48 2001 From: envconnections@yahoo.com (envconnections@yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107281714.f6SHEmW23162@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I planted a large melon garden in early summer. Many of the vines and leaves now are weak and yellow. Many still have flowers and developing fruit. What do I need to do to salvage the fruit and plants? From Wimbledon12@cs.com Sat Jul 28 18:01:19 2001 From: Wimbledon12@cs.com (Wimbledon12@cs.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:01:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107281801.f6SI1JW26209@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can you please tell me in just simple words, how I can tell if I overwatered the lawn? What does the lawn look like or what are the signs? I feel like that's what I'm doing. And instead of helping it, I'm killing it. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sat Jul 28 21:42:51 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:42:51 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lysiloma Thornberi Message-ID: Will the roots raise nearby paving? Probably not Is it so dense that you don't see through it at all? No Can it be trained as a single trunk tree? Yes How long does it drop seed pods, and are they easy to get up? I want to plant in a four-foot circular hole cut in a patio, and I'd like easy clean-up. The seed pods hang on for a long time. How would I go about buying one in the San Jose, CA area - contact my local nursery? Yes Thanks very much - asking you since I haven't seen these plants in CA but they appear to be somewhat common in AZ. Trying to find something attractive to replace a Crape Myrtle, which is doing well in the patio hole planting, but is driving us nuts with the litter - it seems endless, and a real mess to sweep up. I greatly appreciate any help you can give me, Max Baer Max, the lysiloma is native to southern Arizona and Mexico and grows well in our hot low desert. Probably the reason that you haven't seen it in your nurseries is that the lysiloma may not do well in your cooler temps and with much less sunshine. I would suggest that you contact your local county cooperative extension for advice on what might be best to plant in your area. You will find them listed under county government in your phone book. They will have volunteer Master Gardeners there helping with horticultural advice. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sat Jul 28 21:54:15 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:54:15 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering Turf Message-ID: <32.18788021.28948e87@aol.com> Since you didn't tell us how much or how often you are watering I'll refer you to a link which will advise you how to irrigate your turf properly: http://www.ci.phoenix.az.us/WATER/lawnguid.html#LONG Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From pav@zekes.com Sun Jul 29 03:55:12 2001 From: pav@zekes.com (James W Pavlacky) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:55:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Where might I sell or donate mesquite beans? Message-ID: <000801c117e2$46db27e0$b52e11cc@james> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C117A7.98971520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mesquite beans are bountiful this year. I have far too many squirrels = and rats living on and around my property because of the bean supply. I = would hope to sell or donate at least 10 bushels of honey mesquite beans = in late August. If you could refer me to possible recipients I would = certainly appreciate it. I live near Safford, Az, in SE Arizona. Jim Pavlacky ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C117A7.98971520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mesquite beans are bountiful = this year. I=20 have far too many squirrels and rats living on and around my property = because of=20 the bean supply. I would hope to sell or donate at least 10 bushels of = honey=20 mesquite beans in late August. If you could refer me to possible = recipients I=20 would certainly appreciate it. I live near Safford, Az, in SE=20 Arizona.
 
 
            =    =20             =    =20             =    =20     Jim Pavlacky
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C117A7.98971520-- From drgarnett@msn.com Sun Jul 29 05:22:54 2001 From: drgarnett@msn.com (Donald Garnett) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 22:22:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] planting cat's claw Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C117B3.D88BA5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have an answer for this? I'd like to know when to plant =20 cat's claw vine, although it's not clear whether the question was =20 about cat's claw vine or cat's claw acacia. phg@citieswestpub.com wrote: > When's the best time of year to plant cat's claw? I planted two in Nove= mber... ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C117B3.D88BA5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone ha= ve an answer for this? I'd like to know when to plant
cat's c= law vine, although it's not clear whether the question was
ab= out cat's claw vine or cat's claw acacia.
 
phg@citieswestpub.com wrote:
 
> When's the best time of year to plant ca= t's claw? I planted two in November...

------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C117B3.D88BA5E0-- From Jon.Batt@btinternet.com Sun Jul 29 11:06:57 2001 From: Jon.Batt@btinternet.com (Jonathan Batt) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:06:57 +0100 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Yucca plants-HELP! Message-ID: <000a01c1181e$96794520$89107ad5@computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C11826.F6FEC480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I have a large Yucca plant growing in my conservatory and it needs to = be cut back a bit as the leaves are right next to the roof.I have been = told that I can cut it back when the sap stops rising-but when does this = happen???Is it also correct that after cutting you should drip candle = wax on the stalk??? I look forward to your reply. Kind regards, Jonathan Batt. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C11826.F6FEC480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 I have a large Yucca plant = growing in my=20 conservatory and it needs to be cut back a bit as the leaves are right = next to=20 the roof.I have been told that I can cut it back when the sap stops = rising-but=20 when does this happen???Is it also correct that after cutting you should = drip=20 candle wax on the stalk???
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C11826.F6FEC480-- From 2hawg@msn.com Sun Jul 29 14:08:12 2001 From: 2hawg@msn.com (2hawg@msn.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:08:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107291408.f6TE8CW16080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I would like to know where I can buy a desert willow tree to put in our yard. I live in an area that can support this beautiful tree and can not find a place to purchase this plant. Thanks for your help. Sandy From ClaireASP@aol.com Sun Jul 29 14:19:34 2001 From: ClaireASP@aol.com (ClaireASP@aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:19:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107291419.f6TEJYW16659@Ag.Arizona.Edu> The other day I noticed that all of my Chilean Mesquites were oozing a sticky, clear substance on their trunks and branches. That substance has now hardened. What called my attention to this was that one of the Mesquites, which looked completely healthy a few weeks ago, now looks dead. Can you tell me what is causing this problem, and will all the rest of my Mesquites die too? Is there anything that I can do about this? Thanks for any information or help that you can give me.Best regards, Claire. From gizmoaz@home.com Sun Jul 29 14:27:17 2001 From: gizmoaz@home.com (GizmoAZ) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:27:17 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] planting cat's claw References: Message-ID: <3B641D45.FDA5CA35@home.com> Donald, You can plant cats claw any time. But when it's first getting started you will want to keep it watered. After the first year watering once a week should be plenty. ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Donald Garnett wrote: > Does anyone have an answer for this? I'd like to know when to > plantcat's claw vine, although it's not clear whether the question > wasabout cat's claw vine or cat's claw acacia. phg@citieswestpub.com > wrote: > When's the best time of year to plant cat's claw? I planted > two in November... > From gizmoaz@home.com Sun Jul 29 14:30:21 2001 From: gizmoaz@home.com (GizmoAZ) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:30:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107291408.f6TE8CW16080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B641DFD.B9D63DEB@home.com> I'm assuming that you are talking about the Australian Willow (Geijera parviflora). This is a wonderful tree, I have one in my yard. I love the filtered shade that it allows on my roses in the afternoon. You should be able to get it at any nursery or tree nursery, it is a pretty common tree. ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! 2hawg@msn.com wrote: > I would like to know where I can buy a > desert willow tree to put in our yard. > I live in an area that can support this > beautiful tree and can not find a place to > purchase this plant. > > Thanks for your help. > > Sandy > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rs.paxson@worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 29 19:25:35 2001 From: rs.paxson@worldnet.att.net (rs.paxson@worldnet.att.net) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:25:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107291925.f6TJPZW04977@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have what I consider a large mesquite tree. I have let the branches grow out and from tree trunk some are as long as maybe ten feet. I try to keep the inner branches cut to allow the wind to pass ro reduce risk of uprooting in high winds. What has happened is one of the limbs coming off the tree trunk split at the trunk about 6 inches and a gap now appears between the trunk and limb. 1) What action do I need to take to save the tree? 2) What preventive action should I take to preclude another occurrence with a different branch? I assume I should cut back the length of the braches to reduce the weight bearing where the brach and trunk come together. I have resisted doing this in the past because of the pretty shape of the tree. I have not had to deal with these type of trees before so I may not be following the correct pruning or dressing of the this type of tree. Thank you for your time. From on.my.hokon1@home.com Sun Jul 29 21:14:49 2001 From: on.my.hokon1@home.com (on.my.hokon1@home.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:14:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107292114.f6TLEnW12492@Ag.Arizona.Edu> on my lantans there are little webs with white specks in side of them.? what are these. thank you harold From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 30 00:41:37 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:41:37 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquites oozing sap. Message-ID: Claire, It is common for mesquites to ooze sap and is probably not the cause of your tree dying. The mesquite is quite drought tolerant once they become established ( four to five years ), however during the summer in the low desert they should have periodic deep watering. A stress condition would cause the tree to drop all its leaves. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 30 00:41:36 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:41:36 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] White flies Message-ID: <7e.1872467f.28960740@aol.com> Harold, What you are seeing on your lantana are white flies. They can usually be controlled by washing them off with a strong spray of water. Be sure to wash on the under side of the leaves. If they become real bad you may have to wash every 3 days. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 30 00:41:38 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:41:38 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite losing limbs Message-ID: <25.18c7d4e9.28960742@aol.com> If the angle between the trunk and the limb was acute (very narrow) a weakened condition existed which was worsened by the length of the limb and the fact that you pruned off all the inside branches. If the tree is quite valuble I would suggest that you have a certified arborist look at it and advise you whether or not the limb and or the tree can be saved. With the limb in the condition you describe it should be removed ASAP as it represents a hazardous condition. The following link will give you a list of certified arborists: http://www2.champaign.isa-arbor.com/arborists/arborist.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 30 01:13:28 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:13:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Desert Willow - Chilopsis Linearis References: <200107291408.f6TE8CW16080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B64B4B8.CCED8B18@qwest.net> http://azcentral.plantadviser.com/plants/chilline.htm The above link will show you a picture of Desert Willow (Chilopsis linearis) along with a description. If this is the tree you are looking for, you can generally find it at most of the valley nurseries. I believe ours came came from Treeland Nursery on Arizona Ave. Sue Bass Master Gardener 2hawg@msn.com wrote: > I would like to know where I can buy a > desert willow tree to put in our yard. > I live in an area that can support this > beautiful tree and can not find a place to > purchase this plant. > > Thanks for your help. > > Sandy > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From millero@worldnet.att.net Mon Jul 30 05:48:10 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 22:48:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Melon Plants Weak & Yellow References: <200107281714.f6SHEmW23162@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <001801c118bb$43c32ce0$6252530c@j0r9501> There are many diseases and a few insects that can wipe out a melon crop. The first step should be to identify the problem. Whitefly populations are high in the west valley again this year and they can be a serious pest of melons. Take look at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/whitefly.htm to help ID the insect and, if that is the problem, you can concoct a spray from the instructions given there. It would need to be applied weekly or more frequently as new populations move in. If the damage to the plants is not too severe, it may be possible to salvage some of your crop. Nematodes could also be the problem. Inspect the roots of a few plants. If this is the problem, there isn't much one can do about it other than plant in a different location next time. Soil solarization or fumigation prior to planting will also help. See http://ipmwww.ncsu.edu/urban/cropsci/c06disea/nematode.html to help ID this problem There are also about a half dozen fungi and an equal number of viral diseases that could affect the plants. See http://ag.arizona.edu/PLP/plpext/diseases/vegetables/melon/melon.html for more information. Olin Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: > I planted a large melon garden in early summer. Many of the vines and leaves now are weak and yellow. Many still have flowers and developing fruit. What do I need to do to salvage the fruit and plants? From mhald@aztar.com Mon Jul 30 17:39:18 2001 From: mhald@aztar.com (mhald@aztar.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:39:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107301739.f6UHdHW08808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Planted a 36# Ficus Nitida approx 4 weeks ago. Getting conflicting answers re watering. What is a good schedule - I am watering now every 3rd day? Would like to get your input. Thanks Monika From jlq@interpac.net Mon Jul 30 19:04:45 2001 From: jlq@interpac.net (jlq@interpac.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:04:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107301904.f6UJ4jW26157@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Aloha, I live in Hawaii and recently successfully germinated date palm seeds sent to me by my father from his tree in Phoenix, AZ. They grew to seedlings of 7to 8 inches, and 2 weeks ago I transplanted them into the ground. They were doing great, but now the tips of the leaves are turning yellow and then brown and seem to be dying out. Any help or info on what the problem may be? I would appreciate any input you may have, as I don't want to loose them if I can help it! If you need more info from me, please let me know. Mahalo Nui Loa, Joanne Quickel From bevg521@aol.com Mon Jul 30 19:11:17 2001 From: bevg521@aol.com (bevg521@aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:11:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107301911.f6UJBHW27578@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have saved seeds from my Native trees Mesquite, Palo Verde, etc. Can I soak them overnite and plant them? Any suggestions?? tree cuttings??? From Hurleygram@aol.com Mon Jul 30 22:04:06 2001 From: Hurleygram@aol.com (Hurleygram@aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:04:06 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] question about locust suckers Message-ID: <72.d8e53e8.289733d6@aol.com> --part1_72.d8e53e8.289733d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, The only trees that prosper in our area are live oaks and locust trees. Can i cut off the suckers of the locust and transplant them in more useful locations? I live in the mountains between Banning, and Idllwild California, zip code 92220, elevation about 4000 feet. Thank you, Sincerely, C.Hurley --part1_72.d8e53e8.289733d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,
The only trees that prosper in our area are live oaks and locust trees.
Can i cut off the suckers of the locust and transplant them in more useful
locations?
I live in the mountains between Banning, and Idllwild California, zip code
92220, elevation about 4000 feet.
Thank you,
Sincerely,
C.Hurley --part1_72.d8e53e8.289733d6_boundary-- From mishelle@usscreen.com Mon Jul 30 22:38:02 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:38:02 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Master Gardener Classes Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010730153048.02992da0@usscreen.com> Hello, I'm hoping that some of the Master Gardeners on the list can reply to me privately, as this might not be of interest to many. I'm interested in applying for the Master Gardeners program to be held January 2002- May 2002. I have read all of the information on the web, but I still have several questions. How hard is it to get in? What kinds of questions are on the application? Do I need to study the Master Gardeners Manual before filling out the application? This is something I think I would really enjoy and be good at. I'm looking forward to any information you can share with me. Thanks, Mishelle From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 30 22:55:59 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:55:59 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Red Mexican Bird of Paradise Message-ID: <60.11a824c8.28973fff@aol.com> Peggy, I have never timed the length of time that it takes for red birds to bloom after being pruned however I would guess that two months would be time enough for them to be blooming again. I pruned some red birds last week and already there is about 2 inches of new growth. Incidentally drop the Mexican out of the name and the name will be correct. The Mexican Bird of Paradise has yellow blooms. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 30 22:56:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:56:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering newly planted tree Message-ID: Monika, (If your tree has been in the ground for one month you should be able to water every 4 days for the next 2 or 3 weeks and then go to every 5 days for 2 or 3 weeks and then to 6 days etc. Each time you increase the interval then you should increase the amount of water. Watch the tree for wilting after you make a change. If you are using drip irrigation be sure to leave one or two drippers over the root ball for the rest of this season until the roots get established in the surounding soil. Good luck Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From Valpogrl@aol.com Tue Jul 31 00:24:48 2001 From: Valpogrl@aol.com (Valpogrl@aol.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:24:48 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Master Gardener Classes Message-ID: <112.2705c29.289754d0@aol.com> --part1_112.2705c29.289754d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually Mishelle, I also have questions regarding the classes. Adding to yours I have an additional one. Do any of the Master Gardener's work in the "industry" and if so has this info been helpful? Years ago I worked at a local nursery as a cashier. Although I hated the cashier part I loved working with plants. I wondered if the course would (hopefully) increase my salary and (more importantly) move me out of cashier into a position where I would be working more "hands on" with plants. As with Mishelle, you may want to respond privately to me, since again this may not interest many readers. Thanks, Cindy --part1_112.2705c29.289754d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually Mishelle,  I also have questions regarding the classes. Adding to
yours I have an additional one. Do any of the Master Gardener's work in the
"industry" and if so has this info been helpful?  

Years ago I worked at a local nursery as a cashier. Although I hated the
cashier part I loved working with plants. I wondered if the course would
(hopefully) increase my salary and (more importantly) move me out of cashier
into a position where I would be working more "hands on" with plants.

As with Mishelle, you may want to respond privately to me, since again this
may not interest many readers.

Thanks,

Cindy --part1_112.2705c29.289754d0_boundary-- From Kathy.Drivaras@ReadRite.com Tue Jul 31 01:44:21 2001 From: Kathy.Drivaras@ReadRite.com (Kathy.Drivaras@ReadRite.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:44:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <9BAB537A4562D4119B4700805F778201026837D5@frexch01.readrite.com> From SAHend@webtv.net Tue Jul 31 02:47:34 2001 From: SAHend@webtv.net (SAHend@webtv.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:47:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107310247.f6V2lYW12797@Ag.Arizona.Edu> My cousin in New Mexico in having great problems with borers attacking his peach trees and cottonwoods.Any suggestions. Thanks From catophile@totacc.com Tue Jul 31 02:54:13 2001 From: catophile@totacc.com (Kathy O'Mara) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:54:13 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lo Desert Question Message-ID: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> Is Las Cruces, NM considered "Lo Desert"? What is the difference between Lo and Hi Desert? Kathy O From umiller@azdps.com Tue Jul 31 03:37:04 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:37:04 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lo Desert Question In-Reply-To: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> Message-ID: Kathy - I looked up Las Cruces in my Sunset Western Garden book and it indicates that it's in their zone 10, which is the High Desert. The high desert consists mostly of 3,300-4,500 foot elevations with a definite winter season and 75-100 nights a year with temperatures below 32 degrees F. The low desert - zone 13, on the other hand, ranges from below sea level to 1,100 feet elevation with short mild winters and hot summers. This area has 15 nights below freezing. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Kathy O'Mara Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:54 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lo Desert Question Is Las Cruces, NM considered "Lo Desert"? What is the difference between Lo and Hi Desert? Kathy O _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Tue Jul 31 05:38:30 2001 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:38:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] How long do black-eyed peas produce? References: <3B661DD3.32316925@totacc.com> Message-ID: <003001c11983$2ac2bc60$e6a10404@oemcomputer> My black-eyed peas, planted in March, are now dying. They've produced two batches of beans. Is this normal for Tucson? j From montis@montis.com Tue Jul 31 05:41:50 2001 From: montis@montis.com (montis@montis.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 22:41:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107310541.f6V5foW02446@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Greetings. I have a problem with a drip irrigation system I installed. At many of the emitters, a clump of tiny filaments has formed on and just beneath the surface of the soil. The growth has enclosed the 1/4" emitter tubing in some areas. I was wondering if it could be a moss or fungus, and whether it could be choking the plants near the emitters. I have some digital photos, if anyone would like to take a shot at identifying this stuff. Thanks. From lbradley@sisna.com Tue Jul 31 14:29:14 2001 From: lbradley@sisna.com (Lucy Bradley) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:29:14 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: toxic plants - wildlife In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010730142027.007cf3f0@ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010731065416.01d0f030@ag.arizona.edu> Thanks Kim! Lucy At 02:20 PM 7/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Lucy Bradley forwarded your request regarding a list of plants that are >toxic to wildlife. I talked to a wildlife habitat specialist with the >Arizona Game & Fish Department who said that she knows of no list of plants >toxic to wildlife. She said that unlike domestic livestock, wildlife >generally do not eat things that are toxic to them. > >If you have any further questions, please let me know. > >Kim McReynolds >Area Extension Agent, Natural Resources >The University of Arizona Cooperative Extension >phone (520) 384-3594 From cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu Tue Jul 31 17:29:58 2001 From: cnoyes@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:29:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] New landscaping book released Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010731102901.00ab1770@ag.arizona.edu> Desert Landscaping for Beginners is ready for summer reading! Written by local experts, the book includes chapters on desert plants, planting, watering, pruning, problem diagnosis, seasonal pests, frost protection, cacti & succulents, wildflowers, wildlife habitats, citrus, roses, and turf. Published by Arizona Master Gardener Press in conjunction with the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension. For more info, http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/dsrtlnsc.htm Carol Noyes Admin Secretary Ext. 308 Horticulture/Master Gardener programs Maricopa County http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden From pimagirl@hotmail.com Tue Jul 31 18:23:53 2001 From: pimagirl@hotmail.com (pimagirl@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:23:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107311823.f6VINrW04125@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can a creosote bush be transplanted and how? Thank You. From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Tue Jul 31 19:22:32 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:22:32 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] New landscaping book released References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010731102901.00ab1770@ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3B670578.2C8201A@email.sps.mot.com> Carol, Can you give us an idea of what local bookstores are carrying it, so that we do not have to go bookstore hopping looking for it? Thanks, ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 173 Rose Bushes Planted! 101 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Carol Noyes wrote: > Desert Landscaping for Beginners is ready for summer reading! Written by > local experts, the book includes chapters on desert plants, planting, > watering, pruning, problem diagnosis, seasonal pests, frost protection, > cacti & succulents, wildflowers, wildlife habitats, citrus, roses, and turf. > > Published by Arizona Master Gardener Press in conjunction with the > University of Arizona Cooperative Extension. For more info, > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/dsrtlnsc.htm > Carol Noyes > Admin Secretary > Ext. 308 > Horticulture/Master Gardener programs > Maricopa County > > http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From trjourney@hotmail.com Tue Jul 31 19:24:43 2001 From: trjourney@hotmail.com (trjourney@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:24:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107311924.f6VJOhW15363@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have a shamel ash tree in our back yard. The tree is about 10 years old and about 20 feet tall. The past 3 years or so it has developed clusters of what appear to be seed pods, about an inch or so long. These pods are very messy and annoying. When the wind blows, they blow into the yard or into the pool. Is there any way to prevent these pods from forming, or to get rid of them "easily" after they've formed? From crymer@Ag.Arizona.Edu Tue Jul 31 21:46:59 2001 From: crymer@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Cathy Rymer) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:46:59 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Master Gardener Classes In-Reply-To: <112.2705c29.289754d0@aol.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010731143430.00aec630@ag.arizona.edu> Greetings, There have been a couple of questions come in from the list about the Master Gardener training program, so I would like to pass along some information. This is an educational outreach program for the University of Arizona, College of Agriculture and Life Sciences in Maricopa County. We have a corps of approximately 400 active Master Gardeners that try to educate homeowners about environmentally responsible gardening in the low desert. Our mission is to promote water conservation and water quality, the efficient use of pesticides (herbicides and insecticides) through IPM practices, reduce green waste and encourage creation of wildlife habitats. Master Gardeners accomplish this through a variety of mediums. Our most prominent means of contact is through our telephone hot line system. Volunteers answer more than 25,000 calls each year. The arid_gardener list serve is monitored by Master Gardener volunteers and provides a great way to help residents. Master Gardeners also give talks to schools, homeowner groups, garden clubs and others on a variety of topics. For instance, growing roses successfully in the desert or how to prune trees for health and beauty. We publish one newsletter each month and a bi-monthly journal that are mailed to a base of about 750. Master Gardeners staff a booth at 12 major trade shows (home improvement type) where we are able to contact thousands of people eager to know everything from how to grow vegetables for home consumption to effectively landscaping their yard for rainwater harvesting. We are looking for volunteers to help us accomplish the mission of the program. Along the way you will learn principles that may help you in your own yard. We ask that you pass on what you have learned to others - its a "train the trainer" process. We have many Master Gardeners that are also landscape architects and designers, horticulturists (two are water conservation specialists with local cities), certified arborists, lecturers, educators, etc. The next training will be held in Mesa beginning in January 2002. We move the location and times of the classes around the valley so more folks have an opportunity to participate. Next summer we will hold classes on Wednesday evenings from July - October. Take a look at the Master Gardener web page for class locations and times. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/mgs/mg-broch.htm If you have any other questions, please let me know. Cathy Catherine Rymer Instructional Specialist, Sr., Urban Horticulture Certified Arborist WC-5216 University of Arizona Maricopa County Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Phoenix, AZ 85040 http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 31 21:45:58 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:45:58 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Seed pods Message-ID: <24.16fe097a.28988116@aol.com> Seed pods are natures way of reproducing new plants. Sorry but there is not a way to stop this process and you really shouldn't want to. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 31 21:45:59 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:45:59 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Creasote bush, transplanting Message-ID: <3e.f3579f6.28988117@aol.com> Many desert plants do not transplant well. Since I have not tried this one I'll refer you to the Master Gardener Manual chapter on Arborculture where you will find info on planting: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Tue Jul 31 21:45:57 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:45:57 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drip lines with filaments surrounding them Message-ID: Could the filaments you are seeing be plant roots? How often and for how long are you watering and for what plants? Rod McKusick Master Gardener From corys@southwestjet.com Tue Jul 31 22:18:51 2001 From: corys@southwestjet.com (corys@southwestjet.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:18:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107312218.f6VMIoW14810@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Could you please tell me what kind of flowers can I plant in our built into the ground planter. Folks are coming at the end of August from NY and I would like to have pretty, colorful flowers in our planters. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. PS Could you please use layman names of the flowers? Thanks! From nmhartmann@yahoo.com Tue Jul 31 22:33:17 2001 From: nmhartmann@yahoo.com (nmhartmann@yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:33:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107312233.f6VMXHW16781@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a date palm and am trying to learn how to tell when they are ripe, how to harvest and how to dry? Any suggestions for where to look for this information. From millero@worldnet.att.net Tue Jul 17 05:05:53 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? References: Message-ID: <004d01c10e7e$b7806e00$d851530c@j0r9501> Tomatoes are not well adapted in Phoenix and it is pretty normal with this heat if you don't provide some kind of shade or partial shade and even irrigation. As I recall, you are in Tucson so your season should last a little longer. We have 44 plants this year of 22 different varieties. The season is pretty much over for deteminate (bush) types but we still get 2 pickings per week from the indeterminate types although the yield is decreasing and the fruit is ripening at a smaller size than 3 weeks ago. Early Girl should go for a few more weeks under 50% shade. If you go to the trouble of keeping the plants alive during the summer (using moisture and shade, it may bear again in the fall when the weather cools again but it would be easier and more productive to just set out new plants in September. Celebrity is a mid season determinate type which you need to get out in the garden by about mid February (in Phoenix) to get a decent crop - it will only bear one time. Beans don't seem to mind the heat too much if you provide enough water but you usually only get a few pickings. I plan to pull out my green beans Monday, the plants are pretty much spent. I have never been successful in growing Lima Beans. But check Geo. Brookbank's "Desert Gardening" book. He has an entire chapter on tomatoes in the book which is obviously geared to the Tucson climate. According to him, tomatoes in Tucson don't start to decline until July. Here in Phoenix, decline in June with the high heat levels is not unusual. Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Kandell" Cc: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:29 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Early Girl last whole summer? > My early girl tomatoes are turning brown and yellow, after generating some > nice fruit. My celebrity is still green. My other plants are ok too. Is > this normal? On a related theme, many of my plants seem to be turning dry > and brown and dying: green beans, lima beans, ... Is this the result of > underwatering? The 100+ heat? Is it normal this time of year? > > jk > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From nfivebad@att.net Sun Jul 1 01:39:40 2001 From: nfivebad@att.net (nfivebad@att.net) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:39:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are interested in starting some cat claw vines. A neighbor has clippings available. What is a good procedure? Thank You From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 01:53:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 18:53:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Propagating Cat's Claw Vine References: <200107010139.f611dew27983@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E827D.D7BCED07@qwest.net> The following link will take you to the chapter on plant propagation in the Master Gardener Manual http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/propagation/index.html This should get you on your way to propagating your own vines. Sue Bass nfivebad@att.net wrote: > We are interested in starting some cat claw > vines. A neighbor has clippings available. > What is a good procedure? > > Thank You > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:17:01 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:17:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering Cactus and Agave References: <200106011541.f51FfVB16188@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E881D.D788B200@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding watering cactus and agave. According to Mary Irish's book, "Agaves, Yuccas, and Related Plants", in the hot deserts, water agaves every 10 days in the summer, more frequently if it is very hot. It is a poor practice to water agaves in the ground frequently with small amounts of water, so if a plant is in a basin, fill up the basin and let the water percolate slowly into the soil. In moderate climates, or in the spring and fall in the hot deserts, watering every three weeks is sufficient. Mary points out in her book that agaves signal water stress by having a wrinkled or withered appearance on the surface of the leaf. Leaves that fall or flop often indicate much more serious problems or such extreme water stress that one needs to act immediately. Wrinkling will correct with a good watering. Mary also responded to a similar question regarding the watering of cactus and agave stating that "depending on the species and the size and age of the plant it can range from a monthly soaking to almost once a week. Most do not require any winter irrigation if there is any winter rain at all if they are over 2 years in the ground." It is better not to overwater, so for the cactus a monthly soaking would probably be your best bet. But always keep an eye on your plant and watch for water stress. Hope this helps! Sue Bass Master Gardener > How often should catus plants such as agave > be watered? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:29:03 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Iris References: <200106050051.f550pWB04729@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8AEF.5B71ACF8@qwest.net> I did not see that you had received a response to your question regarding Iris. I have not grown Iris since moving to the low desert myself, but the following answer in our archives leads me to believe that you leave them in the ground unless you want to separate them. You can view the response from Dixie Humphries at: http://ag.arizona.edu/hypermail/arid_gardener/0876.html Sue Bass Master Gardener tgeddes135@aol.com wrote: > What do I do with my Iris bed now that they have finished blooming. Do I leave the bulbs in the ground or do I dig them up? > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 02:35:25 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fig recipes References: <200106150054.f5F0soq24085@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3E8C6D.486B8B9F@qwest.net> You might try the following web sites for fig recipes: http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/plantanswers/recipes/figs/figindex.html http://www.valleyfig.com/recipes.htm http://www.freep.com/fun/food/qfigrec5.htm http://www.californiafigs.com/ http://www.samcooks.com/EatFresh/Fruit/fig-recipes.htm Sue Bass aekozmiuk@hotmail.com wrote: > I will be having a lot of figs soon. I don't know how to fix them. Do you have some recipes or ideas for me. > I would appreciate any help you can give me. > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From DAnde25974@aol.com Sun Jul 1 04:00:53 2001 From: DAnde25974@aol.com (DAnde25974@aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:00:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? Daniel From maleyd@aol.com Sun Jul 1 15:48:35 2001 From: maleyd@aol.com (maleyd@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 08:48:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011548.f61FmZw21442@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 21 yr. old Modesto Ash tree growing in my flood irrigated yard which has been losing branches due to breakage. The limbs seem too heavy toward the tips causing them to bend down toward the ground. With branches hanging down, it seems like a moderare breese causes them to break. This same tree has some dead bramnches in the center which may or may not be related to the breakage problem. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Dan From stevebethparker@kna.to Sun Jul 1 17:35:12 2001 From: stevebethparker@kna.to (stevebethparker@kna.to) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:35:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 18:33:12 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Transplanted Aloes References: <200107011735.f61HZCw27994@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F6CE8.3029964B@qwest.net> Aloes prefer afternoon shade and thrive in filtered shade of high canopy trees. Given that the aloe you transplanted were growing in complete shade I would suspect that their new home is quite a shock to them. As for irrigation, after transplanting, the root area of the plant needs to be kept moist but not wet until new root development becomes established. Watering every other day is probably too much. Even though the surface of the soil may appear dry, the root area is probably still moist. Check the soil moisture at rooting depth before watering to avoid over-wet soils. The best rule of thumb for irrigating desert plants is Don't over-irrigate at any time - if in doubt, don't. Most desert plants are more tolerant of too little soil moisture than too much. Sue Bass Master Gardener stevebethparker@kna.to wrote: > help!!! I dug up and transplanted 7 true aloe plant from a house that was being demolished. note; they were in complete shade, but outside!I have had them in the ground at my house for two weeks now and the bottom leaves are browning and the upper bigger leaves are firm but listing and more white than when I planted them. they are in full sun. and i watered every other day lightly for the two week period. are they in shock or being sunburnt or what? what should i do to save these plants. thank you s hill > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Sun Jul 1 19:09:35 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:09:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grey water in the Landscape References: <200107010400.f6140rw08895@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3F756F.D0B0F7C4@qwest.net> You can view a publication on grey water use from the Water Resources Research Center (WRRC), College of Agriculture, University of AZ by going to the following link: http://ag.arizona.edu/AZWATER/arroyo/071rain.html Sue Bass Master Gardener DAnde25974@aol.com wrote: > Where can I find information on using grey water in my landscape/garden? > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:34:40 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:34:40 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Shamel Ash losing limbs Message-ID: <6e.c6d1aa4.2870d550@aol.com> Dan, The Shamel Ash is a very fast growing tree and because of its fast growth does not develop the strength that a slower growing tree does. It is common for this tree's branches to break and fall. When the tree is young proper pruning can minimise the amount of breakage that it has at a later date. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun Jul 1 19:51:57 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:51:57 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Mesquite dying Message-ID: <115.113112a.2870d95d@aol.com> Tim, The total vegetation killer is the culprit. You not only have killed your weeds but your tree also. If the chemical you used is a soil sterilent you may not be able to plant any thing in that area for years, again depending on the chemical that was in the total vegetation killer. If you have other trees or intend to plant others your irrigation practice leaves something to be desired. The mesquite would be much happier if deep watered once every two weeks in summer. Check out this website for proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jfmattern@worldnet.att.net Sun Jul 1 22:38:34 2001 From: jfmattern@worldnet.att.net (jfmattern@worldnet.att.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:38:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. Here is a list of what we have: cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? From annmarienewman@earthlink.net Sun Jul 1 22:45:56 2001 From: annmarienewman@earthlink.net (annmarienewman@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 15:45:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 00:51:34 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 17:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Irrigation schedule References: <200107012238.f61McYw18080@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC596.434DCE45@qwest.net> 3 minutes is definitely not long enough. All of these plants require deep watering. The following links will take you to information on proper irrigation. The first one: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/irrigation/index.html is a chapter from the Master Gardener Manual on irrigation. The second: http://www.amwua.org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm Is from the Arizona Municipal Water Users Association (AMWUA) and is a watering schedule for summer and winter irrigation. With the heat we are having, check out the watering schedule from AMWUA and make the corrections as soon as possible. Sue Bass Master Gardener jfmattern@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Our plants (trees, shrub,& flowers)are on a drip system. We set our timer to water 3x's a week for 3 min. It looks like our plants are requiring more water, however, we are unable to ascertain how much and how often to water. > Here is a list of what we have: > cape honeysuckle, iris, lantana, gardenia,boxwood beauty, ficus trees, poodle plants, tripical bird, bougainvilla, queen palms, citrus, rose bushes, hybiscus, purple sage, desert palm. > Do you have a pamphlet, or could you refer me to a website that has all this information? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Mon Jul 2 01:00:26 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 18:00:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Worms for composting References: <200107012245.f61Mjuw18575@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B3FC7A9.9B693E85@qwest.net> The following site will give you information on where to purchase worms for composting: http://www.mastercomposter.com/vendor/buyworms.html Sue Bass Master Gardener annmarienewman@earthlink.net wrote: > Where can I purchase composting worms? I have a special composter that uses these types of worms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From casalzer1@cs.com Mon Jul 2 14:45:36 2001 From: casalzer1@cs.com (casalzer1@cs.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:45:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021445.f62Ejaw09410@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am moving to the west valley in late August and have been told this may be a bad time to plant trees. I have visited a couple of nurserys and they told me it would be no problem. Do you have any input for me? I am planning on planting ficus, plum, orange, lemon, apricot and a few others. Thank you for your assistance. Chris Salzer From ram6260@yahoo.com Mon Jul 2 16:12:37 2001 From: ram6260@yahoo.com (BOB RAMSEY) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] cats claw hurting stucco Message-ID: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for painting. Is this true and are there other choices for a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu Mon Jul 2 16:17:13 2001 From: kpetersn@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Kathleen Peterson) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:17:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Farm and Home In-Reply-To: <3B3E898D.489FBF68@qwest.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010702091124.00ab7ec0@ag.arizona.edu> Farm and Home is no longer on (unfortunately). Channel 15 KNXV is looking to put a segment on the Sonoran Living show that deals with gardening. John Chapman (a Master Gardener) will be the host and will treat it "Bob Villa style" (from This Old House) as he interviews the experts. John has been working closely with extension to select possible topics ect. It is not 100% yet, so you might want to contact Channel 15 and let them know it is a program you would be interested in. >Is the program "Farm and Home" still on? If so what channel and what time? >I really enjoyed it and miss it. >Thank you. From mishelle@usscreen.com Mon Jul 2 18:38:38 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Hello,. I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm in the Tempe area. Thanks, Mishelle From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon Jul 2 18:53:32 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 18:53:32 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: squirrels; citrus Message-ID: >From: Mark Rosati >To: drew_linda@hotmail.com >Subject: master gardener questions >Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:28:17 -0700 > >Master gardener questions, > >My first question is about ground squirrels. >My backyard backs up to a Phoenix Mountain Preserve (seems to be >preserved thus far). The plants in my landscape are Southwestern and >Mexican natives. The round-tailed squirrels, rock squirrels, and desert >cottontail infrequently browse my plants. The real trouble squirrels >are the Harris Antelope ground squirrels. They dig into plant roots >aggressively and nibble (and sometimes devastate) Agaves, cacti, and >several subshrubs. > > Help!!, how do I deter/repel them. > >My second question has to do with citrus tree flowering and fruiting. > >One year ago I planted a tangelo, navel orange, and grapefuit (15 gallon >container size). They appear healthy and happy (dark green and growing) >with the amount of water and fertilizer I give them, however, they >dropped almost all of their flowers and the remaining fruit dropped >after a few weeks. > > Thanks again for any info or referrals you can provide. > Mark > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Mourningdove50@aol.com Mon Jul 2 19:28:12 2001 From: Mourningdove50@aol.com (Mourningdove50@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:28:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107021928.f62JSCw26220@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dear Master gardener, Several weeks ago, I lost a hibiscus to, what I thought was improper amounts of water.The plant yellowed, then died completely, even after I put a higher gph emitter on it. Two days ago, I noticed the one about 4 ft. away from that one exhibiting the same symtoms, including the same tip burning of the leaves in several areas of the plant, along with small dead flower buds. I suspected that the herbicide that my gardener used might be the culprit. I examined all of the plants in my front yard, which is the only area that he maintains for me,and noticed the same sort of damage on my cape honeysuckle. And on my queen palm, the new growth is yellow and looks very weak . I have flooded the area with water under each of these plants in the hope that I might save them, There was no hope for the first hibiscus because, I think I noticed the damage too late. Do you think the herbicide he uses on the weeds may have infiltrated the soil? Also it looks like a drift might have occured because some of the leaves are severely damaged, and some are just yellowing. I would appreciate any help you can give me regarding this, my hibiscus is 12 years old, and I am devistated. I plan to ask him if I may read the container of the product he is using.Also, I would like to know if there is a place that I can send samples of the plants to be tested for herbicide exposure. Sincerly yours, Cahterine G Bauerlein From RodMcQ6@aol.com Mon Jul 2 21:51:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:51:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Trees in August Message-ID: <6b.1693c27a.287246c4@aol.com> Chris, Trees can be planted in August in the low desert, the landscapers do it all the time. Personally I would wait a month or two when the temperatures are less severe and the risk to the trees is is greatly reduced. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From rbcakane@aol.com Tue Jul 3 01:47:15 2001 From: rbcakane@aol.com (rbcakane@aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107030147.f631lFw23335@Ag.Arizona.Edu> we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... From Crisser8372@aol.com Tue Jul 3 15:27:33 2001 From: Crisser8372@aol.com (Crisser8372@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris From mflowers@home.com Tue Jul 3 15:28:27 2001 From: mflowers@home.com (mflowers@home.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107031528.f63FSRI12804@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank you,Mark Flowers From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Tue Jul 3 15:48:58 2001 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B41E96A.C9713184@email.sps.mot.com> Hi Chris, I think one of the best resources for plants in the west is the Sunset Western Gardener Handbook. You can purchase it at the following website: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0376038748/o/qid=994175185/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-2078933-2218332 However, I have found it a little cheaper at our local Home Depot. This has been the best took I ever could have purchased for my landscape planning. It is my bible so to speak. I take it with me whenever I go to any garden shop. I have lots of pictures of plants on my website as well, although mostly roses, so you might want to check it out to get some ideas as well. Hope this helps! :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 172 Rose Bushes Planted! 100 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From ej10817@goodnet.com Tue Jul 3 16:38:12 2001 From: ej10817@goodnet.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010703093541.00b3d010@mail.winstarmail.com> Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering practice. Thanks Pat From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:50:14 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:50:14 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] citrus fruit drop Message-ID: Here is an earl;ier posting that may answer the question: "Fruit drop is natures way of ridding the fruit tree of fruit the tree cannot handle. Fruit drop is also caused by a stress condition on the tree such as inadequate irrigation, over fertilization or an improper chemical application as well as other things. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener" Extreme hot, dry weather and wind can cause stress even if the water schedule is unchanged. >From: Pat >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 > >Hi all, this has probably been discussed many times but since I don't have >the problem I would have ignored it. A friend has a problem with his >grapefruit tree, the fruit turned brown and dropped off before it got very >big. It this a watering problem, he said he hasn't changed his watering >practice. Thanks > >Pat > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 19:55:34 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:55:34 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] shade trees, non-invasive roots Message-ID: Xylosma congestum are planted close to the walls of the Pima County Cooperative Extension building. They have been there about 10 years and we have not seen any problems. -- one possibility Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: mflowers@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:28:27 -0700 (MST) > >I want to plant some shade trees next to a block wall - I don't have much >room in my yard, so the closer, the better, maybe ~3 feet from the wall. I >want to know what selections would have the least effect on damaging the >wall's foundation. I have a few palms which haven't damaged the wall >although they're that close, as their roots do not exend very far and are >quite weak. Are there other choices of trees which would offer more >shade?Also - are there any "tricks" to keep the roots from doing harm?Thank >you,Mark Flowers > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:05:08 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:05:08 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscape ideas Message-ID: Chris, Arizona Department of Water Resources has produced several color books for gardening in the desert. These are available free of charge (I think) by the city water department in Peoria. Contact them -- sorry I don't have a phone #/address but others on this list may be able to help. Or you can call ADWR at (602) 417-2465. The latest publication is: Xeriscape: Landscaping with Style in the Arizona Desert Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Crisser8372@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:27:33 -0700 (MST) > >HI, >I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can >direct me, thanks. >My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban >Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating >their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban >Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > >Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of >flowers/trees >grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you >can >do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to >help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > >Thank you. >Chris > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:12:17 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have seen large numbers this year. Here is information posted 3 years ago about these insects: "How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" Michelle, An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor ;-) http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and then they'll migrate. Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have such an inviting environment. Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. Lucy Bradley >From: rbcakane@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) > >we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what are >these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jul 3 20:19:39 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:19:39 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug Message-ID: oops -- the document moved in three years -- here is the correct site: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/f-chinch.htm >From: "Linda Drew" >To: rbcakane@aol.com, arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] false chinch bug >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:12:17 -0000 > >You might be describing false chinch bugs. We have >seen large numbers this year. Here is information >posted 3 years ago about these insects: > >"How to Cope with zillions of False Chinch Bugs > >Lucy Bradley (bradleyl@ag.arizona.edu) >Wed, 06 May 1998 18:04:01 -0700 > > Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] > Next message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > Previous message: TJones6516: "Re: arid_gardener-digest V1 #101" > >Michelle, > >An unusually wet winter has led to higher than normal weed populations >which has led to a build up in the False Chinch Bug population. > >See our website on False Chinch Bugs which I updated today in your honor >;-) > >http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/pests/f-chinch.htm > >Unfortunately at this point there is not much that you can do to control >the population. The good news is that they don't bite and they aren't >doing any damage to your landscape or your house. You will only have to >put of with the nuisance of the large bug population for a little while and >then they'll migrate. > >Next year you can help reduce the problem by having your neighbors with the >vacant lot control the weed populations so the False Chinch bugs don't have >such an inviting environment. > >Hang in there, they'll be gone soon. > >Lucy Bradley > > >>From: rbcakane@aol.com >>To: >>Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:47:15 -0700 (MST) >> >>we are now 'infested' with what i have heard are 'bark ticks'.... what >>are >>these and can they do harm....? ...Small red,vblack and brown flying, >>ground crawling insects... narrow,,, stream line..... >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Arid_gardener mailing list >>Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From rcdemark@aol.com Tue Jul 3 22:13:39 2001 From: rcdemark@aol.com (rcdemark@aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:13:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107032213.f63MDdI29939@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a 2 year old Fig tree. The edges of the leaves sre turning brown on the edges. Then the leaf drops off. Is this normal? Anything I can do? It had one fig and it also droped off after it was on several weeks. Thanks. From umiller@azdps.com Tue Jul 3 22:39:58 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 15:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscaping in Peoria In-Reply-To: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: A book you could buy that covers only the dry desert areas like Peoria is "Plants for Dry Climates" by Duffield and Jones. You probably can't get this book in Chicago, but amazon.com sells it. Also, the Glendale Public Library (on 59th Avenue between Peoria and Olive, I think) has a desert garden with the plants labeled. It was made for viewing and to help people find plants that grow well out here. You might want to visit it when you're out here. Glendale is adjacent to Peoria, so it's probably near your in-laws' new home. Ursula Miller -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of Crisser8372@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 8:28 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page HI, I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can direct me, thanks. My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. Thank you. Chris _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From sjbass@qwest.net Tue Jul 3 23:11:55 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardening information for low desert References: <200107031527.f63FRXI12700@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B42513B.E9E1CC15@qwest.net> Chris: In addition to the other ideas that have been suggested, if you haven't done so, take some time and peruse our website. Lots of information to found and as well as book recommendations. The site is: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ Sue Bass Master Gardener Crisser8372@aol.com wrote: > HI, > I don't know if I'm at the right place. If I'm not, then maybe you can > direct me, thanks. > My sister and brother-in-law are moving to Peoria, Arizona from Suburban > Chicago, IL. They already bought a house and need help with coordinating > their landscaping. They are depending on me, because here in suburban > Chicago, IL, I was considered the gardening expert. > > Here's my situation. We don't know anything about what type of flowers/trees > grow best in Arizona. This is where we need help. Is there anything you can > do to help guide us on what to plant. I will be out there in September to > help with the landscaping. Any advise you have will be most helpful. > > Thank you. > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Wed Jul 4 00:12:22 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:12:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fall Tomatoes References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010702113357.027ceb30@usscreen.com> Message-ID: <3B425F66.52CC6A5@AuroraNow.org> I haven't seen any responses to Mishelle yet. I'd say not to worry, most of the nurseries here in the low desert stock up on tomatoes and other annuals in September. Mishelle Fresener wrote: > > Hello,. > > I really had my heart set on growing cherry and plum type fall tomatoes. I > tried to start some seeds last week and it's just not working. I know it's > because I don't have any "good" light in my house. I'm NOT an electrician, > and I don;t want to fork out $100.00 + dollars for a seed starting kit. > So....Does anyone know of a place that sells transplants in late summer. > Or.....does someone have transplant that they would like to sell/share? I'm > in the Tempe area. > > Thanks, > > Mishelle > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org ARC Worldwide -- http://www.extraordinarybook.com/arc/ office: (520) 578-2801 || page me online at AOL-IM: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced we are here for each other." -- R. Buckminster Fuller From georgereading@hotmail.com Wed Jul 4 00:14:31 2001 From: georgereading@hotmail.com (georgereading@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:14:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? Thank you. From leoneamerica@azwest.net Wed Jul 4 00:23:59 2001 From: leoneamerica@azwest.net (leoneamerica@azwest.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 17:23:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements From bevbob1962@cs.com Wed Jul 4 01:23:05 2001 From: bevbob1962@cs.com (bevbob1962@cs.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 18:23:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. From hsmenchaca@prodigy.net Wed Jul 4 02:58:10 2001 From: hsmenchaca@prodigy.net (hsmenchaca@prodigy.net) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:58:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040258.f642wAI29230@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have several Mesquite Trees in my pasture that I would like to transplant closer to my patio. I like the way they look and how they survive in the dry heat and cold weather. Please advise my on how to transplant, when to transplant, how big the trees should be , and what I should do to make they grow. Thanks for the advise, Hector Menchaca From southpawaz@home.com Wed Jul 4 03:08:53 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 20:08:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Argentine Giant References: <200107040014.f640EVI16675@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4288C5.C383ADDB@home.com> Hi George, I did an internet search using google.com for the phrase Argentine Giant. I found just one reference to a cactus by this name, a cactus grower who used that common name for the species Trichocereus gigantica. A google search for that species yielded no other references to a cactus by that name, so I suspect it is not a properly named cactus. Do you know the scientific name of the cactus you are asking about? georgereading@hotmail.com wrote: > > Could you please send me information on the care and history of Argentine giants. Are they related to Saguaro cacti? Why are they called "Argentine Giants?" How big do they get? > Thank you. > -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com N*G*G, W*W, R*S From JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com Wed Jul 4 05:28:39 2001 From: JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com (JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:28:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:06 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DN6I19307@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- :-) From music613@cyburban.com Wed Jul 4 13:23:53 2001 From: music613@cyburban.com (music613@cyburban.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 06:23:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in the living room that gets the morning sun), I would like to re-plant them into something more appropriate. How can I obtain the correct soil environment for these plants? Is there some commercial mixture available in AZ that I could buy and then have sent to me here? Or are there reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable watering schedule for these plants? My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any help you could provide would be much appreciated. If this experiment works, my grandchildren may have something beautiful to look at! Thanks- Avrohom Leichtling :-) From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:04:29 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Bulb storage (IRIS) References: <000701c10318$b6e2cd60$c459af3f@compaq> Message-ID: <3B43307D.FD0F97F6@qwest.net> --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County, AZ Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote: > I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a > newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap > them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How > cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in > the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 > degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and > beautiful when they bloom. --------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't usually dig and store irises in Phoenix. Why don't you contact our couonterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book. They will be in a position to give you better advice.

Linda Guy, MG
Maricopa County, AZ

Pete & Mary Jon McKenzie wrote:

 I thinned out (dug up) my french iris bulbs and have them lying on a newspaper in the carport.After they dry for a day or two should I wrap them in newspaper and put them in the storm shelter until Fall? How cool is cool? This is New Mexico and the coolest it probably gets in the storm shelter is 75 degrees. What about the refrigerator (40 degrees)? Sure could use your assistance. They are so delicate and beautiful when they bloom.
--------------F6C2630EC523A0163CCE37DF-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:06:40 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:06:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Commecial Flower Production References: <200107040023.f640NxI17591@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B433100.340EC3E1@qwest.net> If you have fall frosts, its doubtful that you live in the area that we are trained to serve....the low desert of Phoenix, AZ. Why not contact our counterparts in your own county's cooperative extension office, which you can locate in the blue government listings in your phone book? They will be in a position to give you better advice. Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County leoneamerica@azwest.net wrote: > I want to grow cutting flowers this fall for commercial sales. What types may I plant in the fall that will tolerate our frosts? I need talled flowers to sell for arrangements > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:11:26 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:11:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palm Problems References: <200107040123.f641N5I22170@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43321E.79867582@qwest.net> Your sagos, which are cycads [a remnant from the dinosaurs era], not true palms, are poorly located and would do best in a partially shady to full shade situation. They can also scorch simply in a reflective heat situation. I would not attempt to move them now, but instead would erect a shade cloth structure until the heat abates in the fall, when transplanting might be more suitable. You can look at our writeup in the palm publication [AZ 1021] under the ornamentals category at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm The discussion is on the last page. Good luck! Linda Guy, MG bevbob1962@cs.com wrote: > I have two 7 year old sago palms. One is planted in full sun, and the other is planted in early morning sun. The palm leaves are turning yellow and brown. What can the problem be? Thank you for any help. Hate to lose these palms. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:24:11 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:24:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Artemisia Powis or Powys Castle References: <200107040528.f645SdI13020@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43351A.F59DF0F9@qwest.net> It is a hybrid artemisia of uncertain origin and most herb books will contain a discussion of this useful backdrop or border plant, as does the Sunset Western Garden Book. Grown principally for the foliage, it grows here in Phoenix with some supplemental water. [Wormwood and tarragon are other examples of the artemisia family.] A. absinthium [common wormwood] is the probable parent. Although it looks lacy and delicate, it's pretty sturdy and can grow to 3' high by 6' across, though I've not seen them this large in Phoenix. Linda Guy, MG JaKeAndTheHotshots@MSN.com wrote: > I found a plant in New Mexico called the Powis Castle. I cannot find any information regarding this shrub. I do it is not in our zone area. Do you know where I can find information? Or do you know anyting about this shrub? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:39:00 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:39:00 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sago Palms with yellow leaves Message-ID: If you have not been fertilizing them with a special palm fertilizer, that could be your problem. Inadequate irrigation could also be the problem. Check out these websites for info on palm care and irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 15:39:08 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 08:39:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Growing Saguaro [Carnegiea gigantea] References: <200107041323.f64DNrI19322@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B43389C.D8F2218E@qwest.net> There is a chapter on cactus in our online Master Gardener Manual at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ You can use a potting mix that is 1/2 sand/grit/gravel and 1/2 commercial mix. Above all, it needs to be kept well-drained. Always dispose of the water in the container tray. Irrigation is often only necessary in the summer in the wild, so I would suggest only minimal watering in the winter, increased somewhat in the summer. When in doubt, we usually don't water. Saguaros do not get fertilized in the wild; if you feel compelled to do so, apply a diluted mixture sparingly, early in the growing season [spring]. A very good publication is available for purchase [8309] at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Unfortunately, it cannot be viewed online at this time. Another reference is an old addition of our Horticultural Communicator Jul/Aug 1999, page 16. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/hortcom.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG Maricopa County music613@cyburban.com wrote: > I spent a week in Tucson June 25-28 on business > and had the opportunity of seeing the surrounding > country - which, for a New Yorker, was spectacular. > > Anyway, while in Tucson, I purchased two "baby" > Saguaro cacti at the airport (i.e. Bach's Cactus Nursey). > Since I'm back home now, and the two babies are still > in their little plastic pots (sitting on my window in > the living room that gets the morning sun), I > would like to re-plant them into something > more appropriate. > > How can I obtain the correct soil environment > for these plants? Is there some commercial > mixture available in AZ that I could buy > and then have sent to me here? Or are there > reasonable substitutes. Also, what's a reasonable > watering schedule for these plants? > > My thumbs are not green, so to say, so any > help you could provide would be much appreciated. > > If this experiment works, my grandchildren > may have something beautiful to look at! > > Thanks- > > Avrohom Leichtling > > :-) > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 15:52:47 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:52:47 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite trees, transplanting Message-ID: <127.f4c4b2.287495cf@aol.com> Mesquite trees, because of their tap root do not transplant well. Because of the long tap root your chances would be much better to try very small plants. The most favorable time would be in late fall. They will require water at least every other day for the first month. Check out the Master Gardener Manual chapter on Arborculture at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From nlooper@catc.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:49 2001 From: nlooper@catc.net (nlooper@catc.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:01:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041601.f64G1nI01018@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have some plum trees that usually have lots of fruit but it is not fit to eat. They grow to a nice size but as they start to turn red they begin in one spot and it has a worm in it. Every plum is ruined. I have sprayed the trees, blooms, trunks. poured bleach around the feed line in off season, tried home remidies, commercial products to no avail. The trees are 11 years old and I have gotten one year of good fruit from them. Is there anything I can do except cut them down? I also have a year old nectarine tree that has the sap coming out of the side of the tree. Is it already infected? My grape vines have lots of grapes but they are small. The grapes are already getting ripe and the vines seem to be dying and the leaves turning brown and falling off. I guess my garding skills are very bad. Any help you can give me will be much appreciated. From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jul 4 16:01:50 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 09:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vines on stucco References: <20010702161237.8788.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B433DEE.BBF3EC6F@qwest.net> My experience of cat's claw was that when removed, it left pieces of its 'claws' on the masonry but a good stout hosing followed with a stiff brush was enough to remove the traces. If you are interested in vines that either twine or wrap tendrils around anything in their path, you'd be better served if you attached a trellis or similar structure on the surface in question. Options for high sun include queen's wreath, climbing bougainvilleas, trumpet vines, creeping fig [not meant for afternoon sun; also a clinger like cat's claw], certain jasmines and honeysuckles, carolina jessamine and grapes, too. You could conceivably fasten Lady Banks' Rose but it is also very wide; similarly cape plumbago could be trained up. Some of these are deciduous, some evergreen; some risk die back to roots in frost and others are more hardy. Linda Guy, MG BOB RAMSEY wrote: > I am interesed in adding a vine to my stucco house > exterior. I would like it to climb on its own but I > have heard that the attchment of cats claw to the > stucco may damage the stucco when you pull it off for > painting. Is this true and are there other choices for > a high sun exposure exterior? Thank you > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From saxdoc@home.com Wed Jul 4 16:38:03 2001 From: saxdoc@home.com (saxdoc@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:38:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041638.f64Gc3I04254@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a String Acacia tree that has been growing well. However, since the very hot weather set in, there is less growth and a series of brown pods have grown. Is more water needed? Or is it the time of year? From cliddle@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 16:50:12 2001 From: cliddle@az.rmci.net (cliddle@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 09:50:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041650.f64GoCI05419@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Where can I buy potato seed/eyes that will do well here in the valley? I understand the best time to plant is in Oct. I have seen great looking fields of potatoes in the farming area. Thanks for your time. From bbpotts@az.rmci.net Wed Jul 4 18:44:35 2001 From: bbpotts@az.rmci.net (bbpotts@az.rmci.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 11:44:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041844.f64IiYI16147@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have cantalope on vines that are of various sizes and state of developement. Do they have a chance of ripening if I keep them watered? Also should I be feeding them since they have been growing since the first to mid march? From wuerfel@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 19:21:23 2001 From: wuerfel@earthlink.net (wuerfel@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:21:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107041921.f64JLNI19059@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We are looking for plants to go around the west side of our pool. There is a block fence on the other side. The area is in the southwest corner of our yard (our home faces north) therefore, there is quite a bit of sun. The area we want to fill in is from two to four feet wide and about thirty feet long. We do have a salt water system and the plants could be splashed. Thanks for your help! From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:32 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From kateejane@earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 23:38:52 2001 From: kateejane@earthlink.net (kateejane@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 16:38:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107042338.f64NcqI12799@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I am a teacher moving to Tucson, AZ, and need to establish and maintain a class garden with my students. Do you have any suggestions of where we can start? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jul 4 23:43:02 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 19:43:02 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree growth slowed by heat Message-ID: <2b.17b8e5f3.28750406@aol.com> Most plants will show very little growth when the temperature is over 100 degrees. Check out this site on proper irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From jandk23@micron.net Thu Jul 5 00:59:05 2001 From: jandk23@micron.net (jandk23@micron.net) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:59:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050059.f650x5I17970@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Crookneck Squash I have a nice bunch of plants growing that look mighty healthy. But, the squash is growing about 2 or 3 inches (with a nice yellow color) and shriveling up and dying. Any ideas? Kevin From wyshyvanuk@home.com Thu Jul 5 01:08:49 2001 From: wyshyvanuk@home.com (wyshyvanuk@home.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:08:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050108.f6518nI18610@Ag.Arizona.Edu> (2) Jacaranda trees have been in the ground about 6 years. Both have developed a dark, charcoal colored stain on the bark of both the trunk and lower branches. The stain appears to be "carried" down the branches from branch intersections. Although the trees seem healthy otherwise, there is an area on the trunk that shows cracked and peeling bark about 8" by 10". Any hints on what the problem(s) may be? Thanks!! From jhci@aol.com Thu Jul 5 01:25:11 2001 From: jhci@aol.com (jhci@aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 18:25:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200107050125.f651PAI19808@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please send Information on plants that would be acceptable around pools. Thank You From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jul 5 14:11:55 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 07:11:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] School Garden References: <200107042338.f64NcWI12790@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3B4475AB.C75E072E@qwest.net> A great place to start is this website. Go back to the home page at http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ and look at the resources available under the Youth and Community Gardens heading. For basic horticultural information, you can review the listing of publications [use Maricopa County for the smaller urban horticulture listing] as well as the Recommended Reading link. The Index will help you locate a particular topic [pest or other problem], and finally t