From umiller@azdps.com Tue May 1 02:30:11 2001 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:30:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drooping Oleanders Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D1AB.F922E3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I posted the question abut drooping oleanders a while ago and there was some discussion, but nobody seemed to know exactly why oleanders might do this - if they're given adequate water. So I went on the web and found another poor soul somewhere out there who had posed the same question on another gardening group. She said that she was told that the plant might have been in the pot too long at the nursery and was deprived of nitrogen which would have caused the plant to become leggy and droop. Does this make sense? I ended up cutting back the droopy canes and they are now sprouting new growth which will make the plant bushier, I hope, and should actually make it look nicer. But I wonder about the nitrogen story. Ursula Miller ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D1AB.F922E3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I posted the = question abut=20 drooping oleanders a while ago and there was some discussion, but nobody = seemed=20 to know exactly why oleanders might do this - if they're given adequate=20 water. So I went on the web and found another poor soul somewhere = out=20 there who had posed the same question on another gardening group. = She said=20 that she was told that the plant might have been in the pot too long at = the=20 nursery and was deprived of nitrogen which would have caused the plant = to become=20 leggy and droop.

Does this make = sense? =20

I ended up cutting = back the=20 droopy canes and they are now sprouting new growth which will make the = plant=20 bushier, I hope, and should actually make it look nicer. But I = wonder=20 about the nitrogen story.

Ursula Miller

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0D1AB.F922E3C0-- From mangell@skipco.net Tue May 1 13:11:35 2001 From: mangell@skipco.net (mangell@skipco.net) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:11:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105011311.f41DBZa20880@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have two 24" box size multi-trunk "Desert Museum Palo Verdes" planted approx 6 months ago. My puppy has chewed off practically all the beautiful green bark from the ground up to 3 ft on all sides of each of the multi-trunks.. Can these trees be saved? - What can I do with the bare tree trunks ? From s2@AuroraNow.org Tue May 1 14:30:09 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 07:30:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] illiterate rabbits References: <200105011311.f41DBZa20880@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AEEC871.7F6B927D@AuroraNow.org> Hi gang, My illiterate rabbits, who haven't read the list of "rabbit proof" plants, have now knocked down and eaten two of my young (4-5 pads) Santa Rita prickly pear cacti. (I've caught them nibbling red-handed--I hope their little mouths are stuck full of glochids!). (They also ate my verbena, which is also supposedly "rabbit resistant" even though it was sitting right next to some nice juicy grass). I know I can save a few of the pads and replant them, but does anyone know if the base of the plant and the roots will re-sprout? (They broke them about 1" from the ground. Grrrr!). I'm wondering about an effort along the lines of "Literacy Lessons for Lepus") -- Sherryl Stalinski Executive Director Aurora Now Foundation http://www.auroranow.org From dv_boman@prodigy.net Tue May 1 15:30:19 2001 From: dv_boman@prodigy.net (dv_boman@prodigy.net) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:30:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105011530.f41FUJa08759@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Corn tasseling too soon? Our sweet corn has started putting out tassles even though the plants are only 1-2 ft tall. I've noticed that the corn in the near by fields is about the same height but hasn't started tasseling. This same problem occured last year and the ears never did develop to full size. Any suggestions on what we are doing wrong? We are located in South Chandler near Riggs and Cooper and have very sandy soil. Thanks. From BETTOWN@aol.com Tue May 1 17:26:15 2001 From: BETTOWN@aol.com (BETTOWN@aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:26:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105011726.f41HQFa02774@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Dixileta Gardens have a vine that grows on a split rail fence-looks & smells like a honeysuckle. Has black flowers with little yellow inside. Called the store & they said they thought it was a Kinetta from Australia. I have searched garden websites plus Australian Flowers plus search engines and can find nothing on it. Maybe its the wrong name--Dixileta Gardens do not sell it. Thank you in advance for your help. Elizabeth Townley From patsyvip@home.com Tue May 1 19:10:44 2001 From: patsyvip@home.com (patsyvip@home.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:10:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105011910.f41JAia25879@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I recently purchased a boojum tree for the arboretum. Potted, gets morning sun on east side,water about every 7 days, about 5 inches high, nice branch spread.Now that weather is warmer,it doesn't look too happy.Leaves not as green,some a bit yellow. I don't want to loose this beauty. Help! From SundanceY2K@aol.com Tue May 1 21:23:17 2001 From: SundanceY2K@aol.com (SundanceY2K@aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:23:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105012123.f41LNHa21683@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have 3.50 acres of land that I'm trying to landscape myself. Most of the acreage is level (very rocky) and I want to create hills and a more interesting contour. What type of soil would you recommend. Landscapers and others that haul dirt recommend a variety of types. Most of the plants we like seem to require sandy, rocky, & limestone soil. Is there a mixture that would make both plants happy? From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue May 1 21:46:55 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:46:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Landscaping References: <200105012123.f41LNHa21683@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AEF2ECF.4A5ED10B@qwest.net> I would recommend a simpler solution, which I too have used in my yard. I would create washes [what a landscape architect might call a swale] and use the dirt I removed to form the interesting contouring [called berms] you are hoping to achieve. The swales can be strategically placed around trees or other vegetation to catch rainfall and/or roof and downspout runoff. I've seen too many instances where the dirt hauled in was not clean, containing nuisance plants/seeds that cost a fortune to remove after the landscaping was completed. A neighbor two doors down had this happen with the worst possible weed: nutsedge. They were horrified and spent two years getting rid of it, a major battle and expense. If you elect to purchase soil, get a written guarantee about covering this type of imported problem. To do it yourselfl, start with garden hoses to trace the images on your grounds, and spray paint when you feel you like the shapes. [This is not unlike doing a pond.] Then get yourself a bulldozer and go to town! [Our yard was small enough that we dug it ourselves.] A funny anecdote that I just have to relate before closing. I trusted my native AZ husband to understand the general concept of a wash and had him start digging without benefit of the garden hose/spray paint strategy. When I returned from an errand, I had a rectangular lap pool in the front yard! I laughed so hard and of course he was furious. But when I explained to him that the earth is a mother, after all, and we all had curves he got the idea immediately and started to soften and contour all his trenching. I laid the garden hose out for the ones to follow! Linda Guy Master Gardener SundanceY2K@aol.com wrote: > We have 3.50 acres of land that I'm trying to landscape myself. Most of the acreage is level (very rocky) and I want to create hills and a more interesting contour. > > What type of soil would you recommend. Landscapers and others that haul dirt recommend a variety of types. > > Most of the plants we like seem to require sandy, rocky, & limestone soil. Is there a mixture that would make both plants happy? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue May 1 21:57:05 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:57:05 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vine, smells like honeysuckle Message-ID: Elizabeth, I'm not familiar with the name "kinetta" either. could it be one of the honeysuckles, Lonicera periclymenum. It resembles L. japonica, has fragrant flowers that are purple outside and yellow inside.Common name is woodbine. Another possibilty is Thunbergia erecta, related to black-eyed susan vine. It has velvety dark blue flowers with orange or cream throats. Common name is king's mantle. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: BETTOWN@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:26:15 -0700 (MST) > >Dixileta Gardens have a vine that grows on a split rail fence-looks & >smells like a honeysuckle. Has black flowers with little yellow inside. >Called the store & they said they thought it was a Kinetta from Australia. >I have searched garden websites plus Australian Flowers plus search engines >and can find nothing on it. Maybe its the wrong name--Dixileta Gardens do >not sell it. >Thank you in advance for your help. >Elizabeth Townley > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From www.pete.pool@rivcom.net Tue May 1 22:40:33 2001 From: www.pete.pool@rivcom.net (www.pete.pool@rivcom.net) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:40:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105012240.f41MeWa10913@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I planted some hybrid tea roses that was in a petmoss contaner. I cut the sides place them in a 14# plasket pot contaner. I used some potting soil mix I have gotten some good blooms on all my plants, but lately sarting to get some yellow on roses. I think this from over watering, is there better way to prevent this problem. thank you for your input. From gritt1@excite.com Wed May 2 01:55:56 2001 From: gritt1@excite.com (gritt1@excite.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:55:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105020155.f421tua10857@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Are there any flowering ground covers that do well in the Phoenix summers? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 2 03:02:54 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:02:54 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drooping Oleanders Message-ID: Ursula, If the oleanders were root bound when planted and the roots are circling the root ball and you are watering at the drip line and the water is not getting back to the root ball where the roots are, the plant would wilt. Could you have over fertilized the oles, this would cause the plant to wilt but the leaves would show burned edges. Are you watering with pool water? I don't agree with the nitrogen difficiency, if this were true the leaves would be pale green or yellow. Plants become leggy when they have inadequate light or are pruned incorrectly. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 2 03:02:52 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:02:52 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo Verde with bark chewed off Message-ID: <45.5ee6734.2820d2dc@aol.com> If your pup has removed the bark to bare wood over half way round the trunks it is too late to do anything. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 2 03:17:08 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:17:08 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Roses with yellow leaves Message-ID: <8e.14f444b8.2820d634@aol.com> Yellow leaves can be caused by either over or under watering but in this case since you think that the roses have been overwatered I would agree with you. There are some potting mixes that do not drain well enough to satisfy roses, I usually add sand to a potting mix when planting roses in a pot. Before watering I suggest doing the finger test or use a moisture meter. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian From tcarillon@hotmail.com Wed May 2 04:08:45 2001 From: tcarillon@hotmail.com (tcarillon@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:08:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105020408.f4248ja28567@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Hello; I have a large white calla lily I started from a bulb 3 years ago. It has done beautifully except for this year. It is planted in sunny location in well-drained, good garden soil. It is well watered. This year I got very little bloom - only 3 -4 4 lilies (compared to 15 or more last year). The flowers also were smaller than before. The leaves and foilage are very busy and profuse, but started yellowing about 3 weeks ago. Is it too much water (it's same as last year, I think - on automatic drip) - or does it need iron chelate? Or what? From clord@mobl.com Wed May 2 14:52:34 2001 From: clord@mobl.com (clord@mobl.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:52:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105021452.f42EqYa28075@Ag.Arizona.Edu> There is something eating my palo brea. I have not seen any insects but there are horizontal cuts running across the bark, the cut only remove the bark, terminating in at a point which oozes sap. What is eating the tree, and how can it be controlled? From 116central@earthlink.net Wed May 2 15:22:28 2001 From: 116central@earthlink.net (116central@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:22:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105021522.f42FMSa03091@Ag.Arizona.Edu> i hope you can help me with this ongoing problem of huge toads in my "walled" in backyard..i have a pool and was wondering if it is the water that they are attracted to.is there anything that i can use to repel these critters that would not be harmful to my dog?? i'm desperate! needless to say that this is a seasonal problem but nevertheless a most annoying one. thanks in advance.m/c From envconnections@yahoo.com Wed May 2 19:28:35 2001 From: envconnections@yahoo.com (linda levitt) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] gourd goop Message-ID: <20010502192835.5622.qmail@web1901.mail.yahoo.com> Around our gourd garden this am we found a pile of doughy-looking white goop bubbling around the base of the plant? any ideas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed May 2 21:35:58 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:35:58 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Toads Message-ID: The toads probably are attracted to the water in your yard. Is it possible that you have openings in your wall that the toads can squeeze through? Can you seal off these avenues and prevent entry? I suppose it is also possible that the toads are living permanently in your yard. Spadefoot toads are tough. They spend two months of wet weather feeding, calling, mating and egg-laying. Then they dig into the ground with the 'spade' on the hind legs. They spend the next ten months encased in dried mud until wet weather returns. Toads are efficient insect eaters. The Sonoran desert toads do exude a poison when grabbed by a dog, so you probably need to find out what kind of toad you have -- Sonoran (hoot like a boat whistle), spadefoot (short trills or bleats) or red-spotted (sounds like a cricket). These really are facsinating animals. Is it possible to set up a sinkhole outside your wall, then catch and release the toads out there? Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: 116central@earthlink.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:22:28 -0700 (MST) > >i hope you can help me with this ongoing problem of huge toads in my >"walled" in backyard..i have a pool and was wondering if it is the water >that they are attracted to.is there anything that i can use to repel these >critters that would not be harmful to my dog?? i'm desperate! needless to >say that this is a seasonal problem but nevertheless a most annoying one. >thanks in advance.m/c > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed May 2 21:45:09 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:45:09 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] gourd goop, slime mold Message-ID: This sounds like slime mold, a fungus that lives in the soil.(the Myxomycetes or Mycetozoa) http://www.nps.gov/olym/microfauna/slimemold.htm "Slime molds possess both animal and plant like characteristics. They form three main groups, none of which are closely related. Most of their lives are spent as microscopic amoebas, some with flagella, roaming independently through the forest feeding on organic matter, bacteria, and other microscopic morsels. During food shortages, slime molds swarm and aggregate into an enormous single cell." http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/mushroom/slimemold/slimemold.htm "Slime molds belong to a class of fungi, the Myxomycetes, that is characterized by the production of relatively large, single-celled, multinucleate bodies called plasmodia (singular = plasmodium). Plasmodia are the feeding stages of slime molds, and they are frequently seen on lawns, small plants, mulch, and decaying wood in late summer. Slime molds are not plant parasites, but they may injure plants by covering and shading them." Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: linda levitt >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] gourd goop >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT) > >Around our gourd garden this am we found a pile of >doughy-looking white goop bubbling around the base of >the plant? any ideas > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed May 2 21:52:37 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 21:52:37 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Palo brea, horizontal cuts Message-ID: Last summer, we saw something similar on palo verde. We suspected it was caused by overwatering -- the natural horizontal banding on the trunk expanded and split from too much water. However, we never found out for certain. I would be very interested in finding out what is happening with your trees. Do you see any evidence at all of insects or bird damage (sapsuckers make a horizontal band of evenly spaced holes, for example). Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: clord@mobl.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:52:34 -0700 (MST) > >There is something eating my palo brea. I have not seen any insects but >there are horizontal cuts running across the bark, the cut only remove the >bark, terminating in at a point which oozes sap. > >What is eating the tree, and how can it be controlled? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed May 2 22:03:40 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:03:40 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Groundcover plants, flowering Message-ID: Try going to: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm and click on: AZ1110 Ground Covers for Arizona Landscapes Several are listed and will give you some ideas. Myoporum is used a lot in commercial areas in Tucson. Verbenas and trailing lantanas generally do well. There are many other ground covers to choose from. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: gritt1@excite.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:55:56 -0700 (MST) > >Are there any flowering ground covers that do well in the Phoenix summers? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Wed May 2 22:06:37 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:06:37 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Boojum Message-ID: Boojums are winter growers. Is it just going into summer dormancy? I would check with the arboretum for more information. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: patsyvip@home.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:10:44 -0700 (MST) > >I recently purchased a boojum tree for the arboretum. Potted, gets morning >sun on east side,water about every 7 days, about 5 inches high, nice branch >spread.Now that weather is warmer,it doesn't look too happy.Leaves not as >green,some a bit yellow. I don't want to loose this beauty. Help! > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From ej10817@goodnet.com Thu May 3 01:17:27 2001 From: ej10817@goodnet.com (Pat) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:17:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] calla lily Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010502181122.00a99350@mail.winstarmail.com> --=====================_43698516==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Recently, I bought a while calla lily in a pot and was surprised to read on the care instructions that it is a bog plant. To test this out, I put it on a ledge in my pond and it is doing well, blooming almost constantly. I believe the Sunset Western Gardening Book also give the info that it is a bog plant so the person having a problem with her calla might want to try more water. Pat Pat Kolb, Contributing Editor, Low Desert Gardening, Suite 101 http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/low_desert_gardening --=====================_43698516==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

	Recently, I bought a while calla lily in a pot and was surprised to read on the care instructions that it is a bog plant. To test this out, I put it on a ledge in my pond and it is doing well, blooming almost constantly. I believe the Sunset Western Gardening Book also give the info that it is a bog plant so the person having a problem with her calla might want to try more water. Pat

Pat Kolb, Contributing Editor, Low Desert Gardening, Suite 101
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--=====================_43698516==_.ALT-- From artyaf@aol.com Thu May 3 02:55:35 2001 From: artyaf@aol.com (artyaf@aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:55:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105030255.f432tZa00394@Ag.Arizona.Edu> While reading the article in todays Garden section of the Republic (5/02/01) in the gardeners to do list relative to the focus on lawns. ! how do you obtain 1/2 lb of actual nitrogen per 1000 sq ft or yet 6 oz of iron. The one inch of water per the usual tuna can method! Iguess I need help in 1/2 pound of nitrogen which is a gas? 6 oz of iron may be also hard to come buy in the powder state. How about recomending a commercial fertilizer that would fill the bill? Thanks for you help and understanding From ebenware@juno.com Thu May 3 05:14:55 2001 From: ebenware@juno.com (Edna JK Benware) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:14:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Nitrogen for Grass Message-ID: <20010502.221702.-165121.13.ebenware@juno.com> - The nitrogen for your lawn is not a gas. - All fertilizers have as a standard three numbers, written on the bag. Example: 20-5-5 - The first number is always the nitrogen content in percent of total product. - 20 in this example indicates 20% is nitrogen. - In order to have dispersed 1 pound of nitrogen, you need to use 5 pounds. - For the "1/2 lb per 1000 sq feet" then you would need to use 2.5 lbs. - For recommendations on a specific fertilizer, visit your favorite nursery. Considering the Cooperative Extension program provides these recommendations to the newspaper, recommending one specific product is prohibited as it would be considered as government endorsement of the product over others, and this is not the case. Nitrogen is Nitrogen. - As for the iron, it is known that chelated iron is available more quickly to plants due to the nature of the soils here; but iron may also be a micronutrient in your fertilizer, which if used consistently, is an acceptable source provided your lawn is not already showing signs of iron deficiency. Again, your nursery employees are able to answer these questions for you. Edna Benware Maricopa County Master Gardener On Wed, 2 May 2001 19:55:35 -0700 (MST) artyaf@aol.com writes: > While reading the article in todays Garden section of the Republic > (5/02/01) in the gardeners to do list relative to the focus on > lawns. > ! how do you obtain 1/2 lb of actual nitrogen per 1000 sq ft > > or yet 6 oz of iron. > The one inch of water per the usual tuna can method! > > Iguess I need help in 1/2 pound of nitrogen which is a gas? > 6 oz of iron may be also hard to come buy in the powder state. > > How about recomending a commercial fertilizer that would fill the > bill? > > Thanks for you help and understanding > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From stuelst@earthlink.net Thu May 3 05:40:42 2001 From: stuelst@earthlink.net (stuelst@earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:40:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105030540.f435ega20287@Ag.Arizona.Edu> how do i keep squirrels out of our apricot tree as the fruit ripens? From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu May 3 19:26:22 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 19:26:22 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: shade vs sun Message-ID: Sun until 10 a.m. is partial shade. Many beautiful plants could grow here. Do you want natives? Do you want to grow annual flowers? Perennial flowers? shrubs? The pool area would be considered full sun. Choose plants that can handle lots of sun such as bouggainvillea. Let me know more about what you want to grow and I can give you some other suggestions. Linda Drew Master Gardener > > From: AINAELGA@aol.com > > Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:55:28 EDT > > Subject: shade vs sun > > To: ceweb@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 > > > > > > HI..If my area that I am planting get morning sun...till about 10AM and >then > > in shade the rest of the day (my front flower box up against the house), >can > > that be considered SHADE for lighting? Also, by my pool, I have a raised > > planter, which gets full sun until about 4PM...then shade..how would >you > > classify that area...full sun, or sun/shade??? > > Please feel free to give me examples of colorful plants for both >areas... > > Thanks aina _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From archsoul@qwest.net Thu May 3 21:32:35 2001 From: archsoul@qwest.net (archsoul@qwest.net) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:32:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105032132.f43LWZW19852@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Please help us identify a flying insect we saw in our yard today. It looked like a huge wasp. It had a velvety, metallic blue body with red wings. Please identify it and let us know if it is dangerous and if we should eliminate it from our yard. From cindyngates@msn.com Thu May 3 22:26:18 2001 From: cindyngates@msn.com (cindyngates@msn.com) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:26:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105032226.f43MQGW29447@Ag.Arizona.Edu> my vegetables are blooming like crazy (zuks, tomatoes,squash,peppers) but none are setting to fruit. What could be going wrong. From sjbass@qwest.net Thu May 3 22:31:49 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:31:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tarantula Hawk Wasp References: <200105032132.f43LWZW19852@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AF1DC55.ADCB285F@qwest.net> If you go to the following link http://www.nps.gov/moja/mojaantw.htm You will see a picture and description of a tarantula hawk wasp. If this fits your insect's description, they prey on trap door spiders and tarantulas as their name suggests. They are nectar feeders. They are also the state insect of New Mexico (just a little tidbit). I don't believe they are a danger to you. Can anyone else provide more information? Sue Bass Master Gardener archsoul@qwest.net wrote: > Please help us identify a flying insect we saw in our yard today. It looked like a huge wasp. It had a velvety, metallic blue body with red wings. Please identify it and let us know if it is dangerous and if we should eliminate it from our yard. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From HelensBaby@aol.com Thu May 3 22:32:44 2001 From: HelensBaby@aol.com (HelensBaby@aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:32:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105032232.f43MWiW01336@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our problem is with Bermuda grass. There is an area in our front yard that is a real eyesore. The former owners of the house put an enormous amount of river rock in this space and evidently didn't put any plastic down on the ground first. The result is a major problem with Bermuda grass. We have used gallons of Round Up and yet the grass just keeps coming. In fact, it seems worse now than when we started treatment. We are beginning to think the only way to solve the problem is to take out all the rock (a major undertaking) and then physically remove the grass and put down a plastic sheet and go from there. Do you have any other way we can solve this problem? We are readying the property for sale and are trying to keep costs at a minimum. From s2@AuroraNow.org Thu May 3 22:41:38 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:41:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tarantula Hawk Wasp References: <200105032132.f43LWZW19852@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3AF1DC55.ADCB285F@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3AF1DEA2.5C11B769@AuroraNow.org> > I don't believe they are a danger to you. Can anyone else provide more information? That's what it sounds like to me, too. We used to get oodles of 'em when we lived in the Foothills. They're intimidating, but harmless (unless of course, you're a spider) at least from our experience. (My son once went to battle with one, swiping away at it trying to "save" his favorite young tarantula in our yard. It never gave any indication that it had any interest in him, even being antagonized). Sherryl From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 4 02:59:12 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 02:59:12 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Squirrels Message-ID: You could try putting a wire fence around the tree and top it with metal flashing. This might be effective in keeping the squirrels out of the tree. It won't work longterm because the squirrels will eventually burrow under the wire. Another solution might be to install a low voltage electric fence around the tree to discourage climbing. Squirrels are pretty clever and good problem solvers, so you may have to adjust tactics over time. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: stuelst@earthlink.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:40:42 -0700 (MST) > >how do i keep squirrels out of our apricot tree as the fruit ripens? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 4 03:16:11 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 03:16:11 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] vegetables not setting fruit Message-ID: Cindy, Perhaps the flowers are not being pollinated. Have you seen any bees? You may need to hand poolinate the squashes. Tomatoes are wind pollinated. I know they won't set fruit when temps are too high, but I don't think it has been that hot yet. Stumped as to what could be wrong, but maybe others have an idea. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: cindyngates@msn.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:26:18 -0700 (MST) > >my vegetables are blooming like crazy (zuks, tomatoes,squash,peppers) but >none are setting to fruit. What could be going wrong. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 4 03:26:07 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 03:26:07 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] bermuda grass, how to kill Message-ID: Roundup should kill the bermuda. The trick is that the bermuda must be actively growing for Roundup to be effective. Since the bermuda grass is just coming out of dormancy now, that may explain why Roundup isn't working. You may need to water the bermuda and get it growing vigorously, then apply Roundup according to label direction. Applying more than recommended won't work. You want the grass to keep growing vigorously for 7-14 days to give the agent time to translocate into the roots and then kill the root. You will need to keep watering and encouraging the grass. Apply a second application of Roundup two weeks after the first and again keep the grass growing for 7-14 days. This should clear most of the bermuda grass. Please resist the urge to use a quick-kill like Triox. Plastic should not be necessary under the river rock. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: HelensBaby@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:32:44 -0700 (MST) > >Our problem is with Bermuda grass. There is an area in our front yard that >is a real eyesore. The former owners of the house put an enormous amount >of river rock in this space and evidently didn't put any plastic down on >the ground first. The result is a major problem with Bermuda grass. We >have used gallons of Round Up and yet the grass just keeps coming. In >fact, it seems worse now than when we started treatment. We are beginning >to think the only way to solve the problem is to take out all the rock (a >major undertaking) and then physically remove the grass and put down a >plastic sheet and go from there. Do you have any other way we can solve >this problem? We are readying the property for sale and are trying to keep >costs at a minimum. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From clydic@goodnet.com Fri May 4 06:11:49 2001 From: clydic@goodnet.com (Carol Lydic) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:11:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200105032132.f43LWZW19852@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: Hello; I'm a Gila County Master Gardener who lives out in the boonies. We had a visit from the Tarantula Hawk Wasp; it wasn't agressive with us; however, one very pretty tarantula became lunch while we watched the bazaar scene. I believe they are not harmful to humans; I recall reading in our "bug book," after watching it for 30 minutes as it worked and worked and worked to get that large spider into the tunnel where it promptly laid an egg and few away. It took only minutes to disable the spider. -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu]On Behalf Of archsoul@qwest.net Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:33 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Please help us identify a flying insect we saw in our yard today. It looked like a huge wasp. It had a velvety, metallic blue body with red wings. Please identify it and let us know if it is dangerous and if we should eliminate it from our yard. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Nonelson@aol.com Fri May 4 13:34:43 2001 From: Nonelson@aol.com (Nonelson@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:34:43 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tomatoes Message-ID: --part1_d0.1521d343.282409f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have planted Early Girl tomatoes several months ago and have been doing fine up to now. The leaves have brown spots and the smaller fruit have areas where the flesh of the tomato is missing and looks like it has been eaten. What are possible reasons and cures. 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where the flesh of the tomato is missing and looks like it has been eaten.
What are possible reasons and cures.
Thank you --part1_d0.1521d343.282409f3_boundary-- From glotoni@aol.com Fri May 4 14:13:09 2001 From: glotoni@aol.com (glotoni@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:13:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105041413.f44ED9W11375@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I would like to know, what is the recomended, water schedule, for a timer on the sprinkling system. I have 3 valves, one for grass, trees, and shurbs. I have contacted the water dept. but they sent me a card, that I could not understand. Any help you can give me, would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri May 4 18:06:10 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:06:10 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Irrigation Message-ID: The Master Gardener Manual chapter on irrigation should answer most of your questions and is on line at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri May 4 18:08:55 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:08:55 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Watering plants during summer Message-ID: <87.a97c3e2.28244a37@aol.com> The Master Gardener Manual chapter on irrigation should answer most of your questions and is on line at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RkBetu@aol.com Fri May 4 18:22:12 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:22:12 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailanthus trees Message-ID: I have two ailanthus trees that I planted in 1980. One is doing great, the other seems to be dying. Beginning about 3 yrs ago,the leaves on both were much smaller and smaller limbs died. I assumed it was the drought and began a watering schedule (though previously these trees did fine on normal rainfall,which here is about 10").This winter I pruned the top 25% off the sick tree. It has leafed out only on the lower half. What leaves it has seem healthy. Only symptom it had was leaf drop. The upper limbs are completely dead. Since '80, I have had more than 2 dozen ailanthus volunteers sprout. Last year I lost several, mostly those 5 to 10 years old. On some, there are deep bark splits, vertical, healed over. A couple of other healthy trees also have these splits. I would really love to save the oldest tree. I think the prolonged drought in this area may have been the cause, though last yr I would leave the sprinkler on overnight about every 3 weeks. Any light on what is wrong? I live half way between Sun City and Wickenburg. Most of the trees are at least 8' apart. Thank you, Rock Betu From mar@Ag.Arizona.Edu Fri May 4 17:49:28 2001 From: mar@Ag.Arizona.Edu (Michael Rose) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:49:28 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: Everbloom roses Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010504114902.00ace3d0@ag.arizona.edu> Maybe someone from this list can help? >From: Scherette1@aol.com >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:28:48 EDT >Subject: Everbloom roses >To: lab@Ag.Arizona.Edu >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 > >Can you please tell me where I can purchase everbloom roses (either net or >800#) for a residence in Florida? > >Thank you, >Mike -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Michael A. Rose System Administrator Ag Networking Lab University of Arizona (520) 621-2489 mar@ag.arizona.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 4 19:37:24 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 19:37:24 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Everbloom roses Message-ID: Please check with the Cooperative Extension Office in your Florida county. They will have the best information about which roses will do best in your location in Florida. Use a search engine and search for everbloom rose to find some resources. (I used google.com and got 56 hits). Linda Drew Master Gardener >>From: Scherette1@aol.com >>Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:28:48 EDT >>Subject: Everbloom roses >>To: lab@Ag.Arizona.Edu >>X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 >> >>Can you please tell me where I can purchase everbloom roses (either net or >>800#) for a residence in Florida? >> >>Thank you, >>Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Krulich@aol.com Fri May 4 19:56:46 2001 From: Krulich@aol.com (Krulich@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:56:46 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question: Watering large trees Message-ID: <42.14481ba0.2824637e@aol.com> I have a very large aleppo pine with a 35' + diameter canopy. I've been told that I need to water it at least 3' deep and approximately 5' out from the drip line to 5 - 10' in from the drip line. Now I tried watering the tree 5' in and 5' out from the drip line and it's using a ridiculous amount of water to get down at least 3'. I have only watered about 2/3 around the drip line and it's used 2000 gallons of water so far! Is it really necessary to give it that much water? How often does a tree that large need to be watered? The last time I watered it was Nov' 2000. Also, why do the trees in the city do so well even when most of the root zone is covered with pavement? I see these huge (and I mean HUGE) trees that appear to be doing so well, and then I see that they only have about 100 sq. ft. (or less!) of uncovered ground. I can't figure it out. Thanks, Tom From crollkenneth@hotmail.com Fri May 4 22:35:17 2001 From: crollkenneth@hotmail.com (crollkenneth@hotmail.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:35:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105042235.f44MZHW11070@Ag.Arizona.Edu> when planting either seeds or plants, what do i have to do or add to the soil before i get started? i'd like to plant mostly vegatables(tomatoes,zucchini,summer squash,cucumbers,peas,ect.)i'm recently "transplanted" from ny.& am not familiar with desert gardening...i need HELP!! any other tips i should know would be appreciated. thank you! From gizmoaz@home.com Fri May 4 23:00:34 2001 From: gizmoaz@home.com (GizmoAZ) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fwd: Everbloom roses References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010504114902.00ace3d0@ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3AF33492.628C3ECD@home.com> Is this a name brand rose, or the name of a rose? There are several roses named "Everbloom ....". Can the person requesting this information, give us some more information on the rose, where they saw it at, etc.? ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://members.home.net/gizmoaz/~gizmoaz.htm Over 155 Rose Bushes Planted! 87 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Michael Rose wrote: > Maybe someone from this list can help? > > >From: Scherette1@aol.com > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:28:48 EDT > >Subject: Everbloom roses > >To: lab@Ag.Arizona.Edu > >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 > > > >Can you please tell me where I can purchase everbloom roses (either net or > >800#) for a residence in Florida? > > > >Thank you, > >Mike > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Michael A. Rose > System Administrator > Ag Networking Lab > University of Arizona > (520) 621-2489 > mar@ag.arizona.edu > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From accordino@qwest.net Fri May 4 23:12:22 2001 From: accordino@qwest.net (accordino@qwest.net) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:12:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105042312.f44NCMW17168@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can you recommend a good shade tree for my Northwest Phoenix yard? It will be on the south side of the house (lots of sun in the summer). Two fruit trees in this area, an apricot and a plum, have both died after 3 years. Thanks From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 4 23:22:20 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:22:20 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] vegetable garden, soil Message-ID: Arizona soils are typically alkaline (high pH) with low organic matter. These two factors can make vegetable gardening a challenge in Arizona. Composted manures and worm castings are good additions to add organic material and help lower the alkalinity. Your local Extension Office will have brochures to help, including "Ten Steps to a Successful Vegetable Garden". the book, "Desert Gardening for Beginners: How to Grow Vegetables, Flowers and Herbs in an Arid Climate" by Cathy Cromell, Linda Guy and Lucy Bradley is an excellent introduction. It is available at: The book is available at bookstores (ISBN 0-9651987-2-3). It can also be purchased at the Maricopa County Extension Office, the three Master Gardener satellite offices , or through the mail. Cost is $7.95, plus $2.00 shipping. Make checks payable to University of Arizona and mail to Arizona Master Gardener Press, 4341 E. Broadway Road, Box 192, Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: crollkenneth@hotmail.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:35:17 -0700 (MST) > >when planting either seeds or plants, what do i have to do or add to the >soil before i get started? i'd like to plant mostly >vegatables(tomatoes,zucchini,summer squash,cucumbers,peas,ect.)i'm recently >"transplanted" from ny.& am not familiar with desert gardening...i need >HELP!! any other tips i should know would be appreciated. thank you! > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From sjbass@qwest.net Fri May 4 23:33:36 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:33:36 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vegetable Gardening References: <200105042235.f44MZHW11070@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AF33C50.B476BFBD@qwest.net> In addition to Linda's response, two other very good sources of information are the Master Gardener Manual, which you can view on line via the following link: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/ Also, the Cooperative Extension's web site: http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ The Timely Tips section offers month by month suggestions of what to do, what not to do, things to watch for, what to plant, etc. Very informative. Take your time perusing this site. It is loaded with great info. And welcome to the desert! Sue Bass Master Gardener crollkenneth@hotmail.com wrote: > when planting either seeds or plants, what do i have to do or add to the soil before i get started? i'd like to plant mostly vegatables(tomatoes,zucchini,summer squash,cucumbers,peas,ect.)i'm recently "transplanted" from ny.& am not familiar with desert gardening...i need HELP!! any other tips i should know would be appreciated. thank you! > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri May 4 23:40:18 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:40:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Euphorbia trigona References: <001401c0b573$616d6680$f36ad3c6@9g9u8> Message-ID: <3AF33DE2.F579863@qwest.net> --------------FDEBBA33F89FDF475F550B1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was personally interested in your query because I have a newly purchased [fall DBG plant sale], good-sized specimen that was listing in the pot when I purchased it. Couldn't resist it, particularly since it was the last one available for sale, so against my better judgement, I bought it. So I decided to call the DBG hotline, only to speak with someone who had just killed hers! Talk about getting some great advice from not so master gardeners! Here's what we suggest. No direct sun, it burns on the exposed side. Susceptible to frost. Do not overwater [the person at the DBG thinks hers, planted outdoors, succumbed to a combination of cooler winter temps and a wetter period than normal. The plant was under a roofline and simply got soaked.] Do not overwater these babies and make sure they have quick draining soil meaning a substantial portion of pumice or grit. Don't water in winter while dormant. Use diluted fertilizer starting now when growing season is upon us, and new leaves are being set. When in doubt, do NOT water Mine has rotted from watering once every 6-8 weeks this winter. I am taking the pieces, making fresh cuts, and trying to root them in sand, based on my source's input. Be careful because the milky sap is an irritant to many people's skin. The source at the DBG chuckled when she opened her ultimate book on euphorbias and read something along the lines of 'everyone wants a magic formula for watering euphorbias.' Good luck, and sorry it took so long for me to track this down for you. I just always seem to be with a client during the one hour per week day when the DBG takes calls from the public! Linda Guy, Master Gardener June_Harris wrote: > Can you help me find out more on how to care for and propogate my > euphorbia trigona? Any help or direction to help would be very much > appreciated. June HarrisJune_Harris@MSN.com --------------FDEBBA33F89FDF475F550B1F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was personally interested in your query because I have a newly purchased [fall DBG plant sale], good-sized specimen that was listing in the pot when I purchased it. Couldn't resist it, particularly since it was the last one available for sale, so against my better judgement, I bought it.

So I decided to call the DBG hotline, only to speak with someone who had just killed hers! Talk about getting some great advice from not so master gardeners!

Here's what we suggest. No direct sun, it burns on the exposed side. Susceptible to frost. Do not overwater [the person at the DBG thinks hers, planted outdoors, succumbed to a combination of cooler winter temps and a wetter period than normal. The plant was under a roofline and simply got soaked.]

Do not overwater these babies and make sure they have quick draining soil meaning a substantial portion of pumice or grit. Don't water in winter while dormant. Use diluted fertilizer starting now when growing season is upon us, and new leaves are being set. When in doubt, do NOT water

Mine has rotted from watering once every 6-8 weeks this winter. I am taking the pieces, making fresh cuts, and trying to root them in sand, based on my source's input. Be careful because the milky sap is an irritant to many people's skin.

The source at the DBG chuckled when she opened her ultimate book on euphorbias and read something along the lines of 'everyone wants a magic formula for watering euphorbias.'

Good luck, and sorry it took so long for me to track this down for you. I just always seem to be with a client during the one hour per week day when the DBG takes calls from the public!

Linda Guy,
Master Gardener

June_Harris wrote:

Can you help me find out more on how to care for and propogate my euphorbia trigona? Any help or direction to help would be very much appreciated. June HarrisJune_Harris@MSN.com

--------------FDEBBA33F89FDF475F550B1F-- From demellp@swlaw.com Sat May 5 01:58:13 2001 From: demellp@swlaw.com (demellp@swlaw.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:58:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105050158.f451wDW05919@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have an almond tree - how do I know when to harvest the almonds? Thanks- From GrdnrnAZ@aol.com Sat May 5 03:22:08 2001 From: GrdnrnAZ@aol.com (GrdnrnAZ@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:22:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105050322.f453M8W15056@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have often wondered if dry granular fertilizer such as citrus fertilizer could be diluted in water before application. I ask this because I own several citrus trees in Tucson with chipped bark mulch under them. Pulling back all the mulch around them would take quite a while and would not result in an even distribution of fertilizer. If I could dilute the fertilizer in water and drench the soil then water it in would that work. It seems to me that the tree would take it up faster and it would be a more even distribution. Any thoughts? max From southpawaz@home.com Sat May 5 10:17:57 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 03:17:57 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question: Where to buy pumice? Message-ID: <3AF3D355.1BC55C88@home.com> Hi all, Looking for a retail source of pumice somewhere in the Phoenix area, N. Scottsdale preferred but anywhere is okay. -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com From lindaguy@qwest.net Sat May 5 16:25:24 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 09:25:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Where to buy pumice? References: <3AF3D355.1BC55C88@home.com> Message-ID: <3AF42974.E8D52959@qwest.net> I purchase mine from Bakers Nursery in the Arcadia area of Phoenix [40th Street and Indian School]. You could call Tufflite and see who their retailers are. Linda Guy, MG Bobby wrote: > Hi all, > > Looking for a retail source of pumice somewhere in the Phoenix area, N. > Scottsdale preferred but anywhere is okay. > > -- > Bobby > southpawaz@home.com > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Sat May 5 16:37:23 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 09:37:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cross-country Plant Transport References: <200104241330.f3ODUIu08879@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AF42C43.F0ED758F@qwest.net> I've traveled cross country with some of my plants and have had about a 40% loss rate. Have you asked your favorite local nursery about how to mail plants this size? Linda Guy, MG Irenehope@aol.com wrote: > We'll be moving to the Phoenix area @ Aug/Sept. I want to bring my plumeria with me. We' ve grown it from a tiny sticl. It's now @ 6 ft tall, and last year the top split to 3 brances. It's in a pot. > Can you tell me the best way to bring it. > Among my options are; shipping with my furniture, sending via U S Post or UPS, carrying it with us in the car, some how, as we drive across country from Connecticut. If you can think of any other options, please let me know. > Thank you, > Irene > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Sat May 5 16:59:41 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 09:59:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Watering large trees References: <42.14481ba0.2824637e@aol.com> Message-ID: <3AF4317D.AA86352E@qwest.net> Many of these huge trees in my Arcadia neighborhood of east Phoenix are in yards that receive biweekly flood irrigation. The one in my front yard does not. I water it maybe 3x during the summer with the hose over a 24 hour period to stave Aleppo Pine Blight which is thought to be caused by drought. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/cultural/aleppo.htm But these are drought-tolerant trees originally from the deserts of the Middle East. I believe, and Mary Irish writes as much in her book Gardening in the Desert, that a cautious hand in the use of water will keep the tree at a more manageable size in a large home yard setting. Linda Guy, MG Krulich@aol.com wrote: > I have a very large aleppo pine with a 35' + diameter canopy. I've been told > that I need to water it at least 3' deep and approximately 5' out from the > drip line to 5 - 10' in from the drip line. > > Now I tried watering the tree 5' in and 5' out from the drip line and it's > using a ridiculous amount of water to get down at least 3'. I have only > watered about 2/3 around the drip line and it's used 2000 gallons of water so > far! Is it really necessary to give it that much water? How often does a > tree that large need to be watered? The last time I watered it was Nov' 2000. > > Also, why do the trees in the city do so well even when most of the root zone > is covered with pavement? I see these huge (and I mean HUGE) trees that > appear to be doing so well, and then I see that they only have about 100 sq. > ft. (or less!) of uncovered ground. I can't figure it out. > > Thanks, > Tom > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lxl62313@qwest.net Sat May 5 17:03:07 2001 From: lxl62313@qwest.net (lxl62313@qwest.net) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:03:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105051703.f45H32W11557@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We need someone who will diagnose and treat a 12' tall saguaro which suddenly has an 8" vertical split near bottom, and is leaning precariously towards that direction in the last two weeks. No material is oozing from the split. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sat May 5 20:27:11 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:27:11 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Applying fertilizer disolved in water to citrus trees Message-ID: As long as you dilute the fertilizer water mix enough so that you do not burn the roots you should be ok. I would not make the mix any stronger than 1/2 oz. of fertilizer per gallon of water. This will be quite labor intensive unless you use a syphon in a concentrated solution. Most nurseries sell a syphon for this purpose. I use one for fertilizing my roses frequently. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From jazznme4ak@aol.com Sat May 5 20:58:20 2001 From: jazznme4ak@aol.com (jazznme4ak@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:58:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105052058.f45KwKW02716@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a young Mesquite tree in my front yard and would like to know if staking is a good idea. The tree is about 15-18 ft tall. I have been in the house only two years so I don't know its age. I had staked it when I moved in and it has grown considerably with my watering and fertilizers so I am wondering if it is ok to remove the stakes at this point. thank you for your help. I could not find info in the books I have. From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sat May 5 21:30:03 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:30:03 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Saguaro leaning precariously Message-ID: <3e.b3b686a.2825cadb@aol.com> If your saguaro is leaning precariously then it is too late to save it. I would suggest that you have someone who is qualified remove it soon before it falls and injures someone or something. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From kctreedoctor@hotmail.com Sat May 5 23:51:46 2001 From: kctreedoctor@hotmail.com (kctreedoctor@hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:51:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105052351.f45NpkW16784@Ag.Arizona.Edu> A mature grapefruit tree has several small breaks in the bark and a golden substance is oozing out and crystalizing....what causes this. It is only on the south side of the tree, it's not sunburn damage. Could it be insect problems? From choate@primnet.com Sun May 6 02:16:13 2001 From: choate@primnet.com (choate@primnet.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:16:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105060216.f462GCW26433@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I would like to start a veg. garden. The spot that I have chosen is an established lawn area. The size of the garden I would like to start would be 6X8 area. My question is what is the best way to start? Would it be better to dig up the lawn area or could I build a 2ft high incloser and just simply put it over the lawn and not have a problem latter on with the grass growing up threw the 2ft thick layer of soil? will I always have a problem with the grass no mater what I do? From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun May 6 02:19:28 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:19:28 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite tree, removing stakes Message-ID: <40.b2c5fa0.28260eb0@aol.com> It is time to remove the stakes from your Mesquite tree, hopefully you have deep watered the tree to encourage the roots to go deep so that the tree won't blow down. There is great information about tree care at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun May 6 02:29:10 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:29:10 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gummosis Message-ID: <9d.14e427ce.282610f6@aol.com> What you are seeing on your grapefruit tree is called Gummosis. Unfortunately there is no treatment available. The tree may apear unhealthy for a time but seldom die. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From drgarnett@msn.com Sun May 6 23:58:22 2001 From: drgarnett@msn.com (Donald Garnett) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:58:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] saguaro rescue Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0D64D.C2744700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a very large saguaro in our neighborhood in NW =20 Tucson that is leaning over quite heavily, and looks like it is in danger of falling over - a hazardous situation since it is on a street corner. 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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C0D64D.C2744700-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Sun May 6 23:36:59 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:36:59 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailanthus trees dying Message-ID: <4c.14c5e962.28273a1b@aol.com> Rock, I would agree with your accessment that the prolonged drought had a lot to do with the death of your trees. The deep watering should have helped unless you waited too long to water. My information says that they can exist on 10 inches of annual rainfall, however we do not have that here in Maricopa County. My suggestion would be to deep water monthly during the summer. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Mon May 7 00:56:51 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 00:56:51 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] saguaro rescue Message-ID: Don, You will need to find out who owns the saguaro. Is it on City right of way? If you think it is, call Tucson Street and TRaffic Maintenance Division at 791-3191 or 791-4144 after hours. If it is on private property, the owners need to contact a saguaro salvage/relocation company such as: Old Pueblo Cactus 1802 E. Roger Road Tucson, AZ 85719 520.327.2679 mobile: 520.906.0811 Saguaro relocation and removal specialist Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Donald Garnett" >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] saguaro rescue >Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:58:22 -0700 > > >There is a very large saguaro in our neighborhood in NW >Tucson that is leaning over quite heavily, and looks like it >is in danger of falling over - a hazardous situation since >it is on a street corner. Is there someone in Tucson to >call for saguaro rescue in such a situation? > > Don Garnett

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_________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From j.wildenbud@worldnet.att.net Mon May 7 19:09:38 2001 From: j.wildenbud@worldnet.att.net (j.wildenbud@worldnet.att.net) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:09:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105071909.f47J9cb27973@Ag.Arizona.Edu> How do I plant sweet potatoes,special tips,fertilizer etc. Thanks June From sjbass@qwest.net Mon May 7 19:36:56 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 12:36:56 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sweet Potatoes References: <200105071909.f47J9cb27973@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AF6F958.E0C961D@qwest.net> --------------2A00AD3EE22798162C569A13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you go to our archives at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm and type in sweet potatoes in the search area, you will find information from recent discussions on this topic. If you've never searched our archives, there is a wealth of information out there on all sorts of gardening topics. Sue Bass * Master Gardener j.wildenbud@worldnet.att.net wrote: > How do I plant sweet potatoes,special tips,fertilizer etc. Thanks June > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener --------------2A00AD3EE22798162C569A13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you go to our archives at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm
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--------------2A00AD3EE22798162C569A13-- From jkandell@email.arizona.edu Mon May 7 21:36:12 2001 From: jkandell@email.arizona.edu (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:36:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] What % shade cloth? In-Reply-To: <200105071909.f47J9cb27973@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010507143447.01a38100@jkandell.inbox.email.arizona.edu> What percentage rating for shade cloth do I use to shelter my tomatoes during June and July in Tucson AZ? (It comes in different percentages, from 30 to 80%.) jk From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue May 8 01:39:51 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 01:39:51 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] What % shade cloth? Message-ID: I have always heard 62% to 68% shade cloth for summer gardens. I'm interested in what others recommend. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Jonathan Kandell >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] What % shade cloth? >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 14:36:12 -0700 > >What percentage rating for shade cloth do I use to shelter my tomatoes >during June and July in Tucson AZ? (It comes in different percentages, >from 30 to 80%.) > >jk > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From vochopz@prodigy.net Tue May 8 03:22:40 2001 From: vochopz@prodigy.net (vochopz@prodigy.net) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:22:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105080322.f483Meb18988@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I own a yucca strata. It is not looking healthy at all. It is slowly turning brown and loosing its lower fronts. It is planted in a pot. Does this has anything to do with it? Please respond back. I do not want to lose it, it is a very nice one. From s2@AuroraNow.org Tue May 8 04:01:13 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:01:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] a couple oddities. References: Message-ID: <3AF76F89.254C7875@AuroraNow.org> Hi all, I have the most interesting thing. On one of my aloes (not sure of variety--very similar to tiger aloe, but I'm not sure that's what it is), like right in the middle of the flower stem, a new baby aloe started growing. I've seen pups sprout in the ground around the base (mine usually give me 4-5 new pups each every spring), but this mid-flower-stem baby is a new one on me?! What the heck do I do with it since it's attached to the flower stem and not a root runner? It has 4-5 small (1/2-1") leaf pads growing right out of a bend in the flower stem. Also, I have tiny white bugs on several of my brittlebush. I've *never* seen these (or any natives, really) bothered by bugs. I can't really tell if they're doing any harm so I'm not sure if I should worry (just some tiny residue that I'm assuming is some sort of bug doo-doo). -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological community. Office: 1981 N San Joaquin, Tucson AZ 85743 || (520) 578-2801 ===================================================== "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " --R. Buckminster Fuller From millero@worldnet.att.net Tue May 8 05:09:52 2001 From: millero@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:09:52 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] What % shade cloth? References: <4.2.2.20010507143447.01a38100@jkandell.inbox.email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <009301c0d77f$7b30fb80$8151530c@j0r9501> I use 50% for tomatoes in NW Phoenix. Sometimes also shade peppers. Don't know if that would also be appropriate for Tucson. -Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Kandell" > What percentage rating for shade cloth do I use to shelter my tomatoes > during June and July in Tucson AZ? (It comes in different percentages, > from 30 to 80%.) From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue May 8 13:26:05 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:26:05 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] lace bug? Message-ID: Sherryl, I noticed bugs on my brittlebush, too. When I checked them out they appear to be lace bugs (not the green lace wings, but a scking insect that starts out dark and turns white as it matures. Never seen them on this plant before. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Sherryl Stalinski >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] a couple oddities. >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:01:13 -0700 > >Hi all, >I have the most interesting thing. On one of my aloes (not sure of >variety--very similar to tiger aloe, but I'm not sure that's what it >is), like right in the middle of the flower stem, a new baby aloe >started growing. I've seen pups sprout in the ground around the base >(mine usually give me 4-5 new pups each every spring), but this >mid-flower-stem baby is a new one on me?! What the heck do I do with it >since it's attached to the flower stem and not a root runner? It has 4-5 >small (1/2-1") leaf pads growing right out of a bend in the flower stem. > >Also, I have tiny white bugs on several of my brittlebush. I've *never* >seen these (or any natives, really) bothered by bugs. I can't really >tell if they're doing any harm so I'm not sure if I should worry (just >some tiny residue that I'm assuming is some sort of bug doo-doo). > >-- >Sherryl Stalinski >Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org >For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological >community. > >Office: 1981 N San Joaquin, Tucson AZ 85743 || (520) 578-2801 >===================================================== >"I became convinced that we're here for each other. " > --R. Buckminster Fuller >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue May 8 14:54:29 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:54:29 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] lace bug? Message-ID: Sherryl, Lace bugs have the potential to weaken the plant. I'm just watching mine at the moment to see if any beneficial insects show up. My books recommend spraying with a superior horticultural oil such as Sunspray Ultrafine Oil. (2 1/2 tablespoons of oil mixed with water to make one gallon; irrigate plants well before treatment; don't apply at temps above 85; slightly toxic to humans and other mammals). Linda >From: Sherryl Stalinski >To: Linda Drew >Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] lace bug? >Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:13:31 -0700 > >Linda, >do you think these little white suckers (!) are something I should worry >about? Should I spray the plants do you think? >-- >Sherryl Stalinski >Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org >For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological >community. > >Office: 1981 N San Joaquin, Tucson AZ 85743 || (520) 578-2801 >===================================================== >"I became convinced that we're here for each other. " > --R. Buckminster Fuller _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From s2@AuroraNow.org Tue May 8 15:03:32 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:03:32 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] lace bug? References: Message-ID: <3AF80AC4.2FB5F04B@AuroraNow.org> > don't apply at temps above 85; Ha! Well that will be around October, so I guess I'll just watch them and wash 'em off occasionally. I've noticed, by the way, that my 3 tecoma stans seem to be ladybug magnets. I see at least 2-3 ladybugs a day on them... but they haven't hopped over to the brittlebush to help it out. Maybe I should start some sweet peas to get some mantis' back in the loop. -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological community. Office: 1981 N San Joaquin, Tucson AZ 85743 || (520) 578-2801 ===================================================== "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " --R. Buckminster Fuller From jkandell@email.arizona.edu Tue May 8 16:41:49 2001 From: jkandell@email.arizona.edu (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:41:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] What % shade cloth? In-Reply-To: <009301c0d77f$7b30fb80$8151530c@j0r9501> References: <4.2.2.20010507143447.01a38100@jkandell.inbox.email.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010508093936.0182f660@jkandell.inbox.email.arizona.edu> >I use 50% for tomatoes in NW Phoenix. Sometimes also shade peppers. Don't >know if that would also be appropriate for Tucson. -Olin Thanks Olin. By the way, why is it that peppers are so much more sensitive to heat than tomatoes? I would thought the opposite, but I've needed to water my peppers almost every day, whereas tomatoes still getting by with weekly. Leaves of pepper almost always seem to be wiliting, and they suffer immediately from lack of water. jk From auntiekoo@home.com Tue May 8 21:07:25 2001 From: auntiekoo@home.com (auntiekoo@home.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:07:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105082107.f48L7Pb07275@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Hello -- we are new Arizona vegetable gardeners! Also, we want to participate in the plant a row for the homeless program. What, if anything, can we grow in the summer? We've got partial sun and full sun areas. Thanks for any information, Karen From Krulich@aol.com Wed May 9 01:47:51 2001 From: Krulich@aol.com (Krulich@aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:47:51 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question: Oleander problem Message-ID: <64.ddd16cf.2829fbc7@aol.com> I have a question regarding my oleanders. They are looking really bad right now. A lot of the leaves are turning yellow, which I know happens every year and I get nervous every time it happens. ;) It seems like only my oleanders are looking bad right now. The ones in town look great, full of green leaves and flowers. Am I not watering them enough? I last watered them a little more than a month ago, and maybe again a month and a half before that. They are really large, old oleanders. They're not dying, they just don't look good. What gets me is that I have a few oleanders that I haven't watered since...maybe August 2000 and they actually look better than the ones they I water regularly. They're not getting water from any other source either, and they've got quite a few flowers. Any ideas what's going on? Thanks, Tom From cbp87@home.com Wed May 9 03:26:20 2001 From: cbp87@home.com (cbp87@home.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:26:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105090326.f493QKb07624@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I just bought some beans at the produce store called, 'maricopa beans." Have you ever heard of them? Are they called something else? I can't find out anything about them. From srwcrypto@aol.com Wed May 9 06:51:58 2001 From: srwcrypto@aol.com (srwcrypto@aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:51:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105090651.f496pwb28223@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Is There any way to keep the Australian bottle tree from dropping popcorn (flowers) all over the place this time of year? From RkBetu@aol.com Wed May 9 16:17:56 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:17:56 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailanthus trees dying Message-ID: Thank you for your replies. I know my ailanthus are on the edge of their tolerance zone and have started watering more thoroughly. I have another question regarding them. How are they reproducing? None of mine have ever gotten seed pods - all males? I know they put up shoots from the roots, but I have dug out many that were not attached to any roots. Some are on the other side of the house, some 50+ feet away from the larger trees.It took the 2 original trees over 10 yrs before others started sprouting. Rock Betu From jcp5@mindspring.com Wed May 9 16:22:10 2001 From: jcp5@mindspring.com (jcp5@mindspring.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:22:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105091622.f49GMAb22849@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We have small hopping bugs by the hundreds in our grass lawn, they leave large brown areas in our lawn and then start in another spot on the Bermuda. The birds are loving them, but we don't. We don't want to use a pesticide that will harm either our pets or the birds. What should we do to eliminate this problem? From sjbass@qwest.net Wed May 9 16:59:48 2001 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:59:48 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Summer vegetables References: <200105082107.f48L7Pb07275@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AF97784.96090F10@qwest.net> Karen: The following link will take you to a publication (AZ1005) that you can view online. It is a vegetable planting calendar for Maricopa county. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Vegetable In general, warm season vegetables are those that produce a fruit. Peppers, eggplant, etc. Sue Bass Master Gardener auntiekoo@home.com wrote: > Hello -- we are new Arizona vegetable gardeners! Also, we want to participate in the plant a row for the homeless program. What, if anything, can we grow in the summer? We've got partial sun and full sun areas. Thanks for any information, Karen > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From rodgerrung@aol.com Wed May 9 21:54:57 2001 From: rodgerrung@aol.com (rodgerrung@aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:54:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105092154.f49Lsvb25392@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have a Lemon bush and Navel orange tree. The Lemon is on it's third year and the Navel is on second. The problem I have is they both have lots of blossoms and fruit sets on only to drop off, resulting in no fruit. Is there anything I should be doing? I fertilize and deep water. Also my Lemon bush has grown to about 8 feet, should I cut it back? I live in Gilbert and the house is built on previous farm land. Thank you, Rodger From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 9 23:07:44 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:07:44 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Young citrus not bearing fruit Message-ID: Roger everything is normal with your citrus trees, they do not typically bear fruit until they are 4 to 5 years old. The lemon tree grows very vigorously and may need to be pruned to keep it with in bounds, but this is not the time of year to prune it. One must be very careful when you do prune the lemon to not take off too much and expose either the trunk or the limbs to the sun for they will sunburn. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 9 23:07:49 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:07:49 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bottletree litter Message-ID: <71.d3b86d1.282b27c5@aol.com> Sorry but flowers and seeds are natures way of reproducing and we don't know of a way of stopping that nor do we want to. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 9 23:07:51 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:07:51 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question: Oleander problem Message-ID: <57.15bed55d.282b27c7@aol.com> Tom, I suspect that you are not watering often enough which is one cause of yellow leaves. Check out this site on irrigation: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed May 9 23:07:53 2001 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:07:53 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [MG] Palo Brea Trouble Message-ID: <33.14afe450.282b27c9@aol.com> Dave, Sounds as if the tree is being watered adequately now, but did the home owner start watering soon enough. You might also investigate how the tree was watered when it was planted. The Palo Brea doesn't have many problems so that is why I would look to adequate irrigation. Are you aware that we have the whole Master Gardener Manual on line which is a marvelous resource. There is a great chapter on irrigation at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html >From there you can pick up the index and browse through the whole book on line. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist From cactusmaxson@compuserve.com Thu May 10 00:09:19 2001 From: cactusmaxson@compuserve.com (cactusmaxson@compuserve.com) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:09:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105100009.f4A09Ib20265@Ag.Arizona.Edu> We planted corn in February and it is already tasseling at about 3 feet. What are we doing wrong? Also, often our lettuce tastes bitter, even when planted during winter, cooler months. Thank your for your help. From ameyer@mail.mc.maricopa.edu Thu May 10 00:41:43 2001 From: ameyer@mail.mc.maricopa.edu (ameyer@mail.mc.maricopa.edu) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:41:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105100041.f4A0fhb24218@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Can you tell me where I can obtain Uzbek melon seeds? A few years back, Smitty's markets carried the melons for two years running, but I haven't seen them since, and I suspect that our climate ought to be suitable for Central Asian crops. Many thanks for your help, Allen Meyer From vochopz@prodigy.net Thu May 10 01:14:05 2001 From: vochopz@prodigy.net (vochopz@prodigy.net) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:14:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105100114.f4A1E5b27586@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I own a yucca strata, is planted in a pot. There is some browning ocurring throughout the plant. It is easy to see if compared with the other yucca stratas next to it. Drainage is good, no pest have been seen, and some water is added every so often. Please help me with it, or call me at (602) 763-6807. I greatly appreciate your cooperation. PACO From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 13:33:50 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] A couple oddities. References: <3AF76F89.254C7875@AuroraNow.org> Message-ID: <3AFA98BE.15D1B922@qwest.net> Sherryl, When I've experienced this phenomenon before, also on aloes that looked like tigers [don't know, I often scrounge tossed out plants in the alleys], it didn't end up being a pup, just a few leaves that eventually became somewhat scraggly. I tossed the whole stalk out after bloom and the leaves never did establish themselves like pups at the base of the plant. Linda Sherryl Stalinski wrote: > Hi all, > I have the most interesting thing. On one of my aloes (not sure of > variety--very similar to tiger aloe, but I'm not sure that's what it > is), like right in the middle of the flower stem, a new baby aloe > started growing. I've seen pups sprout in the ground around the base > (mine usually give me 4-5 new pups each every spring), but this > mid-flower-stem baby is a new one on me?! What the heck do I do with it > since it's attached to the flower stem and not a root runner? It has 4-5 > small (1/2-1") leaf pads growing right out of a bend in the flower stem. > > Also, I have tiny white bugs on several of my brittlebush. I've *never* > seen these (or any natives, really) bothered by bugs. I can't really > tell if they're doing any harm so I'm not sure if I should worry (just > some tiny residue that I'm assuming is some sort of bug doo-doo). > > -- > Sherryl Stalinski > Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org > For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological > community. > > Office: 1981 N San Joaquin, Tucson AZ 85743 || (520) 578-2801 > ===================================================== > "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " > --R. Buckminster Fuller > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 13:40:17 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Information on aquatic plants References: <00d301c0d8ee$477f1220$1ec30e3f@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3AFA9A41.D6D685BB@qwest.net> --------------3A544BA80BCC577B2BF8A19A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am partial to Sylvia DeVisme who has been in the business longer than even she cares to remember. She lives in the neighborhood behind the old Tower Plaza in East Phoenix, and her PN is 602/273-1805. Her business, the Lily Pond, is run out of her home [appts only] and she has been there so long the city grandfathered her in under the zoning laws.... Linda Guy, Master Gardener jkasko wrote: > We are looking for information on aquatic/wetland plants for our area > (Phoenix). We have plant names but don't have the particulars on > them. Does anyone know of any good resources (book titles, people, > etc.) where I could research about growth patterns, propagation, > etc.? Thanks for any info. joanne kasko --------------3A544BA80BCC577B2BF8A19A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am partial to Sylvia DeVisme who has been in the business longer than even she cares to remember. She lives in the neighborhood behind the old Tower Plaza in East Phoenix, and her PN is 602/273-1805. Her business, the Lily Pond, is run out of her home [appts only] and she has been there so long the city grandfathered her in under the zoning laws....

Linda Guy,
Master Gardener

jkasko wrote:

We are looking for information on aquatic/wetland plants for our area (Phoenix). We have plant names but don't have the particulars on them. Does anyone know of any good resources (book titles, people, etc.) where I could research about growth patterns, propagation, etc.? Thanks for any info. joanne kasko

--------------3A544BA80BCC577B2BF8A19A-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 14:03:17 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 07:03:17 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vegetable Gardening References: <200105060216.f462GCW26433@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFA9FA5.DD4C7AB0@qwest.net> When this question has appeared in the past, there have been replies from students of 'permaculture' who have tried out what you suggested, although they have placed layers of newspaper down first before bulding up the raised bed. I'm hoping that someone like that is still a member of this list server and replies directly to you. I cannot reply out of any personal experience, unfortunately. Interesting resources for you could be the Master Gardener Manual http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ and the vegetable section of our publications list http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ Most people spend a few months killing the lawn with a systemic like Roundup which needs to be done now while the grass is growing vigorously [cannot be done in the cooler winter months]. In my case, bless my husband, he actually dug out the top 10" of bermuda and soil and purchased a truckload of high grade topsoil, which I continue to amend with organic material twice a year, before each planting season [least ways that what I always intend to do!]. Linda Guy, Master Gardener choate@primnet.com wrote: > I would like to start a veg. garden. The spot that I have chosen is an established lawn area. The size of the garden I would like to start would be 6X8 area. My question is what is the best way to start? Would it be better to dig up the lawn area or could I build a 2ft high incloser and just simply put it over the lawn and not have a problem latter on with the grass growing up threw the 2ft thick layer of soil? will I always have a problem with the grass no mater what I do? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Thu May 10 15:03:09 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:03:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: brittlebush bugs References: <3AF76F89.254C7875@AuroraNow.org> <3AFA98BE.15D1B922@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3AFAADAD.40836530@AuroraNow.org> Hi Linda et. al., I finally broke down and sprayed my brittlebush with a general garden insect spray a few days ago because a couple of them had several leaves totally ravaged and laced-out. It does seem to be controlling the problem although I still saw 1-2 bugs. I had sprayed one about a week ago and only saw one bug on it this morning. I'm not sure if its the same bug, but my mexican bush sage is being eaten too. Don't know what it is with bugs this year, especially on the normally resistant natives. -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological community. Office: (520) 578-2801 || on AOL Instant Messenger: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " --R. Buckminster Fuller From mishelle@usscreen.com Thu May 10 18:03:15 2001 From: mishelle@usscreen.com (Mishelle Fresener) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:03:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Corn and Pepper Plant Questions Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010510105835.026cfbd0@usscreen.com> I have corn that I planted in late February. It is tasseling but the cobs are JUST starting to emerge. Is something going wrong or will it catch up? Also-My Jalapeno plants are flowering, but then the flowers drop off stem and all. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Everything is growing very well and I was glad to find this list. Thanks, Mishelle in Tempe From georgana@avon.net Thu May 10 18:25:11 2001 From: georgana@avon.net (georgana@avon.net) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:25:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105101825.f4AIPBb22576@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Our whole yard has a grandular type dirt piles that measure about the size of a quarter and each pile has mounds of this grandular dirt each grandular is about the size of a pencil lead. We recently tilled the whole yard with compost/menure and re-seeded with Tall Fiscu grass, which is now about an inch high. We had this problem of the grandular dirt before this. We haven't seen any signs of worms, or any thing on the ground, like any other bugs. We were told by a friend, maybe there is a beetle that works at night that is doint the problem. I haven't seen anything, unless it is very, very small. The original yard has diacondra and it finally was eaten up and just the dirt was left. I hope you can give us some help with our problem. georgana@avon.net From dagreene-usa@foreverliving.com Thu May 10 18:32:48 2001 From: dagreene-usa@foreverliving.com (dagreene-usa@foreverliving.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:32:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105101832.f4AIWlb23764@Ag.Arizona.Edu> 1- I would like to know what types of pumpkin do best in the Valley as well as when should they be planted? 2- Should everybearing strawberries be allowed to send out runners, or should they be clipped or trained into pots to form new plants. From theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com Thu May 10 19:36:43 2001 From: theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com (john peder) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [MG] information on aquatic plants In-Reply-To: <00d301c0d8ee$477f1220$1ec30e3f@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20010510193643.73855.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> Both Ortho and Sunset put out books on ponds. Both have listings with pictures of aquatic plants in them. The books should be in your library or to buy at Home Depot. --- jkasko wrote: > We are looking for information on aquatic/wetland > plants for our area (Phoenix). We have plant names > but don't have the particulars on them. Does anyone > know of any good resources (book titles, people, > etc.) where I could research about growth patterns, > propagation, etc.? > > Thanks for any info. > > joanne kasko > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com Thu May 10 19:38:04 2001 From: theoriginalcactusjack@yahoo.com (john peder) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [MG] information on aquatic plants In-Reply-To: <00d301c0d8ee$477f1220$1ec30e3f@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20010510193804.35650.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Both Ortho and Sunset put out books on ponds. Both have listings with pictures of aquatic plants in them. The books should be in your library or to buy at Home Depot. --- jkasko wrote: > We are looking for information on aquatic/wetland > plants for our area (Phoenix). We have plant names > but don't have the particulars on them. Does anyone > know of any good resources (book titles, people, > etc.) where I could research about growth patterns, > propagation, etc.? > > Thanks for any info. > > joanne kasko > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From RSPaxson18@qwest.net Thu May 10 20:41:17 2001 From: RSPaxson18@qwest.net (RSPaxson18@qwest.net) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:41:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105102041.f4AKfHb17133@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have had Marigolds in the ground since November 00 and they have done great. Applied Miracle Grow periodically. Last three weeks I have noticed that the flowers are signicficantly smaller and are now yellow rather than gold. The leaves are healthy in terms of size but are somewhat yellow and some with holes but can not find any insects, etc. Dont know if to water more or less or prune or add some nitrogen or something else to the soil other than miracle grow. My African Daisies have all bloomed but no buds replenishing although the plant is growing and very healthy looking. Please advise. Thank you. From RkBetu@aol.com Thu May 10 21:13:49 2001 From: RkBetu@aol.com (RkBetu@aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:13:49 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ailanthus trees dying Message-ID: <10.cab04cd.282c5e8e@aol.com> Over 20 yrs ago, I transplanted a few ailanthus from the Cottonwood area where they do indeed sucker profusely.Some of mine do get the little green flowers, but none have ever produced seed pods. Could this be due to climate here? Rock From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:22:57 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:22:57 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Brittlebush bugs References: <3AF76F89.254C7875@AuroraNow.org> <3AFA98BE.15D1B922@qwest.net> <3AFAADAD.40836530@AuroraNow.org> Message-ID: <3AFB06B1.24CA98C3@qwest.net> Lace bugs are shown in the entomology chapter of the MG Manual http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/entomology/sap.html Linda Sherryl Stalinski wrote: > Hi Linda et. al., > > I finally broke down and sprayed my brittlebush with a general garden > insect spray a few days ago because a couple of them had several leaves > totally ravaged and laced-out. It does seem to be controlling the > problem although I still saw 1-2 bugs. I had sprayed one about a week > ago and only saw one bug on it this morning. I'm not sure if its the > same bug, but my mexican bush sage is being eaten too. Don't know what > it is with bugs this year, especially on the normally resistant natives. > -- > Sherryl Stalinski > Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org > For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological > community. > Office: (520) 578-2801 || on AOL Instant Messenger: AuroraS2 > ===================================================== > "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " > --R. Buckminster Fuller > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From s2@AuroraNow.org Thu May 10 21:35:57 2001 From: s2@AuroraNow.org (Sherryl Stalinski) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:35:57 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] problem patterns References: <200105060216.f462GCW26433@Ag.Arizona.Edu> <3AFA9FA5.DD4C7AB0@qwest.net> Message-ID: <3AFB09BD.70D8E2FF@AuroraNow.org> I have a theoretical question for the MGs. It seems like we've been reading a lot of similar problems in the past few months (tomatoes blooming but not setting fruit, corn tasseling to young, bugs on our roses and native flowers) and as I think about the weather (very wet winter, early 100* days) I can't help but wonder if its just a weird year? It seems like we went hot/cold/hot/cold several times over the past couple months (I remember over easter week, we had 3-4 days in the 90s, and one day in the 50s). Could the wet winter and temp swings be contributing to a lot of the problems some of us seem to be having this year? (More bugs, veggies misbehaving?). (By the way, I have to make a public apology to my local rabbits who *are* nibbling away my prickly pear and other "rabbit resistant" plants, but they were not the culprits in the trampling. I knew there was a sign on our road that said "Open Range" but I never took it seriously until I caught a young calf last week trapsing across my wash--and right through where the one Santa Rita had been demolished. My son almost ran into one pulling into our driveway last night. Not sure how to handle cows as landscape pests, though.) -- Sherryl Stalinski Aurora Now Foundation -- http://www.auroranow.org For the research, education and celebration of human and ecological community. Office: (520) 578-2801 || on AOL Instant Messenger: AuroraS2 ===================================================== "I became convinced that we're here for each other. " --R. Buckminster Fuller From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:31:41 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:31:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: [AG] Golden Arborvitae Infestation References: <001d01c0d776$49f9e300$2c0b2aa2@bbs.scottsburg.com> Message-ID: <3AFB08BD.E0F0B617@qwest.net> --------------EE91231F44455EF3334EE14B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would first try spraying with the garden hose. If still there in a week, upgrade to the dish soap mix we often recommend for sap suckers, a management strategy that is described in our discussion on aphids. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/aphid.htm Next would be to use an insecticidal soap that most nurseries carry. Follow label's instructions. For identification, check out the chapter on 'bugs' in the online Master Gardener Manual. http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ I'm sorry, I don't know the growth habit of the plant and do not know why you experience different shapes. Are there different light exposures or watering sources? Linda choward wrote: > I have 6 golden arborvitaes & 2 of them are turning brown, when I put > a white piece of paper under them & shake them , there is hundreds of > tiny things crawling on the paper. What do you suggest I do for them? > Also I bought all 6 of them at one time, last april, one of them is > rounding off, the others are pointing, are there different shapes in > these? Thanks C. Howard --------------EE91231F44455EF3334EE14B Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would first try spraying with the garden hose. If still there in a week, upgrade to the dish soap mix we often recommend for sap suckers, a management strategy that is described in our discussion on aphids. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/aphid.htm

Next would be to use an insecticidal soap that most nurseries carry. Follow label's instructions.

For identification, check out the chapter on 'bugs' in the online Master Gardener Manual. http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/

I'm sorry, I don't know the growth habit of the plant and do not know why you experience different shapes. Are there different light exposures or watering sources?

Linda

choward wrote:

I have 6 golden arborvitaes & 2 of them are turning brown, when I put a white piece of paper under them & shake them , there is hundreds of tiny things crawling on the paper. What do you suggest I do for them? Also I bought all 6 of them at one time, last april, one of them is rounding off, the others are pointing, are there different shapes in these? Thanks C. Howard

--------------EE91231F44455EF3334EE14B-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:34:55 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:34:55 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Watering a saguaro References: <3AC4F1F9.411C6032@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3AFB097F.234BC90@qwest.net> I don't personally own one so my advice is book-learnin! Check out our publications, one of which is online http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Desert We also have a chapter in the MG Manual dedicated to cactus http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ Good luck to you, and thanks for the picture! Linda Vytas Jaudegis wrote: > I would like your opinion on an idea I have. Below is a picture of my saguaro in my front yard. > It is on a 1.5 ft tall mound surrounded by a 1 ft deep creekbed. > Can I place a 1GPH dripper in the base of the creekbed about 4-5 ft from the saguaro? > It would run 2 times/week providing 6gal/week. I think this would provide some water, but not too much. > OR - should I "flood" the creekbed around the saguaro with about 20 gal of water every 2 weeks? > The closest other water sources are15ft away on my acacia tree and 12ft on a sagebush.. > > I appreciate any information you can provide. You answered my question last year, but unfortunately the email was > deleted. Thanks again! VJ > > [Image] From jmontgomery@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:47:22 2001 From: jmontgomery@qwest.net (jmontgomery@qwest.net) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:47:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105102147.f4ALlMD29294@Ag.Arizona.Edu> I have two Phoenix date palms, a male and a female. Last year I got a huge crop of dates, but this year (and two years ago) the female produced nothing to fertilize. How can I even out the production? Why do I get dates only every other year? Oh and by the way are Queen Palm dates worth bagging (thinning and all the rest that is needed)? Thanks. From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:41:22 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:41:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Grapes References: <200104272131.f3RLVnu11861@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFB0B02.772B318F@qwest.net> These are deciduous. For more information, get our publication on growing grapes at home at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Good luck! Linda Guy Holsinger2000@yahoo.com wrote: > I have a Thompson seedless grapevine to plant. Where is the best location? (n,s,e,w) > Also, I have a south wall in my front yard which has two very large shade trees in front of it. There is shade on the wall most of the day. I would like to plant some vines to cover the plain wall. Can you recommend a vine that stays green all year, is not messy, and has flowers? I really like the Alice du Pont Mandevilla vine. Is this one I can plant? I think this is not a vine for Arizona, but for southern california instead. Why do they sell them here? Do they really do well in Phoenix? I have tried one once before, but it died. Thanks for any info you can send. Kim > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu May 10 21:37:09 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:37:09 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] 50 year old Xmas Cactus References: <200104182004.f3IK4Nl06992@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFB0A05.44D99B35@qwest.net> I don't own one so I hesitate to give advice for such a stately old plant. But since your question has been around quite some time without a reply, I'd like to suggest you call the hotline at the Desert Botanical Gardens, available M-F from 10 - 11:30am. 480-941-1225. Good luck! Linda Guy Master Gardener KCGlaze45@home.com wrote: > I have a Xmas Catus that is over 50 yrs. old, it was my Grandmother's and it's huge and beautiful, but I noticed that after if finished blooming there are some branches that are turning redish in color....wondering if it needs something while it's in it's growing stage?......kathy > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu May 10 22:32:43 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:32:43 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Digger bee? Message-ID: I am wondering if you might be describing digger bee nests. Key features are: tiny hole about 1/8 to 1/4 inch small pile of soil particles around the hole may be many scattered or clumped holes in an area Digger bees are solitary bees (no danger like the Africanized honey bee). They are important pollinators. I have heard of groups of these bees in an area, but never seen them. (they don't eat plants. Do you notice solitary bees in the area? Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: georgana@avon.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:25:11 -0700 (MST) > >Our whole yard has a grandular type dirt piles that measure about the size >of a quarter and each pile has mounds of this grandular dirt each grandular >is about the size of a pencil lead. We recently tilled the whole yard with >compost/menure and re-seeded with Tall Fiscu grass, which is now about an >inch high. We had this problem of the grandular dirt before this. We >haven't seen any signs of worms, or any thing on the ground, like any other >bugs. We were told by a friend, maybe there is a beetle that works at night >that is doint the problem. I haven't seen anything, unless it is very, very >small. The original yard has diacondra and it finally was eaten up and just >the dirt was left. > >I hope you can give us some help with our problem. > >georgana@avon.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri May 11 01:53:19 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:53:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Texas Ebony References: <200104241744.f3OHieu22567@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFB460F.67BC379D@qwest.net> I don't know the answer to your question about the pods being edible, but found the following in a web search. http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/txebony.html Linda Guy, MG phil.turner@amec.com wrote: > I have a mature Texas Ebony in my Phoenix front yard. It is producing huge quantities of seeds/nuts. The Javalina love these things and will spend hours under the tree rooting for them. Are they edible for people? It would make them easier to pick up if I knew they had a value to me, other than Javalina food. If edible, how can you use them? > > Thanks for any insight. > > Phil Turner > AMEC Inc. > Vice President > Infrastructure, Mesa, Arizona > Phone +1 480 648 5305 > Fax +1 480 830 3903 > phil.turner@amec.com > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri May 11 02:02:07 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:02:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Turf Pest ID References: <200105091622.f49GMAb22849@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFB481F.3BC450E6@qwest.net> I don't know what your problem is, and knowoing what is in your lawn is the most critical piece for management. But I can direct you to the turf pest section of the entomology chapter in our Master Gardener Manual. It's online at http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/entomology/turf.html#turf Maybe a review of the photos and description will help you uncover your problem. Another thought is to contact the satellite office nearest to you and ask if others in your neighborhood are experiencing the same problem. [Right side of this page] http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm Linda Guy Master Gardener jcp5@mindspring.com wrote: > We have small hopping bugs by the hundreds in our grass lawn, they leave large brown areas in our lawn and then start in another spot on the Bermuda. The birds are loving them, but we don't. We don't want to use a pesticide that will harm either our pets or the birds. What should we do to eliminate this problem? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri May 11 02:06:06 2001 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Flower Care References: <200105102041.f4AKfHb17133@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFB490E.945E7407@qwest.net> Your flowers are doing what they normally do...they are annuals and do not last through both of our growing seasons. They are simply beginning to wind down. Enjoy them while you can. For more info check out our flower pubs at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Flowers Linda Guy, MG RSPaxson18@qwest.net wrote: > I have had Marigolds in the ground since November 00 and they have done great. Applied Miracle Grow periodically. Last three weeks I have noticed that the flowers are signicficantly smaller and are now yellow rather than gold. The leaves are healthy in terms of size but are somewhat yellow and some with holes but can not find any insects, etc. Dont know if to water more or less or prune or add some nitrogen or something else to the soil other than miracle grow. My African Daisies have all bloomed but no buds replenishing although the plant is growing and very healthy looking. Please advise. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From clydic@goodnet.com Fri May 11 04:57:49 2001 From: clydic@goodnet.com (Carol Lydic) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:57:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sick Cacti Message-ID: I have a friend whose Madagascar Palm toppled the other day. It appears to be rotten at the base (very dry, crusty, brown in color; inside looked rotten but dry, blackish in color). Too much water? Can it be cut off and rerooted? She has a cerreus that appears to have the same problem (in it's own pot) but hasn't yet toppled. Her soil medium appeared to be regular potting soil. Don't they need more of a gravel base? I could research these, but am thinking there are some experts out there who can lend a hand. She is located in very North Scottsdale. These plants are very large; the palm is nearly 2 feet tall and the cerreus is 3-4 feet tall; both in large pots on her patio, receiving lots of southern exposure. Ideas? I was trained in the wrong county to be on top of this one. Thx. From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 11 18:00:19 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:00:19 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Australian plants Message-ID: Elizabeth, Try this site http://www.anbg.gov.au/anbg/ (Australian National Botanic Gardens) go to the bottom of the page and click on SEARCH then enter vine and look at some of the possibilities. Linda Drew >From: BETTOWN@aol.com >To: drew_linda@hotmail.com >Subject: Honeysuckle vine >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:55:25 EDT > >Hi Linda, > >A few days ago I received from you, 2 possible names for a vine that I am >looking for. I have searched both of them: >Common name Woodbine was not it when llooking at it in the gardening >encyclopedia. >The other one Kings Mantle I could not find at all with that name or >Thunbergia erecta. > >I will continue to search & let you know but I know this is growing at >DixlettaGardens and the owner did say she thought it was called Kinetta and >is local to Australia. > >Thanks for your help. > >Elizabeth Townley > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Beverlyfz@aol.com Fri May 11 19:24:29 2001 From: Beverlyfz@aol.com (Beverlyfz@aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:24:29 EDT Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ornithogalum Message-ID: I just bought a lovely thing at Lowes. Ornithogalum, Orange Star. The Western Garden book has a section on this plant but doesn't describe this one. The label says partial shade and the book says full sun. Also the descriptions of the various varieties don't fit. It has clusters of 1 in orange flowers on a 10 inch or so stalk and leaves that look like tulips only narrower. Where is my best shot at its survival? Can it stay in a pot? B From socky3850@aol.com Fri May 11 20:55:26 2001 From: socky3850@aol.com (socky3850@aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:55:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200105112055.f4BKtQD29108@Ag.Arizona.Edu> On some of the cacti in my yard, there are small white, cottony objects. This is the first year that these have appeared on my plants. I'm assumming that these are not something that is desireable to have on a cactus. I've been cleaning them off with a hard spray from a hose but this also damages the cactus. Can you tell me what these are and how to control them? From southpawaz@home.com Fri May 11 21:38:21 2001 From: southpawaz@home.com (Bobby) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:38:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Scale on Cactus References: <200105112055.f4BKtQD29108@Ag.Arizona.Edu> Message-ID: <3AFC5BCD.E3611DD2@home.com> The white stuff is a protective material put out by an insect called cochineal scale. The only treatment I have ever seen recommended is to do what you are doing, spray it off with water. The scale can weaken the cactus in the long term if left alone. If the problem you are having is that you are knocking off new pads with the hard water spray, it probably wouldn't hurt to wait until those pads have grown stronger joints before spraying off the scale. socky3850@aol.com wrote: > > On some of the cacti in my yard, there are small white, cottony objects. This is the first year that these have appeared on my plants. I'm assumming that these are not something that is desireable to have on a cactus. I've been cleaning them off with a hard spray from a hose but this also damages the cactus. Can you tell me what these are and how to control them? > -- Bobby southpawaz@home.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 11 21:49:54 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 21:49:54 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ornithogalum Message-ID: There are several orange-blooming species: maculturn, durium, fergasoniae, and splendens. Also,there are now three new cultivars of star-of-Bethlehem (Ornithogalum). Workers at USDA-ARS have developed a yellow, gold, and fiery orange flowering star-of- Bethlehem named 'Chesapeake Blaze', 'Sunburst', and 'Sunset'. What is unique with this new bulb crop is that they don't need a cold treatment to make them flower. Under cool conditions, the plants flowers throughout the year. Plants of all three cultivars are being distributed by New World Plants in Escondido, CA and Bay City Flower Company in Half Moon Bay, CA (adapted from Ag. Research, December 1998) I would guess these would do best in pots of rich garden soil, regular water, and partial shade. (durium, for example, isn't listed for our desert climates). Howver, this is just the information I've dug up -- I don't have actual experience with these bulbs. If you can discover the actual species, that would help. Linda Drew Master GArdener >From: Beverlyfz@aol.com >To: arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ornithogalum >Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:24:29 EDT > >I just bought a lovely thing at Lowes. Ornithogalum, Orange Star. The >Western >Garden book has a section on this plant but doesn't describe this one. The >label says partial shade and the book says full sun. Also the descriptions >of the various varieties don't fit. It has clusters of 1 in orange flowers >on >a 10 inch or so stalk and leaves that look like tulips only narrower. Where >is my best shot at its survival? Can it stay in a pot? B >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri May 11 21:55:44 2001 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 21:55:44 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Cochineal Scale on Cacti Message-ID: Here