From j_harrell@NetZero.net Tue Jan 1 17:41:16 2002 From: j_harrell@NetZero.net (Jackie and Bill Harrell) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:41:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Virus from me! Message-ID: <3C31F4BC.672A6A7B@NetZero.net> Dear Everybody, This is Happy New Year and a fine how d'y do - I am so sorry, but Sunday night December 30 I took in a virus, the W32.magistr, and apparently my computer gleefully passed it on to many of you in my address book. Mea culpa, mea culpa! I'm so sorry, but the crazy e-mail and attachments that have gone out are not my intention. This is to alert you to update your anti-virus stuff and to SCAN and get rid of it, if it arrived. I truly hope this will not cause too great an inconvenience! And I do hope the rest of your 2002 is Virus Free! Sincerely, Jackie Harrell ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Wed Jan 2 12:25:31 2002 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 05:25:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] plant tomatoes early or on time? Message-ID: <000801c19388$9ca0be20$90a20404@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1934D.E5397F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you, I face a really short tomato season March - June, with = not many tomatoes by the time it gets hot, so this year I'm starting = seed a month early. Question: Is it better to plant standard-sized = tomato seedlings (7 weeks) a month early in e.g. wall o waters or = plastic-wrapped cages; or is it better to keep them inside an extra = three or four weeks until the regular planting time? My fear is that = putting them in early, even under plastic, they'll just sit there, = whereas inside they'd continue growing. Then again, I've heard many = warnings about growing seedlings beyond 6-8 weeks. jk ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1934D.E5397F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Linda Guy, MG
roger vail wrote:
Hi Linda, I know we just entered the winter season but Spring in our area is just around the corner..My question is last summer my Bermuda came in very sparingly.As you may have guessed my backyard is about 75% shade now.I need some ideas on what type of shade grass is used for the summer if any.The area needed to cover is about 1000 square feet..Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....I don't want to go another summer with most of the yard being dirt. Thank You Susan--------------005E4BC0B11F060F5D1C9D1D-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 21:31:10 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:31:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Spacing Dwarf Nandina Plants References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011229120902.009f47c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <3C361F1D.343AF379@qwest.net> Your best bet would have been to seek the information from your nursery staff, whom I'd still suggest that you call. Regular nandina can be 3-4' wide; there are numerous dwarf varieties, each with a slightly different span. If you have the name, you can check out the latest Sunset Western Garden book for the estimated dimensions. Linda Guy, MG Signa wrote: > I'd like to replace an irregularly shaped bed of iris in full sun (Tucson > street side yard) with a grouping of Dwarf Nandina. I've been looking > every winter for several years to find some that develop the lovely rich > red winter color and finally found some today in a local nursery. I want > them to form, when mature, an informal grouping of separated and distinct > (from one another) low "mounds" rather than a massed planting where they > all run into one another. How far apart do I want to space them to get the > effect I'm after? I.e., how wide should I expect each individual bush to > spread? > > Signa > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Jan 4 21:32:00 2002 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:32:00 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Evergreen Elm (Ulmus parvifolia) Message-ID: <47.160420be.29677950@aol.com> --part1_47.160420be.29677950_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Evergreen Elm is cold deciduous which means that when temperatures are near freezing the tree will drop its leaves. Here in the low desert (Phoenix area) it almost always happens. It is important that the Evergreen Elm be deep watered periodically to help flush the salts out of the root zone as the tree appears to be quite salt sensitive. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_47.160420be.29677950_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Evergreen Elm is cold deciduous which means that when temperatures are near freezing the tree will drop its leaves. Here in the low desert (Phoenix area) it almost always happens.
Check out other care practices in our palm publication at http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf
Linda Guy, MG
fotoman wrote:
Hi Linda, If you are still offering advice by email...I need help. My Sago Palm is rather mature but recently transplanted into my garden. It's leaves are beginning to curl. Is this an indication of too much water, not enough water, or something else? Thanks for any assistance you could provide! Evan PowellLas Vegas, NV--------------94FB2067FBFE62B232992ACB-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 21:37:12 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:37:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite Leaf Drop References: <200201032317.g03NHSn00648@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C362088.76CC21DA@qwest.net> It could be that these are different mesquites, but it could also be the microclimate that each find themselves in. My desert tress in the south yard in full winter sun hold leaves much longer and don't seem to do a 100% drop. Those on the north side of the house in a few months of winter shade generally drop before Christmas, if the weather is cool. Linda Guy, MG mgdlite37d@aol.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > Might be having a problem with my mesquite tree of 7 years old. Live at Tatum & Dynimite N. Phoenix. Landscapers originally planted a 15 Gal mesquite in my front yard (facing west) with a dripline with a 2gal emiter. The tree grew fast quick and large, and the watering schedule during summer set at 4 days a week. I finally I cut the water off about 2 years ago with a spread of about 25 foot in diameter and about 35 high. > > The problem I'm having for the past 2 years is in winter it drops clean all of its leaves then comes back beautiful in the spring and through the summer. Others (mesquite trees) in my area seem not to drop leaves like mine of the same spcies and size. Is it the watering that I shut down the problem??????. > > Thanks Sal > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 22:02:33 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:02:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mangos References: <200201032108.g03L8Gn05639@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C362679.68F94EAE@qwest.net> If you do not receive a reply from any other members of the arid_gardener server, why don't you try the local chapter of the California Rare Fruit Growers at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/clubs/clubs.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG marisadei@yahoo.com wrote: > how do you propagate a mango plant from seed?I bought mangos this summer, ate the fruit and kept the large pits. do these pits have a chance of becoming plants? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 22:05:34 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:05:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Rabbit Control References: <200112240256.fBO2udn06775@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C36272E.99F27CD3@qwest.net> This question has been considered from time to time on this list server. May I suggest you search the archives of previous answers at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm To get you started here is one recent reply http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-June/004443.html Linda Guy, MG gwjinaz@aol.com wrote: > need infor on preventing damage from rabbits and a list of plants that rabbits stay away from and list of plants that they love Have heard of chemical Repel and moth balls but have not tried them thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From dmkerr2@home.com Fri Jan 4 22:58:28 2002 From: dmkerr2@home.com (Kerr Family) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:58:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Try planting tomatos early Message-ID: <002101c19573$532bed90$328e0541@cx89858a> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19538.A67D9600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had some great tomato crops planting them early. I am too cheap = to use wall-o-waters. Instead I use four one gallon milk or pool = chemical jugs arranged in a cross around the plant. Cover from 6 to 8 = am on really cold mornings. The plants grow very slowly, but are = putting out roots early in the season. They can grow huge vines, but = the flowers don't work until it gets warm. But when it does and a large = vigorous plant supports them, you won't know what to do with all the = tomatos. I had to resort to drying them and leaving bags with my = neighbors and friends at work. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19538.A67D9600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C198FE.77A1EBA0-- From dhackett4golf@juno.com Wed Jan 9 19:44:51 2002 From: dhackett4golf@juno.com (dhackett4golf@juno.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:44:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200201091944.g09Jipn21004@Ag.arizona.edu> Crown of thorns, My plant is two years old, It now has began to yellow and drop leaves. Is this a normal reaction before blooming. I resently repotted the plant in a 12inch by 12inch pot. Any help would be nice. Thank you for the time, dhackett4golf@juno.com From poin@gardenpro.net Wed Jan 9 19:54:19 2002 From: poin@gardenpro.net (poin) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 12:54:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] childrens gardening Message-ID: <3C3C9FEB.58B6C922@gardenpro.net> Lucy Bradley, I am looking for gardening activities for children of different ages and was wondering if this falls into your area of expertise or there is someone else at the extension office that I could contact. Thanks, Kari Treadway From rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com Wed Jan 9 20:44:10 2002 From: rpcs30@email.sps.mot.com (Alan Zelhart) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:44:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] childrens gardening References: <3C3C9FEB.58B6C922@gardenpro.net> Message-ID: <3C3CAB9A.C30009AC@email.sps.mot.com> Hi Kari, I'm not Lucy, but maybe I can help. Here are just a couple of sites with gardening ideas for children. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/6160/kids.html http://www.greenweb.com.au/garden/html/kids_in_the_garden.html http://www.fertilemindsinc.com/gchild.html http://www.gardengatemagazine.com/projects/kid4.html http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/gpe/app/links.html If you go to google at http://www.google.com and type in Childrens Garden Projects, you can come up with a whole tons of sites with projects for children, that might give you some ideas. Hope this helps :) ----- Alan Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.gizmoaz.com Over 225 roses and over 135 Different varieties! Never a dull moment!! Check out the Garden Cams on Saturday and Sunday!! poin wrote: > Lucy Bradley, > > I am looking for gardening activities for children of different ages and > was wondering if this falls into your area of expertise or there is > someone else at the extension office that I could contact. > > Thanks, > > Kari Treadway > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jan 9 21:31:06 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:31:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Childrens gardening References: <3C3C9FEB.58B6C922@gardenpro.net> Message-ID: <3C3CB69A.576FD056@qwest.net> You might bookmark our Youth Gardening website, which has current events http://ag.arizona.edu/youthgardens/index.html Do you have our school gardening book? http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/sch-bk.htm Linda Guy, MG poin wrote: > Lucy Bradley, > > I am looking for gardening activities for children of different ages and > was wondering if this falls into your area of expertise or there is > someone else at the extension office that I could contact. > > Thanks, > > Kari Treadway > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jan 9 21:33:21 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:33:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] MCCE Turf Display References: <200201091348.g09Dmcn27774@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C3CB720.C5D2D9A5@qwest.net> Since its outdoors, and each has good signage, you can visit the turf display or any of the other demo gardens even if the office isn't open. Just make sure you give yourself some daylight. And don't forget that much of the Bermuda lawns will be dormant now. Linda Guy, MG carmine@lynchbros.com wrote: > Is there a grass other than Bermuda that can survive the heat and drought of the summer months in Phoenix? Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Wed Jan 9 21:36:58 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 14:36:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Gardenias References: <200201090123.g091Nfn17133@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C3CB7FA.D86FC84F@qwest.net> In addition to the garden guru's reply, gardenias don't much like our soil or temps or aridity either. Most who grow these will rely upon acidifying products, one is as simple as periodically watering with vinegar diluted in water. But I agree with guru, it's a real push in the low desert. Order our pub MC 29 for more ideas at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Linda Guy WaltSi3@Yahoo.com wrote: > I'd like any information I can get about planting gardenias outdoors in Phoenix. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From Ann Boland"----- Original Message -----From:=20 Carmine Di=20 GiacomoTo: gardenguruSent: Wednesday, January 09, = 2002 10:58=20 AMSubject: Re: Turf in PhxThank=20 you for your reply. What are the extension office hours that I can = come by and=20 look at the Western Sod displays?Carmine Di=20 Giacomo
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I have a red fairy duster and two sage varieties that have been in the ground about 9 years that I want to move. They are on a drip system and are too big for their location. Thanks for any help you can offer! From umiller@azdps.com Sat Jan 12 01:44:29 2002 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:44:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Hot Spot In-Reply-To: <75B9E334-06A1-11D6-A737-000A27B35DB2@home.com> Message-ID:Bone meal is not a very good source of Phosphorous anywhere. The Ca-phosphates that make up bone are quite insoluble and react very slowly if at all in soils to provide plant-available P. To compound the problem, many bones are subjected to much more intensive processing and extraction now than they used to be. The net effect of rigorous processing will simply result in less plant-available P. I don't think there is much harm in using bone meal, but I doubt it does much good either. The most likely situation where bone meal would be effective is in highly acid soils, where the bone Ca-phosphates would be more soluble. This situation is very rare or nonexistent in AZ.
2.Mad Cow Disease has never been diagnosed in the U.S. We do not import bone meal, or ruminant byproducts, so there is no threat of contracting Mad Cow disease from using bone meal. I think this is not a likely way to contract BSE, in fact very unlikely. There is a nice paragraph on this question at http://lawncarp.tripod.com/madcow.htm.
----- Original Message -----From:=20 Carol Lydic=20To: Jonathan KandellSent: Monday, January 14, 2002 = 6:24=20 AMSubject: RE: [Arid_gardener] = need for=20 greensand/kelpHello, Jonathan: Well, unless you = found a bit=20 of heaven in this 100,000 square mile sandbox, you're going to need to = amend=20 your soil as long as you garden. The good news is that you don't = need to=20 spend an arm and a leg at the nursery if you know someone with a = horse=20 and grass. I compost here in Gila County, and my soil looks like = Kansas! I really don't do anything else.PS: There isn't any difference in our = soil up=20 here and that down at lower elevations. It's all=20 crummy!!Carol LydicGila County Master Gardener and Master=20 Composter-----Original Message-----
From:=20 arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu=20 [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of = Jonathan=20 Kandell
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:26 = AM
To:=20 arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Subject: [Arid_gardener] need = for=20 greensand/kelp
An=
n -
Ri=
ght now
I have some stock and petunias in a circle around the base of my large =
mesquite
tree.=A0 They seem to get =
enough morning
sun early to keep them happy and after the little leaflets fall off, =
they=92ll
get even more sun since the tree will be bare for a while.=A0 Of course, these flowers will die =
in the
summer.
A =
couple
of years ago I planted vinca minor =96 the leafy trailing kind (also =
called
periwinkle) that has little blue/purple flowers, not the vinca with the
multicolored flowers.=A0 It =
grew and grew
and grew -------.=A0 It looked =
very nice
because it was green all year long and made kind of a green mound around =
the
tree, but it got out of hand.=A0 =
Maybe I
didn=92t trim it enough.=A0=A0 =
I finally
pulled it out.=A0 So this is a =
good choice
if you=92re willing to do regular =
trimming.
Ursula Miller
Not =
a Master
Gardener
<=
span
class=3DEmailStyle18>
-----Original
Message-----
From: =
arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu
[mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On
Behalf Of Ann Boland
Sent: Monday, January 21, =
2002
5:59 PM
To: =
arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Subject: [Arid_gardener] =
Shade
loving plants
What can we plant under mature mesquite and palo verde =
trees in
Tucson? We currently are successful with rosemary, but shrubs get
leggy. I'm looking for suggestions for shrubs, flowers and =
cacti.
Thanks
Ann Boland
ann@annboland.com
Integrated Learning Solutions, Inc.
2720 W. Calle Cuero de Vaca
Tucson, AZ 85745
v - 520-624-9575
f - 520.624.5436
mobile - 520-241-4838
Mark, Ann =96
Yes, I forgot about geraniums.=A0
What a great little plant!
On the salvia =96 I was going to mention it, but mine took over =
when I had
a bed of mixed salvias under the mesquite tree.=A0 =93Leggy=94 would be an understatement.=A0 I had a jungle =96 colorful, but way too much =
helter-skelter kind
of thing, even though I planted the various kinds with a color plan in
mind.=A0=A0 The jungle took =
only one year to
happen.=A0 Maybe I planted them =
too close
or didn=92t prune enough.=A0 =
Anyway, they=92re
a good idea, too.
On the yellow bells =96 I learned something with them, too. There =
are two
different kinds.=A0 One that =
grows into a
nice bush that can get fairly big without pruning but can be kept in =
check with
periodic pruning.=A0 And then =
there=92s
another kind that grows to be as big as a house (literally).=A0=A0 I have both and one grows to =
my roof.=A0 It takes a lot to keep this one =
under
control.=A0 So I guess the =
trick is to
make sure you read the label.
Ursula Miller
=A0a nice
bush that can get fairly big withou
-----Original
Message-----
From: Mark Mittelstaedt
[mailto:mexicopete@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, Jan 25, =
2002 8:13 AM
To: Ursula Miller
Subject: Re: =
[Arid_gardener] Shade
loving plants
Ann / Ursula
- geraniums do pretty well in these conditions. I can also vouch for the
periwinkle - I have one growing under a Mexican lime - shadier than the
mesquite - and I only need to hack it back twice a year. If the area =
inquestion
gets some sun - justicia works, as does yellow bells and salvia greggii. =
There
is some legginess, but you will get a few years of lush growth. I like =
the
layered look.
-----
Original Message -----
To: Ann =
Boland ; arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Sent: Tuesday, =
January 22,
2002 9:28 PM
Subject: RE:
[Arid_gardener] Shade loving plants
Ann =
-
Right now I have =
some stock
and petunias in a circle around the base of my large mesquite tree.=A0 They seem to get enough morning =
sun early to
keep them happy and after the little leaflets fall off, they=92ll get =
even more
sun since the tree will be bare for a while.=A0
Of course, these flowers will die in the =
summer.
A couple of years =
ago I
planted vinca minor =96 the leafy trailing kind (also called periwinkle) =
that has
little blue/purple flowers, not the vinca with the multicolored =
flowers.=A0 It grew and grew and grew =
-------.=A0 It looked very nice because it =
was green all
year long and made kind of a green mound around the tree, but it got out =
of
hand.=A0 Maybe I didn=92t trim =
it
enough.=A0=A0 I finally pulled =
it out.=A0 So this is a good choice if =
you=92re willing
to do regular trimming.
Ursula Miller
Not a Master =
Gardener
-----Original Message-----
From:
arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu =
[mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of Ann Boland
Sent: Monday, January 21, =
2002
5:59 PM
To: =
arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Subject: [Arid_gardener] =
Shade
loving plants
What can we plant under mature mesquite and =
palo
verde trees in Tucson? We currently are successful with rosemary, =
but
shrubs get leggy. I'm looking for suggestions for shrubs, flowers =
and cacti.
Thanks
Ann Boland
ann@annboland.com
Integrated Learning Solutions, Inc.
2720 W. Calle Cuero de Vaca
Tucson, AZ 85745
v - 520-624-9575
f - 520.624.5436
mobile - 520-241-4838
You would have to take the question of Meyers lemon's legality and/or advisability to your own county's cooperative extension office, whose phone number you can find in the government phone listings.
You live very close to my mom, who is in Beverly Hills. I'm always reminded of how small a world it is.
Linda Guy, MG
Maricopa County [Phoenix], AZ
Angelspalm1@aol.com wrote:
Hi Linda,--------------9A84981E4276270D1E730010-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 00:26:44 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:26:44 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Wall-o-waters References: <000101c1a777$620ab420$a5a20404@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3C549AC4.7F11EE71@qwest.net> --------------ADD7F5A36A29783EECD1D736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The wall-o-waters do not close at the top as the volume of water [assuming you fill the chambers fairly high up] is sufficient to keep the top open. This year I'm trying the red ones to see if production is enhanced. Linda Guy, MG Jonathan Kandell wrote: > You mentioned previously you used wallowaters in Februrary for > tomatoes. I was wondering how one prevents overheating with those. > In our hot/cold, hot/cold early spring, we need to avoid high > temperatures as much as we need to raise night temperatures. Will an > open wallowater prevent freezing death? Also wondering if you preheat > the soil with plastic mulch before using wallowaters. Have you > experimented at all with plastic low tunnels? jk --------------ADD7F5A36A29783EECD1D736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The wall-o-waters do not close at the top as the volume of water [assuming you fill the chambers fairly high up] is sufficient to keep the top open. This year I'm trying the red ones to see if production is enhanced.
I'm writing to you because I recently purchased a Meyer's Lemon Tree, and was looking up info on the internet .. your answer to a question about losing leaves told the person that " Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:55:03 -0700 By the way, did you know that Meyers is now illegal [and therefore no longer available] in Arizona because it is a carrier of citrus tristeza virus? It is a devastating disease ofother citrus trees. Linda Guy Master Gardener
I live in North Central Florida, in Orange Springs which is Northeast of Ocala 30 miles and Southeast of Gaineville 30 miles.. shall I contact my extension program or has this problem been eliminated.. the nursery that I purchased this speciman at said it was compatible to this area.. Thank you Patricia Chambers
Linda Guy, MG
Jonathan Kandell wrote:
You mentioned previously you used wallowaters in Februrary for tomatoes. I was wondering how one prevents overheating with those. In our hot/cold, hot/cold early spring, we need to avoid high temperatures as much as we need to raise night temperatures. Will an open wallowater prevent freezing death? Also wondering if you preheat the soil with plastic mulch before using wallowaters. Have you experimented at all with plastic low tunnels? jk--------------ADD7F5A36A29783EECD1D736-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 00:31:32 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:31:32 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Peach Trees in Lawns References: <200201271454.g0REs4K13559@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C549BE4.28A5AC74@qwest.net> Most any tree, including deciduous fruit trees, will grow in a lawn as long as their specific watering needs are met, separate and apart from what is applied to keep the turf looking good. You see this situation in many of our older neighborhoods that are flood-irrigated every two weeks. If you have sprinklers, you must be prepared to water your tree deeply at more distant intervals. Check out the MG Manual chapter on fruit trees for info on watering and other cultural practices. http://ag.arizona.edu./pubs/garden/mg/ Another useful publication for Maricopa County [MC 90] can be ordered at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm I would hesitate to be too close to a block wall which might provide too much heat and reduce the winter chill hours that all deciduous fruit trees need to produce fruit. Linda Guy, MG azmdm@aol.com wrote: > Is it recommended to plant a semi-dwarf peach in a lawn area? Or should I seek to plant it along the block wall border? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 00:34:15 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:34:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tomatoes/vegetables. References: <200201141643.g0EGh0e03021@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C549C87.21908184@qwest.net> Many of us avid tomato fans will put out tomatoes in February, but we are willing to coddle them for the privilege of earlier and longer production. If I am that early in the season, all of my tomatoes are surrounded by a hothouse contraption called a wall-o-water, which you can find at any good nursery. Otherwise, it is better to wait until threat of frost goes. Our vegetable planting calendar is AZ 1005 and can be accessed from our publication list at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG cdmunoz@earthlink.net wrote: > I live in Chandler, in the Ocotillo area. I want to plant some tomatoes. For the Spring planting, when is the best time to plant them and which variety does best for this climate? > > Since temperatures can get cold over night and can get very hot during the day, how do you care for them to get the best results? > > I have a very limited space. What other kinds of vegetables are easy to grow and do well for this climate? > > Thank you for all your information, > Cherri Munoz > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 00:40:27 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Highway Screen References:
The larger varieties of Texas Rangers [leucophyllum] are a good bet. Texas Mtn. Laurel is another. The bushes you saw with the yellow flowers and grey/green foliage are probably brittlebush and they won't meet your height requirements. Of course, there is the ubiquitous oleander that makes a very nice dense hedge.
For other ideas, you can use the advanced search function at elandscape [based in Phoenix] to specify your requirements. http://www.elandscape.com/lvl/lvl.html?s=a
Linda Guy, MG
AMANDA WELTY wrote:
I would love a native shrub that would grow taller. The taller the better. I would like it to be evergreen and full, to really screen the freeway well. I should also mention that we already have a 6 ft chain link fence running the length of the offensive side, so if the shrub was over 6 ft it could help hide the fence also. Some parts of the loop 101 in Peoria are landscape with large bushes (grey/green foliage, yellow flowers?), but I am concerned about their toxicity. Texas Sage and Ruella were suggested and I will taking a look at those. Any other suggestions? Amanda--------------F04DA87706C8C8997DB88597-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 00:56:58 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Drooping cyclamen References: <000701c1a392$1d298ea0$5e8e0541@phnx1.az.home.com> Message-ID: <3C54A1DA.EBCB0A34@qwest.net> --------------C7AED778E992D7451986791A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I consulted our flowers pub and did not see cyclamen listed.See AZ 1100 Flower Planting Guide for the Low Desert at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#top The Sunset Western Garden Book suggests that cyclamen's adaptability by zone depends on the species; none were listed for our zone 13, however. They all lose their leaves during part of the year, and these reappear before or with the flowers. They like very porous soil with lots of compost. If you just planted them in our dense clay, it probably wishes you'd amended the soil first. I have seen them sold in nurseries, but assumed they were indoor plants. SWGB suggests that what you have is a florist's cyclamen [blooms in late fall/winter] and that these are sold as potted plants, not tubers. Sadly, it does not go on to explain how to transfer to the yard. Maybe it shouldn't? Why not ask your favorite nursery if it has any, the type, and what they recommend for care practices? Linda Guy, MG "kerm59@home.com" wrote: > I just planted cyclamen in a shaded area on a north wall that tends to > stay cool and damp, at least in the winter. They did well for a week > or so, but now several of them are starting to droop. We have had > some cold mornings recently. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks --------------C7AED778E992D7451986791A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I consulted our flowers pub and did not see cyclamen listed.See AZ 1100 Flower Planting Guide for the Low Desert at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#top----- Original Message -----From: Linda GuySent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:45 PMTo: waddell1615@msn.comSubject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW pageDo you really think 4 feet will do it? There alot of native shrubs that would grow quickly but most exceed 4'. Let us know.Linda Guy, MG
The Sunset Western Garden Book suggests that cyclamen's adaptability by zone depends on the species; none were listed for our zone 13, however. They all lose their leaves during part of the year, and these reappear before or with the flowers. They like very porous soil with lots of compost. If you just planted them in our dense clay, it probably wishes you'd amended the soil first.
I have seen them sold in nurseries, but assumed they were indoor plants. SWGB suggests that what you have is a florist's cyclamen [blooms in late fall/winter] and that these are sold as potted plants, not tubers. Sadly, it does not go on to explain how to transfer to the yard. Maybe it shouldn't? Why not ask your favorite nursery if it has any, the type, and what they recommend for care practices?
Linda Guy, MG
"kerm59@home.com" wrote:
I just planted cyclamen in a shaded area on a north wall that tends to stay cool and damp, at least in the winter. They did well for a week or so, but now several of them are starting to droop. We have had some cold mornings recently. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks--------------C7AED778E992D7451986791A-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Mon Jan 28 01:00:18 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:00:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Spraying Olives References: <200201202332.g0KNWTe10545@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C54A2A2.73237DD1@qwest.net> You can order our publication on chemical removal of flowers on olives and mulberries at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/pubs/pubs.htm#Ornamentals You need to spray at several very precise times in the bloom cycle. Following the chemical's directions, spray with about 1/4 of the blossoms are open. Second aplications about 1 week after the first should get most of the later flowers. Linda Guy, MG kathy_cheatham@hotmail.com wrote: > When do you spray olive trees in the valley? Who would you recommend doing the spraying as we have several acres we are working with? > > We have an area that gets no sun and one that gets very little during the day. We do want grass in those areas and have heard of a couple that go no sun. What are your suggestions, the water requirements, best places to buy them, and fertilizer requirements? > > Thank you very much. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From kencoxphoto@earthlink.net Mon Jan 28 02:48:08 2002 From: kencoxphoto@earthlink.net ( ) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:48:8 -0800 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <41200211282488580@earthlink.net> ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm a photographer looking for an infestation of Cochineal Scale to photograph. Have had any reports of such lately? I'm looking for some where to start. Thanks, Ken Cox To See Image Portfolio for Ken Cox Photo click on the string below http://www.ozimages.com.au/portfolio.asp?MemberID=413 e-mail kencoxphoto@earthlink.net ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Ken,
I don't know if you live in AZ, but if you do, all you have to do is drive around and look in people's yards, you are bound to find a prickly pear somewhere covered in cochineal scale. Also, I was out in the desert last weekend (North of Fountain Hills) and saw several cactus covered. As another alternative, I haven't been to the Desert Botanical Gardens in the last couple of months, but last time I was there in September, there were several plants with cochineal scale.
Barbara C. (Master Gardener)
<kencoxphoto@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi,I'm looking for some good examples of Cochineal infestation. I'm a photographer and I'm hoping to find a good example to photograph for a publisher. Any recommendations?Thanks,Ken CoxTo See Image Portfolio for Ken Cox Photo click on the string belowe-mail kencoxphoto@earthlink.net
Unfortunately, neither calendarizes the life cycle, but this may help get you started. I suppose that ultimately I'm suggesting that you may not have good photo ops this time of year.
Linda Guy, MG
kencoxphoto@earthlink.net wrote:
Hi,I'm looking for some good examples of Cochineal infestation. I'm a photographer and I'm hoping to find a good example to photograph for a publisher. Any recommendations?Thanks,Ken Cox To See Image Portfolio for Ken Cox Photo click on the string belowhttp://www.ozimages.com.au/portfolio.asp?MemberID=413e-mail kencoxphoto@earthlink.net--------------7BC736B14AA30538D5B6C8BC-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Tue Jan 29 21:56:49 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:56:49 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ornamental orange vs. Edible References:
Linda Guy, MG
Ann Boland wrote:
We are beginning to rework our entire yard. Probably lovely when built seven years ago, but now shrubs are too big, or too shaded or just plain unattractive. There are some we would like to transplant. I checked the MG book, but there is nothing on transplanting mature shrubs. Any thoughts? I have predominantly bougainvillea, lantana (both shrub and ground cover form), pineapple guava, Texas ranger. ThanksAnn Boland--------------3CB5C94F4676B9C8BDE4C93D-- From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Wed Jan 30 16:03:13 2002 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:03:13 -0500 Subject: [Arid_gardener] fava trouble Message-ID: <200201301103.AA174719310@twistedclicks.com> My fava plants are starting to have a problem, some leaves yellowing, turning a dark black. Seems to afflict certain branches, from bottom up. jk ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at twistedclicks.com From David W. Reichel"
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I have asked this question before and did not receive any response so am trying again. Can you grow pomegranates trees from the fruit and if so how do you germinate? Thanks--------------A681BDAA284760ECA3671BD6-- From sjbass@qwest.net Wed Jan 30 18:25:17 2002 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Purchasing Dwarf Citrus in Florida References: <200201301656.g0UGueK29564@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C583A8D.C16CBB7B@qwest.net> Check out this link http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/flgard/msg1019341121056.html It is a garden forum where I found questions and answers about purchasing dwarf citrus in Florida. Hope it helps. Sue Bass Master Gardener Gilbert, AZ slkfla@aol.com wrote: > hi, I saw an article in family circle magazine about dwarf citrus trees, and can't seem to find them in Florida,the article said California, and the four winds won't send them to fla. I don't understand why? and would like to find someplace I can get them. thanks for any information you can give me. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Wed Jan 30 23:17:26 2002 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:17:26 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pepper Tree with problems Message-ID: <161.7fdaa93.2989d906@aol.com> --part1_161.7fdaa93.2989d906_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The pepper tree is very susceptable to Texas Root Rot and the symptoms you describe point to the fungus TRR. A tree aflicted with Texas Root Rot will usually show a very rapid colapse of part or all of the tree, will often show a fungus on the ground over the root zone, the leaves that wilt will usually hang on to the tree. TRR will usually show its symptoms from mid summer to late fall. For a positive ID dig up one or more roots, finger size and about a foot long. Do not wash and keep as fresh as possible by placing them in a plastic bag and keep in the frig, take to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for examination, there is no charge for this service. While there pick up a bulletin on Texas Ropot Rot which describes a treatment which sometimes will save the tree, also are listed trees and plants that are immune to TRR as well as resistant species. I'm sorry that you have had trouble with getting an arborist to look at your tree. Should you require the services of an arborist again be sure that the arborist is certified ( their ads in the yellow pages will so state.) The following site will take you to a list of certified arborists: http://www2.champaign.isa-arbor.com/arborists/arborist.html Texas Root Root spreads quite rapidly, and for any treatment to help it is important to start it ASAP. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist --part1_161.7fdaa93.2989d906_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The pepper tree is very susceptable to Texas Root Rot and the symptoms you describe point to the fungus TRR. A tree aflicted with Texas Root Rot will usually show a very rapid colapse of part or all of the tree, will often show a fungus on the ground over the root zone, the leaves that wilt will usually hang on to the tree. TRR will usually show its symptoms from mid summer to late fall. For a positive ID dig up one or more roots, finger size and about a foot long. Do not wash and keep as fresh as possible by placing them in a plastic bag and keep in the frig, take to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 for examination, there is no charge for this service. While there pick up a bulletin on Texas Ropot Rot which describes a treatment which sometimes will save the tree, also are listed trees and plants that are immune to TRR as well as resistant species.
David W. Reichel
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C1AA6F.B5FC7F00-- From RodMcQ6@aol.com Thu Jan 31 23:12:55 2002 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:12:55 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] frozen plants Message-ID: <10f.b74eb67.298b2977@aol.com> --part1_10f.b74eb67.298b2977_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jackee, Better to cover your plants with fabric such as a sheet, blanket , burlap or even newspaper than to use plastic. Watering your plants will also help. I have used Xmas tree lights to protect citrus trees and other frost sensative plants. If you have several empty milk jugs, fill them with water and place them next to your plants just before you go to bed. If the leaves on your plants have frozen they will turn black in a few days. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_10f.b74eb67.298b2977_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jackee,Jackee at Luke=20 AFB
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C1AA78.793CA6E0-- From johnnieking@cableaz.com Sun Jan 13 01:17:25 2002 From: johnnieking@cableaz.com (JOHNNIE KING) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:17:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <000501c19bd0$1150dee0$8562a8c0@cableaz.com> From j_harrell@NetZero.net Tue Jan 1 17:41:16 2002 From: j_harrell@NetZero.net (Jackie and Bill Harrell) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:41:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Virus from me! Message-ID: <3C31F4BC.672A6A7B@NetZero.net> Dear Everybody, This is Happy New Year and a fine how d'y do - I am so sorry, but Sunday night December 30 I took in a virus, the W32.magistr, and apparently my computer gleefully passed it on to many of you in my address book. Mea culpa, mea culpa! I'm so sorry, but the crazy e-mail and attachments that have gone out are not my intention. This is to alert you to update your anti-virus stuff and to SCAN and get rid of it, if it arrived. I truly hope this will not cause too great an inconvenience! And I do hope the rest of your 2002 is Virus Free! Sincerely, Jackie Harrell ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From jkandell@twistedclicks.com Wed Jan 2 12:25:31 2002 From: jkandell@twistedclicks.com (Jonathan Kandell) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 05:25:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] plant tomatoes early or on time? Message-ID: <000801c19388$9ca0be20$90a20404@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1934D.E5397F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like many of you, I face a really short tomato season March - June, with = not many tomatoes by the time it gets hot, so this year I'm starting = seed a month early. Question: Is it better to plant standard-sized = tomato seedlings (7 weeks) a month early in e.g. wall o waters or = plastic-wrapped cages; or is it better to keep them inside an extra = three or four weeks until the regular planting time? My fear is that = putting them in early, even under plastic, they'll just sit there, = whereas inside they'd continue growing. Then again, I've heard many = warnings about growing seedlings beyond 6-8 weeks. jk ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1934D.E5397F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableLinda Guy, MG
roger vail wrote:
Hi Linda, I know we just entered the winter season but Spring in our area is just around the corner..My question is last summer my Bermuda came in very sparingly.As you may have guessed my backyard is about 75% shade now.I need some ideas on what type of shade grass is used for the summer if any.The area needed to cover is about 1000 square feet..Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated....I don't want to go another summer with most of the yard being dirt. Thank You Susan--------------005E4BC0B11F060F5D1C9D1D-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 21:31:10 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:31:10 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Spacing Dwarf Nandina Plants References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011229120902.009f47c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <3C361F1D.343AF379@qwest.net> Your best bet would have been to seek the information from your nursery staff, whom I'd still suggest that you call. Regular nandina can be 3-4' wide; there are numerous dwarf varieties, each with a slightly different span. If you have the name, you can check out the latest Sunset Western Garden book for the estimated dimensions. Linda Guy, MG Signa wrote: > I'd like to replace an irregularly shaped bed of iris in full sun (Tucson > street side yard) with a grouping of Dwarf Nandina. I've been looking > every winter for several years to find some that develop the lovely rich > red winter color and finally found some today in a local nursery. I want > them to form, when mature, an informal grouping of separated and distinct > (from one another) low "mounds" rather than a massed planting where they > all run into one another. How far apart do I want to space them to get the > effect I'm after? I.e., how wide should I expect each individual bush to > spread? > > Signa > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From RodMcQ6@aol.com Fri Jan 4 21:32:00 2002 From: RodMcQ6@aol.com (RodMcQ6@aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:32:00 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Evergreen Elm (Ulmus parvifolia) Message-ID: <47.160420be.29677950@aol.com> --part1_47.160420be.29677950_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Evergreen Elm is cold deciduous which means that when temperatures are near freezing the tree will drop its leaves. Here in the low desert (Phoenix area) it almost always happens. It is important that the Evergreen Elm be deep watered periodically to help flush the salts out of the root zone as the tree appears to be quite salt sensitive. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener --part1_47.160420be.29677950_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Evergreen Elm is cold deciduous which means that when temperatures are near freezing the tree will drop its leaves. Here in the low desert (Phoenix area) it almost always happens.
Check out other care practices in our palm publication at http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf
Linda Guy, MG
fotoman wrote:
Hi Linda, If you are still offering advice by email...I need help. My Sago Palm is rather mature but recently transplanted into my garden. It's leaves are beginning to curl. Is this an indication of too much water, not enough water, or something else? Thanks for any assistance you could provide! Evan PowellLas Vegas, NV--------------94FB2067FBFE62B232992ACB-- From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 21:37:12 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 14:37:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mesquite Leaf Drop References: <200201032317.g03NHSn00648@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C362088.76CC21DA@qwest.net> It could be that these are different mesquites, but it could also be the microclimate that each find themselves in. My desert tress in the south yard in full winter sun hold leaves much longer and don't seem to do a 100% drop. Those on the north side of the house in a few months of winter shade generally drop before Christmas, if the weather is cool. Linda Guy, MG mgdlite37d@aol.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > Might be having a problem with my mesquite tree of 7 years old. Live at Tatum & Dynimite N. Phoenix. Landscapers originally planted a 15 Gal mesquite in my front yard (facing west) with a dripline with a 2gal emiter. The tree grew fast quick and large, and the watering schedule during summer set at 4 days a week. I finally I cut the water off about 2 years ago with a spread of about 25 foot in diameter and about 35 high. > > The problem I'm having for the past 2 years is in winter it drops clean all of its leaves then comes back beautiful in the spring and through the summer. Others (mesquite trees) in my area seem not to drop leaves like mine of the same spcies and size. Is it the watering that I shut down the problem??????. > > Thanks Sal > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 22:02:33 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:02:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mangos References: <200201032108.g03L8Gn05639@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C362679.68F94EAE@qwest.net> If you do not receive a reply from any other members of the arid_gardener server, why don't you try the local chapter of the California Rare Fruit Growers at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/clubs/clubs.htm Good luck! Linda Guy, MG marisadei@yahoo.com wrote: > how do you propagate a mango plant from seed?I bought mangos this summer, ate the fruit and kept the large pits. do these pits have a chance of becoming plants? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From lindaguy@qwest.net Fri Jan 4 22:05:34 2002 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:05:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Rabbit Control References: <200112240256.fBO2udn06775@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <3C36272E.99F27CD3@qwest.net> This question has been considered from time to time on this list server. May I suggest you search the archives of previous answers at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/question.htm To get you started here is one recent reply http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-June/004443.html Linda Guy, MG gwjinaz@aol.com wrote: > need infor on preventing damage from rabbits and a list of plants that rabbits stay away from and list of plants that they love Have heard of chemical Repel and moth balls but have not tried them thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From dmkerr2@home.com Fri Jan 4 22:58:28 2002 From: dmkerr2@home.com (Kerr Family) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:58:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Try planting tomatos early Message-ID: <002101c19573$532bed90$328e0541@cx89858a> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19538.A67D9600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had some great tomato crops planting them early. I am too cheap = to use wall-o-waters. Instead I use four one gallon milk or pool = chemical jugs arranged in a cross around the plant. Cover from 6 to 8 = am on really cold mornings. The plants grow very slowly, but are = putting out roots early in the season. They can grow huge vines, but = the flowers don't work until it gets warm. But when it does and a large = vigorous plant supports them, you won't know what to do with all the = tomatos. I had to resort to drying them and leaving bags with my = neighbors and friends at work. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C19538.A67D9600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable