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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just moved from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf lawn. I plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info available to help me do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how long will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How long should I wait after using an herbicide like Roundup before planting anything? Is it OK to install the new landscape with dicots right away? Any other important points that I may have overlooked? How 'bout the birds we feed every day - are these herbicides toxic for them? Bev Collins, El Paso ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've = just moved from=20 Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf lawn. I = plan to=20 kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info available to = help me=20 do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of year? = I'd like=20 to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how long will the effects = of a=20 monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How long should I wait after = using=20 an herbicide like Roundup before planting anything? Is it OK to = install=20 the new landscape with dicots right away? Any other important points = that I may=20 have overlooked? How 'bout the birds we feed every day - are these = herbicides toxic for them?

Bev = Collins, El=20 Paso

------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0-- From leumasessej@hotmail.com Sat Jan 4 16:28:10 2003 From: leumasessej@hotmail.com (leumasessej@hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:28:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301041628.h04GSA114012@Ag.arizona.edu> just when is the right time to cut back grape vines and how much do you prune them for the best results? From Starlene Stewart" I love seed catalogs, and my favorite place to buy seeds is from Pinetree Seeds, on the web at www.superseeds.com . I love their prices -- for example, Cherry Belle Radishes approx 300 seeds per packet $0.60. Shipping for seeds is $1.95 for no matter how many packages of seeds you order. I must have ordered around 20 packs last time, and only paid $1.95. The only drawback is they are located in Maine and their climate is very different than ours. Are there any seed catalogs geared specifically toward southwestern gardening? I'd be interested if anyone knows of one. Thanks in advance. Starlene Stewart Maricopa, Arizona From Starlene Stewart" Hi, I was late getting my garden started in the fall, had hoped to begin planting in September but did not get the seeds into the bed until October 25th. I foolishly neglected to cover the area with chicken wire as I have in the past. I attribute that partly to the fact that we'd just moved from the Valley to this area and I just plain forgot. The birds ate every single thing that came up, the minute it came up. Why they had to eat *my* garden when there are several hundred acres right across the road is beyond me... guess mine *tasted* better. :-) So I ordered more seeds and replanted, around November 15th, and enclosed the bed with chicken wire. Speaking of which, does anyone know of a more economical supplier than Home Depot? It's getting expensive at $18.00 for 3' x 50'. One roll was enough for the four sides and the two strips across the top. It's not possible for me to get into the garden area unless I remove the top strips because the height is only 2-3 feet high. But the tiniest sparrows are still managing to make their way into the garden, squeezing through the one inch openings. Any ideas? In addition to the chicken wire, we've tried the fake owl, fake snake and strips of aluminum foil. I guess my best hope is to find a less expensive supplier of chicken wire than Home Depot, put poles in the ground around the garden and extend the height so I can get in there without crawling on my belly. My current garden is approx 56 square feet and I'm ordering more seeds today, so I'm going to need more room quick. Running late again... I'm ordering: tomatoes, eggplants, peppers, bell peppers to start indoors and hoping to get them out by mid-February, first of March at latest. I'm worried though, that the birds are going to find a way to eat these up as well once they are transplanted into the garden. So in closing, I guess my questions are: Where can I get chicken wire cheaper than Home Depot? What else can I do about the birds? Anyone else experiencing the same problem? Thanks in advance, Starlene Stewart Maricopa, Arizona From jweir2@aol.com Sun Jan 5 15:25:15 2003 From: jweir2@aol.com (jweir2@aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:25:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301051525.h05FPF103728@Ag.arizona.edu> We just planted some prickly pear cactus that a neighbor gave us. They were well established before she cut them down. They remained in her yard (after she cut them down) for over a month before we planted them. Now that they are in the ground again, what can we do to help them along? We provided extra support with stakes because they were drooping over, and we also gave them water....although we weren't sure how much was appropriate. Please comment. Can we give them anything else to inspire their recovery and growth? Thank you for your expertise! From Tat309@junct.com Sun Jan 5 18:02:43 2003 From: Tat309@junct.com (Beverly French) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:02:43 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] gardenias blooms and leaves wilting Message-ID: <000801c2b4e4$a6762920$0743a841@pentium> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i purchased three gardenia bushes 1 week ago and they were bright shiny = foliage and full of buds they are in a southeast window and in this = short period of time the plants look wilted and droppy what am i doing = to them and what can i do to fix this problem = beverly french = tahlequah ok. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720-- From CamRe@aol.com Sun Jan 5 18:45:55 2003 From: CamRe@aol.com (CamRe@aol.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:45:55 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] re Poinsettia planting Message-ID: <20.6668de7.2b49d763@aol.com> --part1_20.6668de7.2b49d763_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 3 Poinsettia plants that i received for Christmas and would like to know the best location on my property to plant them. We live in Apache Jct and would like to lknow what location is the best for Planting the plants. Thank You Doris Panek Camre@aol.com --part1_20.6668de7.2b49d763_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 3 Poinsettia plants that i received for Christmas and would like to know the best location on my property to plant them. We live in Apache Jct and would like to lknow what location is the best for Planting the plants.
Thank You
Doris Panek Camre@aol.com --part1_20.6668de7.2b49d763_boundary-- From k.m.fukuchi@cox.net Sun Jan 5 22:08:52 2003 From: k.m.fukuchi@cox.net (k.m.fukuchi@cox.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:08:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301052208.h05M8q107239@Ag.arizona.edu> Hi, I have a 100ft north facing wall in my backyard. I have tried several vines and shrubs but since the wall receives no sun in the winter and full, hot sun in the summer nothing has done well. I'd rather not use a vine with runners as they have been too invasive. Also the wall is 2 feet from my pool, so I can't use anything that will shed too much. I also have a water feature in my pool which has several spots for plants. Any suggestions would be valuable.Thank you, Kathy, Scottsdale From ktjnn@msn.com Fri Jan 3 17:21:20 2003 From: ktjnn@msn.com (ktjnn@msn.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:21:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301031721.h03HLK114705@Ag.arizona.edu> What is the best time to cut or prune boganvella, Lantana and Lady Banks rose? From Dmorty7@msn.com Fri Jan 3 02:31:48 2003 From: Dmorty7@msn.com (Dmorty7@msn.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:31:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301030231.h032Vm115134@Ag.arizona.edu> Where can I take soil from my garden for testing & evaluation? From TNTZ2@netzero.net Thu Jan 2 22:17:35 2003 From: TNTZ2@netzero.net (TNTZ2) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:17:35 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] growing bird of paradise from seed Message-ID: <000801c2b2ac$c4d3d050$37f36dd1@yourviu5vcdub5> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B27A.76443150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an almost two year old b.o.p. and it consists of two small but = healthy leaves about 4 inches high. I live in Illinois so the plant is = inside all year. what can I do to help this poor plant and it's = struggle to survive? Thank you for your advice. Happy New Year.=20 TnTz2 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B27A.76443150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B27A.76443150-- From dpete2@juno.com Mon Jan 6 16:50:33 2003 From: dpete2@juno.com (dpete2@juno.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:50:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Seed catalogs & birds Message-ID: <20030106.095126.-415881.12.dpete2@juno.com> Starlene: You might look at Seeds of Change from Santa Fe and Southwest Seeds (I think) also from Santa Fe. They're both on the web. For birds, I use bird netting. I put poles and posts along the edges of my garden and drape the netting over that. I got the netting at hardware stores. It comes in different sizes and it has to be pulled back to work in the garden. The holes are too small to allow the birds in, but you need to anchor the sides. If you leave them loose, the smart birds get under the netting. Then when you come out to check your garden the smart ones figure out how to get out and take off, but then you have to rescue the not so smart ones by pulling off the netting so they can get out of your garden. Good luck, Denny Peterson Tucson On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:51:38 -0700 (MST) arid_gardener-request@Ag.arizona.edu writes: > Send Arid_gardener mailing list submissions to > arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > arid_gardener-request@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > arid_gardener-admin@Ag.Arizona.Edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Arid_gardener digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fringed Shasta Daisy (jean) > 2. Rye grass yellowing (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) > 3. RE: How to carefor christmas catus (Ursula Miller) > 4. Question from Home-Hort WWW page (clariceburke@cs.com) > 5. Converting lawn to desert landscape (Bev Collins) > 6. Question from Home-Hort WWW page (leumasessej@hotmail.com) > 7. Seed Catalogs (Starlene Stewart) > 8. Birds eating seedlings (Starlene Stewart) > 9. Question from Home-Hort WWW page (jweir2@aol.com) > 10. gardenias blooms and leaves wilting (Beverly French) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "jean" > To: "Arid Gardener" > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:14:18 -0700 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fringed Shasta Daisy > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2AE59.E1B71670 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello, > > Would fringed shasta daisy grow here in the low valley? I was > thinking = > of a big pot that could be moved to the east side of the house when > it = > gets hot. I really want them for the west side but realize that may > get = > too hot during the summer. The pot is insulated. > > Thanks, JeanSciFi@mchsi.com > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2AE59.E1B71670 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > r-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > bgColor=3D#ffffff> >

Hello,

Would fringed shasta daisy grow here in the low > = > valley? =20 > I was thinking of a big pot that could be moved to the east side of > the = > house=20 > when it gets hot. I really want them for the west side but realize > that = > may get=20 > too hot during the summer. The pot is insulated.

Thanks, = > JeanSciFi@mchsi.com

> > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2AE59.E1B71670-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Reply-To: > From: > To: > Cc: > Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:17:37 -0700 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Rye grass yellowing > > Paul if you haven't fertilized your rye grass since you overseeded > you are > way past due. Use amonium nitrate fertilizer while the weather is > cool, the > nitrogen becomes available to the plant roots much faster than most > other > fertilizers. > I agree with your nursery in that you are applying too much water. > Today's > newspaper reported that your rye grass requires 0.08 inches of water > if > watered three days ago. Further, winter watering of rye grass should > be only > every 7 to 14 days. > Check out this site for more info on irrigation: > http://www.amwua.org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm > Another great source of information is in the booklet "LANDSCAPE > WATERING BY > THE NUMBERS" available free from most nurseries. > > Good luck. > > Rod McKusick > Master Gardener > ---Original Message----- > From: plcbusdel01@cox.net > To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu > Date: Friday, December 27, 2002 7:23 AM > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > > >Our rye grass has been very successful, however, recently we have > noticed > spotty areas of yellowing. We were told (by a nusery) that we are > watering > too much. We have cut the watering to 3 cycles per week - 5 mintures > per > cycle (about .4 to .6 inches per week). We've not seen any change > (yet). The > yellowing is present both in high and low areas. The yellowing is in > patches > and random. > > > >Are there other causes on this yellowing? > > > >Thank you, > > > >Paul Cote > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Arid_gardener mailing list > >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Ursula Miller" > To: , > Subject: RE: [Arid_gardener] How to carefor christmas catus > Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:41:02 -0700 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2ADBE.5CA67700 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Bill � I�ve had greater success with these plants in New Jersey > indoors than > I�ve had in Arizona indoors. (Never tried growing them outdoors.) > > But here is what they like from the �Sunset Western Garden� book: > > Rich, porous soil and feeding every 7-10 days during growth and > flowering. > > To make sure that they bloom in December, they need cool nights > (50-55 > degrees) and 12-14 hours of darkness in November. > > Ursula Miller > Not a Master Gardener > > -----Original Message----- > From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu > [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of > WFriedr101@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 6:47 AM > To: Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu > Subject: [Arid_gardener] How to carefor christmas catus > > Hello > We just got a Christmas cactus as a present and don't know how to > care for > it. We live in Clearwater Fla. I am asking you because it gets very > hot here > like in Arizona and thought you would have better information about > the > plant in a hot climate. Should we keep it outside in the heat or put > it in > the a/c?Does it need sun or shade ? Any help would be helpful. Thank > You for > your help. My father had several and were beautiful he passed away > last > Christmas Day and would like to remember him at Christmas through > the plant. > Sounds stupid but means a lot to me. Thank You. > > William > Friedrich > > Bill Friedrich > WFriedr@aol.com > > ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2ADBE.5CA67700 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > > charset=3Dwindows-1252"> > > > > > > > > > > >

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> We just got a Christmas cactus as a present and don't know how to > care = > for it. > We live in Clearwater Fla. I am asking you because it gets very hot > here = > like > in Arizona and thought you would have better information about the > plant = > in a > hot climate. Should we keep it outside in the heat or put it in the > = > a/c?Does it > need sun or shade ? Any help would be helpful. Thank You for your > help. = > My > father had several and were beautiful he passed away last Christmas > Day = > and would > like to remember him at Christmas through the plant. Sounds stupid > but = > means a > lot to me. Thank You.
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> = > FAMILY=3DSCRIPT> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand = > ITC";mso-bidi-font-family: > Arial;color:black;background:white'>Bill Friedrich
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> > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2ADBE.5CA67700-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:38:42 -0700 (MST) > To: > From: clariceburke@cs.com > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > When is the best time to prune a fig tree? > My tree is small, only about three years old. > How many main branches shall I leave on it, and how short should > they be cut? > > Thank you for whatever help you may be able to provide. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "Bev Collins" > To: > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:27 -0700 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Converting lawn to desert landscape > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I've just moved from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a > large > turf lawn. I plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for > all the > info available to help me do it right the first time. Is there a > 'best' > time of year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new landscape, > but how > long will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain in the soil? > How long > should I wait after using an herbicide like Roundup before planting > anything? Is it OK to install the new landscape with dicots right > away? Any > other important points that I may have overlooked? How 'bout the > birds we > feed every day - are these herbicides toxic for them? > Bev Collins, El Paso > > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > >

size=3D2>I've = > just moved from=20 > Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf > lawn. I = > plan to=20 > kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info available > to = > help me=20 > do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of > year? = > I'd like=20 > to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how long will the > effects = > of a=20 > monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How long should I wait > after = > using=20 > an herbicide like Roundup before planting anything? Is it OK > to = > install=20 > the new landscape with dicots right away? Any other important points > = > that I may=20 > have overlooked? How 'bout the birds we feed every day - are > these = > > herbicides toxic for them?

size=3D2>Bev = > Collins, El=20 > Paso

> > ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:28:10 -0700 (MST) > To: > From: leumasessej@hotmail.com > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > just when is the right time to cut back grape vines and how much do > you prune them for the best results? > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Reply-To: "Starlene Stewart" > From: "Starlene Stewart" > To: > Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:52:11 -0700 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Seed Catalogs > > I love seed catalogs, and my favorite place to buy seeds is from > Pinetree > Seeds, on the web at www.superseeds.com . I love their prices -- > for > example, Cherry Belle Radishes approx 300 seeds per packet $0.60. > Shipping > for seeds is $1.95 for no matter how many packages of seeds you > order. I > must have ordered around 20 packs last time, and only paid $1.95. > > The only drawback is they are located in Maine and their climate is > very > different than ours. > > Are there any seed catalogs geared specifically toward southwestern > gardening? I'd be interested if anyone knows of one. > > Thanks in advance. > > Starlene Stewart > Maricopa, Arizona > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Reply-To: "Starlene Stewart" > From: "Starlene Stewart" > To: > Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:28:43 -0700 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Birds eating seedlings > > Hi, > > I was late getting my garden started in the fall, had hoped to begin > planting in September but did not get the seeds into the bed until > October > 25th. I foolishly neglected to cover the area with chicken wire as > I have > in the past. I attribute that partly to the fact that we'd just > moved from > the Valley to this area and I just plain forgot. The birds ate > every single > thing that came up, the minute it came up. Why they had to eat *my* > garden > when there are several hundred acres right across the road is beyond > me... > guess mine *tasted* better. :-) So I ordered more seeds and > replanted, > around November 15th, and enclosed the bed with chicken wire. > Speaking of > which, does anyone know of a more economical supplier than Home > Depot? It's > getting expensive at $18.00 for 3' x 50'. One roll was enough for > the four > sides and the two strips across the top. It's not possible for me > to get > into the garden area unless I remove the top strips because the > height is > only 2-3 feet high. > > But the tiniest sparrows are still managing to make their way into > the > garden, squeezing through the one inch openings. Any ideas? In > addition to > the chicken wire, we've tried the fake owl, fake snake and strips > of > aluminum foil. > > I guess my best hope is to find a less expensive supplier of chicken > wire > than Home Depot, put poles in the ground around the garden and > extend the > height so I can get in there without crawling on my belly. My > current > garden is approx 56 square feet and I'm ordering more seeds today, > so I'm > going to need more room quick. > > Running late again... I'm ordering: tomatoes, eggplants, peppers, > bell > peppers to start indoors and hoping to get them out by mid-February, > first > of March at latest. I'm worried though, that the birds are going to > find a > way to eat these up as well once they are transplanted into the > garden. > > So in closing, I guess my questions are: > > Where can I get chicken wire cheaper than Home Depot? > > What else can I do about the birds? > > Anyone else experiencing the same problem? > > Thanks in advance, > > Starlene Stewart > Maricopa, Arizona > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:25:15 -0700 (MST) > To: > From: jweir2@aol.com > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > We just planted some prickly pear cactus that a neighbor gave us. > They were well established before she cut them down. They remained > in her yard (after she cut them down) for over a month before we > planted them. Now that they are in the ground again, what can we do > to help them along? We provided extra support with stakes because > they were drooping over, and we also gave them water....although we > weren't sure how much was appropriate. Please comment. > Can we give them anything else to inspire their recovery and > growth? > > Thank you for your expertise! > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "Beverly French" > To: > Cc: > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:02:43 -0600 > Subject: [Arid_gardener] gardenias blooms and leaves wilting > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > i purchased three gardenia bushes 1 week ago and they were bright > shiny = > foliage and full of buds they are in a southeast window and in this > = > short period of time the plants look wilted and droppy what am i > doing = > to them and what can i do to fix this problem > = > beverly french > = > tahlequah ok. > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >

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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B4B2.5A9E5720-- > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > > > End of Arid_gardener Digest > > Denneen L. Peterson 177 North Church, Suite 808 Tucson, Arizona 85701 520-620-1648; 520-670-1743 (fax); dpete2@juno.com This email contains confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email permanently and notify the sender. From beatrice@extremezone.com Mon Jan 6 18:55:28 2003 From: beatrice@extremezone.com (beatrice@extremezone.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:55:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301061855.h06ItS117487@Ag.arizona.edu> Master Gardener, I'm planting a Brazalian Pepper, 24" container size. How should I care for this tree? Thanks for the help. Regards Bob From cchare@qwest.net Mon Jan 6 19:43:43 2003 From: cchare@qwest.net (cchare@qwest.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:43:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301061943.h06Jhh100127@Ag.arizona.edu> Can we grow razzleberri in Phoenix? If so, what suggestions on its use? Thanks. From popsy97@yahoo.com Mon Jan 6 19:50:18 2003 From: popsy97@yahoo.com (Judy Braden) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:50:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200212302007.gBUK7d103520@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20030106195018.21277.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, if you protect them from frost. --- cupdike@rosepink.com wrote: > Will poinsettias grow outdoors year around in the > Phoenix valley? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From clairecreek@cox.net Mon Jan 6 19:38:58 2003 From: clairecreek@cox.net (clairecreek@cox.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:38:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301061938.h06Jcw129105@Ag.arizona.edu> My 10-year old citrus trees (lemon/grapefruit/mandarin orange) are very wooded and have lost a lot of leaves over time. When I see citrus trees elsewhere, they are full and green. My garden crew fertilizes 2 time per year and adjusts the water according to the temperature/season. The trees get up to an hour of water every day during our hot season. The trees bare fruit, especially the lemon. I want them to look better. Any hints? Thanks. From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 6 22:40:46 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:40:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus tree losing leaves Message-ID: <003a01c2b5d4$a8bdcb20$502c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Your citrus trees are not being watered adequately. Deep watering to a depth of 3 feet once a week during the summer here in the low desert will make a big change in how your trees look. Fertilizing three times a year will also help. Check out this site for more info on watering citrus: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1151.pdf Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: clairecreek@cox.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:54 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >My 10-year old citrus trees (lemon/grapefruit/mandarin orange) are very wooded and have lost a lot of leaves over time. When I see citrus trees elsewhere, they are full and green. My garden crew fertilizes 2 time per year and adjusts the water according to the temperature/season. The trees get up to an hour of water every day during our hot season. The trees bare fruit, especially the lemon. I want them to look better. Any hints? Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 6 22:50:14 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Soil Test labs Message-ID: <004401c2b5d5$fae3f4a0$502c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Check out this site for a list of soil test labs: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/soiltest.htm Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: Dmorty7@msn.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Where can I take soil from my garden for testing & evaluation? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 6 22:46:03 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:46:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Tree Care Message-ID: <003f01c2b5d5$653f3d60$502c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Bob The Master Gardener Manual on Arborculture will answer your questions about tree care and is on line at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: beatrice@extremezone.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Master Gardener, > I'm planting a Brazalian Pepper, 24" container >size. How should I care for this tree? >Thanks for the help. >Regards Bob > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 6 23:07:53 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:07:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pruning Message-ID: <004e01c2b5d8$71fc03a0$502c0a3f@ibmbna6040> The Master Gardener Manual has a chapter on Arborculture with a section on pruning which should answer your questions about pruning and is on line at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: clariceburke@cs.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >When is the best time to prune a fig tree? >My tree is small, only about three years old. >How many main branches shall I leave on it, and how short should they be cut? > >Thank you for whatever help you may be able to provide. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 6 23:37:51 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Roundup use Message-ID: <001101c2b5dc$b6afc3c0$682c0a3f@ibmbna6040> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B5A1.F450E6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bev, Roundup is a foliar applied translocated herbicide which means that it = kills a plant by being absorbed by the leaves or stems and then moves = within the plant to where growth is taking place and interferes with the = growth process. Once the herbicide hits the ground and has dried it is = no longer a danger to the plant. Your desert landscape can be planted = without any danger. Likewise birds would not be affected unless the = herbicide got on their food. In order for the Roundup to be effective the turf must be actively = growing. I suspect that the grass if bermuda is now dormant in El Paso = as it is here in Phoenix. Probably the best time to do the job would be = late April or May provided the grass has greened up and is actively = growing. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: Bev Collins To: Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Converting lawn to desert landscape I've just moved from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a = large turf lawn. I plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for = all the info available to help me do it right the first time. Is there = a 'best' time of year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new = landscape, but how long will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain = in the soil? How long should I wait after using an herbicide like = Roundup before planting anything? Is it OK to install the new landscape = with dicots right away? Any other important points that I may have = overlooked? How 'bout the birds we feed every day - are these = herbicides toxic for them? Bev Collins, El Paso ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B5A1.F450E6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bev,

Roundup is a foliar applied translocated herbicide = which means=20 that it kills a plant by being absorbed by the leaves or stems and then = moves=20 within the plant to where growth is taking place and interferes with the = growth=20 process. Once the herbicide hits the ground and has dried it is no = longer a=20 danger to the plant. Your desert landscape can be planted without any = danger.=20 Likewise birds would not be affected unless the herbicide got on their=20 food.

In order for the Roundup to be effective the turf = must be=20 actively growing. I suspect that the grass if bermuda is now dormant in = El Paso=20 as it is here in Phoenix. Probably the best time to do the job would be = late=20 April or May provided the grass has greened up and is actively=20 growing.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Bev Collins <bkcollins@earthlink.net>To:=20 Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= =20 <Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= >
Date:=20 Monday, January 06, 2003 7:47 AM
Subject: = [Arid_gardener]=20 Converting lawn to desert landscape

I've = just moved=20 from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf = lawn. I=20 plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info = available to=20 help me do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of=20 year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how = long=20 will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How = long=20 should I wait after using an herbicide like Roundup before planting=20 anything? Is it OK to install the new landscape with dicots = right away?=20 Any other important points that I may have overlooked? How 'bout = the=20 birds we feed every day - are these herbicides toxic for=20 them?

Bev = Collins, El=20 Paso

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B5A1.F450E6E0-- From cmjesko@earthlink.net Tue Jan 7 14:32:25 2003 From: cmjesko@earthlink.net (cmjesko@earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 07:32:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301071432.h07EWP100511@Ag.arizona.edu> How much time and how often should I water my plants (hibicus, gardenias, etc.) and how much time and how often should I water my palm trees at this time of the year? From imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 7 00:36:08 2003 From: imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:36:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re:Pomegranate Question References: <200212312225.gBVMPp111189@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <018d01c2b5e5$042b73d0$9853530c@delljor9501> Interesting question. Because our 20-year-old"Wonderful" pomegranates have always been pretty much as you describe. I always thought that was normal and suspect it has to do with the variety We also have a dwarf "Nana" which is similar but smaller. The grey leaf-footed bug is very common on pomegranates that have split. From: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/t-tips/bugs/leaf-ft.htm" Leaf-Footed Bugs in the Low Desert DESCRIPTION: One inch long, dark gray or brown with leaflike enlargements on their hind legs. They closely resemble squash bugs, and give off an odor when handled. The nymphs are bright red and black with less prominent extensions on their hind legs. DAMAGE: They feed on fruits of a number of different plants, including oranges, peaches, pecans, tomatoes and especially pomegranates. They suck the juices out and may carry a bacteria which causes rotting. MANAGEMENT: Destroy any bugs that are found. Immature fruits may be protected by covering with paper bags. ----- Original Message ----- > We ... have a ... "Wonderful" pomegranate about 3 years old, 7ft. high and 5ft. wide. This year we had lots of pomegranates, some as large as a baby's head. The skin was bright red, but when we opened them up (late November, and December), the fruit was pinkish colored and leathery looking. It tasted only mildly sweet. > How can we get pomegranates next year that are bright red and juicy inside? Are we lacking a mineral? Do they need more water during the summer? Is it a disease? > Also as the fruit began to mature, I noticed some very strange looking flying bugs (about 1/2" long) on the fruit. Grayish and slender with a darker diamond on their back. Their back legs had little flags on them. What are these hideous things and how do I protect the fruit from them? From imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 7 00:31:33 2003 From: imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:31:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Birds eating seedlings References: <005201c2b42f$e1907ac0$12893a41@stewart> Message-ID: <018c01c2b5e5$00b511c0$9853530c@delljor9501> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Starlene Stewart" >... > Where can I get chicken wire cheaper than Home Depot? Why not try a floating row cover like ReMay. It works for us on the small birds that seem to like our young lettuce seedlings. But it probably wouldn't work for Quail. > > What else can I do about the birds? Some people say dangling damaged CDs at strategic locations works. Or anything that glitters when in moves in light breezes. Fake owls and snakes don't work for me. The birds like to sit on top of the owls - I reckon the view is better up there. > > Anyone else experiencing the same problem? I believe all of us have the problem to some extent. After all, it's the only tender green available right now. Olin From imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 7 00:36:38 2003 From: imRuhestand@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 17:36:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Seed Catalogs References: <001601c2b42a$c72f7f00$12893a41@stewart> Message-ID: <018e01c2b5e5$058dea00$9853530c@delljor9501> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Starlene Stewart" To: >... > Are there any seed catalogs geared specifically toward southwestern > gardening? I'd be interested if anyone knows of one. Try Native Seeds/SEARCH in Tucson at www.nativeseeds.org or "Plants of the Southwest" in Santa Fe at http://www.plantsofthesouthwest.com/ Might mention that the address of a mail order seed company does not necessarily indicate the seeds were grown there. Most seed companies purchase seeds fro western growers. Olin From tracer821@hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 02:15:15 2003 From: tracer821@hotmail.com (Tracy Mescha) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:15:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Source for Pepper seeds/plants Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2B5B7.F19EE440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there. Anyone interested in growing peppers this year, this is for you. For = 2003 we have 22 different varieties! There is always a bunch of other = vendors with great stuff as well. I sincerely appreciate the advice = from the list these past few months, and am eager to share the bounty! We do the Farmer's Markets: TUES is Fountain Hills-Starts the 13th Saguaro & Shea look for the = signs....Details to come!! FRI is Carefree CaveCreek Rd./Tom Darlington 10-2. SAT. is Roadrunner Pk. 32nd. ST/Cactus 8-12. SUN. is Scottsdale 104th ST. & McDowell Mtn. Ranch Rd. (Near Westworld) = 10-2. I moved from Chicago (of course) in June and discovered my experience as = a computer admin was not quite in demand in the job market, so I went to = my first love of growing hot peppers. I hope you all will come visit! = http://www.southwestchilies.com Tracy ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2B5B7.F19EE440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi there.

Anyone interested in growing peppers = this year,=20 this is for you. For 2003 we have 22 different varieties! = There is=20 always a bunch of other vendors with great stuff as well. I = sincerely=20 appreciate the advice from the list these past few months, and am eager = to share=20 the bounty!

We do the Farmer's = Markets:

TUES is Fountain Hills-Starts the 13th = Saguaro=20 & Shea look for the signs....Details to come!!

FRI is Carefree CaveCreek Rd./Tom = Darlington=20 10-2.

SAT. is Roadrunner Pk. 32nd. = ST/Cactus=20 8-12.

SUN. is Scottsdale 104th ST. = & McDowell=20 Mtn. Ranch Rd. (Near Westworld) 10-2.

I moved from Chicago (of course) in = June and=20 discovered my experience as a computer admin was not quite in demand in = the job=20 market, so I went to my first love of growing hot peppers. I hope = you all=20 will come visit! http://www.southwestchilies.com<= /A>

Tracy

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C2B5B7.F19EE440-- From AZamigo@aol.com Tue Jan 7 06:17:01 2003 From: AZamigo@aol.com (AZamigo@aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:17:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301070617.h076H1108622@Ag.arizona.edu> I live in Tucson and have been having problems over the past couple years with iron deficiencies, poor drainage and overall nasty, alkaline soil. Just today I saw a product in a one gallon jug called "soil acidifier" produced by arizona best. Have any of you had success with this product? thank you. From mriegel@ci.glendale.az.us Tue Jan 7 15:19:02 2003 From: mriegel@ci.glendale.az.us (mriegel@ci.glendale.az.us) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:19:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301071519.h07FJ2109381@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a tangerine tree in my yard in Tempe which is irrigated. This tree puts out a great tangerine that many who have eaten from it have raved about. I would like to create seedlings from this tree so that I can share and propagate the tree. >What is the most successful way to do this ? >I can assure you that I am not skilled enough to attempt grafting so I am hoping for a solution that can create from the seeds from the fruit. This is peak harvest time so a response in the next week would be helpful as I plan to begin harvesting and juicing in earnest within 2 weeks. >Thanks From crymer@Ag.arizona.edu Tue Jan 7 15:38:13 2003 From: crymer@Ag.arizona.edu (Cathy Rymer) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:38:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Secrets of Citrus Revealed! Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030107083322.00ad7bb0@ag.arizona.edu> Ever heard of a Pummelo? What about a Budda's Hand? Not sure when to fertilize your citrus? Why are citrus grafted? Are pink grapefruit really sweeter? All these questions and many, many more will be answered by the University of Arizona faculty and specialists at the annual Citrus and Fruit Clinics held in January. These events are sponsored by Maricopa County Master Gardeners and are designed to help homeowners and others with their questions on citrus culture and maintenance. Dozens of varieties of citrus will be available to taste test. Information on deciduous fruits, grapes, and dates will also be available. Mark your calendar for January 18, 2003 if you live in the east valley, or January 25, 2003 for west side residents. Seminars are given "in the field" at the Greenfield Citrus Nursery in Mesa or the UA Citrus Research Center in Waddell. Details are available from our web page at http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ See you there! Cathy Catherine Rymer Instructional Specialist, Sr., Urban Horticulture University of Arizona Maricopa County Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Phoenix, AZ 85040 http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ From kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu Tue Jan 7 15:30:34 2003 From: kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu (Kathleen Moore) Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 08:30:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Annual/Perennial Flower Class Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030107081929.00a81b40@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_5902905==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Are you getting ready to plant your flower beds? Are you intimidated by all the choices out there? Do you want to learn more about combinations and new varieties? Then come to our fabulous Annuals/Perennials class! Who: Pam Perry, Master Gardener When: January 13, 2003 Where: Maricopa County Cooperative Extension Time: 6:30-9:00 pm Cost: $20 ***CALL (602) 470-8086 x823 to register or if you have questions --=====================_5902905==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Are you getting ready to plant your flower beds? Are you intimidated by all the choices out there? Do you want to learn more about combinations and new varieties?   Then come to our fabulous Annuals/Perennials class!

Who: Pam Perry, Master Gardener
When: January 13, 2003
Where: Maricopa County Cooperative Extension
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***CALL (602) 470-8086 x823 to register or if you have questions --=====================_5902905==_.ALT-- From watsontl@mindspring.com Wed Jan 8 04:03:30 2003 From: watsontl@mindspring.com (Tom & Linda Watson) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:03:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200301070617.h076H1108622@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <002401c2b6ca$e89f05a0$9151b83f@S0029317241> I have not used this product, but have managed to work around the unique qualities of the soil here in Tucson through use of organic amendments and the application of soil sulfur and gypsum. Use of a product called Ironite has helped with the problems of iron availability, which is caused by the alkaline pH of our soil. How exactly you would go about using these materials, or any product designed to address our soil conditions, depends on what you're growing. In other words, tell us what you're growing, and we can be more specific. Our soils have a tremendous buffering capacity, which means that when you alter the pH, conditions will eventually return to normal - meaning alkaline. The soil acidifier is unlikely to permanently change the soil conditions, but then, that's true of all of the above. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:17 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > I live in Tucson and have been having problems over the past couple years with iron deficiencies, poor drainage and overall nasty, alkaline soil. Just today I saw a product in a one gallon jug called "soil acidifier" produced by arizona best. Have any of you had success with this product? thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From ktucker@lsdaz.com Wed Jan 8 01:40:44 2003 From: ktucker@lsdaz.com (ktucker@lsdaz.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:40:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301080140.h081eh124172@Ag.arizona.edu> I have four acacia smallii's in my yard and there a couple that look mostly dead throughout the year. I have kept it trimmed and the branches that never leaf out are dead. I still have leaves on 30% of the tree so I know it is not dead. I would like a suggestion on what I need to do and if that is not possible a name of a good arborist. Thank you From Starlene Stewart" Message-ID: <001201c2b6c3$7366f380$1efe3841@stewart> Thank you everyone for the great suggestions and the wonderful support. Yesterday a friend and I built a floating row cover -- actually an idea I'd gotten from one of my chicken books -- to protect the current garden. We used 2x4s to build a frame, then put legs on to raise it up 18 inches. Then we used every bit of 1" chicken wire I could find around my place and layed the chicken wire on twice, overlapping the holes. Today we watched and several birds tried and tried to get in but couldn't. It will work for the time being, and hopefully in the near future I'll be able to do something more permanent. Thanks again! Happy Gardening! Starlene Stewart Maricopa, Arizona From crymer@Ag.arizona.edu Wed Jan 8 16:30:19 2003 From: crymer@Ag.arizona.edu (Cathy Rymer) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 09:30:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page In-Reply-To: <200301070617.h076H1108622@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030108090058.00afc660@ag.arizona.edu> The soils in the low deserts of the southwest are typically alkaline with a pH of 8 - 8.5. Our water is also salty. You can easily see this by the salty deposits left on the top of the soil around drip emitters, or on the outside of clay planting containers. The high pH limits plant's ability to assimilate nutrients from the soil. The addition of iron (and other fertilizers) to alkaline soils may have little effect if the roots can't absorb it. Soil acidifiers will only temporarily raise the pH if applied to the ground. Soon the salts in our water and surrounding soil will infiltrate and create alkaline conditions. If you are using containers, the pH is much easier to manage. The addition of gypsum, broadcast and watered into the soil a couple times per year, will put the sodium into solution where it can be 'flushed' down away from most feeder roots. This is one reason why we always recommend you water deeply. Soil drainage is usually improved by using gypsum. Soil sulfur will also help to lower the pH in our soils, but it relies on microorganisms in our soil to break it down and takes longer to see results. Remember, our native plants have evolved with alkaline soils and flourish here. There are hundreds of choices available that include varieties from other desert regions of the world that are well adapted to our climate and soils. If you are having problems with ornamental plants - Go Native! Mountain States Wholesale Nursery in Glendale, now has a great web site with and extensive plant database. Although they are wholesale only, the pictures and plant information are a fantastic resource if you are looking for locally grown, desert-adapted plants. http://www.mswn.com/ I hope this helps. Cathy At 11:17 PM 01/06/2003 -0700, AZamigo@aol.com wrote: >I live in Tucson and have been having problems over the past couple years >with iron deficiencies, poor drainage and overall nasty, alkaline >soil. Just today I saw a product in a one gallon jug called "soil >acidifier" produced by arizona best. Have any of you had success with >this product? thank you. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener Catherine Rymer Instructional Specialist, Sr., Urban Horticulture Certified Arborist WC-5216 University of Arizona Maricopa County Cooperative Extension 4341 E. Broadway Phoenix, AZ 85040 http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/maricopa/garden/ From robertwilliams860@hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 21:34:33 2003 From: robertwilliams860@hotmail.com (robertwilliams860@hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:34:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301082134.h08LYX122033@Ag.arizona.edu> My mother bought two Christmas catus in which one of them is doing well and the other is losing it's blooms. I was curious in passing on vital information that would help her take proper care of the plant. She also had a watering question. How often do you water and what is the best climate to keep them in? Thank you, Robert Williams From rollinghome@aol.com Thu Jan 9 03:07:43 2003 From: rollinghome@aol.com (rollinghome@aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:07:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301090307.h0937h119362@Ag.arizona.edu> The leaves of my tangerine tree are curled. It has never borne fruit. What shall I do? From belaire@qwest.net Thu Jan 9 16:33:24 2003 From: belaire@qwest.net (belaire@qwest.net) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:33:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301091633.h09GXO120142@Ag.arizona.edu> What is the proper way to prune Mulberry Trees back? Where should the cuts be made? I assume now is the right time of the year to do this. Thanks, Jerry From KhaSan@aol.com Thu Jan 9 16:29:46 2003 From: KhaSan@aol.com (KhaSan@aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:29:46 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Vietnamese herb Message-ID: <181.14ee43c5.2b4efd7a@aol.com> --part1_181.14ee43c5.2b4efd7a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I am looking for the good website of Vietnamese herb-garden. 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www.thegardendistrict.org --part1_181.14ee43c5.2b4efd7a_boundary-- From plantperson@prodigy.net Thu Jan 9 17:36:25 2003 From: plantperson@prodigy.net (plantperson) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:36:25 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Christmas Cactus Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030109103602.00b00b30@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_8190781==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed CHRISTMAS (Zygocactus truncatus), or THANKSGIVING (Schlumbergera truncatus) CACTUS The Christmas cactus is a sensational plant when in bloom for the holiday season---if it blooms. It can be grown with success, but it requires a bit of "watching". The ideal soil for a Christmas cactus is composed of equal parts of garden loam, leaf mold and clean coarse sand (not from the seashore). Add a quart of wood ashes per bushel of mixture. If the soil is poor add 1/10 part of composted cow manure. Most of us however don't have the luxury of mixing our own soil, but if your Christmas cactus isn't doing well you might try repotting it in this mix. The Christmas cactus does not like direct summer sun. If you want to grow it indoors in a south or west window you should shade the plant with curtains. The broken shade of a porch or patio is ideal. Or plunge the pot into a shady spot in the garden during the summer months. This plant needs shading from the sun between May and September. Unlike the prickly members of the cactus family, Christmas cactus is not a dry soil plant that you can neglect for weeks. It can be drier during Feb/March.....right after flowering, but water it like other houseplants at other times of the year. During the pre-flowering period of mid-September to mid-November keep it dryish and cool until flower buds form. Then increase water and temperature. I leave mine outdoors until nights are down to 50 and the buds have formed. Water normally during the flowering period of mid-November through mid-January with a minimum temperature of 55 degrees. After flowering it needs a rest period, keep it cool (55 degrees) and water infrequently. During April and May water it thoroughly whenever the soil begins to dry out. June, July and August is a good time to put it outdoors in that shady spot and start the cycle all over again! Fertilize your plant only when it is actively growing, and propagate by taking cuttings from recently matured stems or shoots when the plant is not in flower. Maybe a little bit of watching is involved in taking care of your cactus, but seeing it burst into bloom during the holiday season is worth the time and effort it takes. --=====================_8190781==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CHRISTMAS (Zygocactus truncatus), or THANKSGIVING (Schlumbergera truncatus) CACTUS

The Christmas cactus = is a sensational plant when in bloom for the holiday season---if it blooms. It can be grown with success, but it requires a bit of "watching".

The ideal soil for a Christmas cactus is composed of equal parts of garden loam, leaf mold and clean coarse sand (not from the seashore). Add a quart of wood ashes per bushel of mixture. If the soil is poor add 1/10 part of composted cow manure. Most of us however don't have the luxury of mixing our own soil, but if your Christmas cactus isn't doing well you might try repotting it in this mix. The Christmas cactus does not like direct summer sun. If you want to grow it indoors in a south or west window you should shade the plant with curtains. The broken shade of a porch or patio is ideal. Or plunge the pot into a shady spot in the garden during the summer months. This plant needs shading from the sun between May and September. Unlike the prickly members of the cactus family, Christmas cactus is not a dry soil plant that you can neglect for weeks. It can be drier during Feb/March.....right after flowering, but water it like other houseplants at other times of the year. During the pre-flowering period of mid-September to mid-November keep it dryish and cool until flower buds form. Then increase water and temperature. I leave mine outdoors until nights are down to 50 and the buds have formed. Water normally during the flowering period of mid-November through mid-January with a minimum temperature of 55 degrees. After flowering it needs a rest period, keep it cool (55 degrees) and water infrequently. During April and May water it thoroughly whenever the soil begins to dry out. June, July and August is a good time to put it outdoors in that shady spot and start the cycle all over again! Fertilize your plant only when it is actively growing, and propagate by taking cuttings from recently matured stems or shoots when the plant is not in flower. Maybe a little bit of watching is involved in taking care of your cactus, but seeing it burst into bloom during the holiday season is worth the time and effort it takes.
--=====================_8190781==_.ALT-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Thu Jan 9 22:22:16 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <00c501c2b82d$91e15ce0$241d0a3f@ibmbna6040> Citrus trees do not typically bear fruit until they are four to five years old. The curling leaves are no doubt caused by an insect called thrips. If so don't worry, the damage is only cosmetic and will do little harm. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: rollinghome@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >The leaves of my tangerine tree are curled. It has never borne fruit. What shall I do? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Thu Jan 9 22:11:54 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:11:54 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <008a01c2b82c$1f8cfb00$241d0a3f@ibmbna6040> Jerry If you are asking about the pruning technique called pollarding where the Mulberry branches are cut back to stubs, the answer is that it is not a recommended practice. The life of the tree will be shortened greatly and the tree becomes very susectable to disease especially sooty canker which can be deadly. Besides it looks ugly. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist -----Original Message----- From: belaire@qwest.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >What is the proper way to prune Mulberry Trees back? Where should the cuts be made? I assume now is the right time of the year to do this. > >Thanks, >Jerry > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From yulemom@mvdsl.com Fri Jan 10 00:42:02 2003 From: yulemom@mvdsl.com (Robin) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:42:02 -0800 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Raspberries/blackberries References: <00c501c2b82d$91e15ce0$241d0a3f@ibmbna6040> Message-ID: <002d01c2b841$1780d7a0$03081fac@lvcm.com> Recently, I spotted Raspberry and blackberry plants at our local hardware in Overton NV, one hour north of Vegas. We have just moved to our 3 acre home here and are curious as to how well these bushes will do in this climate. I'd love to plant some, but cannot find them mentioned in the book I have about desert gardening. Can anyone tell me what they need? Thank you, Robin Yule From Dragonjanie@austin.rr.com Fri Jan 10 01:03:08 2003 From: Dragonjanie@austin.rr.com (Janie Branch) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:03:08 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <000801c2b844$0c34d0b0$ba821942@JanieinAustin> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B811.BF597160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too sprouted some lemon seeds and have a beautiful six foot tree which = will be seven years old in February. It outgrew every container and now = has been in the front yard for over a year. Although healthy in = appearance, it has never flowered, so naturally also has not produced = any fruit. What can I do for it? Thanks, Janie Branch ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2B811.BF597160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I too sprouted some lemon seeds and = have a=20 beautiful six foot tree which will be seven years old in February. It = outgrew=20 every container and now has been in the front yard for over a year. = Although=20 healthy in appearance, it has never flowered, so naturally also has not = produced=20 any fruit. What can I do for it?

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From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Sat Jan 11 03:07:19 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] browning tipu tree Message-ID: <003301c2b91e$8eb9e4a0$b12c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Tom, The Tipu tree is only hardy down to 25 degrees F so it probably has been burned by the frost. Since AJ is somewhat colder than the Phoenix area I would suggest that you cover the tree and wrap the trunk if you have more freezing temps. The tree is classed as simi evergreen which means that it will probably drop its leaves. If you look around you will see that the leaves on most trees are a lighter green in color this time of year because of the trees inability to take up nitrogen from the cold soil. Sounds like you are on target with your watering. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Homans To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:33 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] browning tipu tree >This is the first winter that I've spent in the PHX valley (Apache Jct) in >my new home, and am wondering what a 24" box Tipu tree should look like in >the winter. It was planted just 3 1/2 months ago, and looked good until the >temps dropped. The leaves on it are now browned around the edges, the rest >have faded to a light green. Is this typical for a Tipu this time of year, >or are the brown edges an indicator that I'm not watering enough? Early >December, when the temps dropped, I backed off of watering it to once a >week, to a depth of 2-3 feet. I know it's a moderate water user, and the >tree being a new transplant needs more water than established ones, but I >thought with the drop in temps that I could slack off a little. Please >advise. > >thanks >tom > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From celesmth@ev1.net Sat Jan 11 12:45:19 2003 From: celesmth@ev1.net (celesmth@ev1.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 05:45:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301111245.h0BCjJ100336@Ag.arizona.edu> proper way to prune a lemon tree which has not been pruned properly--- how much to remove the first time --- will it take a few years to get back in shape ---- what length of limb to remove --- when should this be done From bjkfrog@earthlink.net Sat Jan 11 17:51:34 2003 From: bjkfrog@earthlink.net (Barbara Knutsen) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] earthworms Message-ID: <3E2059A6.825753CA@earthlink.net> My husband and I have lived in our home for over 30 years and never experienced what we did this past Wednesday. We'd like to know if there is a need for concern. After it rained, thousands of earthworms ended up on our patio, brick, cook deck, crawling through our security door screen, up our AC unit, up the walls and under the smallest crack through our arcadia doors. Why NOW? After all these years, rains, and now this invasion of worms? They were long, not as fat as a regular garden worm and one end looked reddish. Is this a certain kind of worm or just young earth worms? Why would they come out by the thousands?? Looking forward to your reply. Mr. and Mrs. K From azjellery@hotmail.com Sat Jan 11 18:50:14 2003 From: azjellery@hotmail.com (azjellery@hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:50:14 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301111850.h0BIoE124586@Ag.arizona.edu> We have two museum palo verde trees. They are losing some leaves at this time (January) and I was wondering if this is seasonal or if there is something I need to do. Thanks for your help. From srkelz@cox.net Sun Jan 12 05:34:50 2003 From: srkelz@cox.net (srkelz@cox.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:34:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301120534.h0C5Yo114519@Ag.arizona.edu> I'd like to plant some native trees and plants in my eastern exposure front yard, however my neighbor has a huge pine tree that blocks all winter sun. What do you suggest? Also, do I absolutely need to install drip irrigation if I use native plants? I'm on a tight budget, and I'm wondering if I could just get the plants established and then trust mother nature in a few years. Thanks for your help. From Char_Thompson@netzero.net Sun Jan 12 21:16:04 2003 From: Char_Thompson@netzero.net (Char_Thompson@netzero.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:16:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301122116.h0CLG4101528@Ag.arizona.edu> When should I prune my grape vine? It is already showing signs of new growth and green shoots. From pleithead@cox.net Sun Jan 12 21:33:50 2003 From: pleithead@cox.net (pleithead@cox.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:33:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301122133.h0CLXo102933@Ag.arizona.edu> HELP!! Does anyone have any information as to what gardening flowers havalinas will NOT eat or what I can do so that they do not eat our potted flowers around the house. Appreciate any advice! Pc From lbradley@sisna.com Tue Jan 14 06:17:11 2003 From: lbradley@sisna.com (Lucy Bradley) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:17:11 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Australia Day at Boyce Thompson Jan. 25 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030113231614.032927b8@ag.arizona.edu> We'll have a "build your own didjeridoo" class at the Arboretum on jan. 25 during our annual Australia Day event. pre-registration's required for the class, other events of the day are free. details are at: http://ag.arizona.edu/btaevents/australiaday.html ~paul wolterbeek volunteer program coordinator boyce thompson arboretum _____________ Australia Day Jan. 25 at Boyce Thompson Arboretum A visit to the land Down Under is closer than you might think. Enjoy Outback storytelling, a tour of the towering 100-foot tall Eucalyptus Forest - and even a didjeridoo class! - as Boyce Thompson Arboretum State Park celebrates Australia Day. The arboretum is home to one of North America's largest collections of Australian plants. And Australia Day gives the Arboretum a chance to showcase the Australian walkabout trail and trees such as majestic "Mr. Big," the 140-foot tall with an eight-foot girth. In addition, Australian folklorist Paul Taylor will again visit the arboretum to share his bush ballads, Outback poems and haunting didjeridoo music to transport audience to his native Australia. As much fun to say as to play: didjeridoo workshop Jan. 25 Participants are invited to build and learn to play their own didjeridoos at a Jan. 25 workshop that coincides with the annual Australia Day festival at Boyce Thompson Arboretum. The unique class in this growling, howling indigenous instrument runs from 9-11:30 and the cost is $35 ($25 to Friends of the Arboretum annual members). Pre-registration is required; please call (520)689-5248 to enroll. Other events of the Australia Day celebration last from 11-3 and include outback storytelling from Paul "Walking Stick" Taylor, tours of the Australian Forest and the opportunity to learn about the collection of 450 different species from the Land Down Under that can be found here in Arizona, encompassed within Boyce Thompson Arboretum's impressive taxonomy list. Probably the best known individual of all these is Mr. Big, a 144 foot tall, 6'10" wide River Red Gum tree that was planted in 1926. Boyce Thompson Arboretum is located at Highway 60 milepost 223, a drive of only 45 minutes east of Mesa. The Arboretum is open from 8 a.m.-5 p.m. daily and admission is $6 for adults and $3 for kids age 5-12. For other information call (520)689-2811 or visit the website: http://arboretum.ag.arizona.edu From jmulcahy@peoriaud.k12.az.us Tue Jan 14 15:29:28 2003 From: jmulcahy@peoriaud.k12.az.us (jmulcahy@peoriaud.k12.az.us) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:29:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301141529.h0EFTS101131@Ag.arizona.edu> One of the teachers at our school--Peoria High School--says that her oranges have gradually become wringled over the years. She currently has a Arizona Sweet that has all wringled fruit. The tree is at least 11 years old. I am guessing that the root stock took over, but could it be something else? Please let us know. From ag193050@aol.com Tue Jan 14 16:05:49 2003 From: ag193050@aol.com (ag193050@aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:05:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301141605.h0EG5n108802@Ag.arizona.edu> We have a typical gravel rear yard with limited landscape material. Every morning, large areas of the gravel are a darker pink color as if they were wet. I have checked our irrigation system and cannot find any leaks. Much of the darker colored gravel is located in areas that do not have any irrigation. Is this a natural phenominum or should I be concerned that there is a water source somewhere that is causing this. We are located on the northwest side in Sun City Grand. Our soil is the typical stuff that is hard as a rock but gets mushy when wet. Any ideas? From jameselder2@cox.net Tue Jan 14 16:46:12 2003 From: jameselder2@cox.net (jameselder2@cox.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:46:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301141646.h0EGkC118055@Ag.arizona.edu> My lemon trees leaves turned yellow and dropped off. However a branch near the bottom is sporting a nice set of green leaves. What has happen and what should I do? Thanks for your advice. I live in Peoria north of Union Hills and between 83 and 91 avenues. From carrizzo@astoriahomes.com Tue Jan 14 17:56:46 2003 From: carrizzo@astoriahomes.com (Audrey Carrizzo) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:56:46 -0800 Subject: [Arid_gardener] West Wall Trees? Message-ID: <425B21E4132DC14B9EC96FBC5CF0A6716EF8FE@exchange.astoriahomes.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BBF6.4E2C163A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C2BBF6.4E2C163A" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C2BBF6.4E2C163A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My yard is wide (north and south) and short east and west. A horse-shoe throw runs the length of the yard, and there is about a three foot area directly behind it before the west facing 6' block wall starts. Currently there are very sad Oleander plants growing (leggy and not very attractive)... However, I would like to remove them and possibly replace them with either pines, plum trees, or something else that would extend past the height of the 6' wall, not infringe on my neighbor directly behind the wall and not cause any structural damage to either the wall or to either properties. The plants have to withstand the 100+ heat and west wall heat that our Las Vegas climate has to offer as well as the almost (and sometimes) freezing weather that our winters often offer. =20 Oh, and they should be attractive.... Any suggestions? ------_=_NextPart_002_01C2BBF6.4E2C163A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My yard is wide (north and south) and short east and = west. A horse-shoe throw runs the length of the yard, and there is about a = three foot area directly behind it before the west facing 6’ block wall starts. Currently there are very sad Oleander plants growing = (leggy and not very attractive)… However, I would like to remove them and = possibly replace them with either pines, plum trees, or something else that would = extend past the height of the 6’ wall, not infringe on my neighbor = directly behind the wall and not cause any structural damage to either the wall = or to either properties. The plants have to withstand the 100+ heat and = west wall heat that our Las Vegas climate has to offer as = well as the almost (and sometimes) freezing weather that our winters often offer. =

Oh, and they should be attractive…. Any = suggestions?

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From pamkutney@qwest.net Tue Jan 14 21:10:27 2003 From: pamkutney@qwest.net (pamkutney@qwest.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:10:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301142110.h0ELAR123433@Ag.arizona.edu> A mesquite we had planted was blown partly over for the 3rd time in 2 years, so we cut it down and removed the stump. I am thinking of replacing it with an ironwood or a littleleaf palo verde. We live in Anthem, and the tree is on the northern side of the house, getting partial sun in the winter and full sun in the summer. It is on a drip system. Is this as good a time as any to put in the replacement? Or should we wait? From Kalinaknows@yahoo.com Wed Jan 15 00:43:08 2003 From: Kalinaknows@yahoo.com (Kalinaknows@yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:43:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301150043.h0F0h8112242@Ag.arizona.edu> When should my citrus trees be pruned? How much? From llj@camalott.com Wed Jan 15 05:14:55 2003 From: llj@camalott.com (LLJ) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:14:55 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Persimmon Tree Message-ID: <005801c2bc55$0c316140$5d72c941@camalott.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C2BC22.C0613060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I want to buy a friend who lives in Arizona a Persimmon Tree to add to = his garden for his birthday. Can you recommend a nursery in the = Tucson or Phoenix area that might be able to help me with this project? = Would this be the right time for planting? =20 Thank you , Louise ------------------------- I found your email address on this website while I was surfing. http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-January/003068.html ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C2BC22.C0613060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I want to buy a friend who lives in Arizona a = Persimmon=20 Tree to add to his garden for his birthday. Can = you=20 recommend a nursery in the Tucson or Phoenix area that might be able to = help me=20 with this project? Would this be the right time for=20 planting?

Thank you ,

Louise

-------------------------

I found your email address on this website while I = was=20 surfing.

http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-January/003068.= html

------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C2BC22.C0613060-- From Dragonjanie@austin.rr.com Sat Jan 11 00:58:24 2003 From: Dragonjanie@austin.rr.com (Janie Branch) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:58:24 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <00a801c2b90c$8b388b40$ba821942@JanieinAustin> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2B8DA.407F2190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, thanks for a great reply and so prompt too. I only know a Lakota = rain dance my Grandmother taught me. I have used Miracle Grow for Citrus = per directions for two years now, so I guess I'll just continue to be = patient. Love your sense of humor and thanks again for your help. Janie ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2B8DA.407F2190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mark, thanks for a great reply and so = prompt too. I=20 only know a Lakota rain dance my Grandmother taught me. I have used = Miracle Grow=20 for Citrus per directions for two years now, so I guess I'll just = continue to be=20 patient. Love your sense of humor and thanks again for your = help.

Janie

------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01C2B8DA.407F2190-- From stevendrew@mindspring.com Wed Jan 15 15:30:45 2003 From: stevendrew@mindspring.com (Steven C. Drew) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:30:45 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Reply to Tipu Tree Message-ID: <002301c2bcab$134d55a0$4eca56d1@Global> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2BC70.65D06370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, I have a Tipu Tree and live in a very cold area outside of Queen Creek = and my tree has not had any frost damage this year or any for the last = three years. Tipu's do tend to look kind of raggedy this time of year = but will perk up in the spring and display some inconspicuous yellow = flowers. There are some Tipu trees planted in the road median between Pioneer = Park and the Temple on Main street in Mesa and the parking lot of the = Lowe's at Gilbert and Warner in Chandler. You can look at these = specimens and sort of get an idea of what yours looks like compared to = these. But don't worry too much, this summer your tree will probably = grow like crazy. The trunk is very soft and I had problems with the cat using it as a = scratching post so I put some hardware cloth around it for protection.=20 The Tipu sports branches in a very unorganized fashion and up close can = look pretty weird, but this is the style and try not to prune too much.=20 Good luck and congratulations on a wonderful choice for a tree. Steve Drew Tom wrote: This is the first winter that I've spent in the PHX valley (Apache Jct) = in=20 my new home, and am wondering what a 24" box Tipu tree should look like = in=20 the winter. It was planted just 3 1/2 months ago, and looked good until = the=20 temps dropped. The leaves on it are now browned around the edges, the = rest=20 have faded to a light green. Is this typical for a Tipu this time of = year,=20 or are the brown edges an indicator that I'm not watering enough? Early = December, when the temps dropped, I backed off of watering it to once a=20 week, to a depth of 2-3 feet. I know it's a moderate water user, and = the=20 tree being a new transplant needs more water than established ones, but = I=20 thought with the drop in temps that I could slack off a little. Please=20 advise. thanks tom ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2BC70.65D06370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tom,

I have a Tipu Tree and live in a very = cold area=20 outside of Queen Creek and my tree has not had any frost damage this = year or any=20 for the last three years. Tipu's do tend to look kind of raggedy = this time=20 of year but will perk up in the spring and display some inconspicuous = yellow=20 flowers.

There are some Tipu trees planted in = the road=20 median between Pioneer Park and the Temple on Main street in Mesa and = the=20 parking lot of the Lowe's at Gilbert and Warner in Chandler. You can = look at=20 these specimens and sort of get an idea of what yours looks like = compared to=20 these. But don't worry too much, this summer your tree will = probably grow=20 like crazy.

The trunk is very soft and I had = problems with the=20 cat using it as a scratching post so I put some hardware cloth = around it=20 for protection.

The Tipu sports branches in a very = unorganized=20 fashion and up close can look pretty weird, but this is the style and = try not to=20 prune too much.

Good luck and congratulations on a = wonderful choice=20 for a tree.

Steve Drew

Tom wrote:

This is the=20 first winter that I've spent in the PHX valley (Apache Jct) in
my = new home,=20 and am wondering what a 24" box Tipu tree should look like in
the=20 winter. It was planted just 3 1/2 months ago, and looked good = until the=20
temps dropped. The leaves on it are now browned around the = edges, the=20 rest
have faded to a light green. Is this typical for a Tipu = this time=20 of year,
or are the brown edges an indicator that I'm not watering=20 enough? Early
December, when the temps dropped, I backed off = of=20 watering it to once a
week, to a depth of 2-3 feet. I know = it's a=20 moderate water user, and the
tree being a new transplant needs more = water=20 than established ones, but I
thought with the drop in temps that I = could=20 slack off a little. Please=20
advise.

thanks
tom

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2BC70.65D06370-- From kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu Wed Jan 15 16:20:40 2003 From: kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu (Kathleen Moore) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus Clinics Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030115091715.00b8da70@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_1823674==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Don't miss out on our exciting Citrus Clinics one is THIS Saturday and one is next. East Valley Citrus Clinic held at the Greenfield Citrus Nursery 2558 E. Lehi Rd., Mesa Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Northwest Valley Citrus Clinic held at the Citrus Agricultural Center Waddell, Arizona (see map on reverse) Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. Speakers from the University of Arizona and local experts will give half hour presentations on: Citrus pest management Citrus Fertilization and Irrigation Disease Management Pruning Citrus and Deciduous Fruit Trees Low-Chill Deciduous Fruit Varieties "Taste Testing" of Citrus Varieties Planting Citrus, and much more! $5.00 admission advance purchase $8.00 admission at the gate Rain or Shine! For more information call (602) 470-1556 press 304 --=====================_1823674==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Don't miss out on our exciting Citrus Clinics one is THIS Saturday and one is next.

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Saturday, January 18, 2003
8:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.

Northwest Valley Citrus Clinic
held at the
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Waddell, Arizona
(see map on reverse)
Saturday, January 25, 2003
8:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.

Speakers from the University of Arizona and local experts will give half hour presentations on:

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Pruning Citrus and Deciduous Fruit Trees
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(602) 470-1556 press 304 --=====================_1823674==_.ALT-- From cenalmor@yahoo.com Wed Jan 15 15:52:35 2003 From: cenalmor@yahoo.com (Barbara Cenalmor) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:52:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Persimmon Tree In-Reply-To: <005801c2bc55$0c316140$5d72c941@camalott.com> Message-ID: <20030115155235.12683.qmail@web41308.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1430801767-1042645955=:11415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just last week I called around to see which nurseries would get Persimmon trees, and I found out that Bakers (in Phoenix) would, and I believe they just got their new shipment of trees. Barbara LLJ wrote:Hello, I want to buy a friend who lives in Arizona a Persimmon Tree to add to his garden for his birthday. Can you recommend a nursery in the Tucson or Phoenix area that might be able to help me with this project? Would this be the right time for planting? Thank you , Louise ------------------------- I found your email address on this website while I was surfing. http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-January/003068.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-1430801767-1042645955=:11415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Just last week I called around to see which nurseries would get Persimmon trees, and I found out that Bakers (in Phoenix) would, and I believe they just got their new shipment of trees.

Barbara

LLJ <llj@camalott.com> wrote:

Hello,

I want to buy a friend who lives in Arizona a Persimmon Tree to add to his garden for his birthday. Can you recommend a nursery in the Tucson or Phoenix area that might be able to help me with this project? Would this be the right time for planting?

Thank you ,

Louise

-------------------------

I found your email address on this website while I was surfing.

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Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-1430801767-1042645955=:11415-- From 4landm@cox.net Wed Jan 15 18:44:34 2003 From: 4landm@cox.net (Lee and Myrna) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:44:34 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <002601c2bcc6$262e24e0$79246244@ph.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2BC8B.79ADBB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a lavender that appears healthy on one side and wilting on the = other! Is this common? I also have a 4th of July Rose starting it's = 2nd year in about 4 months. Do I need to prune or anything else at this = time? Lee ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2BC8B.79ADBB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a lavender that = appears=20 healthy on one side and wilting on the other! Is this = common? I also=20 have a 4th of July Rose starting it's 2nd year in about 4 months. = Do I=20 need to prune or anything else at this time?

Lee

------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2BC8B.79ADBB20-- From Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com Wed Jan 15 19:03:24 2003 From: Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com (Zelhart Alan-rpcs30) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:03:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B993070468B865@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BCC8.C7B7F2BC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Lee, I generally just prune 4th of July to keep it in the area I want it in. Also I prune out any twiggy growth, and dead twiggy growth or canes. If it's not taking up space you don't want it invading, I would leave it alone. Training the canes horizontally will provide you with more lateral shoots, resulting in more blooms. Chat with you later, Alan -- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-list owner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- When you kill a bug, ten more come for the funeral -----Original Message----- From: Lee and Myrna [mailto:4landm@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:45 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) I have a lavender that appears healthy on one side and wilting on the other! Is this common? I also have a 4th of July Rose starting it's 2nd year in about 4 months. Do I need to prune or anything else at this time? Lee ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BCC8.C7B7F2BC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Lee,

I generally just prune 4th of July to keep it in the area I want it in. Also I prune out any twiggy growth, and dead twiggy growth or canes. If it's not taking up space you don't want it invading, I would leave it alone. Training the canes horizontally will provide you with more lateral shoots, resulting in more blooms.

Chat with you later,
Alan
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http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html
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When you kill a bug, ten more come for the funeral

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I have a lavender that appears healthy on one side and wilting on the other! Is this common? I also have a 4th of July Rose starting it's 2nd year in about 4 months. Do I need to prune or anything else at this time?

Lee

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BCC8.C7B7F2BC-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 15 22:19:02 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:19:02 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus Trees, Pruning Message-ID: <004d01c2bce4$320a5ae0$4931db43@ibmbna6040> Citrus trees should not be pruned except to remove dead wood, crossing branches, wayward growth and any suckers that grow from beneath the graft. Removing anything that shades the trunk or branches will allow the tree to sunburn which could be the start of the trees demise especially if the trunk is sunburned. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: celesmth@ev1.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >proper way to prune a lemon tree which has not been pruned properly--- how much to remove the first time --- will it take a few years to get back in shape ---- what length of limb to remove --- when should this be done > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 15 22:21:06 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:21:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pruning Citrus Message-ID: <005401c2bce4$6702d740$4931db43@ibmbna6040> Citrus trees should not be pruned except to remove dead wood, crossing branches, wayward growth and any suckers that grow from beneath the graft. Removing anything that shades the trunk or branches will allow the tree to sunburn which could be the start of the trees demise especially if the trunk is sunburned. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: Kalinaknows@yahoo.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >When should my citrus trees be pruned? How much? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 15 22:23:53 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:23:53 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <005d01c2bce4$cbbfb860$4931db43@ibmbna6040> Leaf drop is a seasonal thing with Palo Verde trees, do not be concerned. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: azjellery@hotmail.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >We have two museum palo verde trees. They are losing some leaves at this time (January) and I was wondering if this is seasonal or if there is something I need to do. Thanks for your help. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 15 22:29:33 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:29:33 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus with wrinkled rinds Message-ID: <006401c2bce5$95166240$4931db43@ibmbna6040> I suspect that the root stock has taken over on your teachers orange tree. This can be confirmed by tasting the fruit when the oranges should be ripe. If the fruit is very sour then the sour orange roots stock has taken over. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: jmulcahy@peoriaud.k12.az.us To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >One of the teachers at our school--Peoria High School--says that her oranges have gradually become wringled over the years. She currently has a Arizona Sweet that has all wringled fruit. The tree is at least 11 years old. I am guessing that the root stock took over, but could it be something else? Please let us know. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 15 22:38:38 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Planting Desert Adapted Trees Message-ID: <006b01c2bce6$d9f35ca0$4931db43@ibmbna6040> This will be a good time of year to plant your Ironwood or Palo Verde trees. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: pamkutney@qwest.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:59 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >A mesquite we had planted was blown partly over for the 3rd time in 2 years, so we cut it down and removed the stump. I am thinking of replacing it with an ironwood or a littleleaf palo verde. We live in Anthem, and the tree is on the northern side of the house, getting partial sun in the winter and full sun in the summer. It is on a drip system. Is this as good a time as any to put in the replacement? Or should we wait? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From lindaguy@qwest.net Thu Jan 16 14:39:16 2003 From: lindaguy@qwest.net (Linda Guy) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:39:16 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: lime question] Message-ID: <3E26C414.4080706@qwest.net> --------------030803020801040008040607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please reply to gentleman. I'm laid up with a back injury. Thanks. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: lime question Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:42:49 -0700 From: "Clickbox Pro" To: lindaguy@qwest.net Hello, We have a lime tree in our backyard in Mesa, Arizona. It was planted about 8 months ago... it has been doing well, is now about 7 feet tall. Just recently I have noticed the leaves are starting to turn yellow. It begins with the distal tip of the leaf, then the entire leaf will turn yellow. What do you think this indicates?? Could it be too much water? Not enough?? Is it just because it is now winter?? Thanks John Lekas Clickbox Productions www.clickboxpro.com john@clickboxpro.com --------------030803020801040008040607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please reply to gentleman. I'm laid up with a back injury. Thanks.

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Subject:	lime question
Date:	Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:42:49 -0700
From:	"Clickbox Pro" <john@clickboxpro.com>
To:	lindaguy@qwest.net

Hello,

We have a lime tree in our backyard in Mesa, Arizona. It was planted about 8 months ago... it has been doing well, is now about 7 feet tall. Just recently I have noticed the leaves are starting to turn yellow. It begins with the distal tip of the leaf, then the entire leaf will turn yellow.

What do you think this indicates?? Could it be too much water? Not enough?? Is it just because it is now winter??

Thanks

John Lekas
Clickbox Productions
www.clickboxpro.com
john@clickboxpro.com

--------------030803020801040008040607-- From tedrea3@cox.net Thu Jan 16 16:42:30 2003 From: tedrea3@cox.net (tedrea3@cox.net) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:42:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301161642.h0GGgU118042@Ag.arizona.edu> Help: Our navel orange and grapefruit trees have curly leaves. The leaves are not yellow or brown, regular color green but are all curly. What is wrong and how can we correct it. We live in Surprise if that is any help. From ASUsped@aol.com Thu Jan 16 17:17:08 2003 From: ASUsped@aol.com (ASUsped@aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:17:08 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fish Emulsion and bad smell Message-ID: <75.75efc69.2b584314@aol.com> I applied fish emulsion to my climbing rose last week and the horrible fishy smell is still out there; every time I go outside I could smell it. I know it is one of the best organic fertilizers for roses but the smell, my god, it's like you are in a fish market,,,LOL !!!! I used "Alaska Fish Fertilizer" : All purpose-deodorized fish emulsion. If it says "DEODORIZED," why do I smell it? What's the best deodorized one?........thank you, Mike From gizmoaz@cox.net Thu Jan 16 17:17:20 2003 From: gizmoaz@cox.net (gizmoaz@cox.net) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <20030116171720.JIWQ327.fed1mtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Hi Ted, Curly leaves are generally caused by thrips. It is purely cosmetic, and will not hurt your tree, or it's fruit production. Chat with you later, Alan -- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-list owner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- He who laughs last, thinks slowest > > From: tedrea3@cox.net > Date: 2003/01/16 Thu AM 11:42:30 EST > To: > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > Help: Our navel orange and grapefruit trees have curly leaves. The leaves are not yellow or brown, regular color green but are all curly. What is wrong and how can we correct it. We live in Surprise if that is any help. > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From judi@ww-web.com Fri Jan 17 03:42:18 2003 From: judi@ww-web.com (judi@ww-web.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:42:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301170342.h0H3gI105581@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a Dwarf Pomegranate (punica granatum 'Nana') that I planted in a large pot approximately 3 months ago. It has done very well until the last few weeks when the leaves began turning yellow and falling off. Is this to be expected for this plant at this time of year (winter) or should I be worried? If this is normal how should I care for it in terms of feeding and watering at this time of year? From Garys48306@aol.com Fri Jan 17 16:45:24 2003 From: Garys48306@aol.com (Garys48306@aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:45:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301171645.h0HGjO107345@Ag.arizona.edu> I belong to a Civitan service club, Tri City Civitan, and as a community project we do monthly gardening at the Otto and Edna Neeley Hospice House in their meditation garden. The Hospice is located at 487 W. Elliot Rd. in Gilbert. We did not put in the landscaping but have taken care of the area for the last two years. We are now in need of someone to come in and say "take out this plant, redo this area, try this, etc." We are expert laborers, but no one in our Club has the gardening expertise needed to make the garden more inviting. My request is for a master gardener to come out to the Neeley House, look at what has been planted and to give us advice on what to do with the area. We meet the first Saturday of every month at the facility. Our next work day will be February 1st. I can be contacted via email or my home phone is 480 967-1064. We would appreciate any help you would be able to provide. From roses770@msn.com Fri Jan 17 18:27:00 2003 From: roses770@msn.com (roses770@msn.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:27:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301171827.h0HIR0100623@Ag.arizona.edu> a week ago i planted an extra dwarf anna apple. It is showing pink buds already, and i would like to move it to a better spot in the garden. will this cause deadly harm to do this? (2) are the small purpleleaf flowering plum trees commonly seen around phx cistena variety? I do not want a larger tree than about 10' or so for a garden tree. all that i find offered in nurseries are thundercloud and vesuvius, described as up to 20 or more feet. tHANK YOU! -eliz. From hvande@cableone.net Fri Jan 17 19:11:31 2003 From: hvande@cableone.net (hal vandenberg) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:11:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Info on the Manzanita plant Message-ID: <007001c2be5c$3ea89720$20527518@test> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C2BE21.91FD73E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We live in Prescott and have Manzanita growing naturally around our = property. Some of the Manzanita have white/bleached looking bark. The = others have that nice brown/red color. I'm wondering if our sprinklers = are causing the ones in the one area to bleach out. Also, if one trims = them down more from the top, will they become bushier. We'd like them = to hide the house behind us for a little more privacy. Thank you. Margo Van Den Berg ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C2BE21.91FD73E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We live in Prescott and have Manzanita growing = naturally=20 around our property. Some of the Manzanita have white/bleached = looking=20 bark. The others have that nice brown/red color. I'm = wondering if=20 our sprinklers are causing the ones in the one area to bleach out. = Also,=20 if one trims them down more from the top, will they become = bushier. We'd=20 like them to hide the house behind us for a little more privacy. = Thank=20 you.

Margo Van Den Berg

------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C2BE21.91FD73E0-- From mdige1@worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 17 19:42:18 2003 From: mdige1@worldnet.att.net (mdige1@worldnet.att.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:42:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301171942.h0HJgI116739@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a Hamlin orange(Arizona Sweet) tree which I planted 4 years ago. It has lots of beautiful oranges but the pulp is dry and lacks flavor. I water and fertilize per the information received at the Citrus clinics put on by ASU. My Question is will the tree produce better quality fruit as it ages or do I have a bad tree? How long does this type of tree take before I can expect better fruit? Thank You Mike DiGenova From jaymar@interpac.net Fri Jan 17 21:40:32 2003 From: jaymar@interpac.net (jaymar) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:40:32 -1000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ironwood trees Message-ID: I live on the Big Island of Hawaii in a very arid area called Ocean View. We planted 150 ironwood trees on the borders of the property about 3 years ago. All the trees look vital and healthy except the needles on many of the trees are turning yellow. The trunks are very healthy looking but I yellowing needles take away from the appearance of healthy trees. They are all on drip irrigation and get about 1 1/2 gallons of water every 4 days, some of the trees are looking very dark green but as I said some are yellow. I fertilized with slow release fertilizer and every month hand water to make sure the fertilizer gets to the plants. We live on a lava flow and each tree's hole had to be hand dug in the lava rock and then soil was added. Can you tell me what I need to do to get all the trees needles green? thanks so much, Mark Radoccia From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Fri Jan 17 23:32:13 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:32:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ironwood trees Message-ID: <000e01c2be80$ab21b700$3104e043@ibmbna6040> Mark Since your climate and soil conditions are entirely different from what we have here in Phoenix Arizona I need to refrain from making recommendations. However I am bothered by two things, one the amount of water that is being applied and two,whether or not the lava soil allows drainage. The Ironwood tree (Olneya tesota) is a desert adapted tree, a native of the desert areas of S. California, Arizona and Northern Mexico and can exist on normal rainfall which here in the low desert of Arizona is only 7 or 8 inches per year. If the tree were planted here in our clay soil it would probably be deep watered once every two weeks during our hot season. Here winter climate changes cause leaves to yellow, however I don't think you have that in Hawaii. My guess is that you are watering too frequently with not enough water each time. Why not call your county Cooperative Extension office, you will find them in the phone book under County Government. They will be familiar with your local situation and be much better equiped to answer your questions. I would be interested in hearing what you find out. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Arborist -----Original Message----- From: jaymar To: Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Friday, January 17, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] ironwood trees >I live on the Big Island of Hawaii in a very arid area called Ocean View. >We planted 150 ironwood trees on the borders of the property about 3 years >ago. All the trees look vital and healthy except the needles on many of the >trees are turning yellow. The trunks are very healthy looking but I >yellowing needles take away from the appearance of healthy trees. They are >all on drip irrigation and get about 1 1/2 gallons of water every 4 days, >some of the trees are looking very dark green but as I said some are yellow. >I fertilized with slow release fertilizer and every month hand water to make >sure the fertilizer gets to the plants. We live on a lava flow and each >tree's hole had to be hand dug in the lava rock and then soil was added. >Can you tell me what I need to do to get all the trees needles green? >thanks so much, Mark Radoccia > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From ellenderbyclaim@netzero.com Sat Jan 18 04:55:48 2003 From: ellenderbyclaim@netzero.com (ellenderbyclaim@netzero.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:55:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301180455.h0I4tm109573@Ag.arizona.edu> > Dear sir, > In Gendale, Arizona, we have one of our three Queen Palms with stunted frongs. We have had them in the garden for eight years. > I have seen photos,. of before and after treatment with manganese. > I have found a source for this product but the supplier has no idea of dosage. > Can you please help or know someone who can? > I have treated it with Bordeaux for the past two summers but though it gives a temporary spurt of growing, the frongs are still stunted. > Than you, > Geoffrey Alcock From lizroosen@juno.com Sat Jan 18 05:48:15 2003 From: lizroosen@juno.com (lizroosen@juno.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:48:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301180548.h0I5mF113404@Ag.arizona.edu> i bought some rabbiteye blueberries at the nursery. in light shade,might they survive here-north,central phoenix? what about pomegranites? do they produce well here? thankyou for your great service and expertise. From susanmcook@aol.com Sat Jan 18 15:28:31 2003 From: susanmcook@aol.com (susanmcook@aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:28:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301181528.h0IFSV105282@Ag.arizona.edu> Why are the pecans on my papershell pecan tree bitter and dry? The tree gets plenty of water from irrigation. Do I need to spray my tree and what should I spray it with? From merisea@earthlink.net Sat Jan 18 17:41:17 2003 From: merisea@earthlink.net (merisea@earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:41:17 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301181741.h0IHfH117493@Ag.arizona.edu> Am losing 15 year-old lemmon bottlebrush plants used as screening shrub at sw & se corners of residence. Three buses planted at angle to structure and out of the six - half seem to be suffering with fatal degree of die out. If replacing how should this be handled? Better to choose other shrub, amd thinking of cape honeysuckle to attract the hummingbirds but is there a faster growing alternative. Have kept the current shrubs trimmed to about five ft in ht. Have served well as privace and sun screening. Would it be wiser to keep the ones unaffected and replace the affected with new same shrub, I am concerned that originals will continue to suffer from whatever is attacking, no signs of insect damage etc. Please advise, I will need to contract to have this done and need some education as to what course to choose. I'm aging too much to tackle on my own, am a 75 yr old widow and can still dabble and putter which I love but this seems beyond what I should tackle, home was professionally landscaped originally when we built. Many thanks in advance for whatever advice you can offer. M L Cadrecha From rendon2@cox.net Sat Jan 18 19:48:30 2003 From: rendon2@cox.net (rendon2) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:48:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] citrus season Message-ID: <000801c2bf2a$941dae60$09750344@ph.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BEEF.E75A2120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New to AZ. When is the Citrus ripe and ready to pick? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BEEF.E75A2120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

New to AZ. When is the Citrus = ripe and ready=20 to pick?

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BEEF.E75A2120-- From xenaandsilverback@juno.com Sun Jan 19 02:49:04 2003 From: xenaandsilverback@juno.com (xenaandsilverback@juno.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:49:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301190249.h0J2n4110696@Ag.arizona.edu> On acre lot looking for privacy/screen trees that do well with deep irragation, that are evergreen, and neighbor friendly (little litter and little pruning needed). I need to cover 3 areas of 40'+ with at least 10'-12'height within next few years. In between these areas I am considering Seville Sour Orange for asthetics and privacy/sound buffer from road. The trees will be within 4' of block wall. I do not mind rustic, or desert-type trees. The following are my considerations: Australian Willow -- was a prime choice until I was told that almost all plants affected at 6-7 years with dying on one side (due to alkalinity?), and that landscapers stopped using a few years back because of difficulty growing/starting the plant. True? Cupressus arizonica -- read that only lives 30-40 years, and that cannot take SRP schedule of summer irrigation. Are these assertions true? Otherwise, tree would be ideal, I think. Olneya tesota, Sophora secundiflora or Pithecellobium flexicaule -- read that slow growth. Is this true even if irrigated? What about Acacias or Prosopis? Which versions would work for my requirments (evergreen, coverage, little litter)? What about Pyracantha, Tecoma stans, Thevetia peruviana or Ulmus parvifolia? For sake of ease, my wife wants me to just use oleander for the whole back yard fence line (about 500'). Help save me from this boring fate. If you have better ideas than the ones I have listed above, please let me know. You can also e-mail me at my work philnoland@qwest.net, or you can call me at work (602-252-1099) or cell (602-228-8728). I greatly appreciate your insight and help. From ASUsped@aol.com Sun Jan 19 05:36:56 2003 From: ASUsped@aol.com (ASUsped@aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:36:56 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] this is my second email Message-ID: <22.3513ce2d.2b5b9378@aol.com> I've had one response for my first email so I am sending it agine...thank you I applied fish emulsion to my climbing rose last week and the horrible fishy smell is still out there; every time I go outside I could smell it. I know it is one of the best organic fertilizers for roses but the smell, my god, it's like you are in a fish market,,,LOL !!!! I used "Alaska Fish Fertilizer" : All purpose-deodorized fish emulsion. If it says "DEODORIZED," why do I smell it? What's the best deodorized one?........thank you, Mike _______________________________________________ From umiller@azdps.com Sun Jan 19 14:02:43 2003 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:02:43 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Dwarf Pomegranate Leaves Turning Yellow In-Reply-To: <200301170342.h0H3gI105581@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: The leaves on dwarf pomegranates turn yellow and fall off this time of year so this is normal. In the spring the green leaves come back in full force. Ursula Miller Not a Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of judi@ww-web.com Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:42 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page I have a Dwarf Pomegranate (punica granatum 'Nana') that I planted in a large pot approximately 3 months ago. It has done very well until the last few weeks when the leaves began turning yellow and falling off. Is this to be expected for this plant at this time of year (winter) or should I be worried? If this is normal how should I care for it in terms of feeding and watering at this time of year? _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From tcuprak@cox.net Sun Jan 19 15:46:12 2003 From: tcuprak@cox.net (Theresa) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:46:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] gladioulus Message-ID: <001901c2bfd1$e4cbb260$32ce6344@tcjmbpm8f7q9r8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2BF97.383F13A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can gladioulus bulbs still be planted in time to bloom before the summer = heat hits? I wanted to plant some in Nov, but could not find them on = sale anywhere. Now I see them at several stores. Thanks, Theresa ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2BF97.383F13A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Can gladioulus bulbs still be planted = in time to=20 bloom before the summer heat hits? I wanted to plant some in Nov, = but=20 could not find them on sale anywhere. Now I see them at = several=20 stores.

Thanks,

Theresa

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2BF97.383F13A0-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Sun Jan 19 19:23:03 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:23:03 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Queen Palms Sick Message-ID: <001c01c2bff0$3117e120$c02c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Geoffrey, The Queen Palm is not well adapted to alkaline soil conditions, summer heat and hot summer winds. Consequently they require lots of TLC. Even with the best of care the queens do not always do well, sometimes where several queens are planted in the same area and receive the same care some will still not do well. The queens require fertilizating three to four times a year with a special palm fertilizer and deep watering periodically. Yes manganese difficiency is fairly common in queen palms, however there may be other difficiencies such as nitrogen, potassium, magnesium and iron causing your palms to look unhealthy. The use of bordeau is recommended for treatment of bud rot, however the University of Arizona Pathology Department has only recorded two cases of bud rot in palms in the last 50 years which means that bud rot in palms is practically nonexistant. The treatment of palms that are severely affected with nutrient difficiencies is not a do it yourself project. My recommendation is that you call in a Certified Arborist for an appraisal and a course of treatment. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: ellenderbyclaim@netzero.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >> Dear sir, >> In Gendale, Arizona, we have one of our three Queen Palms with stunted frongs. We have had them in the garden for eight years. >> I have seen photos,. of before and after treatment with manganese. >> I have found a source for this product but the supplier has no idea of dosage. >> Can you please help or know someone who can? >> I have treated it with Bordeaux for the past two summers but though it gives a temporary spurt of growing, the frongs are still stunted. >> Than you, >> Geoffrey Alcock > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Sun Jan 19 19:30:29 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:30:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fish emulsion odor Message-ID: <002701c2bff1$3ad42380$c02c0a3f@ibmbna6040> Mike, I've been using fish emulsion on roses for many years and they all smell fishy. If you lightly cultivate the emulsion into the soil it will help, also apply a compost or mulch and your plants will love you as well as helping to eliminate the odor. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: ASUsped@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] this is my second email > > I've had one response for my first email so I am sending >it agine...thank you > > I applied fish emulsion to my climbing rose last week and the horrible > >fishy smell is still out there; every time I go outside I could smell it. I >know it is one of the best organic fertilizers for roses but the smell, my >god, it's like you are in a fish market,,,LOL !!!! > > I used "Alaska Fish Fertilizer" : All purpose-deodorized fish >emulsion. If it says "DEODORIZED," why do I smell it? > > What's the best deodorized one?........thank you, Mike >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From Feildcrest@webtv.net Sun Jan 19 19:36:46 2003 From: Feildcrest@webtv.net (David Feild) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:36:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] graffting citrus Message-ID: <1153-3E2AFE4E-2609@storefull-2311.public.lawson.webtv.net> Please send detailed information on graffting multiplle types of ciitrus on an existing tree. From gizmoaz@cox.net Sun Jan 19 21:18:26 2003 From: gizmoaz@cox.net (GizmoAZ) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:18:26 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] citrus season References: <000801c2bf2a$941dae60$09750344@ph.cox.net> Message-ID: <3E2B1622.4030009@cox.net> --------------050809080809000601040405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The best way to tell is to pick one and try it. I've been harvesting my Lemons, Grapefruit and Oranges for several weeks now. Everything is nice and sweet. Even the ruby red grapefruits are yummy! Yours should be quite ready now. -- Chat with you later... Alan ----- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-listowner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- The gene pool could use a little chlorine. rendon2 wrote: > New to AZ. When is the Citrus ripe and ready to pick? --------------050809080809000601040405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

The best way to tell is to pick one and try it. I've been harvesting my Lemons, Grapefruit and Oranges for several weeks now. Everything is nice and sweet. Even the ruby red grapefruits are yummy! Yours should be quite ready now.

-- 
Chat with you later...
Alan
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http://www.GardenersCorner.com
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Alan Zelhart       
gizmoaz@cox.net
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 The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

rendon2 wrote:

New to AZ. When is the Citrus ripe and ready to pick?

--------------050809080809000601040405-- From imruhestand@worldnet.att.net Mon Jan 20 00:22:35 2003 From: imruhestand@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:22:35 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ironwood trees References: Message-ID: <003d01c2c01a$140ec470$6053530c@olin> There are dozens of heavy-wood trees called "ironwood". The Australian pine, Casuarina equisetifolia, is a conifer with needles that grows in Hawaii. Another is the Brazilian ironwood, Caesalpinia ferrea. There are probably others. I would suggest you first determine which "ironwood" tree you are growing, then contact your appropriate county agent (as Rod suggested). http://www.ctarm.hawaii.edu/staff/countyframe.asp?county=Haw aii+County lists offices on the Big Island at Hilo, Kamuela, and Kealakekua with Phone numbers, street address and email address. Good luck! Olin Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "jaymar" > I live on the Big Island of Hawaii in a very arid area called Ocean View. > We planted 150 ironwood trees on the borders of the property about 3 years > ago. All the trees look vital and healthy except the needles on many of the > trees are turning yellow. The trunks are very healthy looking but I > yellowing needles take away from the appearance of healthy trees. They are > all on drip irrigation and get about 1 1/2 gallons of water every 4 days, > some of the trees are looking very dark green but as I said some are yellow. > I fertilized with slow release fertilizer and every month hand water to make > sure the fertilizer gets to the plants. We live on a lava flow and each > tree's hole had to be hand dug in the lava rock and then soil was added. > Can you tell me what I need to do to get all the trees needles green? > thanks so much, Mark Radoccia > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From shamrockmn@aol.com Mon Jan 20 04:59:35 2003 From: shamrockmn@aol.com (shamrockmn@aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:59:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301200459.h0K4xZ125080@Ag.arizona.edu> we have a 7-8 yr old California pepper tree that gets plenty of sun, water every 3-4 weeks slow and deep. the problem we've started seeing is the tree appears to be dying(lots of dead). there appears to be some white spots on the trunk when you pull away the bark. Any ideas what might the problem be. Thanking you in advance for your ideas. From GACarmack@aol.com Mon Jan 20 05:42:28 2003 From: GACarmack@aol.com (GACarmack@aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:42:28 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <175.1504decf.2b5ce644@aol.com> --part1_175.1504decf.2b5ce644_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm just beginning to plant a few herbs. Do you have any information you can mail to me and is there a fee? thanks. Gail Carmack, 6604 W. Range Mule Dr., Glendale, AZ 85310 --part1_175.1504decf.2b5ce644_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm just beginning to plant a few herbs. Do you have any information you can mail to me and is there a fee? thanks. Gail Carmack, 6604 W. Range Mule Dr., Glendale, AZ 85310 --part1_175.1504decf.2b5ce644_boundary-- From ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com Mon Jan 20 18:12:23 2003 From: ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com (ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:12:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301201812.h0KICJ113502@Ag.arizona.edu> What is the best kind of compost bin/container to use outside? I would like as much info on making my own compost here north of Phoenix From gvhaley1@attbi.com Mon Jan 20 19:47:58 2003 From: gvhaley1@attbi.com (Gordon Haley) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:47:58 -0800 Subject: [Arid_gardener] pruning grapes Message-ID: <002801c2c0bc$d5e5ff80$d848d50c@attbi.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C079.C76ED320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is there a "best" way to prune table grapes (Thompson seedless) and a = soil additive that will produce an edible crop and not little tiny = bitter grapes? ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C079.C76ED320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

is there a "best" way to prune table = grapes=20 (Thompson seedless) and a soil additive that will produce an edible crop = and not=20 little tiny bitter grapes?

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C2C079.C76ED320-- From sandypac@earthlink.net Mon Jan 20 20:26:28 2003 From: sandypac@earthlink.net (sandypac@earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:26:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301202026.h0KKQS101149@Ag.arizona.edu> can you tell me what type and name of shrugs,palms,desert plants, that rabbits wont eat. they are driving me carzy... From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 20 21:45:06 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:45:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] graffting citrus Message-ID: <000e01c2c0cd$33d941a0$2f31db43@ibmbna6040> David, The Master Gardener Manual has a chapter on Plant Propagation which contains a section on T- Budding, the method commonly used to graft varieties onto a citrus tree all of which is on line at: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/index.html Good luck. Rod McKusick Master gardener -----Original Message----- From: David Feild To: Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] graffting citrus Please send detailed information on graffting multiplle types of ciitrus on an existing tree. _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From christev@earthlink.net Mon Jan 20 22:00:52 2003 From: christev@earthlink.net (Chris & Stevie Ashlock) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:00:52 -0600 Subject: [Arid_gardener] king sago palm Message-ID: <000801c2c0cf$67d0dde0$d001a3d1@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C09D.1B92D000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a king sago that is in a container, and all the bottom fronds are = yellow. I was told that too much salt can cause this and that I should = rinse it thoroughly 3 times, I was also told that this is normal and = that I should cut the yellow fronds off. Which one should I do? ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C09D.1B92D000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a king sago that is in a container, and all = the bottom=20 fronds are yellow. I was told that too much salt can cause this and that = I=20 should rinse it thoroughly 3 times, I was also told that this is normal = and that=20 I should cut the yellow fronds off. Which one should I=20 do?

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C09D.1B92D000-- From sjbass@qwest.net Tue Jan 21 03:21:24 2003 From: sjbass@qwest.net (Sue Bass) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:21:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] [Fwd: lemon tree] Message-ID: <3E2CBCB4.8FC8FF60@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D03E1850BD04EB374FE37BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone handle this question? Thanks!! Sue Bass --------------D03E1850BD04EB374FE37BE0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: sjbass@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 86698 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2003 19:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.uswest.net) (63.226.138.2) by mpls-mailin-02.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 19:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4408 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 2003 19:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m03.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.6) by mail2.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Jan 2003 19:52:16 -0000 Received: from Krskrks@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id z.1c3.3c01fd4 (3850) for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:51:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:51:58 EST Message-ID: <1c3.3c01fd4.2b5dad5e@aol.com> From: Krskrks@aol.com To: sjbass@qwest.net Subject: lemon tree MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c3.3c01fd4.2b5dad5e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10638 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 --part1_1c3.3c01fd4.2b5dad5e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Our lemons have not turned completely yellow, and the leaves of the tree are fringed with yellow. Can you tell me what we did wrong this past year? thankyou, Chris --part1_1c3.3c01fd4.2b5dad5e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Our lemons have not turned completely yellow, and the leaves of the tree are fringed with yellow. Can you tell me what we did wrong this past year?
thankyou, Chris --part1_1c3.3c01fd4.2b5dad5e_boundary-- --------------D03E1850BD04EB374FE37BE0-- From ccromell@amug.org Tue Jan 21 08:15:01 2003 From: ccromell@amug.org (Cathy Cromell) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:15:01 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Plants to attract hummingbirds and bees Message-ID: There are numerous plants that thrive in the desert that hummers will visit. They are particularly attracted to reds, pinks and oranges and their long beaks are well-adapted for tubular shaped flowers, such as salvias, penstemons, and trumpet flowers. Also, chuparosa, aloe, ocotillo, fairy duster, justicia, tecoma stans, desert willow, and zauschneria are reliable hummingbird attractors. Hummingbirds also provide an excellent reason to leave spider webs intact, as they use the sticky web material to build their nests. A good reference for this area is Desert Hummingbird Gardens by Sylvia Yoder. Bees will visit just about anything that flowers. However, standing in a friend's yard a few days ago, I noted that her flowering rosemary bush was covered with bees! Cathy Cromell, Master Gardener >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:25:30 -0700 (MST) >To: >From: ab7mx1@aol.com >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > >what type of flowers or plants will attract bees and humming birds in the >mesa az area? From rkdassin@mpsaz.org Tue Jan 21 16:12:13 2003 From: rkdassin@mpsaz.org (rkdassin@mpsaz.org) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:12:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301211612.h0LGCC122257@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a huge Pampas grass plant, the one that gets the big white plumes. It is looking a bit ragged - dry with no plumes right now. Does it need to be trimmed or anything? From Steve.Sheard@motorola.com Tue Jan 21 19:39:50 2003 From: Steve.Sheard@motorola.com (Sheard Stephen-r21680) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:39:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: I use "recycled City Trash Bins". I live in Tempe and they supply (free) the trash bins that are not useable for regular use. I made a small modification with the addition of a door on the bottom. I feed from the top and take out the bottom. They are kept damp by a spray on a timer. I poke holes and stir when I add material. I use 3 + 1 for final drying before bagging. Give your local City a call. Other useful sites: http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/links.htm#compost http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/compost/Composting_homepage.html http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/general/compost.htm http://www.a-horizon.com/compost/compost_menu.html Regards Steve (Not a Master Gardener) -----Original Message----- From: ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com [mailto:ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:12 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page What is the best kind of compost bin/container to use outside? I would like as much info on making my own compost here north of Phoenix _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From olga@torosay1.fsnet.co.uk Tue Jan 21 20:11:22 2003 From: olga@torosay1.fsnet.co.uk (olga@torosay1.fsnet.co.uk) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:11:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301212011.h0LKBM125192@Ag.arizona.edu> morning glory (ipomoea spp)and evening primrose (oenothera biennis) are so called because of the time of day at which their flower open From emarchie@excite.com Tue Jan 21 20:13:55 2003 From: emarchie@excite.com (emarchie@excite.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:13:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301212013.h0LKDs125710@Ag.arizona.edu> While harvesting mineolas we noticed the tree looks stressed with leaf drop tho sm. branches seem supple, has a multitude of clusters of sm new fruit {1" dia.} over much of the tree. Water is on a regular basis...fertilized every 3 mos....tree about 10 yrs old....situated in Sun City. We would appreciate any input on the problem ...Thanks From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Tue Jan 21 23:04:23 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:04:23 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Lemons not yellow Message-ID: <004301c2c1a1$85d7c100$d31d0a3f@ibmbna6040> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C2C166.C3F78A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comercial growers typically treat their lemons with ethylene gas to = cause them to turn yellow early in the season. Give them time they = should be yellowing soon. The yellow leaves are typical of citrus in the = winter. No need to worry unless you are over watering. Good luck. 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Comercial growers typically treat their lemons with = ethylene=20 gas to cause them to turn yellow early in the season. Give them time = they should=20 be yellowing soon. The yellow leaves are typical of citrus in the = winter. No=20 need to worry unless you are over watering.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C2C166.C3F78A00-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Tue Jan 21 23:27:21 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:27:21 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] California Pepper Tree Dying Message-ID: <004801c2c1a4$a7359860$d31d0a3f@ibmbna6040> The California Pepper Tree is a relatively short lived tree when grown here in the low desert. It is susceptable to several diseases and insects such as Texas Root Rot, heart rot and nematodes all of which do not have a cure. One text suggests cutting it nearly to the ground and allowing it to grow again. Your 3 to 4 week watering interval is ok for winter watering but would not be adequate for summer. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener-----Original Message----- From: shamrockmn@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:11 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >we have a 7-8 yr old California pepper tree that gets plenty of sun, water every 3-4 weeks slow and deep. the problem we've started seeing is the tree appears to be dying(lots of dead). there appears to be some white spots on the trunk when you pull away the bark. >Any ideas what might the problem be. Thanking you in advance for your ideas. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From watsontl@mindspring.com Wed Jan 22 01:15:47 2003 From: watsontl@mindspring.com (Tom & Linda Watson) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:15:47 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200301201812.h0KICJ113502@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <001001c2c1b3$cc527d20$c830b83f@S0029317241> There really isn't any single best way to go. If you want to buy a bin or tumbler, pick up just about any gardening magazine and you will find plenty of products to chose from. You can also build a bin, and be as elaborate or simple as you like. I've seen good compost come from bins that were nothing more than a 3 foot diameter circle of chicken wire. Some people will scrounge three or four wooden shipping pallets and wire them together to form a compost bin. My prefered system these days is something called a "compost corral," which is a set of four steel upright supports into which you insert your own lumber, controling the size of the bin by cutting the boards to fit you space requirements. Any compost bin will do. The trick is not which one you select or build, but how you manage the contents once you get going. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > What is the best kind of compost bin/container to use outside? I would like as much info on making my own compost here north of Phoenix > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From jbegeman@Ag.arizona.edu Wed Jan 22 18:22:41 2003 From: jbegeman@Ag.arizona.edu (John Begeman) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:22:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] 3rd Annual French Gardens Tour "Paris to Provence" Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030122111220.00ac59c0@ag.arizona.edu> Dear Gardening Enthusiast, Come see some of the most exquisite gardens of France on the 3rd Annual �Paris to Provence�, Gardens, Wine and Cuisine Tour - May 21-31, 2003. Our tour includes the best gardens in an around Paris including; Giverny, Luxembourg, and Bagatelle, and some truly spectacular private gardens in Provence. Among the highlights will be a day spent with noted garden author Louisa Jones, touring some of her favorite gardens of Provence. A hands-on Proven�al cooking class with an expert chef will be held at the 4-star Hotel Les Agassins in Avignon. Wine tasting in Chateauneuf-du-Pape and other famous appellations will round out the tour. Our small group of travelers, limited to 18 persons, will depart Tucson for Paris on May 21, 2003. Reservation deadline is February 11, 2003. For more information visit our tours web site at: www.paris-france-tours.com John P. Begeman, M.S. Urban Horticulture Agent Pima County Cooperative Extension Phone: (520) 626-5161 Fax: (520) 626-5849 jbegeman@ag.arizona.edu From melikian@mindspring.com Thu Jan 23 20:56:18 2003 From: melikian@mindspring.com (Robert Melikian) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:56:18 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Purchase and culture of Promegranates Message-ID: <00ac01c2c321$e0e709d0$689efea9@yourw92p4bhlzg> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2C2E7.342D8EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went to my local Phoenix plant nursery and found a pitiful Pomegranate = for sale whose base stem was no thicker than a pencil. It was priced at = $49.99. Is there a source where I can order or purchase a couple of = trees that have some size (2-4 years old) that will not incur the = national debt? Also, what represents the basics for growing these trees? Is there a = variety that does best in our difficult summers? My primary desire for = these plants is for their fruit. Thank you. Robert ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2C2E7.342D8EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I went to my local Phoenix plant = nursery and found=20 a pitiful Pomegranate for sale whose base stem was no thicker than a=20 pencil. It was priced at $49.99. Is there a source where I = can order=20 or purchase a couple of trees that have some size (2-4 years old) that = will not=20 incur the national debt?

Also, what represents the basics for = growing these=20 trees? Is there a variety that does best in our difficult = summers? =20 My primary desire for these plants is for their fruit.

Thank you.

Robert

------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C2C2E7.342D8EB0-- From LBrimhall@asu.edu Thu Jan 23 22:30:32 2003 From: LBrimhall@asu.edu (LBrimhall@asu.edu) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:30:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301232230.h0NMUWB28682@Ag.arizona.edu> I am considering converting my backyard swimming pool to a saltwater chlorination system. The salesman tells me that this is low level salinity(5000ppm)- no problems with watering plants with the backwash. Your opinion please? Will watering my citrus trees, fan palms, and grass turf be adversely affected by watering with saltwater pool backwash? BTW, I have been using backwash from the pool filter as irrigation for many years and it seem to have no ill effect - great citrus crop again this year. From weezie7cat@aol.com Fri Jan 24 00:31:49 2003 From: weezie7cat@aol.com (weezie7cat@aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:31:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301240031.h0O0VnB25954@Ag.arizona.edu> Do you have pictures of desert landscapes for a home?The front yard inspecific. Thanks From umiller@azdps.com Fri Jan 24 00:51:41 2003 From: umiller@azdps.com (Ursula Miller) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:51:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Purchase and culture of Promegranates In-Reply-To: <00ac01c2c321$e0e709d0$689efea9@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2C308.15CCE760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That�s pretty expensive. But these are VERY slow-growing plants and that may be the reason for the high price. I have a number of miniature pomegranates that cost the standard $4.95 per pot but it takes a long time for them to get any size. Ursula Miller Not A Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of Robert Melikian Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:56 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Purchase and culture of Promegranates I went to my local Phoenix plant nursery and found a pitiful Pomegranate for sale whose base stem was no thicker than a pencil. It was priced at $49.99. Is there a source where I can order or purchase a couple of trees that have some size (2-4 years old) that will not incur the national debt? Also, what represents the basics for growing these trees? Is there a variety that does best in our difficult summers? My primary desire for these plants is for their fruit. Thank you. Robert ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2C308.15CCE760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Th= at’s pretty expensive. But = these are VERY slow-growing plants and that may be the reason for the high = price.

I = have a number of miniature pomegranates that cost the standard $4.95 per pot = but it takes a long time for them to get any = size.

Ursula Miller

Not = A Master Gardener

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-----Original Message-----
From: arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu = [mailto:arid_gardener-admin@Ag.arizona.edu]On Behalf Of Robert Melikian
Sent: Thursday, January = 23, 2003 1:56 PM
To: = arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Subject: [Arid_gardener] = Purchase and culture of Promegranates

I went to my local Phoenix plant nursery and found a pitiful Pomegranate for = sale whose base stem was no thicker than a pencil. It was priced at $49.99. Is there a source where I can order or purchase a couple = of trees that have some size (2-4 years old) that will not incur the national = debt?<= /p>

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Also, what represents the basics for growing these trees? Is there a = variety that does best in our difficult summers? My primary desire for = these plants is for their fruit.<= /p>

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Thank you.

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Robert<= /p>

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2C308.15CCE760-- From lthomas@cityoftolleson.org Fri Jan 24 13:51:45 2003 From: lthomas@cityoftolleson.org (lthomas@cityoftolleson.org) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:51:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301241351.h0ODpiB00285@Ag.arizona.edu> We have many pine trees at work, at a waste water treatment plant. They are all getting the brown on them, some worse than others. Could you help us with figuring out what is wrong, and what we need to do to solve this problem before we loose them all. We have lost trees to this in the past. We need assistance. Since they have cut back on our spending, we need to ask for assistance with advise. Call if you like, 623-936-3381 From Jessica@ClearviewOnline.com Fri Jan 24 14:25:19 2003 From: Jessica@ClearviewOnline.com (Jessica@ClearviewOnline.com) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:25:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301241425.h0OEPFB03917@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a texas ebony tree in my back yard. It was planted there about 3 years ago and is approx. 6 years old. How normal is it this time of year (January) for many leaves to be turning yellow and dropping off? Thank you for responding. From gusnaz@worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 24 17:40:31 2003 From: gusnaz@worldnet.att.net (Gus Nelson) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:40:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] how to propogate calla bulbs Message-ID: <001101c2c3cf$b74cb760$c451530c@computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C395.04BE02A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope someone can help my mother. She has planted some calla lilies and = got great flowers last summer. She dried the bulbs and is ready to = replant. She was wondering if she can separate them, the bulbs are the = size of large onions. Most other bulbs had side shoots and tubers which = were easy to separate. The calla's are one big bulb. Does any one have = any suggestions, most internet sites have been very vague. Thanks Gus = Nelson ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C395.04BE02A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I hope someone can help my mother. She = has planted=20 some calla lilies and got great flowers last summer. She dried the bulbs = and is=20 ready to replant. She was wondering if she can separate them, the bulbs = are the=20 size of large onions. Most other bulbs had side shoots and tubers which = were=20 easy to separate. The calla's are one big bulb. Does any one have any=20 suggestions, most internet sites have been very vague. Thanks Gus=20 Nelson

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C395.04BE02A0-- From Jonathan Kandell" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2C513.AE713360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you in southwest USA, was wondering how you're handling the = strange weather this year? In Tucson we've almost had no winter. I'm = still harvesting tomatoes and my bok choys and cilantros all went to = flower already. My sunflowers came up on their own and are four feet = tall already! I put out a few spring tomatoes this week, two month's = early. Aphids have been very light here. What a strange season! ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2C513.AE713360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those of you in southwest USA, was wondering = how=20 you're handling the strange weather this year? In Tucson we've = almost had=20 no winter. I'm still harvesting tomatoes and my bok choys and = cilantros=20 all went to flower already. My sunflowers came up on their own and = are=20 four feet tall already! I put out a few spring tomatoes this week, = two=20 month's early. Aphids have been very light here. What a = strange=20 season!

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C2C513.AE713360-- From olddog992000@yahoo.com Sun Jan 26 17:00:22 2003 From: olddog992000@yahoo.com (olddog992000@yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:00:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301261700.h0QH0MB11848@Ag.arizona.edu> l have been growing some tangerine trees for about three or four years now.l take them out side in the late spring when it starts to warm's up can l bring them in in the early fall.l keep them water as they need it.But l am not to sure if l'm doing all l can for them.they seem to be still pretty green and heathly looking.l guest what l am asking is some more information on how to take better care of them because when l got these one's l did not receive any information on how to look after them. From thewatts@crow662.freeserve.co.uk Thu Jan 23 22:57:31 2003 From: thewatts@crow662.freeserve.co.uk (The Watts) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:57:31 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bouganvillia Message-ID: <014f01c2c332$d5de6c20$d75686d9@simon1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C2C332.CF5AA300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Can someone give us a tip on how to make our bouganvillia flower... we = have it growing in an enormous pot indoors near a window... it looks = amazingly strong and healthy but just shoots out long strong shoots and = the leaves just won't turn pink.... it must be about 6 years old. as = you can see we live in the UK (not the hottest place on earth!), but all = the same our plant looks healthy and happy enough... so any advice would be MOST APPRECIATED. Our thanks in anticipation ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C2C332.CF5AA300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

Can someone give us a tip on how to = make our=20 bouganvillia flower... we have it growing in an enormous pot indoors = near a=20 window... it looks amazingly strong and healthy but just shoots out long = strong=20 shoots and the leaves just won't turn pink.... it must be about 6 years=20 old. as you can see we live in the UK (not the hottest place on = earth!),=20 but all the same our plant looks healthy and happy = enough...

so any advice would be MOST=20 APPRECIATED.

Our thanks in anticipation

------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C2C332.CF5AA300-- From fuzywuzyaz@earthlink.net Sun Jan 26 19:14:23 2003 From: fuzywuzyaz@earthlink.net (fuzywuzyaz@earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:14:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301261914.h0QJENB24849@Ag.arizona.edu> I'm tired of bermuda grass invasive tendencies, is there another alternative to it in the desert? I was wondering if anyone had tried Zoysia grass here, and if it is successful, and any problems that occur with it. I also would like a recommendation, on what would is considered the best lawn type for the desert. From Leadlynn@aol.com Sun Jan 26 19:23:42 2003 From: Leadlynn@aol.com (Leadlynn@aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:23:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301261923.h0QJNgB25777@Ag.arizona.edu> I am new to Az and have no knowledge about growing citrus. We recently bought a home with a tangelo and a grapefruit tree. The grapefruit tree has lots of very good fruit but the tangelo has only 7. Do you prune citrus trees. When? How can I increase fruit production on the Tangelo tree. This house is about 18 years old but I have no idea how old the trees are. Thank you Lynn From PERFLOWERS@aol.com Mon Jan 27 17:47:56 2003 From: PERFLOWERS@aol.com (PERFLOWERS@aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:47:56 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pomegranates Message-ID: <138.1a1a266c.2b66cacc@aol.com> I think $50 to pay for a pomegranate bush is a terrible price. I would call around to nurseries is the Phx area (that includes Glendale, Mesa, Tempe, etc.) and see if you can't locate one at a lower price. They are not that unusual. Maybe you were looking for one at the wrong time of year. If you are growing it for the fruit, I think "Wonderful" is the variety recommended. You have to watch out for a bug (leaf-footed bug???) that attacks the fruit - you won't see any damage from the outside, but when you break it open then you will see it. There are also ornamental pomegranates, one that is regular size and one that is a dwarf. There may be more, but I know about those two. Val From 4landm@cox.net Mon Jan 27 19:28:38 2003 From: 4landm@cox.net (Lee and Myrna) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:28:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Help Message-ID: <001001c2c63a$4ae4b2e0$79246244@ph.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2C5FF.9E42B760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a couple of Blue Hibiscus that are really going to town! Is = there a need to trim or cut down? Do they need to be supported by = anything? I have 3 ft wire surrounding them and they seem to be alright = but one is over the 3 foot wire. Also is there anything special you = should do to lavenders this time of year? Lee ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2C5FF.9E42B760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a = couple of Blue=20 Hibiscus that are really going to town! Is there a need to trim or = cut=20 down? Do they need to be supported by anything? I have 3 ft wire=20 surrounding them and they seem to be alright but one is over the 3 foot=20 wire. Also is there anything special you should do to lavenders = this time=20 of year?

Lee

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2C5FF.9E42B760-- From diane1031@direcway.com Mon Jan 27 21:06:28 2003 From: diane1031@direcway.com (diane1031@direcway.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:06:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301272106.h0RL6RB05953@Ag.arizona.edu> We live in Gilbert. We have a patio that gets very little sun. What kind of plants will do well there? All will have to be in containers. Thank you! From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 27 21:51:08 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:51:08 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bouganvillia Message-ID: <003401c2c64e$345aa660$c504e043@ibmbna6040> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2C613.86922C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bougainvillea thrives in hot climates such as southern California and = Arizona. For it's color to be the best it must have full sun and and not = be over watered or over fertilized. My text tells me that one species, = Bougainvillea spectabilis will do well where the summers are cool.=20 Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: The Watts To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bouganvillia Hello all, Can someone give us a tip on how to make our bouganvillia flower... we = have it growing in an enormous pot indoors near a window... it looks = amazingly strong and healthy but just shoots out long strong shoots and = the leaves just won't turn pink.... it must be about 6 years old. as = you can see we live in the UK (not the hottest place on earth!), but all = the same our plant looks healthy and happy enough... so any advice would be MOST APPRECIATED. Our thanks in anticipation ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2C613.86922C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Bougainvillea thrives in hot climates such as = southern=20 California and Arizona. For it's color to be the best it must have full = sun and=20 and not be over watered or over fertilized. My text tells me that = one=20 species, Bougainvillea spectabilis will do well where the summers are=20 cool.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 The Watts <thewatts@crow662.freeser= ve.co.uk>
To:=20 arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= =20 <arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= >
Date:=20 Monday, January 27, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: = [Arid_gardener]=20 Bouganvillia

Hello all,

Can someone give us a tip on how to = make our=20 bouganvillia flower... we have it growing in an enormous pot indoors = near a=20 window... it looks amazingly strong and healthy but just shoots out = long=20 strong shoots and the leaves just won't turn pink.... it must be about = 6 years=20 old. as you can see we live in the UK (not the hottest place on = earth!),=20 but all the same our plant looks healthy and happy = enough...

so any advice would be MOST=20 APPRECIATED.

Our thanks in = anticipation

------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2C613.86922C40-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 27 22:06:24 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:06:24 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Texas Ebony leaves yellowing and dropping Message-ID: <003901c2c650$5628e840$c504e043@ibmbna6040> Durng our colder season many of the leaves on most evergreen trees will yellow and drop especially after frosts and if they are over watered. Because the soil has cooled the trees are not able to take up nutrients especially nitrogen which helps the leaves stay green. In addition the Texas Ebony is simi deciduous which means that the leaves are likely to drop after frosts. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener ---Original Message----- From: Jessica@ClearviewOnline.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >I have a texas ebony tree in my back yard. It was planted there about 3 years ago and is approx. 6 years old. How normal is it this time of year (January) for many leaves to be turning yellow and dropping off? > >Thank you for responding. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 27 22:26:40 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:26:40 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bermuda Grass Message-ID: <003e01c2c653$2a9fdbe0$c504e043@ibmbna6040> Sorry but bermuda grass is the grass of choice here in the low desert. It's agressive tendencies are one of the reasons that it does well here. Zoysia grass grows stolens the same as bermuda and is not well adapted to our alkaline soils. It has a shorter green season than bermuda, turning brown earlier in the fall and staying brown later in the spring. It cannot be overseeded with rye as can bermuda during the cooler season. It must also be dethatched more often then bermuda. Further it takes much longer to become established than bermuda, two seasons. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: fuzywuzyaz@earthlink.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >I'm tired of bermuda grass invasive tendencies, is there another alternative to it in the desert? I was wondering if anyone had tried Zoysia grass here, and if it is successful, and any problems that occur with it. I also would like a recommendation, on what would is considered the best lawn type for the desert. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Mon Jan 27 22:42:13 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus trees Message-ID: <004301c2c655$57567980$c504e043@ibmbna6040> Lynn, It is not uncommon for citrus to have alternate good and bad crop years. Citrus should not be pruned except to remove dead or damaged branches, crossing branches, sucker growth from below the graft ( near the ground) and to remove wayward growth. The branches and trunk must not be exposed to the sun unless they are painted to prevent sunburn. Proper irrigation and fertilization will help keep your citrus healthy and bearing fruit. A bulletin titled CITRUS TREES IN THE HOME GARDEN is available for $1.00 from Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040 and will answer your questions about growing citrus. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master gardener -----Original Message----- From: Leadlynn@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >I am new to Az and have no knowledge about growing citrus. We recently bought a home with a tangelo and a grapefruit tree. The grapefruit tree has lots of very good fruit but the tangelo has only 7. Do you prune citrus trees. When? How can I increase fruit production on the Tangelo tree. >This house is about 18 years old but I have no idea how old the trees are. >Thank you >Lynn > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From cnoyes@Ag.arizona.edu Mon Jan 27 22:57:05 2003 From: cnoyes@Ag.arizona.edu (Carol Noyes) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:57:05 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Arizona Firewise Communities Educator's Workshop Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030127152955.00ada100@ag.arizona.edu> Payson, Arizona February 18-19, 2003 Best Western Payson Inn Mission Statement "Arizona Firewise is a collaboration of agencies and organizations that provides cooperative leadership and oversight in order to develop and deliver a coordinated statewide Firewise education program." Who should come? Any individual that provides leadership and education addressing wildfire issues in Arizona is encouraged to attend. What will you get? *National and local perspectives on Firewise Communities activities. *Science and research information addressing fire ecology, climate trends, and wildfires, modeled for Arizona from top researchers in the state. *Tools for Firewise Educators: -PowerPoint education modules on CD-ROM covering: +Communicating Firefighter Terminology +Vegetation Zones and Fire in Arizona +Defensible Space versus Moonscapes +Forest Health Issues +Picking up the pieces of the Fire -Videos, Brochures, Doorhangers and other educational materials *Panel/forum to share and discuss Firewise programs in and for Arizona *Participant Contact List *Fieldtrip and more! How to register: Go to http://www.ag.arizona.edu/extension/firewise for registration information and agenda. Pre-registration fee will be $75 (make checks payable to UA). conference rate at hotel, reserved before February 3, will be $55/night. Best Western Payson Inn, Reservation (800) 247-9477, phone (928) 474-3241, Fax (928) 472-6564, www.innofpayson.com. For questions, please call the Gila County Extension Office at (928) 425-7179. From cchare@qwest.net Mon Jan 27 23:43:01 2003 From: cchare@qwest.net (cchare@qwest.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:43:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301272343.h0RNh1B16063@Ag.arizona.edu> Can anyone suggest a homemade bird repellent? Would moth balls work? I want to keep the birds off of my flower pots and out of their saucers full of water, but don't want to harm the birds. Thanks. From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 01:58:46 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 01:58:46 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] repelling birds Message-ID: Birds in the garden can be a real challenge. Mothballs or other odor repellents don't work. The most effective repellant are barriers -- wire mesh fencing, wire cages, bird netting, etc. (Be aware netting may catch and kill birds as well as lizards). Floating row cover can also be used to enclose plants. Audio and visual "frighteners" may also work, at least until the birds figure out they aren't harmful. These include Scareaway Bird Line (audio tape stetched between stakes over the plants)or pie pans, tinsel, old CDs, plastic ribbon, etc that will move in the slightest breeze. Some people try plastic snakes, moving them around from day to day. A large ballon 'predator eye' has been successful in some situations when tethered over the garden. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: cchare@qwest.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:43:01 -0700 (MST) > >Can anyone suggest a homemade bird repellent? >Would moth balls work? I want to keep the birds off of my flower pots and >out of their saucers full of water, but don't want to harm the birds. >Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 02:32:25 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] plants for shade Message-ID: There are many plants that can grow in shade in containers. Check out Mary Rose Duffield & Warren Jones' book, "Plants for Dry Climates". The appendix has a listing of plants that do well in shade. A few examples -- some Agaves, gold-dust plant (Aucuba), aralia ivy, some of the jasmines Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: diane1031@direcway.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:06:28 -0700 (MST) > >We live in Gilbert. We have a patio that gets very little sun. What kind >of plants will do well there? All will have to be in containers. Thank >you! > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 02:47:29 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:47:29 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] blue hibiscus (Alyogyne huegelii) Message-ID: Blue hibiscus is an Australian native and it sounds like you are very successful growing it! I've not grown this plant nyself but Sunset Garden Book recommends pinching and pruning as needed to control growth (it can grow to 5-8 feet.) Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Lee and Myrna" <4landm@cox.net> >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Help >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:28:38 -0700 > >I have a couple of Blue Hibiscus that are really going to town! Is there a >need to trim or cut down? Do they need to be supported by anything? I have >3 ft wire surrounding them and they seem to be alright but one is over the >3 foot wire. Also is there anything special you should do to lavenders >this time of year? > >Lee _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 02:52:17 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:52:17 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] tangerine trees Message-ID: It sounds like your trees are healthy and you are taking good care of them. Since you are moving them indoors in winter, I imagine you live in a cold climate (we are in southern Arizona). you might want to check with your local Cooperative Extension Office for special information about your part of the country (look in the conty pages of your phone book). Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: olddog992000@yahoo.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:00:22 -0700 (MST) > >l have been growing some tangerine trees for about three or four years >now.l take them out side in the late spring when it starts to warm's up can >l bring them in in the early fall.l keep them water as they need it.But l >am not to sure if l'm doing all l can for them.they seem to be still pretty >green and heathly looking.l guest what l am asking is some more information >on how to take better care of them because when l got these one's l did not >receive any information on how to look after them. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 03:01:02 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:01:02 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] desert landscapes Message-ID: Check with your local water company and ask if they have the full color booklets developed by the Arizona Municipal Water Users Association. If not, try contacting the City of Phoenix for information on where you might find them. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: weezie7cat@aol.com >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:31:49 -0700 (MST) > >Do you have pictures of desert landscapes for a home?The front yard >inspecific. Thanks > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From drew_linda@hotmail.com Tue Jan 28 03:04:39 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:04:39 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] pine trees turning brown Message-ID: I would suggest you review the watering schedule for your pine trees. We've received almost no winter rain this year and temperatures are above average. You may want to try to deep-water (to a depth of three feet) out to the edge of the canopy or beyond if possible. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: lthomas@cityoftolleson.org >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:51:45 -0700 (MST) > >We have many pine trees at work, at a waste water treatment plant. They >are all getting the brown on them, some worse than others. Could you help >us with figuring out what is wrong, and what we need to do to solve this >problem before we loose them all. We have lost trees to this in the past. >We need assistance. Since they have cut back on our spending, we need to >ask for assistance with advise. Call if you like, 623-936-3381 > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From jls4@alumni.cwru.edu Tue Jan 28 04:44:58 2003 From: jls4@alumni.cwru.edu (Jonathan Shaw) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:44:58 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: Desert landscape pictures In-Reply-To: <200301240031.h0O0VnB25954@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: On 1/23/03 5:31 PM, "weezie7cat@aol.com" wrote: > Do you have pictures of desert landscapes for a home?The front yard > inspecific. Thanks Here's pictures of my yard taken over time (the plants are still getting established and none are fully mature yet): http://users.cableaz.com/~sneakymoose/landscaping/ I recommend driving out to some lesser populated areas of the valley and take photos of the natural desert landscapes -- both up close and from a distance. If you have a lot of planning time, then go out and look at the desert at different times of the year so you can see the scenery changes with the seasons. Also drive around neighborhoods that are desert landscaped and take photos of the yards that you like... A nursery can probably help you identify which plants they are using from the photos. Judy Mielke's "Native Plants for Southwestern Landscapes" book has great photos and descriptions of plants which work well around here. -Jonathan {;-) jls4@alumni.cwru.edu From thewatts@crow662.freeserve.co.uk Fri Jan 24 15:28:55 2003 From: thewatts@crow662.freeserve.co.uk (The Watts) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:28:55 -0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bouganvillea frustration! - attention Rod McKusick Message-ID: <005a01c2c3bd$53164980$e05a86d9@simon1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2C3BD.4E80E2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rod the Master Gardener Many thanks for your reply.... unfortunately, we live in the UK, now you = =3D know how much rain we've had of late - we very rarely see the sun! =3D except yesterday was lovely and so is today - but just check out =3D tomorrow and the days that follow! So you can imagine we all scramble = =3D when it does come out! This enormous creature sits at the window which faces the sun (?) rise = =3D and looks happy enough, except when it looks like it needs water... so = =3D we give it a drink then it perks up, chucks out these enormous shoots = =3D full of brilliant healthy green leaves, which never turn pink.... then = =3D all of sudden it sheds quite a few - we wind the shoots into each other = =3D and end up with an enormous somewhat messy looking thing (?). We do get = =3D frustrated with it, but as we love all plants, trees, animals (and some = =3D people (?), we haven't got the heart to abandon it... we will persevere! Do you think it may like distilled water - is it worth a try? We do =3D have a rather large house which is never really that hot so maybe it's = =3D suffering from the cold! Well, you have a nice safe day and take care ! We do 'tremble' at the future! 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C717.FE2F8EA0-- From bdsmor@oco.net Tue Jan 28 19:25:26 2003 From: bdsmor@oco.net (bdsmor@oco.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:25:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301281925.h0SJPQB27325@Ag.arizona.edu> How much and how often should i fertize my orange and grapefruit trees. They are about 9 years old. From jim-Karen@cox.net Tue Jan 28 21:06:09 2003 From: jim-Karen@cox.net (jim-Karen@cox.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:06:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301282106.h0SL69B21872@Ag.arizona.edu> We had a Mediterranean fan palm (24" box) planted last October. I recently noticed three brown encasing, at the base of the trunk, exposing a bright yellow, fairly flat (1" x 1") "thing" with a stem. It is covered in what appear to be small flowerettes. In fact it looks a bit like broccoli, but yellow. I have been to several nurseries and no one knows what this is. I'm thinking it may be simply seeding but I also want to side with caution because I don't want to risk losing this palm if something is wrong. Thank you so very much for your help. Best Regards From GGillespie@cybertrails.com Tue Jan 28 23:28:15 2003 From: GGillespie@cybertrails.com (GGillespie@cybertrails.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:28:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301282328.h0SNSFB25230@Ag.arizona.edu> Poly. drip tube & fittings, Is a Coupling, Tee or Elbo for 5/8" tube 100% leak free or is an occasional drip from a fitting acceptable? 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Grant Writing USA delivers nationwide training programs and workshops that dramatically enhance performance in the areas of grant writing, grant maker research and relations, program planning, and personal and organizational excellence. Each element plays an important role in grant writing success and all are covered in this, Grant Writing USA's signature, two-day workshop. The workshop is suitable for beginning and experienced grant writers. Tuition is $249 per person for any registration received before February 14, 2003. After that, $289. Note that tuition is based on your date of registration, not the date of tuition payment or the date of the workshop. Seating is limited to 32 participants, reservations are necessary, tuition includes all materials, walk-ins are not allowed. Tuition payment is not required at the time of enrollment. Purchase orders and all other forms of payment are welcome. For more information, graduate testimonials and instant, online enrollment, visit http://GrantWritingUSA.com. For more info contact: Grant Writing USA 702.739.9221 rod@grantwritingusa.com ### -- To instantly and automatically remove yourself from our files, visit this frighteningly long but highly effective link: http://lists.grantwritingusa.com/?p=unsubscribe&hash=bf37bde4b8980cae901ea1adcacf2273 Prefer to receive messages in HTML format? Visit http://lists.grantwritingusa.com/?p=preferences&uid=bf37bde4b8980cae901ea1adcacf2273 -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com -- From AZDesertGal@att.net Wed Jan 29 05:43:51 2003 From: AZDesertGal@att.net (AZDesertGal@att.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:43:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301290543.h0T5hpB16178@Ag.arizona.edu> Usually this time of year I prune my shrubs, rosebushes, mulberry tree. Since the weather has been so warm and my roses are blooming can these still be pruned as well as all other shrubs and trees? From sbstenson@aol.com Wed Jan 29 14:50:53 2003 From: sbstenson@aol.com (sbstenson@aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:50:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301291450.h0TEorB20662@Ag.arizona.edu> Questionnaires I've answered indicate that my soil may have a fungus of some sort. New plants I've purchased, even though fed and watered correctly, do not flourish and seldom even live (except roses.) Seeds I scatter don't grow. I covered one garden with black tarp for two months last summer and that section is doing well now, but I have a space that is three times the size that I still have to contend with, and it is the area with the roses. I also had a problem with rust and removed those shrubs. What is the best way to determine the problem? Thank you so much. From applebear@webtv.net Wed Jan 29 15:33:12 2003 From: applebear@webtv.net (patti iannon) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:33:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] hibiscus plant Message-ID: <18383-3E37F438-211@storefull-2116.public.lawson.webtv.net> I have two hibiscus plants. One is mine that I've had for about four years. The other was given to me. The leaves on the plants are different but the flowers are the same. I've seen pictures of the leaves and the one given to me looks normal. I just wondered if the leaves can be different. patti smile!!! From Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com Wed Jan 29 15:39:41 2003 From: Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com (Zelhart Alan-rpcs30) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B9930704DA4270@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> Yes, you can go ahead and prune them back as you normally do. It will not hurt anything. Special Note: Remember, keep those pruners cleaned with alcohol, or 4 cups of water to 1 cup bleach, in-between pruning each rose bush. We have a fungus that is increasingly causing more troublesome in keeping roses healthy, called Black Cane Canker. If you see your canes dieing back from where you have pruned, and moving toward the bud union, that is the Black Cane Canker. Try to prune an inch or so below that and keep those pruners sterilized. I have friends who have lost many roses to this fungus. It is most commonly spread during the cooler months, like now. If it spreads down to your bud union, it can kill the entire bush. I cannot stress enough how important this is. It spreads pretty fast down the cane. Chat with you later, Alan -- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-listowner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere. -----Original Message----- From: AZDesertGal@att.net [mailto:AZDesertGal@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:44 PM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Usually this time of year I prune my shrubs, rosebushes, mulberry tree. Since the weather has been so warm and my roses are blooming can these still be pruned as well as all other shrubs and trees? _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jcduston@hotmail.com Wed Jan 29 16:52:06 2003 From: jcduston@hotmail.com (jcduston@hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:52:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301291652.h0TGq6B20582@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a 30yr. old dwarf navel with end rot. Of the multitude of possible oranges, I got 10-20 that were really nice; the rest fell off or are quite small and may get trashed. I am ready to cut it down if I can't cure the disease. Can it be cured? From imruhestand@worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 29 17:01:07 2003 From: imruhestand@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:01:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Leak in Drip Connection References: <200301282328.h0SNSFB25230@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <005001c2c7b8$08f02160$4453530c@olin> If you run it at line pressure or have the line pressurized at all times, dripping at the joint may be fairly common. But with a 25-30 psi regulator, it should not drip - at least mine don't. It may also depend on how you make the compression connection, i.e., push it straight in instead of rotating which could score the tubing and allow some leakage. It is also a good idea to shade the connection or cover it with mulch to protect it from the hot sun which could weaken the connection or it may even come apart in the July-August sun - something they don't seem at talk about in the ads or the How-To books. . And I would not keep the dripline pressurized unless I was actually irrigating. An "occasional drip" at the joint only would not be a problem for me, but this would depend on a quantitative definition of how much water is dripping. Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: > Poly. drip tube & fittings, Is a Coupling, Tee or Elbo for 5/8" tube 100% leak free or is an occasional drip from a fitting acceptable? From bayers@honors.arizona.edu Wed Jan 29 17:50:45 2003 From: bayers@honors.arizona.edu (Jim Bayers) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:50:45 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Trumpet Vine Pruning Message-ID: <90826293E4E6C140B57503142E4895B40B6E87@server.honors.arizona.edu> I've got some trumpet vine growing on a redwood trellis up against a wall. When I planted it, I was hoping it would fan out along the trellis. It didn't. It climbed as high as it could go. How do I go about pruning it so that it branches out and fills up the trellis? Thanks, - Jim From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 29 22:10:31 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pruning Roses Message-ID: <003101c2c7e3$3dead920$c91d0a3f@ibmbna6040> January is the time to prune your roses here in the low desert. Because of the warmer than normal temps this year the roses have bloomed beautifully. I've been pruning roses all month doing those that have finished blooming. Time is running short to finish pruning and I still have rose bushes full of blooms, so I will just cut lots of bouquets and finish the pruning. If you havent fertilized the roses it is time to do that. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener and Consulting Rosarian -----Original Message----- From: AZDesertGal@att.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Usually this time of year I prune my shrubs, rosebushes, mulberry tree. Since the weather has been so warm and my roses are blooming can these still be pruned as well as all other shrubs and trees? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 29 22:56:41 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:56:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fertilizing Citrus Message-ID: <007a01c2c7e9$b2c41ee0$c91d0a3f@ibmbna6040> U of A Extension bulletin CITRUS TREES IN THE HOME GARDEN says to apply to mature citrus trees one pound of actual nitrogen per year applied in February, May and July. Using a fertilizer such as amonium sulfate 21-0-0 which is 21 % nitrogen 5 pounds per year should be used. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: bdsmor@oco.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >How much and how often should i fertize my orange and grapefruit trees. They are about 9 years old. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu Wed Jan 29 22:54:50 2003 From: kmoore@Ag.arizona.edu (Kathleen Moore) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Rose Class this Saturday Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030129154056.00b896e0@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_21785545==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Basic Rose Gardening Class is this Saturday February 1, 2003 from 1-4:00 pm at the Main Extension Office on Broadway Does anything else smell as sweet? Roses grow well in the desert when you know the tricks! Learn what it takes to have a glorious show. You'll learn planting, pruning, watering, and fertilizing. Cost to the public $20. Tell your friends and neighbors. Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP and so we have an accurate count of how many are coming. Don't forget about our other exciting classes coming up...... Herb Gardening Part 1 Tuesday February 4, 2003 6:00-8:30 pm Healthy herbs. Learn the basics about growing savories for your kitchen, perfumes for your bath and home, plus much more! Join us for this 2 part series. Part 1-plant selection, site preparation and cultural requirements. Part 2 how to use these diverse plants, companion plantings, and recipes! Cost $20 if you sign up for part 2 receive a $5 discount Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP Container Gardening Saturday February 8, 2003 9:00-12:00 pm You can get big results in small spaces. We can hardly contain ourselves! We will share our secrets for growing a fabulous container garden in any season. Learn the tricks of plant selection and enjoy beautiful year round color. Cost $20 Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP Herb Gardening Part 2 Tuesday February 11, 2003 6-8:30 pm Part 2 how to use these diverse plants, companion plantings, and recipes! Cost $20 if you sign up for part 1 as well receive a $5 discount Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP --=====================_21785545==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Basic Rose Gardening Class is this Saturday
February 1, 2003 from 1-4:00 pm
at the Main Extension Office on Broadway

Does anything else smell as sweet? Roses grow well in the desert when you know the tricks! Learn what it takes to have a glorious show. You�ll learn planting, pruning, watering, and fertilizing.

Cost to the public $20. Tell your friends and neighbors.

Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP and so we have an accurate count of how many are coming.

Don't forget about our other exciting classes coming up......

Herb Gardening Part 1
Tuesday February 4, 2003 6:00-8:30 pm
Healthy herbs. Learn the basics about growing savories for your kitchen, perfumes for your bath and home, plus much more! Join us for this 2 part series. Part 1-plant selection, site preparation and cultural requirements. Part 2 how to use these diverse plants, companion plantings, and recipes!

Cost $20 if you sign up for part 2 receive a $5 discount

Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP

Container Gardening
Saturday February 8, 2003 9:00-12:00 pm
You can get big results in small spaces. We can hardly contain ourselves! We will share our secrets for growing a fabulous container garden in any season. Learn the tricks of plant selection and enjoy beautiful year round color.

Cost $20

Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP

Herb Gardening Part 2
Tuesday February 11, 2003 6-8:30 pm
Part 2 how to use these diverse plants, companion plantings, and recipes!

Cost $20 if you sign up for part 1 as well receive a $5 discount

Please call (602) 470-8086 x823 to RSVP --=====================_21785545==_.ALT-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Wed Jan 29 23:12:15 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Naval Orange End Rot Message-ID: <008301c2c7eb$de01d820$c91d0a3f@ibmbna6040> The disease that you have described sounds like a fungus called Alternaria. Unfortunately there is no known cure for this fungus. To confirm this diagnosis bring sample fruit to Maricopa County Cooperative Extension, 4341 E. Broadway, Phoenix 85040. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: jcduston@hotmail.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >I have a 30yr. old dwarf navel with end rot. Of the multitude of possible oranges, I got 10-20 that were really nice; the rest fell off or are quite small and may get trashed. I am ready to cut it down if I can't cure the disease. Can it be cured? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From cstephens@infinet-is.com Thu Jan 30 03:38:47 2003 From: cstephens@infinet-is.com (Charles Stephens) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:38:47 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fertilizing Citrus References: <007a01c2c7e9$b2c41ee0$c91d0a3f@ibmbna6040> Message-ID: <001501c2c811$1a601960$9e86dfd1@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C7D6.6CB18FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rod is right about fertilizing your orange trees. However I would = suggest that you use only half that amount on the grapefruit trees as = recommended in Maricopa County Cooperative Extension Bulletin MC 91. I = learned the hard way that too much nitrogen causes very thick rinds and = sheep nose shape on grapefruit. Charlie Stephens Master Gardener Phoenix ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net=20 To: bdsmor@oco.net=20 Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fertilizing Citrus U of A Extension bulletin CITRUS TREES IN THE HOME GARDEN says to = apply to mature citrus trees one pound of actual nitrogen per year applied in February, May and July. Using a fertilizer such as amonium sulfate 21-0-0 which is 21 % = nitrogen 5 pounds per year should be used. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: bdsmor@oco.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >How much and how often should i fertize my orange and grapefruit = trees. They are about 9 years old. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C7D6.6CB18FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rod is right about fertilizing your = orange trees.=20 However I would suggest that you use only half that amount on the = grapefruit=20 trees as recommended in Maricopa County Cooperative Extension Bulletin = MC 91. I=20 learned the hard way that too much nitrogen causes very thick rinds and = sheep=20 nose shape on grapefruit.

Charlie Stephens
Master=20 Gardener
Phoenix

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Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu =

Sent: Wednesday, January 29, = 2003 3:56=20 PM

Subject: [Arid_gardener] = Fertilizing=20 Citrus

U of A Extension bulletin CITRUS TREES IN THE HOME = GARDEN says=20 to apply to
mature citrus trees one pound of actual nitrogen per = year=20 applied in
February, May and July.
Using a fertilizer such as = amonium=20 sulfate 21-0-0 which is 21 % nitrogen 5
pounds per year should be=20 used.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2C7D6.6CB18FE0-- From kdavidross@aol.com Thu Jan 30 16:14:19 2003 From: kdavidross@aol.com (kdavidross@aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:14:19 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301301614.h0UGEJB21276@Ag.arizona.edu> I have three citrus trees in my backyard and need some advice on trimming them. Where would i find a step-by-step instructional manual? Thank you. Ken Ross From jerry@intrec.com Thu Jan 30 16:47:14 2003 From: jerry@intrec.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:47:14 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control Message-ID: A Phx valley neighbor is having problems w/oxalis in lawn (they thought it was clover). What suggested controls can be used to stop, or at least slow oxalis from spreading? How does oxalis propagate and is it carried/distributed by birds? -- Jerry Cline From jerry@intrec.com Thu Jan 30 16:54:29 2003 From: jerry@intrec.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:54:29 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mediterranean Palms Message-ID: A friend in Mesa in has a Mediterranean Palm and it is mostly the shade of large mature grapefruit trees. the plant has grown tall and rangy, and is out of proportion with its planted area. They would like to be able to cut all or some of the four tall trunks back and encourage new growth from lower down, or it's root area. Is this possible or even recommended? Are their any bulletins that cover such a procedure as well as the care and feeding of Mediterranean palms? -- Jerry Cline Master Gardener - (First graduate group) The best fertilizer is the gardener's own footsteps. -Chinese proverb From Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com Thu Jan 30 17:33:07 2003 From: Alan.Zelhart@motorola.com (Zelhart Alan-rpcs30) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:33:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control Message-ID: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B9930704DA4318@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> Jerry is that the stuff with the little yellow flowers? I'm having trouble with that too. It was a gift from Home Depot with a potted rose I bought one year...grrrr! ;) Would love to know how to get rid of it! It spreads like wild fire! Chat with you later, Alan -- Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 http://www.GardenersCorner.com ----- Alan Zelhart gizmoaz@cox.net Gardens Co-listowner http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html ----- This is a message from God: "Rebooting the universe, please log out" -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Cline [mailto:jerry@intrec.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:47 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control A Phx valley neighbor is having problems w/oxalis in lawn (they thought it was clover). What suggested controls can be used to stop, or at least slow oxalis from spreading? How does oxalis propagate and is it carried/distributed by birds? -- Jerry Cline _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From jerry@intrec.com Thu Jan 30 17:41:36 2003 From: jerry@intrec.com (Jerry Cline) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:41:36 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control In-Reply-To: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B9930704DA4318@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> References: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B9930704DA4318@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: At 10:33 AM -0700 1/30/03, Zelhart Alan-rpcs30 wrote: > I'm having trouble with that too. It was a gift Yep! that's the stuff. -- Jerry Cline Master Gardener - (First graduate group) The best fertilizer is the gardener's own footsteps. -Chinese proverb From lsveith@swlink.net Thu Jan 30 17:48:38 2003 From: lsveith@swlink.net (lsveith@swlink.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:48:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301301748.h0UHmcB13927@Ag.arizona.edu> We have an area on the north side of the house we were thinking about replacing the gravel with grass. It gets very little if any sun is there a grass you would recommend. In advance, thank you Leland Veith From lsveith@swlink.net Thu Jan 30 17:50:40 2003 From: lsveith@swlink.net (lsveith@swlink.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:50:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301301750.h0UHoeB14382@Ag.arizona.edu> Do ornamental grasses become dormant this time of year. I planted these about November and they looked OK until that last few weeks. Now they look kind of dried out, even thought the surrounding soil is damp. Thank You From gusnaz@worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 30 19:03:30 2003 From: gusnaz@worldnet.att.net (Gus Nelson) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:03:30 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) Message-ID: <009701c2c892$4b5d95c0$e050530c@computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C2C857.9AE67660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, Is it a good time to trim back Mexican bird of Paradise? What height = should you trim back too? Thanks Gus Nelson ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C2C857.9AE67660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello All,

Is it a good time to trim = back Mexican=20 bird of Paradise? What height should you trim back too? Thanks Gus=20 Nelson

------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C2C857.9AE67660-- From Olin Miller" <001501c2c811$1a601960$9e86dfd1@default> Message-ID: <002901c2c89d$18cf1380$4650530c@olin> I would suggest excess nitrogen may not be the only cause of thick peels and sheep nosed grapefruit. My Texas Ruby tree has been in the ground for about 20 years and there have been long intervals, up to 5 years or more, that I did not fertilize at all. But I have always had thick peels on the grapefruit and also on the Lisbon lemons which I rarely fertilize. I had always assumed thick peels are a response to cool weather or due to a genetic factor. I had also assumed the sheep nose condition was due either to genes or over watering which might cause the fruit to be too heavy causing it to deform at the stem end. -Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Stephens" Rod is right about fertilizing your orange trees. However I would suggest that you use only half that amount on the grapefruit trees as recommended in Maricopa County Cooperative Extension Bulletin MC 91. I learned the hard way that too much nitrogen causes very thick rinds and sheep nose shape on grapefruit. Charlie Stephens Master Gardener Phoenix ----- Original Message ----- From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net To: Cc: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Fertilizing Citrus U of A Extension bulletin CITRUS TREES IN THE HOME GARDEN says to apply to mature citrus trees one pound of actual nitrogen per year applied in February, May and July. Using a fertilizer such as amonium sulfate 21-0-0 which is 21 % nitrogen 5 pounds per year should be used. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: bdsmor@oco.net To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >How much and how often should i fertize my orange and grapefruit trees. They are about 9 years old. > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From erd85018@aol.com Thu Jan 30 21:25:18 2003 From: erd85018@aol.com (erd85018@aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:25:18 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree in back but not 1 in front Message-ID: --part1_b4.1795f206.2b6af23e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Small trees planting by landlord about 5 months ago. Mine has very few leafs left. Tree in front house has all its leafs. What can I do? Cloud it be over watering? Thank you. Robert --part1_b4.1795f206.2b6af23e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Small trees planting by landlord about 5 months ago. Mine has very few leafs
left. Tree in front house has all its leafs. What can I do? Cloud it be over
watering?
Thank you.
Robert --part1_b4.1795f206.2b6af23e_boundary-- From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 22:42:41 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:42:41 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree in back but no Message-ID: The leaf drop on your mesquite could be due to a number of factors, such as a different variety from those in front, transplant shock, colder temperatures in your yard. Hybrids are common in Prosopis and even if the plants were bought at the same time from the same nursery they may show variations. Watering could also be a factor. Can you tell us more about how you are watering? If you have information about how the trees in the front are watered that would be helpful, too. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: erd85018@aol.com >To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree in >back but not 1 in front >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:25:18 EST > >Small trees planting by landlord about 5 months ago. Mine has very few >leafs >left. Tree in front house has all its leafs. What can I do? Cloud it be >over >watering? >Thank you. >Robert _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 22:54:52 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:54:52 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Bird of Paradise, pruning Message-ID: There are several different bird of paradise plants; I think you are asking about red bird of paradise (Caesalpinia pulcherrima), it has brilliant red flowers from late spring to fall. Pruning is in late winter or early spring after danger of frost is past (about now). Cut stems back to 6 to 12 inches above the ground for complte renewal. The Mexican poinciana has yellow flowers and green leaves. Prune after spring flowers cease. the desert bird of paradise has yellow flowers with showy red stamens. Prune it in the winter. Cascalote has yellow-red flowers at branch ends. Prune it after flowering has completed its cycle in winter. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: "Gus Nelson" >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject) >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:03:30 -0700 > >Hello All, > Is it a good time to trim back Mexican bird of Paradise? What height >should you trim back too? Thanks Gus Nelson _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 22:59:54 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:59:54 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] ornamental grass, dormant Message-ID: THere are many different kinds of ornamental grasses. Several of them are cut back to about six inches in late winter to stimulate fresh growth. If you can tell us what type of ornamental grass you have, we could give more specific advice. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: lsveith@swlink.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:50:40 -0700 (MST) > >Do ornamental grasses become dormant this time of year. I planted these >about November and they looked OK until that last few weeks. Now they look >kind of dried out, even thought the surrounding soil is damp. >Thank You > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 23:09:16 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:09:16 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] grass for shady area Message-ID: The turf grasses that do well here (various bermuda hybrids) need sun. You might want to try a different groundcover such as dichondra, creeping thyme or liriope, as well as others. The choice would also depend on whether you expect foot traffic in the area or not. If you want native groundcover, there are several possiblities including some of the trailing DAleas, but again these perform better with some sun. Please give us more information about how you want to use the area and we may be able to give you other ideas. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: lsveith@swlink.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:48:38 -0700 (MST) > >We have an area on the north side of the house we were thinking about >replacing the gravel with grass. It gets very little if any sun is there a >grass you would recommend. >In advance, thank you >Leland Veith > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Thu Jan 30 23:06:07 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:06:07 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree in back but not 1 in front Message-ID: <004d01c2c8b7$53839d60$1c31db43@ibmbna6040> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2C879.7FD293A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert , It is common for mesquites to drop their leaves during the winter here = in the low desert but that doesn't mean that they will always do that. Yes overwatering could cause leaf drop. Check out these sites for watering info: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html http://www.amwua.org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: erd85018@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree = in back but not 1 in front Small trees planting by landlord about 5 months ago. Mine has very few = leafs left. Tree in front house has all its leafs. What can I do? Cloud = it be over=20 watering? Thank you. Robert=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2C879.7FD293A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Robert ,

It is common for mesquites to drop their leaves = during the=20 winter here in the low desert but that doesn't mean that they will = always do=20 that.

Yes overwatering could cause leaf drop.

Check out these sites for watering = info:

http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/arboriculture/watering.html

http://www.amwua= .org/xscp-wateringschedules.htm

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 erd85018@aol.com <erd85018@aol.com>
To: = arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= =20 <arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= >
Date:=20 Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: = [Arid_gardener]=20 Prosopis spp Mesquite leaves falling off tree in back but not 1 in=20 front

Small trees planting by landlord about 5 = months ago.=20 Mine has very few leafs
left. Tree in front house has all its = leafs. What can I do? Cloud it be over =
watering?
Thank=20 you.
Robert ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2C879.7FD293A0-- From rodmmcq6@highstream.net Thu Jan 30 23:28:06 2003 From: rodmmcq6@highstream.net (rodmmcq6@highstream.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:28:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Citrus,Pruning Message-ID: <004f01c2c8b7$563b6a60$1c31db43@ibmbna6040> Citrus trees should not be pruned except to remove dead wood, crossing branches, wayward growth and any suckers that grow from beneath the graft. Removing anything that shades the trunk or branches will allow the tree to sunburn which could be the start of the trees demise especially if the trunk is sunburned. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener -----Original Message----- From: kdavidross@aol.com To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Date: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >I have three citrus trees in my backyard and need some advice on trimming them. Where would i find a step-by-step instructional manual? > >Thank you. > >Ken Ross > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 23:16:29 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:16:29 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control Message-ID: Oxalis is a perennial with running rootstocks. If you select an herbicide containing 2,4-D it will control many broadleaf weeds with minimal effect on the turfgrass when applied at the recommended rates (it destroys weeds selectively). Follow label directions carefully and apply just to the oxalis if possible. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: Jerry Cline >To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:47:14 -0700 > > >A Phx valley neighbor is having problems w/oxalis in lawn (they thought it >was clover). What suggested controls can be used to stop, or at least slow >oxalis from spreading? > >How does oxalis propagate and is it carried/distributed by birds? > >-- >Jerry Cline > > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From drew_linda@hotmail.com Thu Jan 30 23:24:02 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:24:02 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mediterranean Palms Message-ID: All palms are monocots (related to grasses) and the growing point is at the tip/crown of the plant. Mediterranean palms do produce pups/side shoots. However, I would caution against cutting out the growing points. This web page has a document on palms: http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021/ Linda Drew Masater Gardener >From: Jerry Cline >To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Mediterranean Palms >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:54:29 -0700 > > >A friend in Mesa in has a Mediterranean Palm and it is mostly the shade of >large mature grapefruit trees. the plant has grown tall and rangy, and is >out of proportion with its planted area. They would like to be able to cut >all or some of the four tall trunks back and encourage new growth from >lower down, or it's root area. Is this possible or even recommended? > >Are their any bulletins that cover such a procedure as well as the care and >feeding of Mediterranean palms? > >-- >Jerry Cline >Master Gardener - (First graduate group) >The best fertilizer is the gardener's own footsteps. -Chinese proverb > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From kathy.dietz@asu.edu Thu Jan 30 23:36:16 2003 From: kathy.dietz@asu.edu (kathy.dietz@asu.edu) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:36:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301302336.h0UNaGB10374@Ag.arizona.edu> Please help! Our beautiful citrus trees are losing all their leaves, many of which have turned yellow. Our yield this year is half of what it was in the past. I am really worried about them and watering doesn't seem to help. I appreciate any advice/help you can give. Kathy Dietz From geodrum@att.net Fri Jan 31 02:24:46 2003 From: geodrum@att.net (George D) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:24:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control References: <37019C4D4EBED511A98100D0B7B9930704DA4318@az33exm25.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: <3E39DE6E.1F2F150@worldnet.att.net> This may sound to simple however I think it will work and is cheap and somewhat Green. Spray it with common vinegar. Vinegar will kill many broadleaf somewhat tender plants including Burr Clover, George Drum Not a Master Gardener Zelhart Alan-rpcs30 wrote: > > Jerry is that the stuff with the little yellow flowers? I'm having trouble with that too. It was a gift from Home Depot with a potted rose I bought one year...grrrr! ;) Would love to know how to get rid of it! It spreads like wild fire! > > Chat with you later, > Alan > -- > Chandler, Arizona Sunset Zone: 13 > http://www.GardenersCorner.com > ----- > Alan Zelhart > gizmoaz@cox.net > Gardens Co-listowner > http://www.gardenerscorner.com/notes.html > ----- > This is a message from God: "Rebooting the universe, please log out" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Cline [mailto:jerry@intrec.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:47 AM > To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu > Subject: [Arid_gardener] Oxalis control > > A Phx valley neighbor is having problems w/oxalis in lawn (they > thought it was clover). What suggested controls can be used to stop, > or at least slow oxalis from spreading? > > How does oxalis propagate and is it carried/distributed by birds? > > -- > Jerry Cline > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener -- George D Phoenix, AZ The reward for a good deed is to have done it. Please use this address to mail me. Or remove the arizona in the link. Remember there is no Arizona. geodrum@att.net ALL emails incoming and outgoing are run thru Norton and AVG anti virus. From LindaMartin7@cox.net Fri Jan 31 16:45:44 2003 From: LindaMartin7@cox.net (LindaMartin7@cox.net) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:45:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301311645.h0VGjiB22582@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a 2 1/2 foot leggy hibiscus - is it safe to cut it back for bushy growth later? From Sleepwboss@aol.com Fri Jan 31 22:10:06 2003 From: Sleepwboss@aol.com (Sleepwboss@aol.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:10:06 EST Subject: [Arid_gardener] Rabbit vs. Plants Message-ID: <1ec.b9669b.2b6c4e3e@aol.com> --part1_1ec.b9669b.2b6c4e3e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/03 9:11:28 AM Central Standard Time, sandypac@earthlink.net writes: > > can you tell me what type and name of shrubs, palms, desert plants, that > rabbits wont eat. They are driving me crazy.... Sandy, below is a list of some plants rabbits usually won't eat. BUT remember its been a drought year in the Phoenix area, so you can't blame the critters too much for munching! agaves (Agave spp.) aloes (Aloe spp.) Arizona yellow bells (Tecoma stans) asters (Aster spp.) autumn sage (Salvia greggii) brittlebush (Encelia farinosa) chuparosa (Justicia californica) corn creosote (Larrea tridentata) cucumber desert marigold (Baileya multiradiata) sotol (Dasylirion wheeleri) euphorbias fairy duster (Calliandra californica (Baja) and Calliandra eriophylla) feathery cassia (Cassia artemisioides) gazania (Gazania spp.) hummingbir bush (Justicia californica) Mexican bird of paradise (Caesalpinia mexicana) Mexican oregano Penstemon eatoni queen's wreath (Antigonon leptopus) rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) Chaparral sage (Salvia clevelandii) squash Texas Mountain Laurel (Sophora secundiflora) verbena (Verbena spp.) yuccas (Yucca spp.) Hope that helps, Lee Ann Aronson --part1_1ec.b9669b.2b6c4e3e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/03 9:11:28 AM Central Standard Time, sandypac@earthlink.net writes:

can you tell me what type and name of shrubs, palms, desert plants, that rabbits wont eat. They are driving me crazy....

Sandy, below is a list of some plants rabbits usually won't eat. BUT remember its been a drought year in the Phoenix area, so you can't blame the critters too much for munching!

agaves        (Agave spp.)
aloes           (Aloe spp.)
Arizona yellow bells (Tecoma stans)
asters          (Aster spp.)
autumn sage     (Salvia greggii)
brittlebush        (Encelia farinosa)
chuparosa         (Justicia californica)
corn
creosote            (Larrea tridentata)
cucumber
desert marigold (Baileya multiradiata)
sotol           (Dasylirion wheeleri)
euphorbias
fairy duster        (Calliandra californica (Baja) and Calliandra eriophylla)
feathery cassia   (Cassia artemisioides)
gazania             (Gazania spp.)
hummingbir bush   (Justicia californica)
Mexican bird of paradise (Caesalpinia mexicana)
Mexican oregano
Penstemon eatoni
queen's wreath (Antigonon leptopus)
rosemary          (Rosmarinus officinalis)
Chaparral sage (Salvia clevelandii)
squash
Texas Mountain Laurel (Sophora secundiflora)
verbena            (Verbena spp.)
yuccas        (Yucca spp.)

Hope that helps,
Lee Ann Aronson
--part1_1ec.b9669b.2b6c4e3e_boundary-- From ccromell@Ag.arizona.edu Fri Jan 31 23:38:28 2003 From: ccromell@Ag.arizona.edu (Cathy Cromell) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:38:28 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Re: composting question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > >Message: 4 > >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:12:23 -0700 (MST) > >To: > >From: ksheehan@aerotechlabs.com > >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page > > > >What is the best kind of compost bin/container to use outside? I would > >like as much info on making my own compost here north of Phoenix I agree with an earlier reply that said the bin is not nearly as important as the process. Here's a few pointers: Chop organic matter as small as possible. The smaller the pieces, the faster the rate of decomposition. Keep the pile moist. When it dries out, the rate of decomposition slows drastically. Use a mix of nitrogen materials, such as grass clippings, manures, coffee grounds (coffee shops will save them for you), kitchen scraps (no meat or dairy), and leafy plants, and carbon materials, such as dried leaves, shredded paper, and woody plant trimmings. Use about 1/3 nitrogen and 2/3 carbon, or half and half, depending on what you have available. Pile size should be at least one cubic yard (3 feet x 3 feet x 3 feet), which provides enough mass to keep the pile insulated and is still easy to manage. Toss all the materials together like a salad, or make layers a couple inches thick. Doesn't really matter. It's more important to moisten the pile as you build up, so everything is the consistency of a damp sponge. If you make the pile and then try to water it from the top, the water finds a channel to the ground, like a river, and most of the material stays dry. The more frequently you turn and water the pile, the faster you'll have useable compost. The microorganisms doing the work need oxygen and water to live and reproduce. A pitchfork works best for turning the bulky organic matter. A shovel is better once it has decomposed into compost. Some good books on composting include: Let it Rot! The Gardener's Guide to Composting, Storey Publications, and Desert Gardening for Beginners, Arizona Master Gardener Press. >Compost! Because a rind is a terrible thing to waste! Cathy Cromell Instructional Specialist University of Arizona Cooperative Extension Arizona Master Gardener Press 4341 E. Broadway Road Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807 602/470-8086, ext. 312 602/470-8092 FAX ccromell@ag.arizona.edu "Success with School Gardens" "Desert Gardening for Beginners" "Desert Landscaping for Beginners" http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/ From drew_linda@hotmail.com Fri Jan 31 23:54:24 2003 From: drew_linda@hotmail.com (Linda Drew) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:54:24 +0000 Subject: [Arid_gardener] pruning hibiscus Message-ID: I think you can prune about 1/3 of the old growth now to stimulate growth. Selectively prune branches and do not trim into box or globe shape - keep the natural look. Pruning stimulates growth, so be careful to provide frost protection if we get more cool nights this winter. Linda Drew Master Gardener >From: LindaMartin7@cox.net >To: >Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:45:44 -0700 (MST) > >I have a 2 1/2 foot leggy hibiscus - is it safe to cut it back for bushy >growth later? > >_______________________________________________ >Arid_gardener mailing list >Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu >http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From clariceburke@cs.com Fri Jan 3 21:38:42 2003 From: clariceburke@cs.com (clariceburke@cs.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:38:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200301032138.h03Lcf129341@Ag.arizona.edu> When is the best time to prune a fig tree? My tree is small, only about three years old. How many main branches shall I leave on it, and how short should they be cut? Thank you for whatever help you may be able to provide. From bkcollins@earthlink.net Fri Jan 3 22:23:27 2003 From: bkcollins@earthlink.net (Bev Collins) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:27 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Converting lawn to desert landscape Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C2B33C.109CB3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just moved from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf lawn. I plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info available to help me do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how long will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How long should I wait after using an herbicide like Roundup before planting anything? 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Good luck.

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Master Gardener

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From:=20 Bev Collins <bkcollins@earthlink.net>To:=20 Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= =20 <Arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu= >
Date:=20 Monday, January 06, 2003 7:47 AM
Subject: = [Arid_gardener]=20 Converting lawn to desert landscape

I've = just moved=20 from Phoenix to El Paso and purchased a home with a large turf = lawn. I=20 plan to kill and remove the grass and am looking for all the info = available to=20 help me do it right the first time. Is there a 'best' time of=20 year? I'd like to use lots of agave in my new landscape, but how = long=20 will the effects of a monocot herbicide remain in the soil? How = long=20 should I wait after using an herbicide like Roundup before planting=20 anything? Is it OK to install the new landscape with dicots = right away?=20 Any other important points that I may have overlooked? How 'bout = the=20 birds we feed every day - are these herbicides toxic for=20 them?

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Hi there.

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Oh, and they should be attractive…. Any = suggestions?

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Thank you ,

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I found your email address on this website while I = was=20 surfing.

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Janie

Tom,

The trunk is very soft and I had = problems with the=20 cat using it as a scratching post so I put some hardware cloth = around it=20 for protection.

The Tipu sports branches in a very = unorganized=20 fashion and up close can look pretty weird, but this is the style and = try not to=20 prune too much.

Good luck and congratulations on a = wonderful choice=20 for a tree.

Steve Drew

Tom wrote:

Just last week I called around to see which nurseries would get Persimmon trees, and I found out that Bakers (in Phoenix) would, and I believe they just got their new shipment of trees.

Barbara

LLJ <llj@camalott.com> wrote:

Hello,

I want to buy a friend who lives in Arizona a Persimmon Tree to add to his garden for his birthday. Can you recommend a nursery in the Tucson or Phoenix area that might be able to help me with this project? Would this be the right time for planting?

Thank you ,

Louise

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I found your email address on this website while I was surfing.

http://ag.arizona.edu/pipermail/arid_gardener/2000-January/003068.html

Lee

Hi Lee,

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:45 AM
To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
Subject: [Arid_gardener] (no subject)

I have a lavender that appears healthy on one side and wilting on the other! Is this common? I also have a 4th of July Rose starting it's 2nd year in about 4 months. Do I need to prune or anything else at this time?

Lee

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Date:	Mon, 13 Jan 2003 09:42:49 -0700
From:	"Clickbox Pro" <john@clickboxpro.com>
To:	lindaguy@qwest.net

Hello,

What do you think this indicates?? Could it be too much water? Not enough?? Is it just because it is now winter??

Thanks

John Lekas
Clickbox Productions
www.clickboxpro.com
john@clickboxpro.com

Margo Van Den Berg

New to AZ. When is the Citrus = ripe and ready=20 to pick?

Thanks,

Theresa

-- 
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 The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

rendon2 wrote:

New to AZ. When is the Citrus ripe and ready to pick?

is there a "best" way to prune table = grapes=20 (Thompson seedless) and a soil additive that will produce an edible crop = and not=20 little tiny bitter grapes?

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

Also, what represents the basics for = growing these=20 trees? Is there a variety that does best in our difficult = summers? =20 My primary desire for these plants is for their fruit.

Thank you.

Robert

Th= at’s pretty expensive. But = these are VERY slow-growing plants and that may be the reason for the high = price.

I = have a number of miniature pomegranates that cost the standard $4.95 per pot = but it takes a long time for them to get any = size.

Ursula Miller

Not = A Master Gardener

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Also, what represents the basics for growing these trees? Is there a = variety that does best in our difficult summers? My primary desire for = these plants is for their fruit.<= /p>

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Hello all,

so any advice would be MOST=20 APPRECIATED.

Our thanks in anticipation