Subject:	propagating red yucca
Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0500
From:	"jane" <jane1@starband.net>
To:	lindaguy@qwest.net

Subject:

propagating red yucca

Date:

Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:51:01 -0500

From:

"jane" <jane1@starband.net>

To:

lindaguy@qwest.net

Subject:	pruning orange trees
Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:04:18 -0400
From:	"John" <travel13@worldnet.att.net>
To:	lindaguy@qwest.net

Subject:

pruning orange trees

Date:

Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:04:18 -0400

From:

"John" <travel13@worldnet.att.net>

To:

lindaguy@qwest.net

University of Arizona Cooperative = Extension=20 publishes a bulletin on palm
care titled ARIZONA LANDSCAPE PALMS = available on=20 line at:
http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1021.pdf

This bulletin states that most species of palms = should be=20 deep watered in summer every couple weeks.

Good luck.

Rod McKusick

Master Gardener

------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C38DB5.D75E8A00-- From the_idoru@hotmail.com Wed Oct 8 23:02:16 2003 From: the_idoru@hotmail.com (the_idoru@hotmail.com) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:02:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Message-ID: <200310082302.h98N2GQ4003814@Ag.arizona.edu> I have a question about a weed infestation that I have in my front yard. There is a single type of weed that is growing in the yard, and it's so successful that it is killing whole patches of grass. I'll try to describe it: It's short, each plant is a single stem, maybe 5 inches long max. The stem and leaves are a reddish-green color. Each plant has numerous leaves that branch off in pairs directly from the stem. There are no branches off the stem otherwise. There are what appear to be small seed bundles along the stem, in between the leaf pairs. It grows only in direct sunlight. Basically, there are a million of these little buggers growing in the front yard, and they are so successful that despite their diminutive size they are taking over and killing the grass. They started growing this summer, and I tried pulling them, but inevitably I would miss a whole lot. I've tried a spray-on "kill the weeds not the grass" type herbicide that is supposedly good for killing broad-leaf plants, but this weed just laughed it off and thanked me for watering it. I'm sure a picture would help, and I will gladly take one upon request. Alternatively, I could stop by with a sample of the plant. Could I please get some advice as to what kind of steps I can take to kill this while hopefully not killing the grass? Worst case scenario, my front yard (it's small) goes desert landscape, but I need to know how to kill this thing in case it spreads to the back yard, which I can't turn desert. Thank you. From rodmcq6@highstream.net Wed Oct 8 23:43:38 2003 From: rodmcq6@highstream.net (Rod) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Italian Cypress Ailing References: <20031004171640.SWBH1644.fed1mtao04.cox.net@[68.2.168.205]> Message-ID: <009401c38df6$017ac480$d531db43@ibmbna6040> Mark, I would suspect spider mites even though you said that you did not see webs. Mites are very small and difficult to see. Hold a white sheet of paper under a branch as you shake it. You will be able to see the mites on the white paper. A strong spray of water will often dislodge the mites unless the infestion is bad. In this case use a miticide spray. I would not recommend applying fertilizer more then once a year. The Arizona Cypress is subject to injury from nitrogen and the Italian Cypress is the same genus. Good luck. Rod Mckusick Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sarantos" To: Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: [Arid_gardener] ....ailing Italian Cypress > > > Arid Gardener-- > My 15-year-old 20-foot-tall Italian Cypress are displaying unsettling > symptoms. The once spire-like columns are now droopy and random areas midway > up the tree are losing needles and turning brown. I've inspected the tree > and don't see any tell-tale 'webs' from mites. I water thoroughly once a > week (deep soaks) and have given them MiracleGro feeds once every 3 months. > What's wrong with my trees...hate to lose them. > > Mark > mark@sumdesign.com > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From GrdnLsts@worldnet.att.net Thu Oct 9 00:53:12 2003 From: GrdnLsts@worldnet.att.net (olin) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page References: <200310081436.h98EaMQ4016497@Ag.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <002801c38dff$b96d22a0$1150530c@olin> I saw French marigold seeds at our local Home Depot today (NW Phoenix). Double blossoms - Ferry Morse. Our local Summer Winds nursery has 6 cell pony packs of French marigolds, many with 2 per cell. I always plant French among the vegetables, mainly for the color and aroma. I have never had a root knot nematode problem but have no hard evidence that marigolds had a role in that. As I understand the theory, the marigolds resist the root knot nematodes such that the population is reduced in the area where the marigolds are planted. Then a susceptible plant is grown in that area and the marigolds are planted somewhere else. This requires rigorous attention to crop rotation. You mentioned soil sterilization. Was that chemical or by solarization? Olin ----- Original Message ----- From: > Where in the valley can I buy French marigold seeds? > I have nematodes. Soil sterilization has helped but more need to be done. A local nursery recommended planting marigold seeds with my tomatoes etc. for nematode relief. Searching the web I found plenty of info regarding the use of marigolds for nematode control (ex. No. Carolina Dept of Agriculture at www.ncagr.com/agronomi/nnote1.htm). However, most of the articles point to the use of French or African marigolds. The African marigold is rather large and wouldn't fit the garden. I tried to find French marigold seeds however no luck at nurseries near me. The seed company catalogs don't seem to carry them. Can buy them on the web, however the outfits that seem to bee selling French marigold seeds are located in other countries. Therefore, my question about local seed sources. > > Thanks > > John Mollerus > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener From smhunter@cox.net Wed Oct 8 21:09:41 2003 From: smhunter@cox.net (Shirley) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:09:41 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] az trees Dalbergia Sissoo Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031008140925.00b1e008@ag.arizona.edu> I am trying to locate information on this particular species of tree. Cannot seem to locate it in your lists. Please advise if you have any info. Need to know if this tree is evergreen in the Phoenix area and how rapidly it grows? Is it recommended for yard planting in an irrigated situation and is it a 'messy' tree?. Thank You. Shirley From pleary6@cox.net Wed Oct 8 21:09:06 2003 From: pleary6@cox.net (Rick Leary) Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:09:06 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Ocotillo Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031008140847.01f086d8@ag.arizona.edu> --=====================_26852531==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi! We planted Ocotillo several weeks ago and it still hasn't turned green with leaves. ? Any suggestions? Initially, we watered and then stopped. Help please. Thanks - Linda "Rick Leary" --=====================_26852531==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi!

We planted Ocotillo several weeks ago and it still hasn't turned green with leaves. ?
Any suggestions?

Initially, we watered and then stopped.

Help please.

Thanks - Linda
"Rick Leary" <pleary6@cox.net>
--=====================_26852531==_.ALT-- From je1s@msn.com Wed Oct 8 23:50:47 2003 From: je1s@msn.com (Jane Schoder) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:50:47 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Pathology Lab Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0527_01C38DBC.52BB98E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mr. McKusick, Thank you for the prompt response to my request for information about a = desert spoon plant and acacia tree. I have taken root and soil samples as you described. I have the mailing = address of the lab. Is there a fee schedule for lab analysis? Also, if the plant or a tree were subjected to such acts as gasoline = being poured on the plant/ soil around the trunk, would a lab analysis = indicate this condition? Is there a certain length of time beyond which = analysis would not be feasible or would the roots retain the chemicals? Thank you for your attention to this concern. ------=_NextPart_000_0527_01C38DBC.52BB98E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello = Mr.=20 McKusick,

Thank = you for the=20 prompt response to my request for information about a desert spoon plant = and=20 acacia tree.

I have taken root and soil = samples as you=20 described. I have the mailing address of the lab.

Is there a fee schedule for = lab=20 analysis?

Also, if the plant or a tree = were=20 subjected to such acts as gasoline being poured on the plant/ soil = around the=20 trunk, would a lab analysis indicate this condition? Is there a certain = length=20 of time beyond which analysis would not be feasible or would the roots = retain=20 the chemicals?

Thank you for your attention = to this=20 concern.

------=_NextPart_000_0527_01C38DBC.52BB98E0-- From rodmcq6@highstream.net Wed Oct 8 23:54:22 2003 From: rodmcq6@highstream.net (Rod) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Killing bermuda grass References: <008b01c38ba4$fc8aad30$9008570c@tom> Message-ID: <009c01c38df7$80d09e20$d531db43@ibmbna6040> Tom, Killing bermuda grass in your Jasmine bed without killing the jasmine can be accomplished by using an herbicide that has the chemical Flazifop. Be sure to read the instructions. One such herbicide is called "Grass be Gone", There are others on the market. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener Blount" To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Killing bermuda grass > Can you help me . I have a bed of Asian Jasmine which Bermuda grass is > invading. Can I kill the Bermuda without killing the Jasmine? > > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From rodmcq6@highstream.net Thu Oct 9 00:20:22 2003 From: rodmcq6@highstream.net (Rod) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sick Brazillian Pepper Tree References: <20031005065926.40953.qmail@web40506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a701c38dfb$226a37c0$d531db43@ibmbna6040> Bert, The Brazilian Pepper tree is very susceptable to Texas Root Rot ( cotton rot) and particularly if over watered. TRR doesn't always affect all the roots of the tree so you may have sent in to the pathologist roots that were not infected. If the Texas Root Rot fungi are still in the soil they will also attack the tree that is starting to grow and the fungi is active during hot weather. Starting a tree from the growth on an existing stump is not a recommended way to start a tree although I have done it several times. If you want a multiple trunk tree prune off all but a few of the most vigorous shoots. It will be a continuous process of keeping the growth that you do not want removed. Sorry but I would have to guess how long it would take to grow to ten feet tall. Good luck. Rod McKusick Master Gardener ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bertrand Kovac" To: Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: [Arid_gardener] Sick Brazillian Pepper Tree > I had a mature pepper tree with multiple trunks of 6 > to 8 inch diameter. Every August it would lose one or > two branches but this year the whole tree turned > brown. > > The arborist I hired offered Cotton Rot as a possible > explanation and cut the tree back to one foot stumps. > > I sent root samples to the Tucson lab' but the plant > pathologist could not identify any pathogen. The tree > was growing in an area where it is very difficult to > control water; next to a golf course. It was not > receiving the same deep waterings that I apply to my > citrus. To water it properly in the future, I will > have to use ahose. Everything else on my property is > on a sprinkler timer. > > During the six weeks since the tree was drastically > cut back, the stumps have produced a luxurious growth > of leafy branches. The new growth is very vigorous. > > Two questions: > > How best to nurture the new growth? > > How long will it take to reach a ten foot height? > > Thanks in advance. > > Bert Keates > > > > ===== > Bertrand Kovac > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Arid_gardener mailing list > Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu > http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener > From cstephens@infinet-is.com Thu Oct 9 03:47:46 2003 From: cstephens@infinet-is.com (Charles Stephens) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:47:46 -0700 Subject: [Arid_gardener] Marigolds and Nematodes References: <9263789.1065653170228.JavaMail.root@wamui03.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004401c38e18$1bb1c3e0$23da13d8@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C38DDD.6E0C6220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too have done some online research on marigolds and nematodes and = have seen some claims, from apparently credible sources, similar to = those that John mentions, and they have all specified French marigolds. = I have also discussed this with Dr. Mary Olsen, the U. of A. Extension = Plant Pathologist. Mary says that while the nematodes won't bother = marigolds, the marigolds won't protect susceptible plants. I've also = heard pretty much the same thing from Terry Mikel, a U.of A. Cooperative = Extension Commercial Horticulture Agent. I can only conclude that the = "experts" disagree on this subject. I would certainly take claims made = by seed vendors with a grain of salt. =20 French marigolds, Tagetes patula, are fairly easy to find but, there are = many different cultivars around. I have seen even seeds at Wal-Mart. = Park Seed is one of several online companies that have them. Most of the = seed packets prominently display the cultivar (variety) name only, you = must read the fine print. There are also several other species of = Tagetes, one of which is the one that Tom mentioned. Tomato plant labels and seed packets may show any or all of the letters = VFTN. A variety with the N is nematode resistant, the V, F and T refer = to resistance to Verticillium wilt, Fusarium wilt and Tobacco mosaic = virus. I have had fairly good luck this year with Celebrity and Champion = tomatoes, both of which are nematode resistant and were suggested by Dr. = Mike McClure, U. of A Nematologist. It is also a good idea to get your = plants into the ground early in the season while the soil is still cool = and the nematodes aren't too active. You will may have to provide some = frost protection. Soil solarization, three year rotation with nonsusceptible crops and = resistant varieties is the most effective strategy that I've been able = to find. If you find some other practical solution, I would be very = interested to hear about it! Best of luck, Charlie, MG, Phx ----- Original Message -----=20 From: watsontl@mindspring.com=20 To: jjmollerus@juno.com ; arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Arid_gardener] Marigolds and Nematodes French marigolds are not a single type of marigold, but one of several horticultural catagories marigolds are broken down into. So you = won't find a packet of seeds simply labeled French marigold. You might, however, = find some that, in the fine print, describe the variety they contain to be "a = French type" or words to that effect. There are a lot of varieties of French = marigolds. Many of the marigolds sold in nurseries are of the French = type, so you might be able to get what you need by asking for such. There is a specific marigold sold by Seeds of Change (in New Mexico) = that is grown as a cover crop to kill nematodes. The link below will = lead you to it. I doubt you will find this one locally. These are = big plants (up to 7 feet tall) so I don't know how this would work for = your space situation. They are, however, and by all accounts, the most = effective marigold for the job. = http://www.seedsofchange.com/garden_center/product_details.asp?UID=3D2003= 100812281399&item_no=3DPS15493 Can you tell us what sort of plants were damaged by nematodes, and how = you determined that these worms were the cause? Tom -----Original Message----- From: jjmollerus@juno.com Sent: Oct 8, 2003 7:36 AM To: arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page Where in the valley can I buy French marigold seeds? I have nematodes. Soil sterilization has helped but more need to be = done. A local nursery recommended planting marigold seeds with my = tomatoes etc. for nematode relief. Searching the web I found plenty of = info regarding the use of marigolds for nematode control (ex. No. = Carolina Dept of Agriculture at www.ncagr.com/agronomi/nnote1.htm). = However, most of the articles point to the use of French or African = marigolds. The African marigold is rather large and wouldn't fit the = garden. I tried to find French marigold seeds however no luck at = nurseries near me. The seed company catalogs don't seem to carry them. = Can buy them on the web, however the outfits that seem to bee selling = French marigold seeds are located in other countries. Therefore, my = question about local seed sources. Thanks John Mollerus _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener _______________________________________________ Arid_gardener mailing list Arid_gardener@Ag.Arizona.Edu http://Ag.Arizona.Edu/mailman/listinfo/arid_gardener ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C38DDD.6E0C6220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I too have done some online research on marigolds and nematodes and = have=20 seen some claims, from apparently credible sources, similar to those = that John=20 mentions, and they have all specified French marigolds. I have = also=20 discussed this with Dr. Mary Olsen, the U. of A. Extension Plant = Pathologist.=20 Mary says that while the nematodes won't bother marigolds, the marigolds = won't=20 protect susceptible plants. I've also heard pretty much the same thing = from=20 Terry Mikel, a U.of A. Cooperative Extension Commercial Horticulture = Agent. I=20 can only conclude that the "experts" disagree on this subject. I would = certainly=20 take claims made by seed vendors with a grain of salt.

French marigolds, Tagetes patula, are fairly easy to find = but,=20 there are many different cultivars around. I have seen even seeds at=20 Wal-Mart. Park Seed is one of several online companies that have = them.=20 Most of the seed packets prominently display the cultivar (variety) name = only,=20 you must read the fine print. There are also several other species = of =20 Tagetes, one of which is the one that Tom mentioned.

Tomato plant labels and seed packets may show any or all of the = letters=20 VFTN. A variety with the N is nematode resistant, the V, F and T refer = to=20 resistance to Verticillium wilt, Fusarium wilt and Tobacco mosaic virus. = I have=20 had fairly good luck this year with Celebrity and Champion tomatoes, = both of=20 which are nematode resistant and were suggested by Dr. Mike McClure, U. = of A=20 Nematologist. It is also a good idea to get your plants into the ground = early in=20 the season while the soil is still cool and the nematodes aren't too = active. You=20 will may have to provide some frost protection.

Soil solarization, three year rotation with nonsusceptible crops = and=20 resistant varieties is the most effective strategy that I've been able = to find.=20 If you find some other practical solution, I would be very interested to = hear=20 about it!

Best of luck,

Charlie, MG, Phx

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 watsontl@mindspring.com