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<DIV><FONT size=2>And Thank You, Dick!!! Have been enjoying your posts
since arriving in the valley.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Lois</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mongotu@cox.net href="mailto:mongotu@cox.net">Lois Greer</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cnichols@austin.rr.com
href="mailto:cnichols@austin.rr.com">Chris</A> ; <A
title=arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu">arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 1:03 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [personal] Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort
WWW pa ge</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Hey! Talk about rude! Taking someone to task
on the OPEN list who is and has been giving freely of his/her own time and
expertise is the height of rudeness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I, for one, thank you, Chris - tongue in cheek whenever you
wish.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>And this is sent in the open forum, hoping to stem the brush
fire.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Lois</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cnichols@austin.rr.com href="mailto:cnichols@austin.rr.com">Chris</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Alan.Zelhart@freescale.com
href="mailto:Alan.Zelhart@freescale.com">Zelhart Alan-rpcs30</A> ; <A
title=rkgross3@cox.net href="mailto:rkgross3@cox.net">Dick Gross</A> ; <A
title=arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu">arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 12:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [personal] Re:
[Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW pa ge</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Point taken. I will bow out and let the "experts"
do as you wish.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry I tried to help,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Chris</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Alan.Zelhart@freescale.com
href="mailto:Alan.Zelhart@freescale.com">Zelhart Alan-rpcs30</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cnichols@austin.rr.com
href="mailto:cnichols@austin.rr.com">Chris</A> ; <A title=rkgross3@cox.net
href="mailto:rkgross3@cox.net">Dick Gross</A> ; <A
title=arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu">arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 2:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [personal] Re:
[Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW pa ge</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=602010019-25042005><FONT color=#008080>Chris I think it is
important that you give your credentials, especially if your going to
belittle someone else in the process of stating your point. I thought
it was very rude and unprofessional of you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=602010019-25042005><FONT color=#008080>--<BR>Chat with you
later,<BR>Alan<BR>-- <BR>Chandler,
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
arid_gardener-bounces@CALS.arizona.edu
[mailto:arid_gardener-bounces@CALS.arizona.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Chris<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 11:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Dick Gross; arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [personal]
Re: [Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I thought your responce was glib rather than
helpful. I appoligised for that and gave her the information she
needed. As for credentials I have them, but I don't think that's as
important as giving <STRONG>friendly
</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>useful information to people who come here.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your answer. I still think you
could</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>have done a bit more research before answering.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris in semi-Arid Austin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rkgross3@cox.net href="mailto:rkgross3@cox.net">Dick Gross</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=cnichols@austin.rr.com
href="mailto:cnichols@austin.rr.com">Chris</A> ; ; <A
title=jvcaquias@comcast.net
href="mailto:jvcaquias@comcast.net">jvcaquias@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 1:23
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [personal] Re:
[Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Live and learn, Chris, if I may invoke an
old cliché. Thanks for the response.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2><STRONG>My reply was
tongue-in-cheek</STRONG> but if it dragged a real expert out of the
woodwork in Texas where these critters range, it served a
purpose. We are all, I'm sure, grateful for the edification. A home
citrus grower for 50 years, a Master Gardener for
ten, Editor for the Arizona cultivar of the California Rare Fruit
Growers for nine--while I might have overlooked it, I have never seen
nor had described to me, the kind of damage in the paper you cite
though I have sometime in the past heard of the twig girdler. I am
truly grateful, therefore, for your
sight-unseen analysis. </FONT><FONT face=Courier size=2>We
Master Gardener volunteers freely exchange personal experience and
knowledge that we openly admit could be flawed or
misinterpreted but we learn from and instruct one another in a
<STRONG>friendly</STRONG> fashion solely in the interest of
discovery and the truth tends to rise to
the surface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>I also have some advice for you, Chris..
Next time you insert your intelligence into Arizona
horticulture</FONT> <FONT face=Courier size=2>, a kindness I
earnestly invite, could you please show us the courtesy
of giving your full name and credentials.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Dick Gross, Master Gardener
Volunteer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>University of Arizona Maricopa
County</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Cooperative Extension</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cnichols@austin.rr.com
href="mailto:cnichols@austin.rr.com">Chris</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rkgross3@cox.net
href="mailto:rkgross3@cox.net">Dick Gross</A> ; <A
title=arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu">arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</A>
; <A title=jvcaquias@comcast.net
href="mailto:jvcaquias@comcast.net">jvcaquias@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 25, 2005 9:43
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [personal] Re:
[Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dick </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>You need to do your homework.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Twig girdlers are the problem.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/uc/uc-018.html">http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/uc/uc-018.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The preferred hosts include pecan,
persimmon, hickory, walnut, red oak, hackberry, elm, mesquite,
huisache, tepehuaje, mimosa, retama, Texas ebony, citrus and various
fruit trees. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris in semi-arid Austin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rkgross3@cox.net href="mailto:rkgross3@cox.net">Dick
Gross</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu">arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</A>
; <A title=jvcaquias@comcast.net
href="mailto:jvcaquias@comcast.net">jvcaquias@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 21, 2005
10:54 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [personal] Re:
[Arid_gardener] Question from Home-Hort WWW page</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Are these smooth cuts, by any
chance, on a side of the orange tree that intrudes
into a neighbor's yard? The only critters I know,
Valerie, that can make such cuts are the
Bypass lopper species. I have a couple in my yard that feed
regularly on a pestilent neighbor's
impinging overgrowth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Dick Gross</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Master Gardener
Volunteer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>University of Arizona</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Maricopa County Cooperative
Extension</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>From: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jvcaquias@comcast.net"><FONT face=Courier
size=2>jvcaquias@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Courier
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu"><FONT face=Courier
size=2>arid_gardener@Ag.arizona.edu</FONT></A><FONT face=Courier
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:07
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier size=2>Subject: [Arid_gardener] Question
from Home-Hort WWW page</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Courier><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Courier size=2>> Valerie<BR>> 85741<BR>> </FONT><A
href="mailto:jvcaquias@comcast.net"><FONT face=Courier
size=2>jvcaquias@comcast.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Courier
size=2>> <BR>> I live in Tucson, Arizona. Every spring, some
pest cuts off new growth in my orange tree. Some of the branches are
as big as a third of an inch. The cuts are very clean. My grapefruit
and lemon trees are unaffected. Any ideas about what it could be and
how to avoid it?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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